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Reasonable inference? - Bowser - 3/26/2004 10:22:06 PM
- re: Reasonable inference? - gbaikie - 3/27/2004 4:38:18 AM
  - "the first black woman president"? - Mary Anne - 3/27/2004 1:29:37 PM
    - speaking of which... - Fox - 3/28/2004 4:36:27 AM
    - "Partisan attack dogs don't get elected President by either party" - Tom Brosz - 3/28/2004 12:58:34 AM
      - Kerry doesn't have a VP candidate yet. - Mary Anne - 3/28/2004 3:55:03 PM
    - re: "the first black woman president"?????? - Tony - 3/27/2004 8:45:18 PM
      - From the first she's been used as the "attack dog". - Bowser - 3/27/2004 8:52:41 PM
  - Can you comprehend the language? And shouldn't you be out stealing hubcaps or somehting? - Bowser - 3/27/2004 4:49:37 AM
    - re: Can you comprehend the language? - Tom Brosz - 3/27/2004 5:44:11 AM
      - Can you focus? I truly wonder. - Bpwser - 3/27/2004 4:46:33 PM
      - And what Rice is doing *isn't* public grandstanding?? - Mary Anne - 3/27/2004 1:25:10 PM
        
        Pay no attention to what my other hand is doing... - Tom Brosz - 3/27/2004 7:04:56 PM
        
        Pay no attention to what I'm saying out of the *other* side of my mouth.... (You make it so easy!) - Davin L. - 3/28/2004 6:43:22 AM
        
        re: Pay no attention - Tom Brosz - 3/28/2004 7:31:19 AM
        
        re: Pay no attention - Davin L. - 3/28/2004 7:47:27 AM
        
        1) Does not respond to the inconsistency I pointed out in YOUR posts and 2) What little you actually bring forward to impugn Clarke is a non-issue - Davin L. - 3/28/2004 7:39:30 AM
        
        Lost focus?? - Tom Brosz - 3/28/2004 8:37:45 PM
        
        Oh, just admit it, Tom - Davin L. - 3/29/2004 3:51:46 AM
        
        re: Pay no attention to what my other hand is doing... - Davin L. - 3/28/2004 6:34:14 AM
        
        Clarke is the one who is being accused of a crime here, and elsewhere - Mary Anne - 3/27/2004 11:19:21 PM
        
        No, but if it stops that will upset the entire group. - Bowser - 3/27/2004 10:25:05 PM
        
        That's "was already . . . accused". Sorry. - Mary Anne - 3/27/2004 1:27:03 PM
- Talk about changing stories in mid-spiel... - Mary Anne - 3/27/2004 1:06:50 AM

White House Retreat on 9/11 Claims, or "No wonder she won't take an oath." - Bowser - 3/28/2004 8:16:02 PM

"...most of the strategies approved by high-level Bush officials on Sept. 4 and Sept. 10, 2001, were nearly identical in thrust to the policies pursued by the Clinton team." - Bowser - 3/27/2004 5:16:14 PM
- re: In other words . . . - D. Spires - 3/27/2004 5:21:24 PM
  - You don't like those words? I'll try again. - Bowser - 3/27/2004 5:45:06 PM
    - re: In other words . . . - D. spires - 3/27/2004 5:54:44 PM
      - Oh, Dan. For crying out loud! In other words, get serious. - Bowser - 3/27/2004 6:13:52 PM
        
        re: Oh, I can't be serious when I'm typing to you, B . . . - D. Spires - 3/27/2004 6:46:55 PM
        
        re: In other words, get serious. - Tom Brosz - 3/27/2004 6:38:09 PM
        
        re:Face it you and the GOP are attacking a honest man...is this moral? (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 3/28/2004 7:48:47 PM
        
        And another dishonesty recycled from the 'O'Spin Factor' nonsense - Davin L. - 3/28/2004 7:21:21 AM
        
        re: In other words, get serious. - Davin L. - 3/28/2004 7:16:39 AM

Israel Pushes White House to Accept Its Withdrawal Plan . . . - D. Spires - 3/27/2004 5:47:21 PM
- We've come a long way - Buck Galaxy - 3/28/2004 4:29:16 PM

What Condi and Cheney have to say about Clarke. - Bowser - 3/28/2004 6:37:27 AM
- re: Clarke - Raoul - 3/28/2004 9:52:40 AM
- re: What Condi and Cheney have to say about Clarke. - Tom Brosz - 3/28/2004 7:09:58 AM

US Armed Forces morale in Iraq seems pretty well shot. - Bowser - 3/26/2004 10:51:16 PM
- re: It's not particularly surprising . . . - D. Spires - 3/27/2004 6:04:04 PM
  - How do these numbers compare with other war situations? - Tom Brosz - 3/27/2004 6:53:55 PM
  - I might respectfully (that happens to be sorta true this time) disagree. - Bowser - 3/27/2004 6:24:52 PM
- Maybe if they could get on the Halliburton (401)k it would help. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/27/2004 4:00:48 AM

8 Hostages Executed in Pakistan Siege . . . - D. Spires - 3/27/2004 5:39:10 PM
- It's interesting that .... - Gary - 3/27/2004 6:09:36 PM
  - re: Well . . . - D. Spires - 3/27/2004 6:38:37 PM
  - Hard to tell what happened there. - Bowser - 3/27/2004 6:18:03 PM

Spain Says It Holds Half of Group That Bombed Trains . . . - D. Spires - 3/27/2004 5:31:05 PM

Republicans for Nader! - Bowser - 3/27/2004 4:20:21 PM

Just wondering... - Tom Brosz - 3/25/2004 5:28:44 AM
- They have trained themselves nearly perfectly to ignore what they have said or thought before - ebnelson - 3/25/2004 12:47:17 PM
- welcome to Tom ignores the facts - R.L. - 3/25/2004 7:46:36 AM
  - answer the question Tom - R.L. - 3/25/2004 8:12:28 PM
    - re: answer the question Tom - gbaikie - 3/26/2004 4:56:03 AM
      - SHORT MEMORY - R.L. - 3/26/2004 6:03:26 AM
        
        re: SHORT MEMORY - Larry J - 3/26/2004 4:40:20 PM
        
        re: SHORT MEMORY - gbaikie - 3/26/2004 10:46:58 PM
        
        re: SHORT MEMORY - Davin L. - 3/27/2004 12:38:35 AM
        
        re: SHORT MEMORY - gbaikie - 3/27/2004 2:48:16 AM
        
        re: SHORT MEMORY - Davin L. - 3/27/2004 5:25:43 AM
        
        re: SHORT MEMORY - gbaikie - 3/27/2004 6:46:11 AM
    - re: answer the question - Tom Brosz - 3/26/2004 1:00:34 AM
- Another straw man. Another piece of nonsense. Another bit of black and white thinking. - Bowser - 3/25/2004 5:42:30 AM

Weasel update - Tom Brosz - 3/26/2004 4:26:06 AM
- re: Weasel update - Raoul - 3/26/2004 11:30:45 PM
  - Back on the steady road to European socialism (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/27/2004 3:01:49 AM
- re: Weasel update - gbaikie - 3/26/2004 5:24:50 AM
- I hope you buy that paper, and the next time you whine about "media bias" you have the grace to - - - - Bowser - 3/26/2004 5:14:56 AM
  - re: I hope you buy that paper - Tom Brosz - 3/26/2004 5:30:37 AM

Oh, THOSE buttmonkeys. - Tom Brosz - 3/24/2004 7:03:22 AM
- Same meeting, another source: - Tom Brosz - 3/26/2004 9:48:41 PM
- I thought we'd settled this "media bias" BS. - Bowser - 3/24/2004 6:40:02 PM
  - A more cynical man than me - Tony - 3/24/2004 8:46:03 PM
- Oh- THAT 'buttmonkey'! - Davin L. - 3/24/2004 3:43:45 PM
  - And about blogs... - Tom Brosz - 3/24/2004 4:30:35 PM
    - Remember that "fact" implies truth. Be careful out there. (n/t) - alcaray - 3/24/2004 6:42:21 PM
    - re: And about blogs... - Davin L. - 3/24/2004 5:10:47 PM
  - Check the original link. - Tom Brosz - 3/24/2004 4:20:14 PM
    - re: Check the original link. - alcaray - 3/24/2004 4:26:59 PM
      - Again, you're kidding, right? - Tom Brosz - 3/24/2004 4:44:45 PM
        
        So - alcaray - 3/24/2004 6:28:46 PM
        
        re: Good grief. - Tom Brosz - 3/24/2004 7:24:40 PM
        
        Um...er... - McFly - 3/24/2004 8:46:40 PM
        
        Look, guy, I don't know this source... - alcaray - 3/24/2004 8:09:29 PM
        
        re: Look, guy, I don't know this source... - gbaikie - 3/25/2004 7:46:03 AM
        
        re: Look, guy, I don't know this source... - alcaray - 3/25/2004 4:28:22 PM
        
        re: Look, guy, I don't know this source... - gbaikie - 3/25/2004 8:14:50 PM
        
        Sorry about the misunderstanding - alcaray - 3/26/2004 4:03:20 PM

Clarke in 2002 - Tom Brosz - 3/24/2004 5:26:42 PM
- KC Star editorial (3/26/04) - Fox - 3/26/2004 2:56:45 PM
  - Another editorial - Fox - 3/26/2004 5:02:18 PM
- Tom: Remember that the point of the left's big lie technique is to be able to ignore the truth (n/t) - ebnelson - 3/25/2004 4:41:37 AM
  - Dang, Ed- you left your random noise generator on again! Turn that noise down - Davin L. - 3/25/2004 5:47:28 PM
- The other side of your story. - Bowser - 3/24/2004 9:49:56 PM
- Good idea. - Tony - 3/24/2004 6:22:01 PM
  - So, was he lying then, or lying now? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/24/2004 6:53:50 PM
    - Or maybe he was being loyal then - Davin L. - 3/24/2004 7:15:21 PM
      - Okay, lying then, credible now. If you say so. - Tom Brosz - 3/24/2004 8:12:55 PM
        
        Three points - Davin L. - 3/24/2004 8:47:03 PM
        
        Timing........ - Tony - 3/24/2004 8:17:40 PM
    - Give up speedreading, and go for comprehension. - Bowser - 3/24/2004 7:14:39 PM
- Time to give it up, Tom. Too many people are telling the same story. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/24/2004 5:52:50 PM
  - Get serious. Clarke isn't even telling the same story. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/24/2004 6:54:45 PM

"Time" article on Clarke - Tom Brosz - 3/26/2004 3:33:10 AM
- Dramatic hyperbole - FrankC - 3/26/2004 3:46:14 PM
- He is intense. - Bowser - 3/26/2004 5:29:23 AM

Bush Intentionally Driving Gas Prices Up?? - Lindy - 3/26/2004 7:45:06 AM

So whose fault is 91, anyway? - ebnelson - 3/25/2004 4:58:29 AM
- The answer is obvious, ed.... - R.L. - 3/25/2004 7:20:40 AM
  - Why must you be so *divisive* - Davin L. - 3/25/2004 8:53:18 PM
    - And, he's getting fat from so many fortune cookies. - Bowser - 3/25/2004 9:43:23 PM
  - LOL...gawd, that's clever. I love the 'Zone! (making mental note to double check for typos) :-) (n/t) - McFly - 3/25/2004 8:30:14 PM
  - Before that, though, didn't the A - Rabs invent the zero? And the 9. And 1? (n/t) - Bowser - 3/25/2004 7:13:40 PM
    - I think Al Gore invented the 9. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/26/2004 4:20:40 AM
  - LOL, that about sums it up (n/t) - SDG - 3/25/2004 3:44:41 PM
  - Thanks - ebnelson - 3/25/2004 12:40:19 PM

Cognitive Dissonance - Buck Galaxy - 3/24/2004 8:05:15 AM
- Energy - Tom Brosz - 3/25/2004 5:17:51 AM
  - Unfortunately, Nuclear energy won't rid us of the combustion engine. (n/t) - Buck Galaxy - 3/26/2004 12:36:34 AM
    - Maybe not, but it could make a true hydrogen economy feasible. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/26/2004 1:55:56 AM
  - Agreed - McFly - 3/25/2004 8:11:52 PM
    - re: Agreed - Tom Brosz - 3/25/2004 10:19:22 PM
- Excellent post, Buck - Fox - 3/25/2004 4:14:22 AM
- re: Cognitive Dissonance - Raoul - 3/24/2004 7:16:11 PM
  - His voting record does not support that conclusion (n/t) - ebnelson - 3/25/2004 12:50:28 PM
- re: Cognitive Dissonance rating system - phil - 3/24/2004 7:11:49 PM
- I hear you Buck...talk about having the carpet pulled from under your feet, huh? (n/t) - McFly - 3/24/2004 3:12:46 PM
- What's possible. What's not. Choices and their consequences. - Bowser - 3/24/2004 1:37:44 PM
  - re: "we chose to spend a lot of money" - alcaray - 3/24/2004 4:17:36 PM
    - Heh, heh. If Bill Gates planned like that, he wouldn't have his job for long. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/24/2004 5:48:59 PM

Jordanian Prince in WWIII warning - Bowser - 3/26/2004 12:55:16 AM

Inadequate text retrieval at FBI led to failure to detect al Qaeda sleeper cells - E.P. Grondine - 3/25/2004 9:10:37 PM

stopping the bombers - Daniel - 2/22/2004 12:48:30 PM
- We must ensure that suicide bombers are driving safe cars (n/t) - Ralph Nader - 2/23/2004 2:40:44 AM
- On the other hand, what started the Sepoy Mutiny in India? Three guesses. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 2/22/2004 9:43:48 PM
  - re: On the other hand, what started the Sepoy Mutiny in India? Three guesses. - P.Nefesh - 3/25/2004 6:04:37 PM
- You gotta kill everyone who doesn't like you. - Bowser - 2/22/2004 9:08:57 PM
  - Yes, yes we know but - FrankC - 2/23/2004 4:55:02 AM
  - Your rhetoric hasn't picked up much real substance with time. - Tom Brosz - 2/23/2004 3:37:16 AM
    - Your "substance" is silly, and I think you know it. - Bowser - 2/23/2004 3:28:02 PM
      - A little substance - Tom Brosz - 2/23/2004 5:36:20 PM
    - re: Your rhetoric hasn't picked up much real substance with time. - Daniel - 2/23/2004 11:24:23 AM
    - You're good at research. - Bowser - 2/23/2004 6:03:07 AM
      - you *must* be joking! - Daniel - 2/23/2004 11:52:03 AM
      - re: You're good at research. - Tom Brosz - 2/23/2004 6:23:55 AM
        
        re: You're good at research. - Odin - 2/23/2004 10:19:38 AM
- re: stopping the bombers - Tom Brosz - 2/22/2004 9:04:25 PM
- Pretty unlikely to work at all. Instead, we must continue what we have been doing: - David F Mayer - 2/22/2004 6:02:13 PM
- P.S. Is it true that most of the suicide bombers had a history of sex abuse? - Scott Evil - 2/22/2004 1:24:18 PM
  - Look, we already know they're nuts. Why invent oddball reasons for it? - Tom Brosz - 2/22/2004 9:06:27 PM
  - interesting dialectical tactic...... - Publius - 2/22/2004 4:41:35 PM
    - Indeed. Why aren't there more American Catholic suicide bombers? - Mary Anne - 2/22/2004 5:20:12 PM
      - Suicide would be a mortal sin, and suicide bombing is invariably fatal to the bomber. - Bowser - 2/23/2004 5:14:20 PM
      - that's also a very good point, and well made - Daniel - 2/23/2004 12:07:00 PM
  - good point, if true - Daniel - 2/22/2004 1:43:36 PM
- I like the Bush plan: Kill the terrorists before they kill you. And kill them where they live. - Scott Evil - 2/22/2004 1:18:23 PM
  - I'm trying to be serious, not inflammatory - Daniel - 2/22/2004 1:38:35 PM

An interesting point - Davin L. - 3/25/2004 1:23:00 AM
- Narcissism - it's understandable, if not pretty. - Bowser - 3/25/2004 2:24:28 AM
- Sorry. Democrats are going to have to work a bit harder for it this year. - Tom Brosz - 3/25/2004 1:45:54 AM
  - The convenience of the dems pretending having meetings about Al Qaeda was actually doing something about Al Qaeda - ebnelson - 3/25/2004 4:49:47 AM
  - So Bush shouldn't accept any blame for 9-11? - Odin - 3/25/2004 3:43:19 AM
  - Yeah, of couse you would respond this way: You're a partisan shill for the right. - Davin L. - 3/25/2004 3:20:11 AM
    - re: partisan shill for the right. - Tom Brosz - 3/25/2004 5:12:50 AM
      - re: partisan shill for the right. - Davin L. - 3/25/2004 4:23:32 PM
  - Ya gotta help me understand. - Bowser - 3/25/2004 2:42:24 AM
    - re: Ya gotta help me understand. - gbaikie - 3/25/2004 5:02:25 AM
      - Hi there, little guy. You're up late! (n/t) - Bowser - 3/25/2004 5:37:49 AM
- I agree completely - Tony - 3/25/2004 1:39:47 AM

Hamas changes its mind about targeting America - Tom Brosz - 3/25/2004 2:05:28 AM
- They heard about the USAF loading cluster bombs on B-52s and decided that they would rather play with Israel. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 3/25/2004 5:51:05 AM

Key Republicans offering boost for Kerry over Bush - Bowser - 3/25/2004 12:11:13 AM

"Of course, Bush officials have to attack Mr. Clarke's character because there is plenty of independent evidence confirming the thrust of his charges." - Bowser - 3/24/2004 5:10:30 AM
- Have you actually been watching any of the hearings? - Tom Brosz - 3/24/2004 6:14:08 AM
  - Some things aren't "all politics". - Bowser - 3/24/2004 2:48:14 PM
  - Hold it! Iraq's Biggest WMD Discovered....News at 11 - Lindy - 3/24/2004 6:31:11 AM
  - Oh, by the way... - Tom Brosz - 3/24/2004 6:19:44 AM
    - I miss when put it in your own words. - alcaray - 3/24/2004 11:40:37 PM

A look at the al Qaeda controversy - Tom Brosz - 3/24/2004 6:49:04 AM
- If you think - Tony - 3/24/2004 4:14:03 PM
  - Maybe they did. - RobV - 3/24/2004 5:32:42 PM
    - And I would reply - Tony - 3/24/2004 6:43:40 PM
      - The trick would be to find fault irrespective of blame. - RobVG - 3/24/2004 7:08:30 PM

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