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Lileks on the protests - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2004 4:54:28 PM
- Citizen Smash attends a protest - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2004 3:58:53 AM
  - Girls like Rebecca - Gary - 3/23/2004 5:18:16 PM
- Will the real traitors please stand up. - RobVG - 3/23/2004 12:50:48 AM
  - re: Will the real traitors please stand up. - Lindy - 3/24/2004 7:42:45 AM
    - You didn't get past the post did you Lindy? - RobVG - 3/24/2004 4:55:47 PM
      - I was referring to......... - Lindy - 3/24/2004 6:55:38 PM
  - Traitor: Your either for Bush or for terrorism, for Bush or for evil, for Bush or a traitor. - Bowser - 3/23/2004 2:24:07 AM
    - re: Traitor - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2004 3:47:33 AM
      - You never met my ex-wife (n/t) - alcaray - 3/23/2004 11:23:25 PM
        
        It wasn't Rebecca, was it? ;) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/24/2004 6:55:42 AM
      - Crossthreaded - Robert - 3/23/2004 5:31:57 AM
      - The problem you got with them. - Bowser - 3/23/2004 4:15:31 AM
        
        Still checking for the height of the bar... - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2004 4:55:07 AM
        
        Asked and answered, councilor - alcaray - 3/23/2004 11:32:29 PM
        
        Sorry. Way too much Law&Order on TV. (n/t) - alcaray - 3/24/2004 6:31:04 PM
        
        re: Still checking for the height of the bar... - McFly - 3/23/2004 6:02:37 PM
        
        How many examples do I need? - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2004 8:01:34 PM
        
        re: How many examples do I need? - McFly - 3/23/2004 11:16:12 PM
        
        We screwed up royally?? - Lindy - 3/24/2004 7:11:16 AM
        
        Interesting. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/24/2004 3:22:08 PM
        
        Thanks for the info - McFly - 3/24/2004 3:07:34 PM
        
        Well done. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/24/2004 4:13:26 AM
        
        Yeah! Like he [McFly] said!! - Davin L. - 3/24/2004 1:38:31 AM
        
        Who invaded whom? Who could stop the invasion? - Bowser - 3/23/2004 9:48:16 PM
        
        re: Who invaded whom? - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2004 10:23:56 PM
        
        "Forgive them, all, Father, for they know not what they do, or say. Or think." - Bowser - 3/23/2004 5:29:14 AM
        
        re: The problem you got with them. - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2004 4:32:08 AM

Traitors - a conservative double-standard. - Bowser - 3/24/2004 6:31:42 PM

Best U.N. idea I've seen in a long time... - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2004 11:37:19 PM
- Not bad - McFly - 3/24/2004 3:29:57 PM
- Thanks for the link Tom! - Buck Galaxy - 3/24/2004 7:28:50 AM

Panel: U.S. Had Plan to Overthrow Taliban . . . - D. Spires - 3/23/2004 10:29:47 PM

The Covenant of the Hamas - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2004 10:01:58 PM
- By the way... - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2004 10:08:21 PM

More "rogue" nations stuff: "Iraq war wasn't justified, U.N. weapons experts say" - Bowser - 3/22/2004 5:39:21 AM
- Cheney is right about the record of the IAEA - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2004 5:50:05 AM
  - Cheney's way is not the only way - McFly - 3/22/2004 3:28:34 PM
    - re: Cheney's way is not the only way - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2004 4:03:13 PM
  - Iraq and nukes. Blix +1, Cheney -1. (What the hell, let's go to war anyway.) (n/t) - Bowser - 3/22/2004 5:57:11 AM
  - Well, its coforting to know Cheney was right about something WRT Iraq and Nukes! - Davin L. - 3/22/2004 5:56:08 AM
    - U.N. - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2004 6:06:49 AM
      - Does not speak to my point at all, and is largely inaccurate - Davin L - 3/22/2004 6:23:05 AM
        
        Your point that the U.N. was right--once--is the entire point. - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2004 6:49:47 AM
        
        pulling out the hip-waders for this one - Davin L. - 3/22/2004 5:29:41 PM
        
        Like trying to nail Jello to a tree - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2004 7:54:31 PM
        
        "Like trying to nail ... tree": is that what you call changing the subject or being disigenuous nned down on points? - DavinL. - 3/23/2004 5:01:42 PM
        
        er: *when pinned* down on points (n/t) - Davin L. - 3/23/2004 5:03:40 PM
      - Iraq! (n/t) - Bowser - 3/22/2004 6:15:57 AM

Another one bites the dust - Buck Galaxy - 3/22/2004 4:04:17 PM
- 2 articles - for and against - both good reading - Daniel - 3/23/2004 1:41:27 PM
- Just trying to make him happy - Larry J - 3/22/2004 5:53:07 PM
- re: Another one bites the dust - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2004 4:27:40 PM
  - re: Another one bites the dust - McFly - 3/22/2004 7:31:04 PM
  - Making the bad guys mad - Gary - 3/22/2004 6:22:52 PM
  - In case anyone's forgotten... - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2004 4:32:27 PM
    - Sharon: "Hmmm. Who can we target who will make the best martyr?" - alcaray - 3/22/2004 5:48:40 PM
      - re: Who can we target?" - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2004 6:30:17 PM
        
        Sorry. Took your feigned rhetorical confusion for true. (n/t) - alcaray - 3/22/2004 10:16:12 PM
      - "And just to confuse everyone..." - alcaray - 3/22/2004 6:12:23 PM
        
        You're kidding, right? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2004 6:34:03 PM
        
        No - alcaray - 3/23/2004 12:15:52 AM
        
        re: Too bad - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2004 2:31:36 AM
        
        Yeah, that would have been fun, darn! (n/t) - gbaikie - 3/23/2004 2:56:18 AM

Al-Qaida's No. 2 claims to have nukes - RobVG - 3/22/2004 2:54:54 AM
- All of its old news, but chilling... I wonder why we are hearing so much about it on the very day Mr Clarke releases his excerpts? - Davin L. - 3/22/2004 4:03:48 AM
  - This story pops up on a regular cycle - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2004 4:46:07 PM
    - No, Tom! get it straight! ;-) - Davin L. - 3/22/2004 6:08:49 PM
      - Cool. "A vote for Bush is a vote for a great cabinet!" - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2004 4:58:47 AM
        
        Quality of intellect not= quality of ethics (n/t) - Davin l. - 3/23/2004 5:52:22 AM
  - Can't be too cynical these days. - RobVG - 3/22/2004 5:37:49 AM

Gee, look who's outsourcing! - RobVG - 3/22/2004 6:01:28 AM
- the potential advantage for Kerry is... - McFly - 3/22/2004 11:00:24 PM
  - OOOF! McFly! Watch where you point that thing - Davin L. - 3/22/2004 11:25:03 PM
  - LOL- Spreading it a little thick aren't you? (n/t) - RobVG - 3/22/2004 11:05:33 PM
- re: Gee, look who's outsourcing! - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2004 4:08:22 PM
  - Those darn hypocrites! - Tony - 3/22/2004 4:32:18 PM
    - re: Those darn hypocrites! - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2004 4:36:25 PM
      - You are not usually this obtuse - Tony - 3/22/2004 7:33:09 PM
        
        re: obtuse - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2004 4:22:08 AM
- And who doesn't? Cheap shot. I know, I take 'em. Regularly. - Bowser - 3/22/2004 4:08:04 PM
- Ouch - McFly - 3/22/2004 2:48:55 PM
  - re: Ouch - RobVG - 3/22/2004 3:27:14 PM
    - Quite right - McFly - 3/22/2004 3:48:02 PM

White House on Clarke - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2004 7:25:44 PM
- Lieberman on Clarke - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2004 1:56:51 AM

Y'know what happens when you put the batteries into the Energizer bunny backwards? - Bowser - 3/22/2004 2:58:37 AM
- Clarke- an axe to grind (demoted) and a book to sell. "Why would he lie?" (n/t) - RobVG - 3/22/2004 5:57:50 AM
- "The Elephant in the Room" - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2004 5:19:31 AM
  - UhOh, here come the marching of the shills - Davin L. - 3/22/2004 5:41:29 AM
    - You fools! - RobVG - 3/22/2004 3:15:28 PM
    - -sigh- ok, I'll bite. . . - Justin Kelly - 3/22/2004 12:58:57 PM
      - Response for Justin and Tom and 'etc' - Davin L. - 3/22/2004 4:57:58 PM
    - re: UhOh - gbaikie - 3/22/2004 11:41:20 AM
    - Uh...you want to go over those counts again more carefully? - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2004 7:19:27 AM
      - Stooopid Republican comebacks and other redundancies. - Odin - 3/22/2004 7:45:51 AM
        
        Hey, I was giving him a shot at correcting it himself. - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2004 4:40:00 PM
        
        see above Tom, I stand corrected. - Davin L. - 3/22/2004 5:00:47 PM
  - Still trying to squeeze 9-11 back onto Clinton's watch, huh. - Bowser - 3/22/2004 5:33:17 AM
    - We're not talking about Clinton's watch, but Clarke's. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2004 7:20:17 AM

And here they come. "White House dismisses former adviser's charges" - Bowser - 3/22/2004 6:10:54 AM
- And having worked for Republicans is relevant how? - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2004 6:15:12 AM
  - Goes to the "it's all politics" charge. And stop preaching moderation. - Bowser - 3/22/2004 3:43:02 PM

Oh, in case anyone has forgotten: Oil for Food money. - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2004 6:28:02 AM

NEWSWEEK: In the Months Before 9/11, Justice Department Curtailed Highly Classified Program to Monitor Al Qaeda Suspects in the U.S. - Bowser - 3/22/2004 5:12:07 AM
- We'll ride out Clarke's fifteen minutes just like we rode out O'Neil's. - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2004 5:22:20 AM
  - It doesn't even phase you that - Davin L. - 3/22/2004 5:44:56 AM
    - I don't faze that easily. - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2004 5:56:12 AM
      - I'm still interested - Davin L. - 3/22/2004 6:10:16 AM
  - Doesn't concern you that those guys are undoubtedly telling the truth? - Bowser - 3/22/2004 5:30:32 AM
    - re: Or, to be more accurate, "those two guys." - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2004 5:40:45 AM

Religion of Peace in the news. - Bowser - 3/20/2004 9:24:53 PM
- re: Religion of Peace in the news. - Davin L. - 3/22/2004 4:11:56 AM
- French are on the Islamists' hit list due to the new law in France - m - 3/20/2004 10:27:46 PM
  - The worldwide long term results of poorly designed guest worker programs and unenforced immigration laws - ebnelson - 3/21/2004 2:08:11 PM

Israel finally killed Hamas' 'spiritual' leader? - Justin - 3/22/2004 4:02:55 AM

And, der protesters come from der voodvork out... - Tom Brosz - 3/21/2004 12:14:06 AM
- And they keep coming... - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2004 12:00:38 AM
  - Ever wonder why? - Bowser - 3/22/2004 1:48:24 AM
    - I was talking about the pictures, which you obviously paid no attention to. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2004 2:04:48 AM
      - Yer right. Those are over the top, and down the backside. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/22/2004 3:01:55 AM
- re: And, der protesters come from der voodvork out... - ebnelson - 3/21/2004 12:34:20 PM
  - re: The President's famous words - Raoul Lannoy - 3/21/2004 10:32:07 PM
  - Look, you closed minded moron - R.L. - 3/21/2004 9:35:17 PM
    - Heh, heh. A couple of words to the wise. - Bowser - 3/22/2004 1:59:04 AM
- I just have to ask. - Lee - 3/21/2004 3:44:34 AM
  - They don't care - ebnelson - 3/21/2004 12:35:59 PM

Charges Dropped Against Chaplain . . . - D. Spires - 3/20/2004 4:35:16 PM
- Translation - R.L. - 3/20/2004 6:40:55 PM
  - re: A more accurate translation here, Robert . . . - D. Spires - 3/20/2004 7:52:12 PM
    - The ego of organizations - R.L. - 3/21/2004 8:24:52 PM
    - Sincere apologies to a wrongly accused Muslim chaplin (n/t) - phil - 3/21/2004 1:40:24 AM
      - Too late, phil - R.L. - 3/21/2004 10:52:34 PM
        
        The old parable about the bigot, the lynch mob and the dead guy. - Bowser - 3/21/2004 11:25:11 PM
    - re: Like the Katharine Gun case in UK - Raoul - 3/20/2004 8:50:38 PM

"It's something that's eating away at the credibility of the administration in an election year - Bowser - 3/20/2004 6:57:16 PM
- re: election year - Tom Brosz - 3/20/2004 7:07:55 PM
  - Hiding, lying about the cost, doesn't bother you? - Bowser - 3/20/2004 7:38:53 PM
    - Lies - RobVG - 3/20/2004 8:40:38 PM
      - That's interesting. Fascinating. Ya done good. Now, did you read the post, or - - - - Bowser - 3/20/2004 9:38:31 PM
        
        Crap - RobVG - 3/20/2004 11:05:02 PM
        
        More - RobVG - 3/21/2004 7:19:21 PM
        
        re: More - Bowser - 3/21/2004 9:48:49 PM
    - Of course it bothers me. - Tom Brosz - 3/20/2004 8:06:19 PM
      - Focus. Concentrate. - Bowser - 3/20/2004 9:32:27 PM

GuantÃ¡namo Detainees Deliver Intelligence Gains . . . - D. Spires - 3/21/2004 8:14:05 PM

Two Split Reward in D.C.-Area Sniper Case . . . - D. Spires - 3/21/2004 8:03:56 PM

CO2 levels hit peak at Hawaii observatory - Bowser - 3/21/2004 4:14:39 PM

Bush death count hits 573 - Donald - 3/21/2004 3:49:16 PM

Kitty Kelley book on the Bushes coming in September - Odin - 2/24/2004 5:01:56 AM
- Brain Fart about Kitty and George - Michael Strickland - 3/21/2004 6:30:50 AM
- Only one of many - Tom Brosz - 2/24/2004 6:57:56 AM

A small note on media bias - Tom Brosz - 3/20/2004 6:22:35 AM
- re: A little more on this... - Tom Brosz - 3/21/2004 1:13:54 AM
- Oh, whine! - Bowser - 3/20/2004 8:35:01 AM
- re: A small note on media bias - Tom Brosz - 3/20/2004 6:52:53 AM
- Then there's Maureen Dowd... - Tom Brosz - 3/20/2004 6:40:45 AM
  - Sounds like a man for all seasons - FrankC - 3/20/2004 7:43:01 AM
- Oh, he never falls - FrankC - 3/20/2004 6:34:37 AM
  - Seeing as how that Secret Service "SOB"... - Larry J - 3/20/2004 3:53:01 PM
  - Ah, the arrogant elitist MA residents know well - phil - 3/20/2004 3:24:47 PM

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