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The UN won't, NATO won't, maybe the Baa'thists will. Bail out Cheney/bush, that is. - Bowser - 4/29/2004 10:06:24 PM
- re: The UN 'is' corrupt, B . . . - D. Spires - 4/29/2004 10:14:41 PM
  - Good to see you, D. S. You stay away too long. (n/t) - Bowser - 4/29/2004 10:30:28 PM

Man Acquitted of Murdering Girlfriend, 14 . . . - D. Spires - 4/29/2004 10:05:55 PM

Belmont Club Fallujah update - Tom Brosz - 4/29/2004 6:26:55 PM

Polls in Iraq - Raoul - 4/29/2004 5:50:24 AM
- re: Polls in Iraq - Buck Galaxy - 4/29/2004 6:01:16 AM
  - re: Polls in Iraq - Tom Brosz - 4/29/2004 4:19:03 PM
  - Those not asked.... - Donald - 4/29/2004 12:44:54 PM
    - I hate to point out the obvious... - Tom Brosz - 4/29/2004 4:27:49 PM

If the Marines have to take Fallujah. - Jacob Samorodin - 4/28/2004 5:24:48 PM
- Read Belmont Club's analysis - Gary - 4/29/2004 3:51:43 PM
- No "if" about it - Buck Galaxy - 4/29/2004 7:18:46 AM
- I foresee very heavy aerial bombardment as part of this. - David F Mayer - 4/28/2004 10:22:31 PM
- Or they could starve 'em out. - Bowser - 4/28/2004 7:28:42 PM
- What happened last night might be a preview of things to come - Larry J - 4/28/2004 6:51:19 PM
- Use a couple spare MOABs & level the city (n/t) - p - 4/28/2004 6:07:45 PM

On wartime deaths - Larry J - 4/29/2004 3:05:11 PM

Wow. - Tom Brosz - 4/27/2004 3:27:56 AM
- How about a firing rate of 1,000,000 rounds per minute - JReid - 4/27/2004 5:03:34 PM
  - Little more than an electric shotgun. This is another solution for which there is no problem. - David F Mayer - 4/28/2004 12:23:20 PM
    - "One shot. One kill." - Larry J - 4/28/2004 7:04:33 PM
      - re: "One shot. One kill." Smart bullets that chase you. - JReid - 4/28/2004 7:35:39 PM
        
        Much better than firing a vast number of rounds and hitting nothing. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 4/28/2004 10:30:32 PM
        
        re: "One shot. One kill." Smart bullets that chase you. - Larry J - 4/28/2004 8:26:41 PM
        
        Thanks, I tried finding an article, but couldn't. (n/t) - JReid - 4/29/2004 2:59:43 PM
        
        m16 jamming problems - SDG - 4/28/2004 11:45:32 PM
        
        re: m16 jamming problems - Larry J - 4/29/2004 12:41:51 AM
        
        AK vs M16 - JReid - 4/29/2004 2:55:47 PM
        
        The original M-16 was not as much a problem as the crappy ammunition that was used. - David F Mayer - 4/28/2004 10:44:46 PM
        
        re: The original M-16 was not as much a problem as the crappy ammunition that was used. - Larry J - 4/29/2004 12:45:07 AM
- Military technology is evolving rapidly - Larry J - 4/27/2004 3:32:48 PM
- More along these lines from Belmont Club - Tom Brosz - 4/27/2004 4:48:19 AM
- yikes! (n/t) - jms - 4/27/2004 4:43:12 AM

John Kerry Must Go - gbaikie - 4/28/2004 8:58:35 AM
- re: John Kerry Must Go - REB - 4/28/2004 8:54:43 PM
- re: If Bush wins - Raoul - 4/28/2004 7:56:16 PM
- No you fools! PLEASE elect him Pres & get him out of MASS! (n/t) - p - 4/28/2004 4:32:11 PM
  - He's not coming out of MASS untill some priest finally gives in to communion. - tony - 4/29/2004 3:22:15 AM
  - Why should our loss be your gain? - Larry J - 4/28/2004 8:47:34 PM
    - Senator Janus - phil - 4/28/2004 11:49:13 PM
      - Now you did it! - Larry J - 4/29/2004 12:32:20 AM

FBI agent has proof of treason for top administration officials for 9/11 - Lindy - 4/28/2004 3:30:15 PM
- Check out the definition of "Treason" and you will see that it does not apply to error or non-feasance. - David F Mayer - 4/28/2004 10:26:40 PM
- Wow. Thanks for the link, Lindy! - Pete Stanley - 4/28/2004 7:31:00 PM

Another view on Fallujah - Tom Brosz - 4/27/2004 4:52:13 PM
- I said before, the first thing we had to do was to arrest the entire corps, civilian and military, that supported - David F Mayer - 4/27/2004 9:13:01 PM
  - Errr, those would be the guys with "I heart SH" badges? - tony - 4/27/2004 9:51:34 PM
    - Officers in the Republican Guard, Secret Police, etc. Political Officeholders, Baathist Functionaries..... (n/t) - DFM - 4/28/2004 3:01:54 AM
      - Numbers vary but you could be looking at up to 2 million Iraqis there. - Tony - 4/28/2004 4:43:14 PM
        
        Chalabi detests the idea - alcaray - 4/28/2004 5:33:41 PM
        
        Everyone detests Chalabi - Tony - 4/28/2004 5:51:13 PM
    - You pretty much nailed the main problem right on the head... - Tom Brosz - 4/28/2004 2:38:52 AM
- re: Another view on Fallujah - McFly - 4/27/2004 6:24:58 PM
  - You're right. A Fallujah means the US has lost. - Bowser - 4/28/2004 4:24:50 AM
  - If you kill enough of them, they get the idea. - David F Mayer - 4/27/2004 9:16:48 PM
  - re: Another view on Fallujah - Tom Brosz - 4/27/2004 6:54:53 PM

Insurgency offers reward for American officials - Tom Brosz - 4/28/2004 5:48:03 PM

Belmont Club on Fallujah - Tom Brosz - 4/28/2004 3:04:33 AM
- Of course Al Jazeera has its "Fallujah Fannie" and "Baghdad Betty" to say different. - Jacob Samorodin - 4/28/2004 3:42:45 PM
  - Sounds like Fox news. JK (n/t) - alcaray - 4/28/2004 5:01:36 PM
  - Believe me, I know all about Al Jazeera. - Tom Brosz - 4/28/2004 4:05:03 PM
- Another very interesting site - McFly - 4/28/2004 3:21:18 PM
  - "None of the names in this article are real." - Tom Brosz - 4/28/2004 4:26:41 PM

The unsanitized view of Iraq. - TiM - 4/27/2004 4:02:16 PM
- re: The unsanitized view of Iraq. - ebnelson - 4/28/2004 4:20:15 AM

Attack averted - Raoul - 4/27/2004 5:49:00 AM
- Does anyone know what house resolution this was? - alcaray - 4/27/2004 3:58:46 PM
  - re: Does anyone know what house resolution this was? - Tom Brosz - 4/27/2004 4:31:51 PM
    - can't get your link to work. - alcaray - 4/27/2004 5:34:05 PM
      - Try this Acrobat file - Tom Brosz - 4/27/2004 6:58:32 PM
        
        Thank you! You are a goooglin' genius! - alcaray - 4/27/2004 10:00:39 PM
        
        No problem. A few comments-- - Tom Brosz - 4/28/2004 2:57:15 AM
  - re: second link? - Raoul - 4/27/2004 4:23:16 PM
- re: Attack NOT averted - Buck Galaxy - 4/27/2004 6:16:20 AM
  - Buck, please post WARNINGS for those kinds of posts. - Justin Kelly - 4/27/2004 6:33:33 AM
    - Certainly - Buck Galaxy - 4/27/2004 6:40:54 AM
      - If you include an explanation of what the pix show, - alcaray - 4/27/2004 3:50:36 PM
        
        Good point. The title should have read: Chemical Attack NOT Averted (WARNING PICS) (n/t) - Buck Galaxy - 4/27/2004 4:48:13 PM
        
        You really don't recognize those shots, do you? - Tom Brosz - 4/27/2004 4:22:33 PM
        
        Sorry, I did not. Thanks for the info. (n/t) - alcaray - 4/27/2004 5:36:11 PM
  - Before anyone starts getting huffy about the pictures... - Tom Brosz - 4/27/2004 6:22:29 AM
- re: Attack averted - Tom Brosz - 4/27/2004 6:14:53 AM
  - re: Attack averted - Raoul - 4/27/2004 4:11:29 PM

Syria - Raoul - 4/27/2004 9:31:56 PM

Would you work for Haliburton in Iraq for only $80,000 per year? - Jacob Samorodin - 4/19/2004 3:37:30 PM
- re: Would you work for Haliburton in Iraq for only $80,000 per year? - R.E. DeLong - 4/27/2004 7:13:02 PM
- The US is paying mercenaries $4.5 billion for Halliburton, et al. security. - Bowser - 4/20/2004 12:17:02 AM
- Not me, but... - FrankC - 4/19/2004 4:29:11 PM
  - re: Not me, but... - McFly - 4/19/2004 5:44:45 PM
    - Perhaps you are like Nelson Rockefeller :) - FrankC - 4/19/2004 6:52:41 PM
      - Agreed! But given a choice of being a well-armed, low-paid soldier in a Bradley armored fighting-vehicle, or an unarmed, well-paid civilian hauling 10,000 gallons of fuel in a thin-skinned tanker-tru… (n/t) - Jacob Samorodin - 4/19/2004 9:11:29 PM

"Hey, Karen, what did Bush do with his medals?" - Bowser - 4/27/2004 6:14:48 PM

60th anniversary of the Battle of Exercise Tiger - Tom Brosz - 4/26/2004 5:02:30 PM
- re: 60th anniversary of the Battle of Exercise Tiger - Larry J - 4/26/2004 5:41:45 PM
  - Guess I'm a crybaby - alcaray - 4/26/2004 6:26:26 PM
    - re: Guess I'm a crybaby - Larry J - 4/26/2004 6:55:56 PM
      - Cute, Larry, but that crap ewon't fly much longer in this country. - Davin L. - 4/27/2004 2:58:49 PM
        
        You project too much - Larry J - 4/27/2004 4:14:20 PM
        
        You were doing okay there for a while... - Tom Brosz - 4/27/2004 3:58:42 PM
      - Everyone not a warmonger is a coward. - Bowser - 4/27/2004 12:39:34 AM
        
        Not everyone who supports the actions in Iraq is a warmonger... - Larry J - 4/27/2004 2:34:35 PM
        
        Neither of those statements is true. - Bowser - 4/27/2004 4:57:06 PM
        
        Okay: so you are a coward - Davin L. - 4/27/2004 3:00:23 PM
        
        I've been gone for about 2 weeks - Larry J - 4/27/2004 3:35:44 PM
        
        re: I've been gone for about 2 weeks - Davin L. - 4/27/2004 4:22:22 PM
        
        So now you're calling me a liar - Larry J - 4/27/2004 5:08:12 PM
        
        In the interests of accuracy, you are. - Bowser - 4/27/2004 5:18:35 PM
        
        (BTW, as per obvious, I decided not to take it to flame) (n/t) - Davin L. - 4/27/2004 4:37:02 PM
      - Americans did not become gutless, the wars did - alcaray - 4/26/2004 8:58:37 PM
        
        In 1940, most Americans opposed going to war against Germany, Japan, and Italy - Larry J - 4/26/2004 9:44:46 PM
      - I don't think "gutless" is the word you're looking for. - Tom Brosz - 4/26/2004 8:08:25 PM
        
        I think it is - Larry J - 4/26/2004 8:42:26 PM
        
        Was Somalia pull-out more or less emboldening then Beirut? (n/t) - Tony - 4/26/2004 8:45:07 PM
        
        Pulling out of Beruit was also wrong, IMO - Larry J - 4/26/2004 9:08:25 PM
        
        Just checking - Tony - 4/27/2004 3:59:48 PM
        
        About the same. I would put them both on the list of policy errors, myself. - Tom Brosz - 4/26/2004 8:58:52 PM
    - re: Guess I'm a crybaby - Tom Brosz - 4/26/2004 6:37:39 PM
      - It is a tough call, Tom - alcaray - 4/26/2004 7:00:29 PM

Anyone remember good 'ol Charlie Duelfer? - Tom Brosz - 4/27/2004 5:11:50 PM

Kerry speculation... - Tom Brosz - 4/26/2004 4:26:49 PM
- re: Paradoxes of war - Raoul - 4/26/2004 7:25:23 PM
- Being fair to the majority - FrankC - 4/26/2004 4:43:29 PM
  - Clarification: - Tom Brosz - 4/26/2004 4:52:41 PM
    - "CE board is becoming an anti-Bush festival" - Tony - 4/27/2004 3:58:01 PM
    - re: Clarification: - Buck Galaxy - 4/26/2004 9:37:04 PM
    - re: Clarification: - Davin L. - 4/26/2004 5:41:45 PM
      - re: Clarification: - gbaikie - 4/26/2004 8:50:02 PM
      - re: Clarification - Tom Brosz - 4/26/2004 7:15:06 PM
        
        Calcification - Davin L. - 4/27/2004 2:40:54 PM
        
        re: Clarification - McFly - 4/26/2004 8:31:13 PM
        
        I agree - SDG - 4/27/2004 12:00:47 AM
        
        There's a fundamental problem with sending more troops... - Larry J - 4/27/2004 12:50:28 AM
        
        Why not pull troops out of Europe? - FrankC - 4/27/2004 2:48:36 AM
        
        From what I've read, a lot of troops have been sent from Germany - Larry J - 4/27/2004 2:06:41 PM
        
        re: From what I've read, a lot of troops have been sent from Germany - SDG - 4/27/2004 2:33:36 PM
        
        More troops - FrankC - 4/26/2004 7:55:36 PM
        
        Good point - Tom Brosz - 4/26/2004 8:11:04 PM

Oklahoma City Bombing Trial Update - Pete Stanley - 4/20/2004 6:01:11 AM
- I would need to SEE the video to form a conclusion. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 4/26/2004 10:02:33 PM
- Its a nothingburger - Donald - 4/20/2004 1:01:40 PM
  - Maybe so, but the most interesting thing - Pete Stanley - 4/20/2004 8:23:32 PM
    - Pete.... - Davin L. - 4/21/2004 5:20:35 AM
      - Davin - RNE - 4/21/2004 12:23:08 PM
      - I won't mention it here again. - Pete Stanley - 4/21/2004 8:28:08 AM
        
        re: I won't mention it here again. - Davin L. - 4/21/2004 5:21:01 PM
        
        Clarke - Pete Stanley - 4/21/2004 8:20:15 PM
        
        Yeti mind tricks - Davin L. - 4/21/2004 8:49:13 PM
        
        SIMPLE REFUTATION OF THE "ANFO CANT BLOW UP A BUILDING" NONSENSE - R.L. - 4/24/2004 4:11:03 AM
        
        I'm sure ANFO can knock down buildings - Pete Stanley - 4/25/2004 3:16:23 AM
        
        Ground level explosions - Larry J - 4/26/2004 4:50:53 PM
        
        Give it up... - R.L. - 4/25/2004 9:28:52 PM
        
        Hey - Mary Anne - 4/27/2004 1:16:07 PM
        
        Partin - Davin L. - 4/25/2004 5:40:06 AM
        
        More on explosives, and OKC - R.L. - 4/24/2004 5:44:31 AM
        
        re: accomplices - Pete Stanley - 4/25/2004 5:21:25 AM
        
        Ok Davin - Pete Stanley - 4/22/2004 9:45:42 AM
        
        Pete - Davin L. - 4/22/2004 3:27:05 PM
        
        Partin - Pete Stanley - 4/23/2004 9:24:33 AM
        
        hey jms - Davin L. - 4/21/2004 8:53:57 PM
        
        re: hey Davin - jms - 4/22/2004 1:53:06 AM
        
        hey x 2, jms - Davin L. - 4/22/2004 3:03:14 AM
        
        re: hey 2(Davin): P & S waves - jms - 4/22/2004 4:06:07 AM
        
        re: hey 2(Davin): P & S waves - Davin L. - 4/22/2004 4:55:24 AM
        
        conspiracy theories - FrankC - 4/21/2004 4:20:47 PM
  - maybe so, they are becoming a staple part of our diet (n/t) - FrankC - 4/20/2004 4:13:41 PM

How heros die - Buck Galaxy - 4/27/2004 6:04:26 AM
- re: How heros die - Tom Brosz - 4/27/2004 6:17:19 AM

Yahoo News: "Qaeda-linked chemical attack in Jordan could have killed 80,000: officials" - Larry J - 4/26/2004 10:01:14 PM
- What were the chemicals? - Gary - 4/27/2004 5:02:32 AM
  - re: What were the chemicals? - Tom Brosz - 4/27/2004 5:27:55 AM
    - I read the same article - Gary - 4/27/2004 5:56:50 AM

Interesting reports on reenlistment and morale - Tom Brosz - 4/27/2004 5:18:36 AM

Sudan demands Syria remove missiles and WMD components - Tom Brosz - 4/27/2004 4:23:20 AM

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