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The White House worked to reassure its nervous European partners - Bowser - 3/19/2004 7:02:04 AM

Off the Mark on Cost of War, Reception by Iraqis - Bowser - 3/19/2004 6:58:18 AM

Breaking News from Pakistan. 'High-Value Target' Surrounded in Pakistan - REB - 3/18/2004 7:03:04 PM
- I'd wait a while to see how this comes out. A lot of noise being generated right now from Pakistan. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/19/2004 1:41:32 AM
- Too early for ObL; wait until October (n/t) - Robert - 3/18/2004 11:03:53 PM
- John Kerry is in Pakistan??? (n/t) - a confused p - 3/18/2004 10:10:19 PM
  - LOL (n/t) - Buck Galaxy - 3/19/2004 1:31:43 AM
- from CNN:"officials believe the surrounded figure is Osama bin Laden's deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri" - Tony - 3/18/2004 7:21:53 PM
  - Chechens (Not chickens, Bowser) - REB - 3/18/2004 7:53:21 PM
    - Chechens, chickens, they look to mean to mess with. Thanks for the warning! (n/t) - Bowser - 3/19/2004 6:45:18 AM
      - An if that be appeasement, I be a peaser! (n/t) - Bowser - 3/19/2004 6:46:45 AM
  - re: from CNN:"officials believe the surrounded figure is Osama bin Laden's deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri" - REB - 3/18/2004 7:37:18 PM

Seoul reconsiders Iraq deployment - Bowser - 3/19/2004 6:02:27 AM

237 GWB & Co. lies - "Iraq on the Record" - Bowser - 3/17/2004 9:19:45 PM
- re-do that link, B, I wanna read it. (n/t) - Davin L. - 3/17/2004 9:24:22 PM
  - re: re-do that link, B, I wanna read it. - Bowser - 3/17/2004 9:33:26 PM
    - Robert, Justin- now THATS what we need! (n/t) - Davin L. - 3/17/2004 10:19:34 PM
    - Nice. - Tony - 3/17/2004 9:54:44 PM
      - "Special Investigations Division" - Bowser - 3/17/2004 10:24:13 PM
      - mining the database for Imminent/immediate/grave - Davin L. - 3/17/2004 10:18:11 PM
        
        re: mining the database - Tom Brosz - 3/17/2004 10:26:49 PM
        
        So basically you are saying: - Davin L. - 3/17/2004 10:45:06 PM
        
        re: So basically you are saying: - Tom Brosz - 3/17/2004 11:16:39 PM
        
        re: So basically you are saying: - Davin L. - 3/18/2004 4:25:09 PM
        
        Lie: 1. an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker to be untrue with intent to deceive - Larry J - 3/18/2004 7:02:31 PM
        
        re: Lie: 1. an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker to be untrue with intent to deceive - Davin L. - 3/19/2004 4:14:54 AM
        
        To make it slightly more accurate....? - Tony - 3/18/2004 3:21:20 PM
        
        re: So basically you are saying: - REB - 3/18/2004 2:38:36 PM
        
        re: So basically you are saying: - Davin L. - 3/18/2004 4:12:12 PM
        
        Nope - REB - 3/18/2004 6:24:52 PM
        
        re: Nope - Davin L. - 3/19/2004 4:11:18 AM
        
        Silly. - Bowser - 3/17/2004 10:42:01 PM
        
        If you're going to try analogies, make them accurate. - Tom Brosz - 3/17/2004 11:27:31 PM
        
        He wasn't a nice guy. - Bowser - 3/17/2004 11:44:00 PM
        
        That is an understatement. - REB - 3/18/2004 2:35:42 PM
        
        Back to basics. - Bowser - 3/18/2004 4:20:33 PM
        
        re: Back to basics. - REB - 3/18/2004 6:21:50 PM
        
        Huh! Apparently you're right on the numbers. - Bowser - 3/18/2004 6:28:50 PM
        
        re: Huh! Apparently you're right on the numbers. - REB - 3/18/2004 7:09:41 PM
        
        funny that you should criticize anyone concerning 'analogies' drawn - Davin L. - 3/17/2004 11:31:21 PM
        
        Can you be more specific? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/18/2004 1:12:06 AM
        
        how could I be more specific? - Davin L. - 3/18/2004 8:11:25 AM
        
        link didnt work? (n/t) - alcaray - 3/18/2004 5:46:47 PM
        
        Why ruin a streak (n/t) - gbaikie - 3/18/2004 7:18:07 AM
        
        nonsensical non-sequiters again? - Davin L. - 3/18/2004 7:58:27 AM
        
        Not at all. - alcaray - 3/17/2004 11:14:50 PM
        
        And anyway - alcaray - 3/17/2004 11:20:46 PM
        
        My only problem with what you said is that it's correct. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/17/2004 11:25:41 PM

Of course not!! "Scalia Won't Remove Self From Cheney Case" - Bowser - 3/18/2004 4:35:55 PM
- In this battle of wills, I dislike both parties... - Mary Anne - 3/18/2004 5:08:52 PM
  - As long as we're consistent - Larry J - 3/18/2004 6:35:47 PM
    - Not exactly ignored by the media - Tony - 3/18/2004 7:14:59 PM
      - Compare the relative amount of coverage between the two - Larry J - 3/18/2004 8:43:02 PM
        
        I agree that Ginsberg, too should recuse herself in those cases. - Mary Anne - 3/19/2004 1:02:26 AM

Tipster Talks About Ohio Sniper Suspect . . . - D. Spires - 3/18/2004 8:43:02 PM

Greek Olympic Games Head Into Crisis . . . - D. Spires - 3/18/2004 8:35:29 PM

I'll agree: Iraq was about the oil - phil - 3/16/2004 9:57:48 PM
- France and dictatorships - Larry J - 3/17/2004 5:22:16 PM
  - Marcos, Shah, Sadaam, Duvalier, Fahd, Musharraf..... - Tony - 3/17/2004 6:59:10 PM
    - Fortunately, you see a lot less of that today than in years past - Larry J - 3/17/2004 7:50:57 PM
      - And BTW, agree that there is a lot less of it about....... - Tony - 3/17/2004 10:04:06 PM
      - As I've stated before - Tony - 3/17/2004 9:07:38 PM
  - Bush and Pakistan (n/t) - Bowser - 3/17/2004 6:28:14 PM
    - FDR, Churchill, and Stalin - Larry J - 3/18/2004 12:59:41 AM
      - Then tell your guy something. Tell him to shut the hell up. - Bowser - 3/18/2004 3:09:16 AM
        
        And while we're talking about Pakistan... - Larry J - 3/18/2004 7:11:37 PM
        
        Rather rude, even for you - Larry J - 3/18/2004 2:59:27 PM
- re: Total Fina Elf - Raoul - 3/16/2004 10:15:38 PM
- NO!! Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2! And now you??!! (n/t) - Bowser - 3/16/2004 10:05:36 PM
  - What? No Ford? (n/t) - phil - 3/16/2004 10:23:36 PM
    - I'm not aware of any big ones for him - or Carter. - Bowser - 3/16/2004 10:40:53 PM

Dominoes - Tom Brosz - 2/5/2004 6:03:39 AM
- Do you want to take credit for the weather as well? - Greg - 2/5/2004 7:20:22 AM
  - re: credit - Tom Brosz - 2/5/2004 5:46:15 PM
    - re: credit - Greg - 2/6/2004 3:39:46 AM
      - re: credit - Tom Brosz - 2/6/2004 5:27:55 AM
        
        nothing to duck - Greg - 2/6/2004 5:57:59 AM
        
        re: nothing to duck - Tom Brosz - 2/6/2004 6:52:41 AM
        
        Are you two playing Devil's advocate for the sake of it? - Tony - 2/6/2004 3:21:07 PM
        
        Rational people - Tom Brosz - 2/6/2004 8:00:10 PM
        
        re: Rational people - jjhjkhkj - 3/18/2004 6:48:23 PM
        
        Ditto on the right and lack of effect of sanctions.... (n/t) - Tony - 2/6/2004 9:55:48 PM
        
        Oh really? - Greg - 2/6/2004 7:13:14 AM
        
        I wasn't blaming sanctions on any one administration. I said they didn't work. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 2/6/2004 7:26:33 AM
  - It si that Bush is cracking down on terror effectively, after we were attacked cowardly at home - ebnelson - 2/5/2004 12:57:27 PM
    - When the battleship USS New Jersey was offshore lobbing shells from her 16" guns into villages around Lebanon, was that "cowardly," too? Just wondering. (n/t) - Odin - 2/6/2004 7:30:00 AM
      - ??? You are comparing that with 9/11? (NT) - REB - 2/6/2004 1:50:25 PM
- We only had to kick in the front door for the whole rotten edifice to come tumbling down. (n/t) - Lee - 2/5/2004 7:08:44 AM

USS Clueless - David F Mayer - 3/18/2004 2:00:08 AM
- DenBeste writes a great blog - phil - 3/18/2004 1:13:36 PM

Al Qaeda to give Spain another chance. - Tom Brosz - 3/18/2004 2:15:44 AM
- Next on the agenda, restore the Caliphate (n/t) - phil - 3/18/2004 1:11:58 PM
- Until they change their mind (n/t) - ebnelson - 3/18/2004 3:32:52 AM

clinton's top General weighs in on war against Iraq - ebnelson - 3/18/2004 3:29:30 AM
- A good soldier. - Bowser - 3/18/2004 4:32:55 AM
  - A good American. - Lee. - 3/18/2004 6:41:16 AM

NBC News: "Osama bin Laden: Missed Opportunities" - Larry J - 3/17/2004 1:24:50 AM
- An important factor to remember - Tom Brosz - 3/17/2004 5:31:51 PM
  - re: An important factor to remember - Larry J - 3/17/2004 5:52:37 PM
    - re: An important factor to remember - gbaikie - 3/17/2004 8:04:09 PM
      - re: An important factor to remember - Larry J - 3/18/2004 12:53:05 AM
        
        re: An important factor to remember - gbaikie - 3/18/2004 4:12:59 AM
- Hindsight is always 20/20. - Mary Anne - 3/17/2004 1:01:27 PM
  - re: Hindsight is always 20/20. - Tom Brosz - 3/17/2004 5:26:09 PM
  - re: Hindsight is always 20/20. - REB - 3/17/2004 2:30:35 PM
  - Then why the rewrite of history by the left? (n/t) - ebnelson - 3/17/2004 2:30:28 PM
  - re: Hindsight is always 20/20. - Larry J - 3/17/2004 2:29:54 PM
- Hey! You can't post that! (long) - mclute - 3/17/2004 3:49:18 AM
  - And another thing - FrankC - 3/17/2004 4:13:48 AM

How we are handling Pakistan - Tom Brosz - 3/17/2004 5:28:13 AM
- Are you referring to the effort to catch OBL? - Bowser - 3/17/2004 7:54:38 PM
  - re: Are you referring to the effort to catch OBL? - Tom Brosz - 3/17/2004 10:14:09 PM
    - Perfectionism: The Liberal Disease - David F Mayer - 3/17/2004 11:14:50 PM
      - Who's the guy who said you're either good or evil? - Bowser - 3/18/2004 1:04:23 AM
        
        re: Who's the guy who said you're either good or evil? - Tom Brosz - 3/18/2004 1:18:45 AM
        
        GEORGE WALKER BUSH fer crissake!!! (Incapable of a straight answer!) (n/t) - Bowser - 3/18/2004 1:30:12 AM

Chairman of the JCS: "We've been wrong on every count" - Bowser - 2/21/2004 11:34:10 PM
- So was occupying Germany or Japan a failure? - ebnelson - 2/22/2004 12:29:29 AM
  - Of Japan, Germany and the United States, who struck the first blows in WWII? - Mary Anne - 2/22/2004 3:36:21 PM
    - The Chairman was referring to Iraq - eb didn't pick that up. (n/t) - Bowser - 2/22/2004 4:36:44 PM
      - Whooosh! over your head - ebnelson - 2/23/2004 12:50:54 AM
    - Iraq struck the first blow, but the topic is occupaiton, not beginnings - ebnelson - 2/22/2004 3:57:30 PM
      - Why should I allow you to define history so narrowly? - Mary Anne - 2/22/2004 4:39:36 PM
        
        re: Why should I allow you to define history so narrowly? - gbaikie - 2/23/2004 9:32:46 AM
        
        re: Why should I allow you to define history so narrowly? - gbaikie - 2/23/2004 9:32:33 AM
        
        Why should you READ the poor guy? - Bowser - 2/22/2004 7:13:24 PM
        
        You are seeking the narrow definition of nation state behavior as the equivalent of personal - ebnelson - 2/22/2004 7:08:39 PM
  - National security involves WAR. War is not nice. Anything that is not nice is rejected by the left. - David F Mayer - 2/22/2004 1:53:26 AM
    - actually,........... - Publius - 2/22/2004 4:36:13 PM
    - von Clauswitz - Mary Anne - 2/22/2004 3:30:55 PM
      - One of Jesus' most eggregious errors - David F Mayer - 2/22/2004 5:32:51 PM
        
        LOL. According to the President's religion, Jesus made no errors. - Mary Anne - 2/22/2004 5:48:44 PM
        
        Sounds like Christ read the Tao. (n/t) - JMS - 2/23/2004 3:43:49 AM
        
        I don't think he ever made the trip. ;) - Mary Anne - 2/23/2004 4:02:13 AM
    - Not quite - S - 2/22/2004 3:26:09 AM
      - Diplomacy works ONLY when threat of force is behind it. - David F Mayer - 2/22/2004 3:57:25 AM
        
        Threats of force are a violation of international law - S - 2/22/2004 4:42:27 AM
        
        At least admit you are a hypocrite - ebnelson - 2/22/2004 4:01:35 PM
        
        re: Threats of force are a violation of international law - David F Mayer - 2/22/2004 5:01:19 AM
        
        re: Threats of force are a violation of international law - Mick - 3/18/2004 12:57:41 AM
        
        re: violation of international law - Tom Brosz - 2/22/2004 5:31:42 AM
        
        One good way to get on the bad side of the UN. - Bowser - 2/22/2004 5:55:31 PM
        
        Let me try this a little more slowly... - Tom Brosz - 2/22/2004 9:55:58 PM

Terrorist plans for Spain - Tom Brosz - 3/16/2004 5:52:17 AM
- And excuse the DODs blatant lie, and the fraudulent news put out by GWB. It's "politics", I suppose. - Bowser - 3/16/2004 6:42:44 PM
- Oh, Tom. What you have to do to your mind. - Bowser - 3/16/2004 6:40:08 PM
  - Well, for starters, I use it. - Tom Brosz - 3/16/2004 10:28:50 PM
    - I wish. It just seems to roll down the ol' Party Line, regardless of facts. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/17/2004 4:50:06 AM
- re: Al Qaeda won the minute the US decided to invade Iraq - Raoul - 3/16/2004 6:47:10 AM
  - Looks to me that in a fight where there are only losers, they've already won. - Bowser - 3/16/2004 4:36:46 PM
  - And how long will that be? - FrankC - 3/16/2004 4:18:01 PM
    - re: And how long will that be? - Tom Brosz - 3/16/2004 5:03:29 PM
      - exactly - FrankC - 3/16/2004 5:27:48 PM
- It worked, for now. However, the terrorists have a habit of overplaying their hands. - David F Mayer - 3/16/2004 6:13:19 AM
  - I'm curious - what's this "habit of overplaying their hands"? - Bowser - 3/16/2004 4:18:29 PM
  - I don't think Al Qaeda is that stupid - Gary - 3/16/2004 7:05:12 AM
    - Yes, I think that Al Qaeda IS that stupid. - David F Mayer - 3/17/2004 11:22:51 PM
    - re: I don't think Al Qaeda is that stupid - RobVG - 3/16/2004 5:08:19 PM

hey, its going platinum! - Davin L. - 3/17/2004 7:34:12 PM
- Anybody remember how "Moveon.org" got their name? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/17/2004 10:03:38 PM
- Grim. (I think they'll still excuse it, somehow.) (n/t) - Bowser - 3/17/2004 7:48:34 PM

Economics - Tom Brosz - 3/16/2004 12:10:51 AM
- re: Economics, Part 2 - Tom Brosz - 3/17/2004 4:05:04 AM
- re: Economics - Odin - 3/16/2004 7:57:59 AM
  - "Last I heard..." - Tom Brosz - 3/17/2004 4:11:51 AM
    - Oops! I musta heard wrong. Good catch. Thanks. (n/t) - Odin - 3/17/2004 9:13:31 PM
- re: Economics - gbaikie - 3/16/2004 12:59:47 AM
  - Unemployment rates - Tom Brosz - 3/16/2004 3:17:55 AM

"I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it."--John Kerry - phil - 3/17/2004 8:59:35 PM

Vindicated Blix returns to U.S. - Bowser - 3/16/2004 6:23:47 PM
- Self vindication comes easy for Blix - ebnelson - 3/17/2004 2:34:08 PM
- Anyone here goin' to apologize for what they said about the guy? Heh, heh. - Bowser - 3/16/2004 7:08:10 PM
  - I'll board that train... - McFly - 3/16/2004 7:42:23 PM
    - "We were utterly, completely wrong. " - Lindy - 3/17/2004 5:13:50 AM
      - Just a suggestion. - NoitAll - 3/17/2004 6:53:12 PM
        
        Easier to read?? - Lindy - 3/17/2004 8:48:26 PM
    - Something else you might want to read... - Tom Brosz - 3/16/2004 11:29:18 PM
      - Thanks, will read it tonight (n/t) - McFly - 3/16/2004 11:54:27 PM
    - Might want to skip at least some of the self-flagellation - Tom Brosz - 3/16/2004 10:11:47 PM
      - "Don't believe your own propaganda........" - Lindy - 3/17/2004 5:47:03 AM
      - Constitutionally incapable. See it over and over. - Bowser - 3/16/2004 10:47:49 PM
        
        Thanks, Bowser...but you give me too much credit - McFly - 3/16/2004 11:50:47 PM

U.S. Credibility Hurt, Survey Finds - Bowser - 3/17/2004 3:03:15 AM
- re: U.S. Credibility Hurt, Survey Finds - Tom Brosz - 3/17/2004 3:58:09 AM
  - re: U.S. Credibility Hurt, Survey Finds - Raoul - 3/17/2004 7:30:33 PM
  - It's time to be effective, not noisy. - Bowser - 3/17/2004 4:33:33 AM
    - re: It's time to be effective, not noisy. - Tom Brosz - 3/17/2004 5:18:26 AM
      - Somehow that seems noisy, Tom. Certainly not effective. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/17/2004 5:58:03 PM

Rumsfeld on "Face the Nation" - flat-out, baldfaced lie, and caught. - Bowser - 3/16/2004 3:23:46 AM
- re: Rumsfeld and the voters - Tom Brosz - 3/16/2004 4:41:17 AM
  - Notice the cry of the wild republican 'buttmonkey' (toms word): - Davin L. - 3/16/2004 4:37:04 PM
    - To clarify: - Tom Brosz - 3/16/2004 6:36:34 PM
      - how does that clarify: - Davin L. - 3/16/2004 9:35:32 PM
        
        Are you even listening to yourselves? - Tom Brosz - 3/16/2004 10:50:23 PM
        
        Same post as below, but with corrected HTML (the below is not readable.. Robert, could you delete it?) - Davin L. - 3/16/2004 11:16:17 PM
        
        Tom? still waiting... (n/t) - Davin L. - 3/17/2004 6:54:28 PM
        
        Not without losing your subject line - Robert - 3/17/2004 3:50:15 AM
        
        So your saying we sound just like you...? - Davin L. - 3/16/2004 11:10:48 PM
      - You said it. We got those, AND it's GWB who is praying. - Bowser - 3/16/2004 7:05:55 PM
        
        Mr. Kerry can win without the sheep... - FrankC - 3/16/2004 7:58:39 PM
    - See my post below. Tom stopped reading a couple of lines before the event. - Bowser - 3/16/2004 5:17:58 PM
  - So far, so good. Now, just below that. The setup, the lie, the call. - Bowser - 3/16/2004 5:02:11 AM

Mount Lebanon Hotel destroyed by bomb blast in Baghdad - Tom Brosz - 3/17/2004 5:58:03 PM

Everybody seems to agree that the war in Iraq made things worse for the Iraqi People. - David F Mayer - 3/16/2004 11:19:02 PM
- From someone who was there........ - Lindy - 3/17/2004 5:26:09 PM
- Despite the skewed polling sample! - Pete S. - 3/17/2004 6:57:57 AM
  - The Shia do seem to be under repreented - FrankC - 3/17/2004 7:55:05 AM
  - re: Despite the skewed polling sample! - Tom Brosz - 3/17/2004 7:22:00 AM
- So how do terrorists "overplay their hand"? (n/t) - Bowser - 3/17/2004 2:47:28 AM
  - Most people think they already did, at least in Iraq - Tom Brosz - 3/17/2004 3:48:11 AM
    - The terrorists have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. - Bowser - 3/17/2004 4:41:13 AM
      - re: wildest dreams - Tom Brosz - 3/17/2004 5:46:34 AM
  - If you Google "terrorists overplay hand"... - FrankC - 3/17/2004 3:33:36 AM
    - I'm wondering what he meant. Not a google search, though that's what he'll do. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/17/2004 3:41:58 AM

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