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Things that make you go Hmmm... - Bookworm - 6/9/2004 7:50:03 PM
- re: Things that make you go Hmmm... - Jack Herer - 6/9/2004 8:15:35 PM
  - Possibly Unstable? - Lindy - 6/10/2004 3:01:10 AM

Oh, my. More examples of the market controlling unregulated capitalism. - Bowser - 6/9/2004 3:26:00 AM
- Just in case you might have missed it... - Tom Brosz - 6/9/2004 4:53:05 AM
  - An ounce of prevention - McFly - 6/9/2004 1:47:57 PM
    - Well said - Art Martin - 6/9/2004 11:46:48 PM
    - The myth of omnipotent law - Tom Brosz - 6/9/2004 3:55:10 PM
      - re: The myth of omnipotent law - Art Martin - 6/9/2004 11:55:26 PM
      - Dang you, Tom - McFly - 6/9/2004 5:36:00 PM
    - Preventing future 'Enron's' - REB - 6/9/2004 2:43:08 PM

Wolfowitz and the plans for Iraq - Tom Brosz - 6/9/2004 11:27:32 PM

Some good things are happening in Iraq - Buck Galaxy - 6/9/2004 2:01:40 AM
- re: Some more good things happening in Iraq - Tom Brosz - 6/9/2004 11:25:23 PM
- Sovereign? - Bowser - 6/9/2004 2:36:26 AM
  - All things in due time Arf - Buck Galaxy - 6/9/2004 3:25:23 AM
    - We'll see. - Bowser - 6/9/2004 3:33:16 AM
      - re: We'll see. - REB - 6/9/2004 2:47:07 PM
- U.N. Security Council endorses transfer resolution unanimously - Tom Brosz - 6/9/2004 2:30:48 AM
- That ain't all... - Tom Brosz - 6/9/2004 2:27:58 AM

Brokaw interview with Bush - Tom Brosz - 6/9/2004 11:15:43 PM

David Kay slams WMD delusions - Donald - 6/7/2004 1:05:46 PM
- It's useful to keep track of how high the bar currently is... - Tom Brosz - 6/7/2004 4:50:13 PM
  - That entire slaughter is justified by ONE artillery shell? Old artillery shell? - Bowser - 6/8/2004 12:30:07 AM
    - re: That entire slaughter is justified by ONE artillery shell? Old artillery shell? - REB - 6/8/2004 4:58:39 PM
      - Did I, Bowser, go through the whole country? - Bowser - 6/9/2004 3:21:13 AM
        
        re: Did I, Bowser, go through the whole country? - REB - 6/9/2004 11:56:47 AM
    - re: one artillery shell - Tom Brosz - 6/8/2004 12:45:23 AM
  - What does "newly produced" have to do with anything? - David F Mayer - 6/7/2004 8:59:35 PM
  - Blair set it for the Brits - tactical weapons 45 min. from deployment. - Bowser - 6/7/2004 7:09:28 PM
  - Does age of a usable WMD make it any less Lethal? - REB - 6/7/2004 6:52:43 PM
    - Yes. They degrade over time. (n/t) - alcaray - 6/8/2004 4:34:26 PM
      - Unmixed binaries don't. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 6/8/2004 5:07:21 PM
      - This one wasnâ€™t that old. - REB - 6/8/2004 4:54:38 PM
        
        Just answering your question (n/t) - alcaray - 6/8/2004 5:37:15 PM
        
        Okay - REB - 6/9/2004 2:48:57 PM
        
        Minor quibble about shelf-life - alcaray - 6/9/2004 4:00:05 PM
        
        re: Minor quibble about shelf-life - Tom Brosz - 6/9/2004 4:28:36 PM
        
        Hard to reconcile - alcaray - 6/9/2004 8:26:58 PM
- You should try occasionally reading the articles you post (n/t) - ebnelson - 6/7/2004 1:58:29 PM

Ashcroft: 'This administration rejects torture' - seems fishy. - Bowser - 6/9/2004 5:39:20 AM

Super-Secret Bilderberg meeting today in Italy - Derek - 6/6/2004 4:50:35 PM
- "Bilderberg: The ultimate conspiracy theory" - Fox - 6/8/2004 11:19:09 PM
  - Worldnet Daily - Tom Brosz - 6/9/2004 2:49:15 AM
- Secrecy is necessary to plan the rebirth of the Galatic Empire! - IA - 6/8/2004 1:36:57 AM
  - Oh I get it .. "IA" is - - Daniel L - 6/8/2004 4:25:30 AM
  - yes Professor Seldon - I'll keep quiet - Daniel L - 6/8/2004 4:21:31 AM
  - You know, if I were a secret world power, I'd think of a cooler name for myself than "Bilderberger." (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 6/8/2004 2:00:54 AM
    - Or create a chain of fast food places to take over the world. - Lee - 6/8/2004 2:48:20 AM
      - Fool! None shall surpass the controlling power of Lord Ronald! - Tom Brosz - 6/8/2004 3:05:19 AM
        
        I would happily bow down to thee, Lord Ronald .. - Daniel L - 6/8/2004 4:37:49 AM
- If it were so damned secret, how did YOU learn about it? (n/t) - DFM - 6/7/2004 8:53:27 PM
- The Great Gig in the Sky - Alan G. Archer - 6/6/2004 9:44:18 PM
  - In keeping with the lifestyle of its namesake, USS Jimmy Carter (CCN 23) has no rudder. It just goes in circles. - David F Mayer - 6/7/2004 4:14:02 AM
    - sarcasm duly noted - Alan G. Archer - 6/7/2004 10:07:27 AM

"Despite Agreement, Insurgents Rule Fallujah" - Change the mission, declare victory, and go home. - Bowser - 6/7/2004 2:42:20 PM
- OK, let's bring in the B-1Bs and level the place. Would THAT make you happy? - David F Mayer - 6/8/2004 6:56:37 PM
- Yeah, it's called Retardlican deja vu, shades of Nixon too!........... (n/t) - Publius - 6/8/2004 2:03:30 PM
- Fallujah isn't going anywhere. - Tom Brosz - 6/7/2004 5:39:52 PM
  - Damned if they do, and damned if they donâ€™t. - REB - 6/8/2004 5:29:49 PM
  - And neither is the Cheney/bush war. (n/t) - Bowser - 6/8/2004 4:46:34 AM
  - And... - SteveS - 6/7/2004 9:00:15 PM

Atlantis Found -- Again? Yes! - David F Mayer - 6/7/2004 4:31:45 AM
- Oi vey, you actually remember Judge Crater?............... (n/t) - Publius - 6/8/2004 2:07:30 PM
  - We went to law school together. We were old buddies. I was very upset when he vanished. - David F Mayer - 6/8/2004 6:52:11 PM
- Too silly - Donald - 6/7/2004 12:50:20 PM

A scientific test - Gary - 6/8/2004 4:18:22 PM
- Stiring the pot - SteveS - 6/8/2004 4:59:10 PM
- re: A scientific test - Daniel L - 6/8/2004 4:57:31 PM
- re: A scientific test - Tom Brosz - 6/8/2004 4:54:45 PM
  - And to be fair... - Tom Brosz - 6/8/2004 5:04:36 PM
- re: A scientific test - McFly - 6/8/2004 4:32:00 PM
- Seems like there's no reason for an experiment - alcaray - 6/8/2004 4:29:10 PM

Ronald Reagan has died. - Tom Brosz - 6/5/2004 8:54:07 PM
- I'm on my 10th president - Larry J - 6/7/2004 7:10:43 PM
- re: Ronald Reagan has died. - REB - 6/7/2004 12:32:19 PM
- Lileks on Reagan - Tom Brosz - 6/7/2004 5:01:06 AM
- Peggy Noonan on Reagan - Tom Brosz - 6/7/2004 4:29:33 AM
- re: Ronald Reagan - Raoul - 6/6/2004 7:27:52 AM
  - Ronald Reagan in Normandy - Tom Brosz - 6/7/2004 12:01:24 AM
    - Have you ever checked on what Ronnie REALLY did during WWII? - Bowser - 6/7/2004 3:51:46 AM
      - REALLY! Was that an attempt at belittlement? - SteveS - 6/7/2004 2:54:19 PM
        
        Folks confuse him with his roles. He wasn't at Normandy, for instance. - Bowser - 6/8/2004 3:26:24 AM
        
        re: I think people are smarter than that - SteveS - 6/8/2004 2:23:28 PM
      - re: What Ronnie did during WWII - Tom Brosz - 6/7/2004 4:24:27 AM
        
        yep, pretty nasty forum (your link) - daniel L - 6/8/2004 12:47:01 AM
        
        re: nasty forum - Tom Brosz - 6/8/2004 1:15:56 AM
        
        Let's put it to a scientific test - Gary - 6/8/2004 4:04:33 PM
    - Complete speech - Tom Brosz - 6/7/2004 12:11:50 AM
  - Many in Europe hated him and attacked him very personally. (n/t) - ebnelson - 6/6/2004 2:56:29 PM
- Whether you loved him or hated him - Buck Galaxy - 6/6/2004 5:54:47 AM
  - Another thing - Buck Galaxy - 6/6/2004 5:59:25 AM
    - I strongly agree... - Tom Brosz - 6/6/2004 11:16:59 PM
- Ronald Reagan was a part of our history, and ...... - Publius - 6/6/2004 3:56:44 AM
  - Isn't it funny how time passes? - Lee - 6/6/2004 4:08:27 AM
- I'm very sad and relieved at the same time. - Lee - 6/6/2004 2:37:18 AM
- Good commentaries from both presidential candidates - Tom Brosz - 6/6/2004 12:53:30 AM
- Sincerely, RIP Mr. President (n/t) - Tony - 6/6/2004 12:26:18 AM
- God bless - Donald - 6/5/2004 11:53:32 PM
- Famous quotes from the Gipper. - John - 6/5/2004 11:43:24 PM
- Not to be forgotten. (n/t) - RobVG - 6/5/2004 9:48:25 PM
- I didn't vote for Reagan but my opinion of him has risen greatly in the past 16 years - m - 6/5/2004 9:34:28 PM
- Hail to the Gipper - SteveS - 6/5/2004 9:21:06 PM

4 Hostages freed in Iraq - SteveS - 6/8/2004 2:36:11 PM

Micheal Moore has a taped interview with Nick Berg. - Lindy - 5/30/2004 6:04:49 PM
- re: Micheal Moore has a taped interview with Nick Berg. - shawn - 6/8/2004 2:16:37 PM
- What's your point? - Daniel L - 5/31/2004 4:07:06 PM
  - re: What's your point? - Lindy - 5/31/2004 6:07:44 PM
    - so ..? - Daniel L - 6/1/2004 12:53:06 AM
      - No agenda - Lindy - 6/1/2004 6:35:36 PM
        
        ok Lindy .. - Daniel L - 6/2/2004 4:28:09 PM
        
        re: ok Lindy .. - Lindy - 6/3/2004 12:55:08 AM
        
        back to moral equivalence again - - Daniel L - 6/3/2004 4:49:05 AM
- re: I wouldn't care if Moore had a taped interview with God . . . (n/t) - D. Spires - 5/30/2004 8:06:21 PM
  - I would........................ (n/t) - Publius - 6/1/2004 12:03:48 AM

Land of the free, home of the brave. - Bowser - 6/7/2004 3:55:23 PM
- Article by an ignoramous, resonating with the uninformed. (n/t) - ebnelson - 6/8/2004 2:23:42 AM
  - Probably belongs on Flame, ed, if anywhere. - Bowser - 6/8/2004 3:01:59 AM
- Essential liberty - S - 6/8/2004 1:59:16 AM
- Friedman on Freedom - RobVG - 6/7/2004 4:26:58 PM
  - Friedman is nothing, if not consistent....... - Publius - 6/8/2004 1:30:32 PM
  - re: Friedman on Freedom - Daniel L - 6/7/2004 4:38:49 PM
    - There are two wars, the one in Iraq and the one on terrorism. - RobVG - 6/7/2004 4:54:27 PM
      - some would disagree - Daniel L - 6/8/2004 1:14:52 AM
      - re: Two Major Problems To Solve - Success_Machine - 6/7/2004 9:53:21 PM
        
        re: ... in a useful way (clarification) - Success_Machine - 6/8/2004 1:10:41 AM

The quagmire continues - Donald - 6/8/2004 1:04:25 PM

Claim: Industries adding jobs pay 21% less than industries cutting jobs. - Bowser - 6/5/2004 2:16:19 PM
- re: Alot of them probably just pay minimum wage - Success_Machine - 6/8/2004 11:17:38 AM
- Don't ignore..... - Publius - 6/6/2004 2:43:36 PM

Bush's Erratic Behavior Worries White House Aides - Derek - 6/6/2004 6:57:15 PM
- Ummm, read home page of the source. - ebnelson - 6/7/2004 2:02:24 AM
  - Hmmm? Ya lost me. (n/t) - Tony - 6/7/2004 2:45:47 PM
    - The website is about as serious as the 'Onion' (n/t) - ebnelson - 6/8/2004 2:25:31 AM
- Erratic Behavior - Tom Brosz - 6/6/2004 11:05:54 PM
  - "Unnamed Sources"....... - Lindy - 6/7/2004 12:53:38 AM
    - re: "Unnamed Sources"....... - Tom Brosz - 6/7/2004 3:04:50 AM
- Why Should Anyone Be Surprised? - Lindy - 6/6/2004 9:02:58 PM
  - Suspicions. - Bowser - 6/7/2004 2:48:25 PM

Commander says Sadr militia defeated - Tom Brosz - 6/6/2004 6:12:12 AM
- Its the only possible outcome - Donald - 6/6/2004 2:58:38 PM
  - re: Its the only possible outcome - gbaikie - 6/7/2004 9:37:56 AM
  - Except - The mission was to capture the guy and put him on trial. - Bowser - 6/6/2004 6:57:16 PM
  - In the meantime... - Donald - 6/6/2004 5:55:29 PM
    - You're forgetting key hard facts - E.P. Grondine - 6/7/2004 4:03:40 AM
- al Sadr was pro-Iranian. By walking the fine line of patiently wearing his supporters out, Bush and Iraq won. - ebnelson - 6/6/2004 2:55:04 PM
- "Beginning of the end", and "victory". - Bowser - 6/6/2004 12:11:17 PM
  - Consistent Republican policy, as ........... - Publius - 6/6/2004 2:18:29 PM
  - We had no concept of "ownership" of Iraq. - David F Mayer - 6/6/2004 1:04:27 PM
    - There is absolutely no outcome in Iraq that will be considered a success by the Left. - Tom Brosz - 6/6/2004 10:25:14 PM
      - That's the definition of a quagmire. - Bowser - 6/7/2004 3:48:19 AM
        
        No, that is simply evidence of the intellectual dishonesty of the left. (n/t) - ebnelson - 6/7/2004 1:59:41 PM
    - Now that is a new one. - Bowser - 6/6/2004 2:48:03 PM
    - You are right, no concept, no legitimate reason, no plan, no clue..... (n/t) - Publius - 6/6/2004 2:14:16 PM
      - Office of "Special Plans" - E.P. Grondine - 6/6/2004 8:04:29 PM

Another five troops... - Jack Herer - 6/4/2004 6:58:54 PM
- 824 - Donald - 6/4/2004 11:01:02 PM
  - Meanwhile: Pope Denounces Bush - Donald - 6/5/2004 12:01:31 AM
    - Interesting how these comments are interpreted... - Tom Brosz - 6/5/2004 5:33:20 PM
    - The Pope might want to show a bit of humility when it comes to the subject of abuse committed by a small percentage of one's people. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 6/5/2004 12:43:06 AM
      - YOU might want to show a bit of humility when it comes to the subject of abuse - Lindy - 6/5/2004 4:43:28 PM
        
        I have a lot of respect for this Pope - Tom Brosz - 6/5/2004 5:19:32 PM
      - re: Abuses or unprovoked invasion - Raoul - 6/5/2004 10:17:26 AM
        
        Calling America's ending of the war with iraq 'unprovoked' is an abuse of - ebnelson - 6/5/2004 7:03:17 PM
        
        re: 13 years and UN - Raoul - 6/5/2004 7:24:04 PM
        
        Excuse me. but you have ommited key facts - E.P. Grondine - 6/7/2004 3:50:40 AM
        
        I am fond of quoting................... - Publius - 6/6/2004 4:06:42 AM
        
        My hope that the left will attain some small level of common sense is undiminished (n/t) - ebnelson - 6/6/2004 2:59:15 PM
        
        Sanctions he never complied with, resolutions he violated - ebnelson - 6/5/2004 11:23:59 PM
        
        re:Never to the point that it became a threat to the world (n/t) - Raoul - 6/6/2004 7:31:51 AM
        
        Are you in favor waiting until they are? (n/t) - ebnelson - 6/6/2004 2:58:03 PM
        
        Sure. Why not? - Tom Brosz - 6/7/2004 12:15:12 AM
        
        Belgian strategery - ebnelson - 6/7/2004 2:08:05 AM
      - Bottom of the barrel? (n/t) - alcaray - 6/5/2004 1:31:02 AM

Reuters doesn't wait long to take a shot at Reagan. - Tom Brosz - 6/6/2004 11:22:12 PM

Disturbing alliances in Britain - Tom Brosz - 6/6/2004 12:19:34 AM
- re: Disturbing ............. - Publius - 6/6/2004 3:50:53 AM
  - re: Disturbing ............. - Tom Brosz - 6/6/2004 4:26:38 AM
    - this reinforces your point that.... - Publius - 6/6/2004 2:31:54 PM
    - The former Marxist terrorist Carlos the Jackal should be converted into fertilizer. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 6/6/2004 5:51:53 AM
      - Carlos the Jackal as fertilizer? - Lindy - 6/6/2004 5:53:04 PM

15th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre - Tom Brosz - 6/4/2004 3:44:16 PM
- Tens of thousands demonstrate in Hong Kong to mark Tiananmen anniversary - Sigmond - 6/4/2004 8:41:20 PM
  - North Korea bans mobile phones - Sigmond - 6/4/2004 8:43:17 PM
- Don'tcha think that right now we have our own massacres with which to deal? - Bowser - 6/4/2004 6:56:08 PM
  - Name 'em (n/t) - ebnelson - 6/5/2004 11:39:06 PM
    - Didn't think you could. (n/t) - ebnelson - 6/6/2004 5:13:40 PM
  - You must have known that was asinine the second you hit the post button. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 6/4/2004 10:33:35 PM
    - How could you ever think that? - Bowser - 6/5/2004 12:48:03 AM
      - re: How could you ever think that? - Tom Brosz - 6/5/2004 6:00:32 PM
  - massacres? Here's massacres - FrankC - 6/4/2004 8:55:13 PM
    - Even the devil quotes scripture (n/t) - ebnelson - 6/5/2004 11:40:49 PM
- Tried to post this at DemocraticUnderground... - Tom Brosz - 6/4/2004 4:04:32 PM
  - Sorta like trying to drag a turd into a fine restaurant, isn't it. - Bowser - 6/4/2004 6:58:54 PM
    - just a reminder...... - Publius - 6/6/2004 4:20:01 AM
      - re: just a reminder...... - Tom Brosz - 6/6/2004 4:37:04 AM
        
        re: just a reminder...... - Publius - 6/6/2004 2:59:09 PM
    - Yeah. DemocraticUnderground, the epitome of high class. - Tom Brosz - 6/4/2004 10:37:40 PM
  - HZ - Daniel L - 6/4/2004 5:13:57 PM

D-Day - Raoul - 6/5/2004 7:14:21 PM
- re: D-Day - Publius - 6/6/2004 3:21:00 PM

The crux of the argument - FrankC - 6/2/2004 9:48:18 PM
- is the Israeli-Palestinian dispute - E.P. Grondine - 6/3/2004 2:11:46 AM
  - That is not the "sole" problem - Buck Galaxy - 6/4/2004 5:27:02 AM
    - re: That is not the "sole" problem - Tom Brosz - 6/4/2004 5:28:42 PM
    - Yes it is - E.P. Grondine - 6/4/2004 3:19:32 PM
  - Wrong. The Islamic Arabs would hate the USA regardless. - David F Mayer - 6/3/2004 11:34:28 PM
    - Don't lose sight that Iranians are not Arabs, and they hate us, as do the Tamal Tigers, etc. - Publius - 6/6/2004 3:13:10 PM
    - They didn't hate us before Israel's expansion - E.P. Grondine - 6/4/2004 3:37:35 PM
      - Really? Then why were the Arabs allied to the Nazis during WW2? - David F Mayer - 6/6/2004 1:15:50 PM
  - You might be right - FrankC - 6/3/2004 4:48:30 AM
    - You're certainly wrong - E.P. Grondine - 6/3/2004 1:28:32 PM
- re: Cause & Effect - Success_Machine - 6/2/2004 10:28:08 PM
  - They are a cradle to grave welfare state - FrankC - 6/2/2004 11:35:45 PM
    - re: Well Shit. There You Go. Now Let's Solve This F%$$Ing Problem Before Someone Lights Off a Nuclear Bomb Somewhere. - Success_Machine - 6/2/2004 11:53:46 PM
      - re: Unbelievable!!! Three Years of War Because Saudi Arabia Has a 30 Percent Unemployment Rate and 23 percent foreign workers - Success_Machine - 6/3/2004 1:21:24 AM

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