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Syria has left Lebanon. - Tom Brosz - 4/26/2005 7:00:35 AM
- Good news. - Tony - 4/26/2005 8:45:26 PM

Zarqawi escapes by skin of teeth - Tom Brosz - 4/25/2005 10:56:59 PM
- BTW..."80,000 euros?" Why euros? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 4/26/2005 4:29:52 PM
- Damn! Better luck next time. - David F Mayer - 4/26/2005 2:53:04 PM

Ouch... - Tom Brosz - 4/26/2005 4:27:36 PM

U.S. weapons inspector finishes Iraq work - Donald - 4/26/2005 1:00:03 AM
- Links to report - Tom Brosz - 4/26/2005 2:16:57 AM
  - Its really quite simple - Donald - 4/26/2005 4:19:02 AM
    - Meanwhile: 1,573 - Donald - 4/26/2005 4:27:20 AM

Absurd. With the Bushies protecting Novak, two others not complicit are headed to jail. - Bowser - 4/24/2005 9:54:33 AM
- thanks for seting yourself up (again) - p - 4/24/2005 2:58:54 PM
  - A great misleading subject line. - Bowser - 4/25/2005 6:52:36 AM
  - wrong (again) - tony - 4/25/2005 1:07:10 AM
    - AP News - p - 4/25/2005 9:08:07 PM

Good News From Iraq, Part 26 - Tom Brosz - 4/25/2005 5:32:03 AM
- Y'know those big, lavish Hollywood weddings? - Bowser - 4/25/2005 6:47:37 AM
  - "Good News From Iraq" - Tom Brosz - 4/25/2005 3:27:56 PM
    - re: "Good News From Iraq" - Doug Ellison - 4/25/2005 7:30:01 PM
      - re: "Good News From Iraq" - Tom Brosz - 4/25/2005 7:57:42 PM

Israelis shoot Palestinians, ignoring ceasefire. - Bowser - 4/9/2005 3:16:47 PM
- re: Israelis shoot Palestinians, ignoring ceasefire. - Tom Brosz - 4/9/2005 9:32:07 PM
  - Sorry, forgot link - Tom Brosz - 4/9/2005 9:32:58 PM
    - It is OK when Arab terrorists hit Israel. - David F Mayer - 4/13/2005 5:46:08 AM
      - re: It is OK when Arab terrorists hit Israel. - m - 4/25/2005 3:52:17 AM

Happy Earth Day Today, and Whoa! It's Also Lenin's Birthday - phil - 4/22/2005 7:03:33 PM
- It is also Oppenheimer's birthday... - R.L. - 4/24/2005 7:17:40 PM
- missing link - p - 4/22/2005 7:08:08 PM

Insurgent Violence Escalates In Iraq - Donald - 4/24/2005 3:08:51 PM
- Meanwhile: 1,568 - Donald - 4/24/2005 3:09:38 PM

Rice changed terrorism report - Eric - 4/24/2005 4:47:36 AM
- That's easy to figure out........... - Lindy - 4/24/2005 5:59:02 AM

Asking few questions makes a difference - gbaikie - 4/23/2005 4:20:12 PM

Flap over Democratic 2008 Candidate - phil - 4/23/2005 2:09:09 PM

NYC folks: Your education tax money at work - p - 4/21/2005 3:19:50 PM
- What does this have to do with the ACLU, OR the teachers association? (n/t) - R.L. - 4/21/2005 4:23:38 PM
  - re: What does this have to do with the ACLU, OR the teachers association? - p - 4/21/2005 5:27:54 PM
    - AGAIN: What does this have to do with the ACLU, OR the teachers association? - R.L. - 4/21/2005 6:32:35 PM
      - re: AGAIN: What does this have to do with the ACLU, OR the teachers association? - p - 4/21/2005 7:23:54 PM
        
        Then why slander those groups by associating them with actions they had nothing to do with? - R.L. - 4/21/2005 7:52:29 PM
        
        re: Then why slander those groups by associating them with actions they had nothing to do with? - p - 4/21/2005 9:31:24 PM
        
        We confront things where we find them. Even in obscure places. - Mary Anne - 4/22/2005 7:20:36 PM
        
        re: We confront things where we find them. Even in obscure places. - gbaikie - 4/22/2005 8:52:33 PM
        
        The slander is that the ACLU and teachers' unions have been connected with this incident by a poster here ... - Mary Anne - 4/23/2005 12:21:58 AM
        
        utter bilge - p - 4/23/2005 12:49:48 AM
        
        The fact is, a teacher can be dismissed with adequate documentation. - Mary Anne - 4/23/2005 1:40:54 AM
        
        typo (n/t) - p - 4/23/2005 12:50:39 AM
        
        Lame attempt, phil, but sadly typical... - R.L. - 4/22/2005 2:25:37 AM
        
        one last time - p - 4/22/2005 3:13:17 AM
        
        Oh come on phil - Tony - 4/22/2005 3:34:36 PM
        
        Enter pharisees, stage right. (n/t) - alcaray - 4/22/2005 3:51:28 PM
        
        AGAIN: - R.L. - 4/22/2005 7:16:26 AM

1,565 - Donald - 4/22/2005 2:09:05 AM
- Civilian Victims - Jack Herer - 4/22/2005 4:53:19 PM
  - And I guess we can all see where this one's going... (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 4/23/2005 12:53:42 AM

Another government Whoops! we were wrong - phil - 4/22/2005 9:53:41 PM

Castro doubles Cuban minimum wage to ten bucks a month. - Tom Brosz - 4/22/2005 6:36:14 AM
- "Castro has something to teach America about how to run a nation." - David F Mayer - 4/22/2005 7:33:25 PM
- Chocolate and coffee rationed? Sounds like hell on Earth..... - Sam F. - 4/22/2005 11:06:52 AM
  - Communism in this case may be better than our Capitalism - Lindy - 4/22/2005 4:00:25 PM
    - "lower birth mortality rate than we do." - David F Mayer - 4/22/2005 7:36:36 PM
    - Nonsense. - David F Mayer - 4/22/2005 7:35:10 PM
    - An apology - p - 4/22/2005 5:53:11 PM
    - Satire right? (n/t) - Tony - 4/22/2005 4:18:29 PM
      - re: Satire right? - Lindy - 4/22/2005 7:01:36 PM
  - I'll wager that cigars are still cheap. (n/t) - Gary - 4/22/2005 3:57:07 PM

GM posts worst loss since the last year of Bush 1s administration. - Bowser - 4/20/2005 3:37:36 AM
- If GM would make decent cars, it would certainly help. - David F Mayer - 4/20/2005 6:51:24 PM
- What's good for GM is good for the country? - p - 4/20/2005 2:24:57 PM
  - "It's the economy, stupid." (n/t) - alcaray - 4/20/2005 5:48:14 PM
    - re: "It's the economy, stupid." Uh, no... try some facts - p - 4/21/2005 5:32:36 PM
      - This shouldn't be so difficult - alcaray - 4/21/2005 9:53:51 PM
        
        re: This shouldn't be so difficult - p - 4/21/2005 10:11:48 PM
        
        Conservatives are facetious, liberals are obtuse. I get it now. - alcaray - 4/21/2005 11:05:58 PM
        
        re: Conservatives are facetious, liberals are obtuse. I get it now. - p - 4/22/2005 12:57:34 AM
        
        Seriously, no. (n/t) - alcaray - 4/22/2005 3:08:31 PM
    - You know they suck (n/t) - FrankC - 4/21/2005 4:36:29 AM
      - Just clarified Bowser's post for Phil (n/t) - alcaray - 4/21/2005 4:14:33 PM

Arnold's solution to uncontrolled illegal immigration - phil - 4/20/2005 2:23:37 PM
- Arnold apologizing profusely... - Tom Brosz - 4/21/2005 6:01:17 AM
  - Except that's not what he said... - Tony - 4/21/2005 1:52:44 PM
    - Okay, I can see your point. - Tom Brosz - 4/22/2005 12:32:16 AM
      - Have to admit, "leftie" CA reaction was OTT..... (n/t) - Tony - 4/22/2005 2:00:09 PM

What liberals really want - phil - 4/19/2005 7:03:06 PM
- The attack on the judiciary goes on. - Mary Anne - 4/20/2005 10:49:52 AM
  - re: The attack on the judiciary goes on. - phil - 4/20/2005 2:33:38 PM
    - So you're a *senior* member of the Republican noise machine? Sorry, Mr. O'Reilly, I didn't know! - Mary Anne - 4/20/2005 10:28:54 PM
      - Ideology - Tom Brosz - 4/21/2005 6:11:31 AM
        
        re: Ideology explained - Mary Anne - 4/22/2005 1:51:07 PM
      - re: So you're a *senior* member of the Republican noise machine? Sorry, Mr. O'Reilly, I didn't know! - phil - 4/21/2005 1:45:27 AM
        
        It *is* a noise machine. It's a form of news reporting predicated on yelling. - Mary Anne - 4/22/2005 1:31:01 PM
        
        So, why didn't you care about this until the last few weeks? - DL - 4/21/2005 9:36:11 PM
        
        re: So, why didn't you care about this until the last few weeks? - p - 4/22/2005 1:00:10 AM
        
        No defensivenes there... Yup... The P doeth obviously not protest too much - DL - 4/22/2005 4:43:27 AM
  - Checks and balances applies to judges, too - Larry J - 4/20/2005 1:02:04 PM
    - Here's the problem: "done other things that large segments of the public disagree with" - alcaray - 4/20/2005 6:03:49 PM
      - "Conservatives have the ability to whip up an angry mob every time they disagree with a court case." - Larry J - 4/20/2005 7:25:49 PM
        
        If you think you are being treated unfairly then - alcaray - 4/20/2005 8:25:20 PM
        
        And what do we do when the courts are the problem? - Larry J - 4/21/2005 3:09:05 AM
        
        When it happens, I'll let you know. (n/t) - alcaray - 4/21/2005 4:17:04 PM
        
        Criticism of one branch of government aint the problem. - Tony - 4/20/2005 7:56:48 PM
        
        Check Article 1, Section 8 - Larry J - 4/21/2005 3:06:23 AM
        
        re: Check Article 1, Section 8 - Tony - 4/21/2005 2:15:26 PM
        
        And the Congress provides checks for the judges - Larry J - 4/21/2005 5:52:24 PM
        
        You can keep writing the same post for as long as you like. - Tony - 4/21/2005 6:12:47 PM
    - Alternative : pass better laws (n/t) - Tony - 4/20/2005 4:36:00 PM
- re: What liberals really want - LJ - 4/19/2005 8:42:28 PM
  - re: What liberals really want - p - 4/19/2005 11:25:30 PM
    - Can you cite some "constitution flouting" examples? (n/t) - alcaray - 4/20/2005 5:50:02 PM
    - Visit Guantanamo. See the world. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 4/20/2005 10:40:57 AM
    - "Cite specific examples " - which is easy. Would you admit you are a True Believer? - Bowser - 4/20/2005 3:29:49 AM
      - re: "Cite specific examples " - which is easy. Would you admit you are a True Believer? - p - 4/20/2005 1:48:11 PM
        
        Cite specific examples - Yasser Hamdi super-secret indefinite detention. Next? (n/t) - Tony - 4/20/2005 4:42:02 PM
        
        Yeah, yeah. Want to try for two? - Tom Brosz - 4/21/2005 6:16:41 AM
        
        Sure.... here ya go! Violations of justice and human rights - R.L. - 4/22/2005 6:32:53 AM
        
        Oh I'm sorry - Tony - 4/21/2005 2:11:52 PM
        
        Big deal. - Tom Brosz - 4/22/2005 12:41:54 AM
        
        Dodged? - tony - 4/22/2005 1:21:27 AM
        
        Oh yeah, name three then. - SDG - 4/21/2005 2:45:00 PM

Dean says Dems to wield Schiavo case against Republicans in 2008 - RobVG - 4/16/2005 5:44:21 PM
- "Powerline" notices the same thing. - Tom Brosz - 4/16/2005 10:21:21 PM
- Terri who??? - Lee - 4/16/2005 7:02:23 PM
  - Only one side feels the issue has been resolved. - RobVG - 4/16/2005 7:29:24 PM
    - Which side was pleased, exactly? - alcaray - 4/18/2005 5:59:16 PM
    - you mean the 10-20% fringe folk who thought there was a 'there' there (n/t) - Davin L. - 4/16/2005 8:21:23 PM
      - No, I mean the folks who thought the parents should be the authority. - RobVG - 4/16/2005 8:51:12 PM
        
        Oh, you mean the people who crow piously about defending marriage from gays, but want to remove the rights of spouses to make caregiver decisions when they conflict with their radical take on 'values… (n/t) - Davin L. - 4/17/2005 6:27:28 PM
        
        re: people who crow piously - Tom Brosz - 4/17/2005 8:03:02 PM
        
        I see - DL - 4/18/2005 4:42:20 AM
        
        There probably are many people that fit the box you constructed but again, no. - RobVG - 4/17/2005 7:52:52 PM
        
        Terri's husband was her "family", too. (n/t) - alcaray - 4/18/2005 6:02:10 PM
        
        "Family" - RobVg - 4/21/2005 3:55:39 AM
        
        re: "Family" - Davin L. - 4/21/2005 1:55:23 PM
        
        Ohhh, I see... Your position is about 'valuing life'.... which of course means that.... - Davin L. - 4/18/2005 5:03:40 AM
        
        Your position - RobVG - 4/21/2005 3:50:33 AM
        
        Smake and mirrors and glass houses and snake oil - Davin L. - 4/21/2005 2:47:53 PM
        
        Thank you for your reply. (n/t) - RobVG - 4/22/2005 5:22:30 AM
        
        Anytime, Rob. Let me know what else I can do ;-) - Davin L. - 4/22/2005 1:28:28 PM
        
        er, Smoke. (n/t) - DL - 4/21/2005 7:36:17 PM

blogosphere - gbaikie - 4/21/2005 8:26:11 PM
- so where will the blogs get their news from? - Tony - 4/21/2005 8:55:36 PM
  - Where they get it from already: other blogs - Davin L. - 4/21/2005 9:33:43 PM
    - "It must be true, 'cause it makes me feel so good!" (n/t) - alcaray - 4/21/2005 10:35:47 PM
  - re: so where will the blogs get their news from? - phil - 4/21/2005 9:27:24 PM
    - re: so where will the blogs get their news from? - Tom Brosz - 4/22/2005 12:26:47 AM
      - Something more exciting than the MSM reforming itself... - Gary - 4/22/2005 2:18:51 AM
        
        re: Something more exciting than the MSM reforming itself... - p - 4/22/2005 3:24:53 AM

Spectacular Specimen: 8 Foot Long Millipede Fossil Unearthed - Eric - 4/18/2005 4:38:18 PM
- That millipede appears to be only about 5 ft, maybe it's a baby. (n/t) - Barb - 4/21/2005 6:28:47 PM
- re: Spectacular Specimen: 8 Foot Long Millipede Fossil Unearthed - Barb - 4/21/2005 6:27:09 PM
- If that thing is 8' long, how tall is the guy holding it up? (n/t) - SDG - 4/19/2005 2:35:12 PM
- I'm so glad that thing is extinct (n/t) - Gary - 4/18/2005 4:42:11 PM
  - re: I'm so glad that thing is extinct - gbaikie - 4/18/2005 8:20:56 PM
    - Wonder what they taste like? (n/t) - alcaray - 4/18/2005 10:00:40 PM
      - A little stronger than a centipede. A bit like pterodactyl. (n/t) - Bowser - 4/19/2005 1:02:41 AM
        
        The chiten gets stuck in my teeth... (n/t) - R.L. - 4/19/2005 1:06:23 AM
        
        Special fork you're supposed to use. (n/t) - alcaray - 4/19/2005 10:27:03 PM
        
        Eat JUST the legs, and shell 'em - like a lobster. (n/t) - Bowser - 4/19/2005 5:23:39 AM

"New Europe" and Flat Taxes - phil - 4/21/2005 5:53:52 PM

Massive Turnabout: France supports premptive war! - phil - 4/21/2005 2:30:52 PM
- re: Massive Turnabout: What Turnabout? - David F Mayer - 4/21/2005 3:23:26 PM

Hillary folk in legal trouble over fund raising (again) - p - 4/21/2005 2:40:38 PM

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