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Marines Hand Over Positions in Fallujah . . . - D. Spires - 5/1/2004 5:32:20 PM
- Belmont Club continues to follow this closely - Tom Brosz - 5/1/2004 6:33:18 PM
  - Belmont Club - April 30, 2003 - Bowser - 5/1/2004 6:44:52 PM
    - Show me a man who never speaks a mistaken word... - Pete Stanley - 5/2/2004 2:30:35 AM

Specter wastes no time stabbing Bush in the back - Tom Brosz - 4/29/2004 5:07:01 PM
- Can we pleeeease repeal the 17th amendment? (n/t) - Pete Stanley - 5/1/2004 7:40:41 AM
  - It would sure as hell get my vote. - Tom Brosz - 5/2/2004 12:04:20 AM
  - Your great-grandfather didn't think much of it either. -grin- - Mary Anne - 5/1/2004 7:05:28 PM
    - re: electoral college - Pete Stanley - 5/2/2004 2:09:49 AM
- Believe it or not... - Mary Anne - 4/29/2004 10:23:39 PM
- A Republican who's not a lock-step puppet? DEMAND ideological purity NOW!!! - Bowser - 4/29/2004 7:44:27 PM
  - re: A Republican who's not a lock-step puppet? DEMAND ideological purity NOW!!! - REB - 4/30/2004 1:09:37 PM
    - I'm not sure how this is relevant. - Bowser - 4/30/2004 2:44:28 PM
      - Not surprised - REB - 4/30/2004 3:15:10 PM
        
        It would have been relevant if Bowser held the belief that blacks should vote Democrat - alcaray - 4/30/2004 3:41:02 PM
        
        What are you, the post police now? - REB - 4/30/2004 3:51:01 PM
        
        Yep, that's me. - alcaray - 4/30/2004 4:46:31 PM
        
        One last thing, and I will stop ranting. - REB - 4/30/2004 4:01:56 PM
        
        You say I don't support free speech - alcaray - 4/30/2004 5:07:11 PM
        
        Sorry about that one. - REB - 4/30/2004 6:25:06 PM
        
        Goes with the territory, as you say. - alcaray - 4/30/2004 7:26:05 PM
  - Seriously... - Tom Brosz - 4/29/2004 9:34:38 PM
  - "You don't have to fall in love, you just have to fall in line." - Hillary Clinton reaming out Democrats worried about Kerry. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 4/29/2004 9:32:05 PM
  - Forget about the specter of communism, now the GOP has to deal with the specter of Specter! (n/t) - McFly - 4/29/2004 8:40:23 PM

Israel-US jointly test target acquisition for world's first laser destruction weapon. - David F Mayer - 5/2/2004 2:02:33 AM

Chickenhawk? - "Cheney's Five Draft Deferments During the Vietnam Era Emerge as a Campaign Issue" - Bowser - 5/1/2004 5:11:18 PM
- Kerry's record - Tom Brosz - 5/1/2004 6:10:43 PM
  - It is a joke - FrankC - 5/2/2004 1:44:30 AM
  - re: Cheney's speech - Tom Brosz - 5/1/2004 6:19:38 PM

Oh, my. The "Patriot Act" squelches disclosure of a suit challenging the contstitutionality of, guess what, the "Patriot Act". - Bowser - 5/1/2004 12:42:22 PM
- re: Don't worry, B . . . - D. Spires - 5/1/2004 5:07:11 PM
  - With you and Ashcroft looking out for me, what's to worry?? (n/t) - Bowser - 5/1/2004 6:47:42 PM
    - re: Really . . . ? - D. Spires - 5/1/2004 8:21:36 PM

10 new countries in the EU: Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia, Malta, Cyprus. - Raoul - 4/30/2004 4:24:41 PM
- re: May 1 !! - Raoul - 4/30/2004 10:02:46 PM
- Geez, and they just LEFT a socialist empire. ;) - Tom Brosz - 4/30/2004 4:50:36 PM
- I think that is great news. - REB - 4/30/2004 4:44:42 PM
  - re: Slow process - Raoul - 4/30/2004 6:30:16 PM
    - A very slow process - Buck Galaxy - 5/1/2004 3:53:19 AM
      - re: May 9 1950 - Raoul - 5/1/2004 6:21:34 PM

Abuses - Raoul - 4/29/2004 6:28:53 PM
- Yes Abuses - FrankC - 4/29/2004 6:45:42 PM
  - Somehow, Frank, I'll bet they don't get used to it. - Bowser - 4/29/2004 7:55:50 PM
    - "Looting" Iraq. - Tom Brosz - 4/29/2004 9:07:09 PM
      - C'mon Tom, you're being unreasonable - Lindy - 4/30/2004 3:31:58 PM
        
        re: C'mon Tom, you're being unreasonable - REB - 4/30/2004 4:33:09 PM
      - Reality v. rhetoric. - Bowser - 4/29/2004 10:24:03 PM
        
        Nice Summary Except - Mark Eby - 5/1/2004 4:33:34 AM
        
        Nice Summary Except - redux - Bowser - 5/1/2004 12:36:33 PM
        
        Glad I didn't Waste More Time - Mark Eby - 5/1/2004 3:38:11 PM
        
        re: Reality v. rhetoric. - gbaikie - 4/30/2004 12:02:32 AM
        
        You might want to read before posting. - Bowser - 4/30/2004 12:17:40 AM
    - Does that make any sense? - FrankC - 4/29/2004 8:11:02 PM
      - 1 + 1, Frank. - Bowser - 4/29/2004 10:13:42 PM
        
        Apology accepted - FrankC - 4/29/2004 11:35:27 PM
        
        For God's sake, and mine, get a grip! - Bowser - 4/30/2004 12:29:28 AM
        
        Understand this Corcoran - FrankC - 4/30/2004 12:48:17 AM
        
        Frank, stop embarrassing yourself. It's sad to watch. (n/t) - Bowser - 4/30/2004 4:25:55 AM
        
        Finally.. - FrankC - 4/30/2004 3:10:07 PM
  - re: The army stuff - Raoul - 4/29/2004 7:26:20 PM
  - re: Yes Abuses - SDG - 4/29/2004 7:22:22 PM

David Kay Blasts Bush Post-War Planning - Donald - 5/1/2004 3:45:13 AM
- "alleged program to build banned weapons?" - Tom Brosz - 5/1/2004 4:27:21 AM
  - Alone, all alone, in a big, wide world. - Bowser - 5/1/2004 12:52:05 PM
    - Exactly - Donald - 5/1/2004 1:57:56 PM
- Can't disagree with him - FrankC - 5/1/2004 4:25:13 AM

How's It Going? - Mark Eby - 4/30/2004 3:06:55 AM
- re: How's It Going? - gbaikie - 5/1/2004 1:35:04 AM
  - Not Really Back Yet GB and REB - Mark Eby - 5/1/2004 4:25:25 AM
- re: How's It Going? - REB - 4/30/2004 1:13:57 PM
- Mars Rover raw image pages are worth the price of an internet connection all by themselves! (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 4/30/2004 3:25:34 AM

From a Marine in Iraq - Tom Brosz - 4/29/2004 10:41:38 PM
- re: From a Marine in Iraq - Art Martin - 4/30/2004 9:44:48 PM
  - Danger from terror - Tom Brosz - 5/1/2004 2:39:04 AM

Some more info on uranium and Niger from latest "tell-all" book - Tom Brosz - 4/30/2004 6:48:41 PM
- re: Some more info on uranium and Niger from latest "tell-all" book - gbaikie - 4/30/2004 10:54:07 PM

And so it begins? - Tom Brosz - 4/28/2004 7:04:20 PM
- Later phases in Nigeria - Tom Brosz - 4/30/2004 5:30:27 AM
  - More from Nigeria - Tom Brosz - 4/30/2004 9:19:03 PM
- Repeat. And so WHAT begins? (n/t) - Bowser - 4/29/2004 8:10:36 PM
- I don't see the problem here. - Mary Anne - 4/29/2004 12:42:58 PM
  - You may be right. I hope so. - Tom Brosz - 4/29/2004 4:15:46 PM
    - Actually, some local Christian groups do have arbitration groups. - Mary Anne - 4/29/2004 10:34:36 PM
- re: And so it begins? - SDG - 4/28/2004 11:35:02 PM
- And so what begins? (n/t) - Bowser - 4/28/2004 9:23:41 PM
  - Where's the outrage? - FrankC - 4/28/2004 9:52:48 PM
    - At what? (n/t) - Bowser - 4/28/2004 11:13:37 PM
- Convicted Muslim thieves in Canada won't have to worry about losing their hands. - Jacob Samorodin - 4/28/2004 7:58:54 PM
- re: And so it begins? - gbaikie - 4/28/2004 7:32:07 PM

"Bush prepares for testimony." Sad day for America in the eyes of the world. - Bowser - 4/28/2004 9:33:08 PM
- Apparently Clinton needed two handlers. - Tom Brosz - 4/30/2004 4:29:22 AM
  - On 1-20-01, GWB was inaugurated. On 9-11-'03 WTC occurred. - Bowser - 4/30/2004 2:55:40 PM
    - Not even a good try. - Tom Brosz - 4/30/2004 7:06:47 PM
    - Do we have to go down this road again. - REB - 4/30/2004 3:34:17 PM
  - re: Clinton handlers - Tom Brosz - 4/30/2004 4:49:21 AM
  - Example-- - Tom Brosz - 4/30/2004 4:41:41 AM

Bed & Jerry's Uses Sound to Chill Ice Cream - jms - 4/29/2004 7:29:58 PM
- "Sounds" like a ripoff of Macrosonix's invention. - Lee - 4/30/2004 5:57:59 AM
  - re: "Sounds" like a ripoff of Macrosonix's invention. - REB - 4/30/2004 7:05:50 PM

Iraqis favor U.S. pullout - Donald - 4/29/2004 3:07:31 PM
- Other conclusions that can be drawn - Tom Brosz - 4/30/2004 4:36:24 PM
- re: Iraqis favor U.S. pullout - Buck Galaxy - 4/29/2004 4:48:54 PM
- For those who don't like their news filtered through "Pravda:" - Tom Brosz - 4/29/2004 3:50:38 PM

U.N. scandals: a commentary from Australia - Tom Brosz - 4/28/2004 3:27:53 AM
- And just who else will bail out Cheney/bush? Better make nice. - Bowser - 4/28/2004 7:14:02 PM
- If the UN scandals take 'em out, how about the US corporate scandals. - Bowser - 4/28/2004 3:56:16 AM
  - World leaders aren't demanding that U.S. corporations be put in charge of nations and world peace keeping. - Tom Brosz - 4/28/2004 4:32:13 AM
    - Well then, how about... - McFly - 4/28/2004 12:59:05 PM
      - This wouldn't be that "Well, the other guys are doing it too" defense I'm always getting reamed for using? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 4/28/2004 4:00:50 PM
        
        I'd be interested in seeing the outrage. - Bowser - 4/28/2004 6:08:21 PM
        
        re: I'd be interested in seeing the outrage. - REB - 4/28/2004 7:18:38 PM
        
        re: outrage. - Tom Brosz - 4/28/2004 6:45:39 PM
        
        Cursory check. - Bowser - 4/28/2004 7:06:22 PM
        
        re: Cursory check. - Tom Brosz - 4/28/2004 8:11:39 PM
        
        Contracts - Bowser - 4/28/2004 9:22:23 PM
        
        Outrage - FrankC - 4/28/2004 7:29:13 PM
        
        No, not in the least...well, maybe a bit...yeah, ok, totally...geez, busted... (n/t) - McFly - 4/28/2004 5:21:18 PM
        
        re: busted - Tom Brosz - 4/28/2004 5:39:06 PM
      - Oil for Food Scandal - REB - 4/28/2004 1:34:21 PM
        
        Punished in front of Arab eyes? - alcaray - 4/28/2004 3:22:55 PM
        
        re: Punished in front of Arab eyes? - REB - 4/28/2004 3:50:38 PM
        
        As long as you are not talking about an ugly-American campaign to stamp out baksheesh, then I'm with you (n/t) - alcaray - 4/28/2004 4:58:01 PM
        
        I am hoping for a free and prosperous Iraq - REB - 4/28/2004 5:22:48 PM
        
        re: I am hoping for a free and prosperous Iraq - REB - 4/28/2004 7:02:13 PM
        
        You need to be a little more careful about your sources - alcaray - 4/29/2004 3:22:54 PM
        
        Occupation - Tom Brosz - 4/29/2004 4:47:15 PM
        
        Exactly. So what's up with the commentary? (n/t) - alcaray - 4/30/2004 3:25:54 PM

CBS/NYT Poll: Growing Doubts On Iraq - 70% don't believe Cheney/bush decided in 3-'03 as they claim. - Bowser - 4/29/2004 1:55:27 PM
- An observation: - Tom Brosz - 4/29/2004 6:33:23 PM
  - Lessee - when the polls agree with your position, it's the wisdom of the people. - Bowser - 4/29/2004 7:50:17 PM
    - re: Lessee - when the polls agree with your position, it's the wisdom of the people. - Pete Stanley - 4/30/2004 6:16:27 AM
      - Superficially, you seen correct. - Bowser - 4/30/2004 2:30:07 PM
- Those who can no longer be asked - Donald - 4/29/2004 2:17:07 PM
  - That question is best answered... - FrankC - 4/29/2004 4:05:53 PM

A perspective from past wars. . . ` - Justin Kelly - 4/27/2004 2:36:18 AM
- The Korean War was fought under Truman, a Democrat. - Mary Anne - 4/29/2004 11:22:55 AM
  - And Eisenhower, a Republican - Larry J - 4/29/2004 1:34:59 PM
    - re: "... had victory been a goal" - Fox - 4/30/2004 2:21:34 AM
      - re: "... had victory been a goal" - Larry J - 4/30/2004 1:50:01 PM
- I believe most Americans agree Justin - FrankC - 4/27/2004 3:04:40 AM

Seoul accepts second N.Korea Aid Request - more than just releif? - Justin Kelly - 4/30/2004 2:31:48 AM
- A few North Korea links - Pete Stanley - 4/30/2004 7:18:22 AM
- Editorial on aid requests, N Korea turned down hospital ships, doctors and other medical supplies - Justin Kelly - 4/30/2004 4:54:21 AM

Now for some REALLY GOOD NEWS from the Middle East - Buck Galaxy - 4/30/2004 4:52:58 AM
- re: Now for some REALLY GOOD NEWS from the Middle East - Tom Brosz - 4/30/2004 5:48:52 AM

A comment on the media by an editor - Tom Brosz - 4/30/2004 4:51:54 AM

Bush, Cheney Meet With 9/11 Panel . . . - D. Spires - 4/29/2004 10:04:55 PM
- Edgar Cheney and Charley McBush. Or Mortimer Snerd. - Bowser - 4/30/2004 4:34:09 AM
  - "At least he was his own man." Right. - Tom Brosz - 4/30/2004 4:43:50 AM
- Hamilton and Kerrey bailed out partway through - Tom Brosz - 4/29/2004 10:16:21 PM

Hussein's Agents Are Behind Attacks in Iraq, Pentagon Finds . . . - D. Spires - 4/29/2004 11:55:46 PM
- NO, you don't say....... - Lindy - 4/30/2004 2:52:07 AM

I have no idea what to make of this. - Tom Brosz - 4/29/2004 4:38:25 PM
- Very often, the best thing to do... - Larry J - 4/29/2004 5:58:25 PM
  - Those are good points - McFly - 4/29/2004 7:03:43 PM
    - Annan - Tom Brosz - 4/29/2004 9:25:23 PM
      - Uhhm Tom... - SDG - 4/29/2004 9:57:52 PM
        
        Freeing a nation - Tom Brosz - 4/30/2004 1:52:46 AM
        
        I see your point but.... - FrankC - 4/29/2004 11:56:27 PM

Thai Troops Kill 112 in Repelling Muslim Attackers . . . - D. Spires - 4/29/2004 11:57:39 PM

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