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For Tom, Ed and FrankC............. - Lindy - 3/20/2004 9:13:08 AM
- For anyone interested in accuracy - Tom Brosz - 3/20/2004 7:36:23 PM
  - Who dat? (Hint - Not T. B.) - Bowser - 3/20/2004 8:04:20 PM
    - That was a bit strong. Please disregard the "Hint - not T. B.") - Bowser - 3/20/2004 9:34:49 PM
      - Don't worry about it. Haven't exactly been Miss Manners myself lately. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/20/2004 11:02:47 PM
- The left claimed that under the sanctions millions of Iraqi babies were dying and thousands starving - ebnelson - 3/20/2004 12:34:54 PM
  - YOU miss the point entirely! - Lindy - 3/20/2004 6:47:00 PM
    - Maybe I do - ebnelson - 3/21/2004 1:00:39 AM

U.S. Army Charges Six Soldiers for Cruelty in Iraq . . . - D. Spires - 3/20/2004 10:36:47 PM

Report: Spaniard Led Moroccans to Dynamite . . . - D. Spires - 3/20/2004 10:15:45 PM

New York Hospital Is Ordered to Release Abortion Records . . . - D. Spires - 3/20/2004 4:47:33 PM
- More - RobVG - 3/20/2004 5:35:11 PM
  - re: More - Tom Brosz - 3/20/2004 7:01:37 PM
    - Controversial: Not if you look at it as data collection. - Mary Anne - 3/20/2004 9:52:17 PM

Quagmire - Donald - 3/18/2004 3:17:11 AM
- Quagmire? See Vietnam - Mark Eby - 3/20/2004 8:24:58 PM
- The poll is interesting - Tom Brosz - 3/18/2004 3:40:00 AM
- The first two don't make a quagmire, but the encouragement to AQ in item 3 is helping a lot. (n/t) - ebnelson - 3/18/2004 3:30:33 AM
  - For most of us the Sun comes up in the East. - Bowser - 3/18/2004 3:46:46 AM
    - Defining "quagmire" - Tom Brosz - 3/18/2004 4:30:17 AM
      - It started on May 1, 2003: GWB declared major hostilities over. - Bowser - 3/18/2004 4:48:26 AM
        
        Would this qualify? - Tom Brosz - 3/18/2004 6:58:05 AM
        
        There you go again. - Bowser - 3/18/2004 3:16:46 PM
        
        Quagmire..... - Publius - 3/18/2004 5:25:52 PM
        
        Yep, there you go again. - Larry J - 3/18/2004 4:34:37 PM
        
        Not worth the effort, Larry. - Tom Brosz - 3/19/2004 1:55:47 AM
        
        You blew it. - Bowser - 3/19/2004 6:14:07 AM
        
        "Thou shalt not worship false dogs" (n/t) - RobVG - 3/19/2004 6:44:50 AM
        
        Focus, man. Do yourself a favor. - Bowser - 3/19/2004 6:49:25 AM
        
        I'm gonna have to be like a mother bird with a worm. - Bowser - 3/18/2004 5:05:53 PM
        
        So, you admit you were lying. That's a good start. - Larry J - 3/18/2004 6:48:16 PM
        
        You sound like Clinton - Davin L. - 3/19/2004 4:49:36 AM
        
        I just don't follow you. And calm down, for crying out loud. - Bowser - 3/18/2004 7:08:45 PM
        
        No! Not Fleischer lying too! Fire him!! ;-) (n/t) - Tony - 3/18/2004 7:26:18 PM
        
        Can't - gbaikie - 3/19/2004 8:26:22 AM
        
        D'OH! - Tony - 3/19/2004 4:47:52 PM
        
        re: D'OH! - gbaikie - 3/20/2004 12:35:13 AM

Bob Zangas - Raoul - 3/20/2004 7:30:53 PM
- re: Bob Zangas - Tom Brosz - 3/20/2004 7:52:45 PM
- Tragic! (n/t) - Bowser - 3/20/2004 7:45:27 PM

Polling shows recent shift towards George Bush, away from Jacques Kerry - from Realclearpolitics - 3/20/2004 5:40:24 AM
- Bush up in 6 by 22, Kerry up in 9 by 41. Where's the shift? (n/t) - Bowser - 3/20/2004 5:12:01 PM
  - It is here - FrankC - 3/20/2004 7:12:27 PM
    - Hmmm. Boggles this mind, anyway. I'll take your word for it. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/20/2004 7:19:22 PM
- How can this be? - FrankC - 3/20/2004 6:25:19 AM
  - To know Kerry is to dislike Kerry (n/t) - ebnelson - 3/20/2004 12:37:21 PM

NATO Expanding Kosovo Forces to Combat Violence . . . - D. Spires - 3/19/2004 5:15:51 PM
- A many year Quagmire... (n/t) - phil - 3/20/2004 3:27:53 PM
  - And how long has Bush been President? - Bowser - 3/20/2004 7:14:21 PM

Seeking Top Qaeda Figure, Pakistanis Battle Militants . . . - D. Spires - 3/20/2004 4:29:02 PM
- Pakistan: 100 Fighters Captured . . . - D. Spires - 3/20/2004 5:20:30 PM

Pollution Dispute in Northwest Straddles the Border . . . - D. Spires - 3/20/2004 4:42:55 PM

Appeasing? - Bowser - 3/19/2004 2:48:57 PM
- Compare and contrast - Fox - 3/19/2004 4:30:40 PM
- re: Absolutely . . . - D. Spires - 3/19/2004 4:29:57 PM
  - Isn't it funny how conservatives are allowed to criticize the will of the people... - alcaray - 3/19/2004 5:12:03 PM
    - Have it your way. - Tom Brosz - 3/19/2004 5:58:38 PM
      - re: the UN and Spain - Raoul - 3/19/2004 11:38:06 PM
        
        re: the UN and Spain - Tom Brosz - 3/20/2004 1:17:30 AM
        
        re: But - Raoul - 3/20/2004 4:37:55 PM
      - Spanards are trying to have it their way... - McFly - 3/19/2004 9:19:04 PM
      - Events are supposed to sway votes. What else should? - alcaray - 3/19/2004 6:19:23 PM
        
        I should bookmark that in case bin Laden is caught in October. ;) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/19/2004 6:23:45 PM
        
        You won't catch me claiming otherwise (n/t) - alcaray - 3/19/2004 6:35:55 PM
    - re: Isn't it funny how conservatives are allowed to criticize the will of the people... - Bowser - 3/19/2004 5:33:29 PM
      - I see your point but... - RobVG - 3/19/2004 6:01:36 PM
        
        The vote is the vote is the vote - alcaray - 3/19/2004 6:16:32 PM
        
        Jeepers. Where were you in 2000? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/19/2004 6:19:56 PM
        
        Trying to puzzle out who wasn't permitted to vote. (n/t) - alcaray - 3/19/2004 6:37:17 PM
        
        Meant for alcaray. (n/t) - RobVG - 3/19/2004 6:02:59 PM
    - re: Isn't it funnier . . . - D. Spires - 3/19/2004 5:31:55 PM
      - I apologize if my use of the word "allowed" was confusing - alcaray - 3/19/2004 6:12:25 PM
        
        re: I don't think the "vote", per se, should have gone anywhere . . . - D. Spires - 3/19/2004 6:33:34 PM
        
        We agree completely, on what you said (n/t) - alcaray - 3/19/2004 6:39:07 PM

Taiwan's Leader and Deputy Are Shot on Election Eve . . . - D. Spires - 3/20/2004 4:23:20 PM

Hussein's Fall Leads Syrians to Test Government Limits . . . - D. Spires - 3/20/2004 4:17:37 PM

Terry Waite - Raoul - 3/8/2004 10:27:05 PM
- re: Terry Waite - gbaikie - 3/8/2004 11:44:58 PM
  - Terry Waite - Publius - 3/9/2004 3:13:13 AM
    - re: Terry Waite - gbaikie - 3/9/2004 6:38:52 AM
- Oh, did he spend his days watching movies and going to class, too? - Larry J - 3/8/2004 11:02:59 PM
  - I'm glad the 14-year-old had a broadening experience. - Mary Anne - 3/9/2004 5:17:16 PM
  - The kid is now 14 years old. An eighth-grader. And that's now. - Bowser - 3/9/2004 3:31:30 PM
    - Much difference? - Tom Brosz - 3/9/2004 7:01:27 PM
      - The Ultimate Argument - "You're full of shit!!" - Bowser - 3/9/2004 8:52:56 PM
        
        re: The Ultimate Argument - "You're full of shit!!" - Jack Paladin - 3/20/2004 3:05:22 PM
        
        ROTFLMAO - Lindy - 3/9/2004 11:44:19 PM
        
        I don't know, Lindy. - Bowser - 3/10/2004 12:43:21 AM
        
        You ought to write for Jay Leno..... - Lindy - 3/10/2004 5:18:13 AM

Colin Powell reassures India - don't worry about job loss. - Bowser - 3/18/2004 12:58:07 AM
- heh heh. . . - Justin Kelly - 3/18/2004 1:09:25 PM
  - Oh, do you really expect me to believe - Davin L. - 3/18/2004 4:37:05 PM
    - 'many steps that can be taken' how about an obvious one? - Justin Kelly - 3/19/2004 1:17:19 AM
      - BTW: I named two obvious steps... Plus some empirical observations about globalism. - Davin L. - 3/19/2004 5:03:23 PM
      - Wow. I don't think you heard anything I said. Complete disconnect - Davin L. - 3/19/2004 4:05:56 AM
      - Uh, Justin, excuse me a second - Robert - 3/19/2004 2:23:29 AM
        
        on a serious note. . . - Justin Kelly - 3/19/2004 8:14:57 AM
        
        re: Uh, Justin, excuse me a second - Justin Kelly - 3/19/2004 3:12:35 AM
        
        You've been hanging out at the wrong bars (n/t) - alcaray - 3/19/2004 3:08:43 PM
        
        I didn't hang out at bars in the US (n/t) - Justin Kelly - 3/20/2004 2:11:13 PM
    - a question - SDG - 3/18/2004 10:34:49 PM
  - Well, I'm sorry. - Bowser - 3/18/2004 3:27:42 PM
  - great post, J (n/t) - phil - 3/18/2004 1:16:48 PM
    - Thanks P ;-) (n/t) - Justin - 3/19/2004 3:17:55 AM
- re: don't worry about job loss. - Tom Brosz - 3/18/2004 1:07:45 AM
  - 10 percent? - McFly - 3/19/2004 2:52:05 PM
  - re: don't worry about job loss. - McFly - 3/18/2004 4:56:18 AM
    - Lest anyone get the wrong idea - McFly - 3/18/2004 4:56:03 PM
      - I'm impressed McFly...... - Lindy - 3/18/2004 7:58:27 PM
    - Regulations - Tom Brosz - 3/18/2004 6:44:29 AM
      - Horrors... - McFly - 3/18/2004 2:20:20 PM
        
        re: Horrors... - Tom Brosz - 3/19/2004 2:07:39 AM
  - Only "10 percent". Just "10 percent". Merely "10 percent". (n/t) - Bowser - 3/18/2004 4:50:05 AM
  - Outsourcing is a minor threat; the real 'culprit' is productvity - m - 3/18/2004 2:37:08 AM
    - Lemme see if I get this... - McFly - 3/18/2004 5:26:51 AM
      - Yeah, great post! - Justin Kelly - 3/19/2004 1:54:55 AM
        
        And furthermore. . . - Justin Kelly - 3/19/2004 2:11:11 AM
        
        re: And furthermore. . . - RobVG - 3/19/2004 5:54:30 AM
      - That is a GREAT point. - Bowser - 3/18/2004 6:03:59 PM
      - Nope - Larry J - 3/18/2004 2:21:27 PM
        
        re: Nope - Tom Brosz - 3/19/2004 2:11:27 AM
        
        Myth - Bowser - 3/18/2004 3:33:22 PM
        
        Drug companies will never stop R&D, though they may threaten to do so. - Mary Anne - 3/18/2004 3:12:44 PM
        
        If they can't recoup their investment, then they'll have no choice - Larry J - 3/18/2004 4:15:32 PM
        
        Maybe they should outsource R&D to India? (n/t) - Robert - 3/18/2004 11:21:04 PM
        
        I still say let's start offshoring CEO and COO jobs... - McFly - 3/19/2004 1:59:02 AM
        
        How about this? - Robert - 3/19/2004 2:16:53 AM
        
        'outsourcing CEO Pay' - I'm all for it, They are subject to the free market as well. (n/t) - Justin Kelly - 3/19/2004 3:16:06 AM
        
        Sure! . . . and whose fault would that be? (n/t) - Justin Kelly - 3/19/2004 1:33:06 AM
        
        Why not recoup their (relatively small) investments from Canada? And Mexico? (n/t) - Bowser - 3/18/2004 6:11:41 PM
        
        myths about drug companies - Davin L. - 3/18/2004 4:48:55 PM
        
        Without new product, they will be left with expired patents and competition with generics. Period. - Mary Anne - 3/18/2004 4:43:11 PM
        
        re: Without new product - Tom Brosz - 3/19/2004 2:24:34 AM
        
        When the small-plane industry lowers blood pressure for millions and annihilates cancer cells without surgery, let me know. - Mary Anne - 3/19/2004 7:11:25 PM
        
        Some reforms are needed - Tom Brosz - 3/20/2004 1:47:11 AM

NYT OP-ED Rumsfeld compares Iraq, Korea, Germany, Japan and Italy - Bowser - 3/19/2004 5:47:31 PM
- re: Rumsfeld - Raoul - 3/19/2004 9:16:43 PM
  - So help me, cross my heart and hope to die - - - - Bowser - 3/20/2004 2:24:04 AM

2 Marines Killed on Patrol in Iraq - and this isn't a quagmire? - Bowser - 3/19/2004 8:19:49 PM
- Uh...Bowser, "Deathwatch Beetle" is Donald's job around here. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/19/2004 11:27:41 PM
  - He sees the big picture. I'm just trying to understand "quagmire". (n/t) - Bowser - 3/20/2004 12:25:29 AM
    - re: I'm just trying to understand "quagmire". - Tom Brosz - 3/20/2004 12:41:40 AM
      - Expectations v. realities. - Bowser - 3/20/2004 1:49:18 AM

Religion of Peace in the news - phil - 3/19/2004 7:03:24 PM
- And Bush is Christian, Sharon Jewish. What's your point? (n/t) - Arf - 3/19/2004 8:21:23 PM

Addressing the Unthinkable, U.S. Revives Study of Fallout . . . - D. Spires - 3/19/2004 5:08:51 PM
- re: Addressing the Unthinkable - Tom Brosz - 3/19/2004 5:41:41 PM
  - re: An interesting choice of words for the Times, I think . . . - D. Spires - 3/19/2004 6:40:28 PM

U.S. Says Hussein Loyalists No Longer Dominate - Bowser - 3/19/2004 2:18:34 PM
- re: U.S. Says Hussein Loyalists No Longer Dominate - Tom Brosz - 3/19/2004 6:17:02 PM
  - BTW - Tom Brosz - 3/19/2004 6:29:19 PM
- Interesting stuff here - alcaray - 3/19/2004 4:23:45 PM

Shell Withheld Reserves Data to Aid Nigeria . . . - D. Spires - 3/19/2004 5:22:54 PM

Pakistanis Pound Suspected al Qaeda Fighters . . . - D. Spires - 3/19/2004 5:01:29 PM

Second Arabiya Journalist Dies After U.S. Shooting . . . - D. Spires - 3/19/2004 4:51:00 PM

We've been lured - Raoul - 3/18/2004 5:13:16 PM
- Axis of Appeasement . . . - D. Spires - 3/18/2004 9:27:31 PM
  - re: Appeasement ? - Raoul - 3/18/2004 10:15:24 PM
    - re: So . . . - D. Spires - 3/18/2004 10:33:06 PM
      - re: So . . . - Raoul - 3/19/2004 6:43:40 AM
        
        re: No . . . - D. Spires - 3/19/2004 4:24:34 PM
        
        Observation - Bowser - 3/19/2004 2:55:23 PM
- The Polish guy said, "taken for a ride". (n/t) - Bowser - 3/18/2004 8:31:39 PM
- Domino effect (n/t) - RobVG - 3/18/2004 6:32:28 PM
- And suckered, snookered, bamboozled, duped, betrayed, hoodwinked, tricked. And bribed. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/18/2004 6:09:51 PM

Terrorist Brigade Issues Eerie Warning to U.S., Other Countries . . . - D. Spires - 3/18/2004 8:49:28 PM
- Spain blinked - ebnelson - 3/19/2004 1:40:32 PM
- Terrorist Attack on UK 'Imminent', Warns al-Qaeda . . . - D. Spires - 3/18/2004 9:20:47 PM
  - Death Brigade operations in Spain had been suspended following the elected government's revised approach to Iraq. - Lindy - 3/18/2004 10:04:50 PM
    - Do you suggest appeasement or surrender? - ebnelson - 3/19/2004 1:35:56 PM

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