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Climate of Fear - Peter Bruener - 4/12/2006 6:31:13 PM
- Discussion of this topic encouraged at the "Lair of the Conspiracy - et - 4/13/2006 1:36:00 AM
  - Lame tactics, speak of desperation. - Peter Bruener - 4/13/2006 6:34:37 AM
    - Sure, if you say so. - et - 4/13/2006 4:37:22 PM
  - re: Discussion of this topic encouraged at the "Lair of the Conspiracy - gbaikie - 4/13/2006 3:27:24 AM
- BS - R.L. - 4/12/2006 7:05:40 PM
  - re: BS - Tom Brosz - 4/13/2006 1:17:35 AM
  - Calm down RL - Peter Bruener - 4/12/2006 10:24:59 PM
    - I read it - R.L. - 4/13/2006 2:12:41 AM
      - Glad you're feeling better (n/t) - Peter Bruener - 4/13/2006 5:52:11 AM
    - No you're not, but Lindzen is.... - et - 4/13/2006 1:21:42 AM
      - And you are?............No? - Peter Bruener - 4/13/2006 5:50:21 AM
      - You perfectly illustrated the "science by peer pressure" factor. - Tom Brosz - 4/13/2006 2:50:04 AM
        
        Because the evidence, not found in the WSJ but in the atmosphere, no longer allows it as a possibility. (n/t) - et - 4/13/2006 6:10:12 PM
        
        "no longer allows it as a possibility" - Tom Brosz - 4/13/2006 7:31:15 PM
        
        The whole point of the scientific method... - et - 4/13/2006 9:20:16 PM
        
        re: The whole point of the scientific method... - Tom Brosz - 4/13/2006 9:44:48 PM
        
        "People like me" - end transmission - 4/13/2006 9:58:39 PM
      - Q.E.D. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 4/13/2006 1:24:21 AM
        
        Care to elaborate Prima Donna? (n/t) - et - 4/13/2006 1:27:30 AM
  - re: BS - gbaikie - 4/12/2006 8:08:32 PM
    - Yeah, you are qualified to evaluate what is 'bad science' - R.L. - 4/12/2006 8:13:41 PM
      - re: Yeah, you are qualified to evaluate what is 'bad science' - gbaikie - 4/12/2006 8:45:11 PM
        
        Dimming Sun on Nova PBS-TV - ljk - 4/12/2006 9:19:07 PM
        
        re: Dimming Sun on Nova PBS-TV - gbaikie - 4/12/2006 10:54:58 PM
        
        Higher Carbon Dioxide, Lack Of Nitrogen Limit Plant Growth - ljk - 4/13/2006 2:26:33 PM
        
        re: Higher Carbon Dioxide, Lack Of Nitrogen Limit Plant Growth - gbaikie - 4/13/2006 7:12:51 PM
        
        re: Higher Carbon Dioxide, Lack Of Nitrogen Limit Plant Growth - gbaikie - 4/14/2006 10:00:03 AM

40 of Britainâ€™s leading energy and climate scientists... - gbaikie - 4/11/2006 5:07:57 AM
- Nuclear efficiency - azstrummer - 4/12/2006 4:11:50 PM
  - What's the recovery time if you never build it? - Tom Brosz - 4/12/2006 5:10:37 PM
    - re: What's the recovery time if you never build it? - gbaikie - 4/12/2006 8:15:02 PM
- Touchy subject obviously - SDF - 4/12/2006 9:50:00 AM
- Nuclear power is the ONLY medium term option... - R.L. - 4/11/2006 6:09:51 AM
  - Invest in Uranium. - podrock - 4/13/2006 6:59:27 PM
    - Got any insider info? - alcaray - 4/13/2006 10:09:16 PM
      - Price of Uranium - podrock - 4/14/2006 1:28:41 AM
      - Posting specific tips in this forum might be unwise. - podrock - 4/14/2006 12:59:05 AM
  - That is because you do not know the OTHER, superior near term options. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 4/11/2006 4:56:04 PM
    - LOL oh DO tell, reverend DFM - R.L. - 4/11/2006 5:18:22 PM
  - Why solar power cannot be THE answer... - R.L. - 4/11/2006 6:13:09 AM
    - Wrong. Especially about Hawaii. Sea Solar Power could provide 1000% of Hawii's needs. - David F Mayer - 4/11/2006 4:57:43 PM
      - Did you even know what the power consumption of hawaii is when you made that statement...? - R.L. - 4/11/2006 5:55:54 PM
        
        I am talking about a natural collector system - David F Mayer - 4/11/2006 7:44:04 PM
      - Sea Solar Power could provide 1000% of Hawaii's needs. - Tom Brosz - 4/11/2006 5:42:11 PM
        
        It will work almost anywhere in the 40,000,000 square kilometers - David F Mayer - 4/11/2006 7:36:04 PM
        
        If he is talking about the thermal gradient, then that is of NO use for the vast majority of the world.... - R.L. - 4/11/2006 6:00:29 PM
        
        Wrong. Sea Solar Power can produce synthetic fuels - David F Mayer - 4/11/2006 7:37:22 PM
        
        re: If he is talking about the thermal gradient, then the technology, like fusion, has a LONG way to go..... - R.L. - 4/11/2006 6:11:23 PM
        
        Go here for the horse's mouth - Tony - 4/11/2006 6:55:49 PM
        
        Web Site is very obsolete. I know many details that are not on it. - David F Mayer - 4/11/2006 7:41:28 PM
        
        It simply does not seem viable for most of the world... - R.L. - 4/11/2006 7:36:51 PM
        
        Not when it can make synthetic fuels. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 4/11/2006 7:43:02 PM
        
        your claim was unfounded.... - R.L. - 4/11/2006 7:49:10 PM
      - :-) Yeah, we'll get right on that, David (n/t) - R.L. - 4/11/2006 5:24:48 PM
    - I agree - Tom Brosz - 4/11/2006 6:47:19 AM

Remember Kerry? - Tom Brosz - 4/13/2006 3:53:31 AM
- re: If the US had not invaded Iraq.... - Raoul - 4/13/2006 8:10:56 PM

Mims and Pianka redux - Tony - 4/11/2006 6:20:10 PM
- Yeah but how was he holding his mouth when he said it? (n/t) - FrankC - 4/12/2006 2:58:32 AM
- re: Mims and Pianka redux - Tom Brosz - 4/11/2006 8:50:50 PM
  - Give us a freakin' break, Tom - dtb - 4/12/2006 9:14:48 PM
  - "I still say Pianka falls into that class of doomsayers that is all too eager to see his predictions come true." - Tony - 4/12/2006 6:38:30 PM
    - I posted other evidence. You know what? I'm getting tired of trying to get pigs to whistle. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 4/12/2006 6:40:48 PM
      - re: I posted other evidence. You know what? I'm getting tired of trying to get pigs to whistle. - R.L. - 4/13/2006 7:18:21 PM
      - Posted other evidence..... - Tony - 4/12/2006 6:51:27 PM
- to be fair.... - R.L. - 4/11/2006 6:50:16 PM
  - Tell it to the judge ;-) (n/t) - Tony - 4/11/2006 6:52:13 PM
- Interesting.... - R.L. - 4/11/2006 6:48:02 PM
- From the Bad Astronomy Blog - ljk - 4/11/2006 6:35:30 PM

THE BUSH LEGACY: Baghdad: Where no one is safe - Donald - 4/13/2006 2:12:18 AM
- Meanwhile: 2,365 - Donald - 4/13/2006 2:13:54 AM

An Easy Way to expose concealed Anti-Americanism - gbaikie - 4/8/2006 10:12:20 AM
- Kiddo... - R.L. - 4/9/2006 4:06:44 AM
  - re: Kiddo... - gbaikie - 4/9/2006 7:14:37 AM
    - More "Wow!" - Lindy - 4/9/2006 5:04:51 PM
      - re: More "Wow!" - gbaikie - 4/9/2006 9:41:32 PM
- I am driven to tears.... - Donald - 4/8/2006 1:35:10 PM
  - The fantasy... - Tom Brosz - 4/8/2006 9:05:02 PM
    - You're in fantasy land - Donald - 4/8/2006 9:16:52 PM
      - re: You're in fantasy land - corrected - DOnald - 4/8/2006 9:20:47 PM
        
        Oh, come now. - SDAI-Tech1 - 4/9/2006 4:11:06 AM
        
        It always amazes me... - Donald - 4/9/2006 2:22:22 PM
        
        Oversimplification. - SDAI-Tech1 - 4/10/2006 12:06:58 AM
        
        "Oversimplification of foreign affairs is for spectators and partisans" - Lindy - 4/10/2006 3:22:04 AM
        
        The Russians (& EU exploiters) - SDAI-Tech1 - 4/10/2006 3:56:44 AM
        
        For what it's worth........ - Lindy - 4/12/2006 3:42:47 AM
        
        re: The Russians (& EU exploiters) - Lindy - 4/12/2006 3:34:05 AM
        
        You'll have to excuse me... - Donald - 4/8/2006 9:39:04 PM
  - How terribly kind of you................... - Publius - 4/8/2006 7:39:26 PM
    - re: How terribly kind of you................... - gbaikie - 4/8/2006 10:32:12 PM
      - "actually" no problem....................... - Publius - 4/9/2006 1:34:31 AM
        
        re: "actually" no problem....................... - gbaikie - 4/9/2006 3:00:01 AM
        
        For your questions on global warming try investigating Pascal's wager......... (n/t) - Publius - 4/9/2006 3:59:29 PM
        
        Pascal's wager is silly & shallow- you confirm my faith - gbaikie - 4/9/2006 10:18:13 PM
        
        No. Pascal's wager is pragmatic............. - Publius - 4/10/2006 6:02:26 PM
        
        re: Pascal's wager - Tom Brosz - 4/10/2006 8:39:35 PM
        
        the virtue of Pascal's wager........... - Publius - 4/11/2006 3:56:38 PM
        
        re: the virtue of Pascal's wager........... - Tom Brosz - 4/11/2006 9:30:20 PM
        
        Let me understand this............ - Publius - 4/11/2006 9:38:42 PM
        
        Kyoto is failing in those nations that accepted it. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 4/13/2006 1:21:06 AM
        
        More fantasy - Tom Brosz - 4/9/2006 4:56:09 AM
  - re: I am driven to tears.... - Eric - 4/8/2006 3:29:37 PM
    - I suspect... - Donald - 4/8/2006 3:58:38 PM
- re: An Easy Way to expose concealed Anti-Americanism - Doug Ellison - 4/8/2006 10:14:39 AM
  - re: An Easy Way to expose concealed Anti-Americanism - gbaikie - 4/8/2006 6:35:31 PM
    - America gets the 20th century....arguably the 19th too... ;-) - SDAI-Tech1 - 4/9/2006 3:39:30 AM

A Concerted Effort to Discredit Bush Critic - Donald - 4/9/2006 3:19:02 PM
- More like a concerted effort to discredit a proven liar - Larry J - 4/9/2006 9:20:01 PM
  - The proven liar is Bush - Lindy - 4/10/2006 3:22:39 PM
    - There's a simple reason why I didn't answer your question... - Larry J - 4/10/2006 6:16:51 PM
      - Bill Maher speaks out (for you Larry) - Lindy - 4/11/2006 4:02:10 AM
        
        One more bitter little leftist. - Tom Brosz - 4/11/2006 7:06:57 AM
      - Please supply your sources on Wilson's lies. (n/t) - et - 4/11/2006 2:55:23 AM
        
        Top Ten Wilson Lies - SteveS - 4/11/2006 3:37:29 PM
        
        And another.... - et - 4/11/2006 4:25:20 PM
        
        A 6month old rebuttal of your 6 month old link. - et - 4/11/2006 4:21:53 PM
        
        Can't ignore this noninflamitory report - SteveS - 4/11/2006 6:35:26 PM
        
        This is quick becoming a cottage industry. - et - 4/11/2006 4:05:30 PM
        
        They are facts, not talking points - SteveS - 4/11/2006 5:14:52 PM
        
        For a start, Wilson went in 2002 - tony - 4/12/2006 3:21:13 PM
        
        You lost me - SteveS - 4/12/2006 4:13:11 PM
        
        Ah, you're right - Tony - 4/12/2006 6:42:12 PM
        
        Thanks! (n/t) - SteveS - 4/12/2006 10:02:39 PM
        
        Part of the relevance is that it led to him being sent in '02 as well, regardless of who chose him. (n/t) - et - 4/12/2006 8:31:42 PM
        
        Those 2 had more than food stirring in the pot a dinner time ;-) (n/t) - SteveS - 4/12/2006 10:09:56 PM
        
        "Unless you think deceiving the American public is just" - Lindy - 4/12/2006 4:16:10 PM
        
        Gee Lindy - SteveS - 4/12/2006 4:36:24 PM
        
        Look at my earlier post on this thread - Larry J - 4/11/2006 1:58:17 PM
        
        Is the WaPo editorial of Sunday last your only source? (n/t) - et - 4/11/2006 3:38:25 PM
        
        because if it is, he's lost all paddles.... (n/t) - Tony - 4/11/2006 5:13:39 PM
- Something else from the Washington Post - Tom Brosz - 4/9/2006 8:41:20 PM

Medicare drug program update. - Tom Brosz - 4/12/2006 5:22:34 PM

People's Paradise update - Tom Brosz - 4/12/2006 5:11:44 PM

Saddam's papers - Tom Brosz - 4/9/2006 6:55:41 AM
- An editorial on this - Tom Brosz - 4/9/2006 7:00:08 AM
  - And the Rev. Kennedy has a new book exposing the lies in the Da Vinci Code...................... - Publius - 4/9/2006 3:54:46 PM
    - Kind of expected that all to go in one ear and out the other. - Tom Brosz - 4/10/2006 5:09:14 AM
      - This isn't about Iraq or Bush for you. It never has been. It's about getting your own back for Viet Nam. (n/t) - Tony - 4/11/2006 7:55:55 PM
        
        I think that was more revealing than you wanted it to be. - Tom Brosz - 4/11/2006 9:00:15 PM
        
        Elaboration..... - Tony - 4/12/2006 3:32:17 PM
        
        No. But keep proving me right. - tony - 4/12/2006 12:59:48 AM
        
        "Vietnam was the last great victory of the Left" - Lindy - 4/12/2006 12:26:09 AM
      - Actually what it is about............... - Publius - 4/10/2006 5:56:51 PM
        
        re: what it is about............... - Tom Brosz - 4/10/2006 8:34:42 PM
        
        precisely the point........ - Publius - 4/10/2006 10:43:42 PM
      - "This isn't about Iraq for them, and never has been. " - Lindy - 4/10/2006 3:28:26 PM
    - Not just an editorial--a book, video, CDs, and VHC...... (n/t) - Publius - 4/9/2006 3:56:52 PM

2,363 - Donald - 4/12/2006 1:12:03 PM

EU to fine Spain for not fulfilling Kyoto protocol - gbaikie - 4/12/2006 7:53:15 AM

Antarctica is likely to be the world's only habitable continent - gbaikie - 4/10/2006 8:15:59 PM
- Another view - Tony - 4/11/2006 6:51:31 PM
  - A question - FrankC - 4/12/2006 4:38:32 AM
    - re: A question - gbaikie - 4/12/2006 6:20:32 AM
  - re: Another view - gbaikie - 4/12/2006 1:31:53 AM
    - re: Another view - gbaikie - 4/12/2006 6:38:02 AM

2,361 - Donald - 4/12/2006 1:39:46 AM

Defensive shield against RPGs. - Tom Brosz - 4/9/2006 7:52:02 AM
- Helicopters need this even MORE than ground armored vehicles. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 4/10/2006 3:48:17 PM
  - If you read the story about "Blackhawk Down"... - Larry J - 4/10/2006 6:11:23 PM
- It isn't a shield - Larry J - 4/9/2006 9:10:28 PM
  - I used the term "shield" loosely. - Tom Brosz - 4/9/2006 10:00:50 PM
    - From the descriptions I could find it seemed more like it was a small missile - R.L. - 4/11/2006 3:51:21 AM
      - IEDs - Tom Brosz - 4/11/2006 8:58:35 PM
      - Anti-mine technology - nick hoffman - 4/11/2006 2:54:01 PM
        
        What about.... - R.L. - 4/11/2006 5:35:12 PM

Third anniversary of the fall of Saddam. - Tom Brosz - 4/9/2006 11:06:17 PM
- It seems to me like the Iraqis are taking their own sweet time - David F Mayer - 4/10/2006 7:46:35 PM
  - How DARE they?! - R.L. - 4/11/2006 12:24:02 AM
    - All the assholes need to do is to form a government coalition. - David F Mayer - 4/11/2006 4:53:59 PM
    - I think under the circumstances, the Iraqis are doing a damn good job. - Tom Brosz - 4/11/2006 7:00:01 AM
      - the miracle is........ - Publius - 4/11/2006 3:01:34 PM
      - LOL... - R.L. - 4/11/2006 7:16:51 AM
        
        Rosy predictions - Tom Brosz - 4/11/2006 5:58:30 PM
    - re: How DARE they?! - Buck Galaxy - 4/11/2006 6:04:29 AM
- More commemorations - Tom Brosz - 4/9/2006 11:36:08 PM

2,354 - Donald - 4/11/2006 1:38:00 PM
- Meanwhile: - Donald - 4/11/2006 1:55:22 PM

Christopher Hitchens - Tom Brosz - 4/11/2006 6:53:07 AM

Loose Cannon: Bush is planning nuclear strikes on Iran's secret sites' - Eric - 4/9/2006 3:35:06 AM
- Hersh is a loon... - Tom Brosz - 4/9/2006 5:09:36 AM
  - But I notice today he's getting full-bore media exposure. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 4/10/2006 4:02:39 PM
  - re: Hersh is a loon... - gbaikie - 4/10/2006 1:44:08 AM
  - It isn't only Hersh (WaPo, some named sources) - dtb - 4/9/2006 3:03:30 PM
    - View from the bombing range - Lindy - 4/9/2006 4:30:31 PM
- I doubt if anybody outside the White House knows what Bush is planning. - David F Mayer - 4/9/2006 4:44:15 AM
  - I doubt if anybody inside the White House knows what Caligula, er Bush is planning. (n/t) - Publius - 4/10/2006 7:55:34 PM
- Bush wants the capability to turn out 125 new nuclear bombs per year by 2022 (n/t) - Eric - 4/9/2006 4:13:24 AM

Iran 'shoots down unmanned plane' - Eric - 4/9/2006 5:28:55 PM
- Let them keep shooting - Lindy - 4/10/2006 3:21:01 PM

The Tank Man on PBS Frontline - ljk - 4/7/2006 6:13:42 PM
- This Tuesday, April 11, at 9 pm ET on PBS-TV - ljk - 4/10/2006 2:39:12 PM

William F. Buckley Jr.: War defines Bush's failure - Donald - 4/9/2006 12:57:25 PM
- re: William F. Buckley Jr.: War defines Bush's failure - ljk - 4/9/2006 4:25:13 PM

U.S. Study Paints Somber Portrait of Iraqi Discord - Donald - 4/9/2006 12:27:08 PM
- Meanwhile: Iraq Findings Leaked by Cheney's Aide Were Disputed - Donald - 4/9/2006 12:30:01 PM
  - And: 2,350 - Donald - 4/9/2006 12:32:51 PM

Official: Iraq in "Undeclared Civil War" - Donald - 4/8/2006 9:09:48 PM
- "Undeclared Civil War raging for more than a year..." - Buck Galaxy - 4/9/2006 3:01:54 AM
  - re: "Undeclared Civil War raging for more than a year..." - Tom Brosz - 4/9/2006 4:52:17 AM
    - Geez, I expected some major gloating there. Is it too late in the evening? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 4/9/2006 4:56:54 AM

Impeach Bush - Donald - 4/7/2006 12:45:23 AM
- The president has declassification authority - Larry J - 4/7/2006 1:18:02 PM
  - It blows me away.... - R.L. - 4/9/2006 4:35:37 AM
  - too quick on the draw here........... - Publius - 4/7/2006 2:16:25 PM
    - Valery Plame was not an active CIA operative at the time... - Larry J - 4/7/2006 7:18:27 PM
      - I assume she was not receiving any pay checks from the trough? - Publius - 4/7/2006 9:08:20 PM
      - Thank you Talking Points Larry - Tony - 4/7/2006 8:52:31 PM
        
        Notice you didn't actually negate any of the "talking points." (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 4/8/2006 5:05:37 AM
        
        Didja stop reading after the title? - Tony - 4/8/2006 1:44:44 PM
        
        Turn it around... - Tom Brosz - 4/8/2006 9:08:30 PM
        
        All a-twitter myself - tony - 4/7/2006 8:57:33 PM
  - You miss the point - Donald - 4/7/2006 1:42:37 PM
    - He has that right - Larry J - 4/7/2006 7:09:56 PM
- The President CANNOT Illegally Pass Classified Information. - David F Mayer - 4/7/2006 12:23:16 PM
  - But the President CAN unetically pass classified information - Donald - 4/7/2006 1:55:39 PM
    - Unethical, possibly. In fact, likely. - David F Mayer - 4/9/2006 3:14:50 AM
- But all those leaking to the New York Times are okay. - Tom Brosz - 4/7/2006 4:30:31 AM
  - It's all wrong - Buck Galaxy - 4/7/2006 7:35:20 AM
    - Reality check yourself. - Tom Brosz - 4/7/2006 2:35:29 PM
    - I'm trying to figure out how Americans put a man on the Moon - SDF - 4/7/2006 10:39:17 AM
      - Being Canada's biggest trading partner, this is a problem - SDF - 4/7/2006 10:43:15 AM
- Meanwhile: 2,345 - Donald - 4/7/2006 1:16:15 AM

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