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What's going on with all the military exersises going on all at once? - Derek - 6/5/2004 1:40:55 PM
- Sharon to take down 2 governments, if not 3 or more - E.P. Grondine - 6/6/2004 1:12:24 AM
- re:Cobra Gold - SteveS - 6/5/2004 3:42:30 PM

John C. Danforth as U.N. ambassador? - Tom Brosz - 6/6/2004 12:56:01 AM

Reagan Dead - FrankC - 6/5/2004 9:52:26 PM
- Oops didn't refresh and see thread below (n/t) - FrankC - 6/5/2004 9:55:09 PM

Wretchard walks on water - Gary - 6/5/2004 3:25:53 PM
- He'd have you believe that, wouldn't he? - Bowser - 6/5/2004 8:05:43 PM
- re: Wretchard walks on water - Tom Brosz - 6/5/2004 5:11:56 PM

248,000 more payroll jobs in May - Tom Brosz - 6/4/2004 3:29:06 PM
- Remember the 2.6 million jobs? - Tom Brosz - 6/5/2004 12:39:29 AM
- This is very BAD news, if you are a Democratic politician. Good news for everybody else. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 6/4/2004 6:23:41 PM
  - re: It's good news for everyone whether Demo or GOP. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 6/5/2004 3:24:15 PM
    - I think David was specifically talking about Democratic politicians. - Tom Brosz - 6/5/2004 6:06:34 PM
- Almost forgot... - Tom Brosz - 6/4/2004 4:34:07 PM

Ronald Reagan's health is fast deteriorating. - Jacob Samorodin - 6/5/2004 4:45:10 PM

Second top official to quit CIA - Derek - 6/5/2004 3:45:53 PM

Being at the right place at the right time - Tom Brosz - 6/4/2004 11:43:53 PM

News flash: Iran lying to U.N. about nukes. - Tom Brosz - 6/3/2004 9:23:28 PM
- Enriched uranium [36% U-235]...They already have at least one nuke. (n/t) - Jacob Samorodin - 6/4/2004 4:44:10 PM
- No! Really? Why am I not surprised? (n/t) - David F Mayer - 6/4/2004 6:30:49 AM
- And your point is - - - ? (n/t) - Bowser - 6/3/2004 11:23:44 PM
- News flash: Bush lied to world about Iraqi nukes. (n/t) - Bowser - 6/3/2004 11:20:03 PM
  - Your opinion. - REB - 6/4/2004 1:15:49 PM
    - Not garbage at all. - alcaray - 6/4/2004 7:32:43 PM
  - Not news, Bush lies about Bush (n/t) - FrankC - 6/4/2004 1:43:04 AM
  - re: News flash: Israel lied to world about nukes. (n/t) - Bowser - 6/3/2004 11:21:11 PM
    - Iran is party to NPT. Israel is not. - Pete Stanley - 6/4/2004 6:46:01 AM
    - If you don't see the difference between Israel having nukes and Iran having them, there's no point in discussing it. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 6/4/2004 4:45:56 AM
    - News flash: Pakistan lied to world about spreading nukes. (n/t) - Bowser - 6/3/2004 11:22:48 PM
      - And it wasn't the U.N. that caught them and broke it up, was it? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 6/4/2004 4:46:41 AM
      - Obviously means that the UN is evil (n/t) - alcaray - 6/3/2004 11:25:13 PM
        
        Wouldn't go that far. - Tom Brosz - 6/4/2004 4:47:45 AM

Gas Prices Surpass $2 per liter in Britain - Success_Machine - 6/2/2004 11:37:06 PM
- Great news! Thanks! (n/t) - David F Mayer - 6/2/2004 11:54:50 PM
  - re: No evidence of people switching to biofuels. - Success_Machine - 6/3/2004 12:00:44 AM
    - re: No evidence of people switching to biofuels. - David F Mayer - 6/3/2004 1:24:44 PM
      - gas prices hype - SDG - 6/3/2004 3:08:48 PM
        
        Lead Time - David F Mayer - 6/3/2004 7:51:09 PM
        
        re: Lead Time - SDG - 6/3/2004 10:16:26 PM
        
        We are in agreement. The tax should be used to develop alternate energy sources and provide energy assistance to the poor. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 6/3/2004 11:29:21 PM
        
        One of many problems with this... - Tom Brosz - 6/4/2004 5:16:35 PM
        
        The Department of Energy is full of total idiots. That is a major problem. - David F Mayer - 6/4/2004 7:07:00 PM
        
        The real problem is that the tax would just be used for more pork barrel spending - Larry J - 6/4/2004 2:26:00 AM
        
        Alas, true. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 6/4/2004 6:33:20 AM
        
        The problem - SDG - 6/4/2004 12:07:56 AM
      - gas prices hype - SDG - 6/3/2004 3:08:39 PM

Ashcroft "far exceeds his authority" in trying to force his religious beliefs upon others. - Bowser - 6/4/2004 6:40:47 PM

North Korea continues its decline - David F Mayer - 6/4/2004 6:29:11 AM
- North Korea doomed: Opens border with South to Trade - David F Mayer - 6/4/2004 11:59:06 AM
  - re: North Korea doomed: Opens border with South to Trade - SteveS - 6/4/2004 1:23:46 PM

North Korea continues its decline - David F Mayer - 6/4/2004 6:29:02 AM

If the oil supply is maxxed out, and demand doesn't diminish - - - ? - Bowser - 6/3/2004 5:48:25 AM
- Noticed none of you mentioned the overpriced and jittery futures market - Tony - 6/3/2004 4:35:59 PM
- re: I wouldn't care, because I don't drive a car - Success_Machine - 6/3/2004 2:00:43 PM
- Oil supply is only part of the equation here in the US - Larry J - 6/3/2004 1:35:28 PM
  - Chokepoints. - Bowser - 6/3/2004 2:23:29 PM
    - Fear Factor. - RobVG - 6/3/2004 3:03:57 PM
      - Assumptions of scarcity? - RobVG - 6/4/2004 3:14:45 AM
        
        Frankly, I suspect that's true. - Bowser - 6/4/2004 5:35:17 AM
- At present, demand seems to be much more of an issue than supply. - Tom Brosz - 6/3/2004 7:10:57 AM
  - And of course, there's the environmental movement. - Tom Brosz - 6/3/2004 4:14:03 PM

Busted: Enron Traders Caught On Tape - Jack Herer - 6/2/2004 1:57:42 PM
- So, we're all the way back to Enron again? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 6/2/2004 5:27:30 PM
  - Did you hear any of the audio that was just released? - alcaray - 6/3/2004 6:33:25 PM
    - Heard it on NPR this AM - McFly - 6/4/2004 12:39:26 AM
    - Audio found at King5.com - RobVG - 6/3/2004 7:03:58 PM
  - Why not? - Lindy - 6/3/2004 12:25:58 AM
- Wait for the trial. - RobVG - 6/2/2004 3:19:49 PM
  - Smells like politics? "Kenny-boy" ain't in jail. (n/t) - Bowser - 6/2/2004 3:33:52 PM

Perspective - Tom Brosz - 6/1/2004 11:20:37 PM
- Nice to see you posting Sullivan again - Tony - 6/2/2004 4:27:27 PM
  - Closing ranks because it's starting to look like Bush might lose? (n/t) - alcaray - 6/3/2004 6:25:43 PM
    - I dont believe in conspiracy theories........;-) (n/t) - Tony - 6/3/2004 8:18:12 PM
      - When he starts blogging that a constitutional amendment vs. gay marriage sounds like a good thing... (n/t) - alcaray - 6/3/2004 9:24:19 PM
- Travesty - Bowser - 6/2/2004 12:30:15 AM
  - Nope, it's just you - FrankC - 6/2/2004 4:10:27 AM
    - We DIDN'T invade and occupy a country which wasn't a threat? - Bowser - 6/2/2004 4:19:15 AM
      - Threats - Tom Brosz - 6/2/2004 5:01:45 AM
        
        Lessee. How many Iraqis were on those plane? - Bowser - 6/2/2004 5:38:15 AM
        
        How many Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? - Larry J - 6/2/2004 7:03:27 PM
        
        Not responsive, Amos. If you would learn instead of "knowing", you would be liberal, I guess. - Bowser - 6/2/2004 8:03:35 PM
        
        Declaration of war - Tom Brosz - 6/3/2004 12:45:01 AM
        
        Did the US declare war against Iraq? - Bowser - 6/3/2004 4:09:41 AM
        
        Al Queda did declare war on the US in 1997 - Larry J - 6/3/2004 1:42:02 PM
        
        The war on terror is bigger than 9-11... - Larry J - 6/2/2004 9:00:09 PM
        
        The real issue - Tom Brosz - 6/3/2004 1:01:45 AM
        
        re: The real issue in Tomworld - Tony - 6/3/2004 4:47:42 PM
        
        re: The real issue - Tom Brosz - 6/3/2004 5:51:23 PM
        
        re: The real issue - Tony - 6/3/2004 8:58:49 PM
        
        re: The real issue - Tom Brosz - 6/3/2004 10:34:31 PM
        
        the logic - FrankC - 6/2/2004 5:49:49 PM

Tenet resigned - Tony - 6/3/2004 3:19:18 PM
- Time to stop messing around - FrankC - 6/3/2004 4:11:04 PM
- Most conservatives thought he should have been out the door two minutes after the inauguration. - Tom Brosz - 6/3/2004 4:02:20 PM
  - Beginning of the Bail Outs? - Lindy - 6/3/2004 4:10:20 PM
    - re: Free - Raoul - 6/3/2004 4:31:05 PM
      - Watching his farewell speech... - FrankC - 6/3/2004 6:35:39 PM
        
        Transcript - Tony - 6/3/2004 8:32:40 PM

Religion of Peace Update - Tom Brosz - 5/29/2004 12:57:53 AM
- The Klan uses a cross for its symbol, too. - Mary Anne - 5/29/2004 2:42:53 PM
  - Nice try. - Tom Brosz - 5/29/2004 6:46:49 PM
    - *Maybe* he doesn't represent the entire Muslim religion?? - Mary Anne - 5/31/2004 3:08:04 AM
      - Fine. - Tom Brosz - 5/31/2004 7:23:05 PM
        
        Oh, wait... - Mary Anne - 6/1/2004 3:30:54 AM
        
        re: Oh, wait... - Tom Brosz - 6/1/2004 4:29:12 AM
        
        Demonstrations? That would not be smart or even safe. - alcaray - 6/1/2004 9:54:16 PM
        
        re: Pro-America Muslim demonstrations in the U.S. not smart or even safe? Now why would that be? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 6/1/2004 10:32:36 PM
        
        Same reason I keep a low profile in South LA (n/t) - alcaray - 6/1/2004 10:39:37 PM
        
        Ridiculous. - Tom Brosz - 6/1/2004 11:10:21 PM
        
        From your American conservative WASP point of view, perhaps - alcaray - 6/2/2004 3:41:05 PM
        
        Okay, we're having communications problems again. - Tom Brosz - 6/2/2004 6:54:20 PM
        
        You aren't listening - alcaray - 6/3/2004 3:59:06 PM
        
        re: You aren't paying attention to the facts. - Tom Brosz - 6/3/2004 4:29:25 PM
        
        re: "afraid of their less-moderate brethren, not of anti-Muslim Americans." - alcaray - 6/3/2004 4:47:23 PM
        
        re: Oh, wait... - Mary Anne - 6/1/2004 12:47:19 PM
        
        Seriously... - Tom Brosz - 6/1/2004 9:10:27 PM
        
        Apparently the header... - Mary Anne - 6/1/2004 3:22:22 AM
        
        Sauce for the gander - Fox - 5/31/2004 11:14:38 PM
    - noted your quote of the REPUBLICAN Guard. Good picture of life under a conservative (by definition) government....... (n/t) - Publius - 5/30/2004 8:10:28 PM
      - Using the same ridiculous premise, what does that say about the Democratic People's Republic of Korea? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 5/30/2004 8:54:51 PM
    - And George Bush claims guidance from a Christian God. - Bowser - 5/30/2004 12:48:52 AM
- Talk about suicidal stupidity... - Gary - 5/29/2004 4:39:33 AM
  - If Iran were insane enough to attack the USA with a nuke, it would be annhilated in revenge. At least 500 warheads would be dispatched to Iran. Result: No such place any more. - David F Mayer - 5/30/2004 2:06:32 PM
- Religion of Peace Update - Bowser - 5/29/2004 4:19:58 AM
- I will spare evryone my gut reaction to that spew (n/t) - FrankC - 5/29/2004 1:11:40 AM

America's Black Eye - Lindy - 6/2/2004 3:30:39 PM
- re: America's Black Eye - Art Martin - 6/2/2004 4:27:19 PM
  - Polls - Lindy - 6/2/2004 7:25:59 PM
  - Give me a break - FrankC - 6/2/2004 6:12:47 PM
    - re: Give me a break - Art Martin - 6/2/2004 11:59:34 PM
      - C- (n/t) - FrankC - 6/3/2004 4:55:24 AM
      - Frank, he's cranky lately...... - Lindy - 6/3/2004 1:14:23 AM
  - "Tens of thousands of Iraqis are dead" - Tom Brosz - 6/2/2004 5:23:41 PM

Waiting for it... - Tom Brosz - 6/3/2004 1:11:37 AM
- Quagmire - "Remember, no matter what we do in Iraq, it's wrong." - Bowser - 6/3/2004 1:42:54 AM

Drudge Report: The US is about to shift 12,000 more troops from Korea to Iraq. - Jacob Samorodin - 6/1/2004 6:40:20 PM
- Not sure if this is a wise move - Buck Galaxy - 6/2/2004 7:01:53 AM
  - The South Koreans don't even need our help. - Lee - 6/2/2004 11:47:25 PM
  - Yes! It leaves one with the impression that there are serious manpower shortages in the US Military. (n/t) - Jacob Samorodin - 6/2/2004 4:40:57 PM

Find the Lowest Gas Prices --- Anywhere! - Success_Machine - 6/2/2004 11:27:24 PM

If WW2 was reported by today's reporters - David F Mayer - 5/30/2004 8:57:53 PM
- In WWII, even pro-fascists like Lindbergh and Joe Kennedy shutup and pitched in to help. They were patriots. (n/t) - ebnelson - 6/2/2004 1:53:57 AM
  - Neither were really pro-fascist as much as they were isolationist and defeatist - Larry J - 6/2/2004 7:16:28 PM
- Right-wing conservative run up to WWII,,,,,,, - Publius - 5/31/2004 3:57:43 PM
  - re: run up to WWII - Tom Brosz - 6/1/2004 3:58:32 AM
    - When the Nazis and Communists signed the famed non-agression pact, the LEFT in the USA followed the party line and kissed Hitler's ass. After all, Hitler was also a socialist. - David F Mayer - 6/1/2004 6:43:19 AM
      - Actually Hitler feared the Socialist and Communists, made them illegal, closed down all labor unions, prohibited strikes, etc. do I have to continue to show you how wrong you are? (n/t) - Publius - 6/1/2004 12:44:01 PM
        
        I was discussing the Left in the U.S. - Tom Brosz - 6/1/2004 8:33:59 PM
        
        reminds me .. - Daniel L - 6/2/2004 3:03:23 PM
        
        Yes, because you are yourself mistaken. - David F Mayer - 6/1/2004 7:12:38 PM
- re: The messenger - Raoul - 5/30/2004 9:49:33 PM
- Self-defense v. "pre-emptively" beating the hell out of someone smaller and weaker. - Bowser - 5/30/2004 9:11:02 PM
  - George Bush's Wildly Successful War On Terrorism - FrankC - 5/30/2004 10:48:21 PM
    - Failure is Success, War is Peace, Offense is Defense.... - Publius - 5/31/2004 3:40:54 PM
    - '...local elections that have happened across most of Iraq already'? - m - 5/30/2004 11:26:14 PM
      - There's a hell of a lot about Iraq that should be more widely reported. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 5/31/2004 7:20:05 AM
    - Ah, yes. There's fighting the good fight. And then there's George Bush. - Bowser - 5/30/2004 10:59:05 PM
      - Teddy Roosevelt and his Rough Riders.....Republican heros all. - Publius - 5/31/2004 4:11:07 PM
      - "Li'l Saddam" - Tom Brosz - 5/30/2004 11:09:47 PM
        
        I feel SO sorry for Saddam Hussein. - David F Mayer - 5/31/2004 1:21:37 AM
  - It is that the reporting is such bullshit! (n/t) - DFM - 5/30/2004 9:13:28 PM

Why Al Qaeda will not use old, deteriorated explosives from buried WW1 and WW2 shells. - David F Mayer - 6/2/2004 12:51:52 AM
- They dont need to - R.L - 6/2/2004 7:18:02 AM
  - I agree that explosives are much more easily obtained from other means than by using the contents of deteriorating old artillery shells. - David F Mayer - 6/2/2004 1:33:04 PM
    - I'm surprised Raoul doesn't weigh-in on this. - Jacob Samorodin - 6/2/2004 4:48:54 PM
      - At Jefferson Proving Grounds in Indiana, there are some TWELVE MILLION unexploded munitions. - David F Mayer - 6/2/2004 6:14:12 PM
- Think "Li-OH". - Bowser - 6/2/2004 1:54:57 AM
  - What about it? (n/t) - David F Mayer - 6/2/2004 6:41:59 AM

'Man of Steel' set to meet the Prez ! - Daniel L - 6/2/2004 3:43:51 PM
- Sharon to take down at lesat 2 governments, if not 3 or more - E.P. Grondine - 6/2/2004 5:51:14 PM
  - sorry for the typos - E.P. Grondine - 6/2/2004 5:53:44 PM
- maybe needs elaboration - the Oz Prime Minister (n/t) - Daniel L - 6/2/2004 4:43:29 PM

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