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Good article on WMD in Iraq - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2003 3:48:28 AM
- sickening - McFly - 9/29/2003 3:44:37 PM
  - re: sickening - FrankC - 9/29/2003 6:23:34 PM
  - Thanks McFly - Lindy - 9/29/2003 4:26:10 PM
    - re: Crooked nails don't build anything . . . (n/t) - D. Spires - 9/29/2003 7:07:41 PM
      - Only takes a little care to straighten a nail (n/t) - alcaray - 9/29/2003 10:13:37 PM
        
        re: Okay -- sickening . . . - D. Spires - 9/29/2003 10:22:56 PM
        
        It was your analogy (n/t) - alcaray - 9/29/2003 11:41:15 PM
        
        re: And I straightened McFly's nail for you . . . (n/t) - D. Spires - 9/30/2003 12:23:19 AM
        
        Oohh...bet that smarted. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/30/2003 3:41:50 AM
        
        I'm just glad the initial analogy didn't involve the turning of a screw... (n/t) - McFly - 9/30/2003 8:19:04 PM
- Entirely plausible - Don - 9/29/2003 1:43:38 PM
  - Consensus to support regime change?? - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2003 6:25:48 PM
  - If I may inject a small point here, guys... - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2003 6:20:59 PM
- P.S. - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2003 3:50:53 AM
  - re: Or . . . - D. Spires - 9/29/2003 7:06:20 PM
    - re: Or..like a poker game . . . - Raoul - 9/29/2003 8:45:45 PM
      - re: Raoul, I'm not going to cry over spilled cards . . . - D. Spires - 9/29/2003 9:37:13 PM

Don't like Doonsbury? I DON'T CARE! - LJ - 9/30/2003 4:16:58 PM
- Grrr - having trouble with links today... - LJ - 9/30/2003 4:21:03 PM
  - Now what? last try... - LJ - 9/30/2003 4:24:56 PM
    - I can't give up - second strip by itself - LJ - 9/30/2003 4:27:28 PM
      - What the... link all by itself - sorry about this, I'm obsessed now - LJ - 9/30/2003 4:29:45 PM
        
        starting from scratch... going nuts... Robert please clean this mess up! - LJ - 9/30/2003 4:32:42 PM

Tenet gets even - Lindy - 9/29/2003 6:17:22 AM
- Its nice how quickly the conspiracy changes: First it was Rove...Now its Tenant... - Scott Evil - 9/29/2003 10:36:53 PM
  - Speaking of "stupid"........ - Lindy - 9/30/2003 5:54:56 AM
    - Lindy the whole affair is so far beyond your cognative ability... - Scott Evil - 9/30/2003 4:28:05 PM
- Has anyone heard why Wilson thinks that Rove was behind it? - alcaray - 9/29/2003 6:18:13 PM
  - Maybe because Wilson is a political hack who is still working for the Clintons? - Scott Evil - 9/29/2003 10:31:52 PM
  - I think he would know who his enemies are...... - Lindy - 9/29/2003 8:16:08 PM
  - Again, it's amazing how flexible standards of evidence are around here. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2003 6:38:50 PM
    - I was asking to hear what evidence existed. - alcaray - 9/29/2003 8:52:28 PM
      - Woops. I see you provided some links above. (n/t) - alcaray - 9/29/2003 8:57:58 PM
        
        It's okay, this stuff is scattered all over the board. I think I'm missing stuff too. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2003 11:19:14 PM
    - It's amazing how FACTS are ignored around here....n/t (n/t) - Lindy - 9/29/2003 8:18:51 PM
      - Fact: Wilson has backtracked on his accusation of Rowe. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2003 8:36:42 PM

Iraq in decompression - Tom Brosz - 9/30/2003 4:05:15 AM
- Closure on Saddam - ebnelson - 9/30/2003 1:01:21 PM

Davis loses momentum - aka he's Doomed! - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/30/2003 5:56:33 AM

Reuters--yes, Reuters--attempts to write some good news from Iraq - Tom Brosz - 9/30/2003 4:40:45 AM

On Wednesday, it will be five months... - Tom Brosz - 9/30/2003 4:21:41 AM

Davis Doomed - Schwarzenegger Posed to Terminate his Term - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/28/2003 9:22:07 PM
- I'm still voting for McClintock. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2003 3:51:52 AM
  - One has to vote one's conscience - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/29/2003 7:29:35 PM
    - That's what primaries are for. - Lee - 9/30/2003 4:18:03 AM
- CA, NY, FL, TX - FrankC - 9/28/2003 10:24:52 PM
  - Oh, and I forgot - FrankC - 9/28/2003 10:27:30 PM
- "Posed": what an excellent choice of verb! - Mary Anne - 9/28/2003 9:29:55 PM
  - I've used it twice now..in lieu of poised... - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/29/2003 12:10:23 AM
  - re: "Posed": what an excellent choice of verb! - gbaikie - 9/29/2003 12:07:21 AM

This plus the fact that Wilson has beenvery outspoken against Bush for sometime means it is likely just another bunch of hype - ebnelson - 9/30/2003 3:18:17 AM

Rebuilding Iraq - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2003 11:25:25 PM

California Voters Say Yes to Recall, Schwarzenegger in New Poll . . . - D. Spires - 9/29/2003 8:28:31 PM
- It's going to get rough for Arnold - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2003 8:56:50 PM
  - re: It's going to get rough in office for him . . . - D. Spires - 9/29/2003 9:41:31 PM

Do-Not-Call Listing Remains Up in Air After Day of Twists . . . - D. Spires - 9/26/2003 9:55:58 PM
- Devil's advocate - FrankC - 9/27/2003 3:17:57 AM
  - re: Please define 'public forum' . . . - D. Spires - 9/28/2003 7:45:35 PM
    - As advocate for the devil - FrankC - 9/28/2003 8:56:37 PM
      - re: Not entirely so . . . - D. Spires - 9/28/2003 10:44:12 PM
        
        No Solicitation signs iffy - FrankC - 9/29/2003 8:30:38 PM
        
        re: C'mon -- still quitting . . . ? - D. Spires - 9/29/2003 9:23:26 PM
      - Private numbers - Mary Anne - 9/28/2003 10:07:07 PM
        
        Right - FrankC - 9/28/2003 10:58:59 PM
  - Another approach - Mary Anne - 9/28/2003 12:08:47 AM
- Question: - Tom Brosz - 9/26/2003 11:43:25 PM
  - re: Contrary to popular belief -- in some circles -- answering the phone does not kill . . . - D. Spires - 9/27/2003 12:42:05 AM

TIME: Where Are Saddam's WMD? - Don - 9/27/2003 1:57:13 PM
- 66,300 google hits on Kennedy assassination - FrankC - 9/28/2003 5:24:28 AM
  - You can't wish this away Frank - Lindy - 9/28/2003 7:21:38 AM
    - Search for the smoking gun - FrankC - 9/28/2003 6:38:56 PM
    - Right...and you, Don, and others here wish THIS away: - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/28/2003 1:48:56 PM
      - Don't have to - Fox - 9/28/2003 2:30:03 PM
        
        re: Don't have to - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2003 4:58:56 AM
- Meanwhile: CIA seeks probe of White House - Don - 9/27/2003 2:02:49 PM
  - the story of the year - Greg - 9/27/2003 2:31:18 PM
    - Tacitus on this - Greg - 9/27/2003 3:17:48 PM
      - Wow! Maybe THIS time you can hang something on Bush! Twelfth time's the charm... (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/28/2003 3:34:52 AM
        
        So it doesn't bother you they may have broken the law. I see (n/t) - Greg - 9/28/2003 7:04:11 AM
        
        Might not hurt to wait until some actual evidence shows up... - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2003 4:34:51 AM
        
        re: Might not hurt to wait until some actual evidence shows up... - Greg - 9/29/2003 7:23:05 AM
        
        "So if they had committed felonies that would bother you" - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2003 6:59:57 PM
        
        I don't think you do see - FrankC - 9/29/2003 12:05:20 AM
        
        gotcha politics - Greg - 9/29/2003 2:12:37 AM
  - Parents of GI casualties in Iraq protest Bush - Don - 9/27/2003 2:10:19 PM
    - Moveon.org - Tom Brosz - 9/28/2003 3:42:20 AM
    - The thing I have learned from all this... - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/27/2003 6:39:06 PM
      - Speaking as the granddaughter of one of those baaaad 1930s people... - Mary Anne - 9/27/2003 11:23:14 PM
        
        re: Speaking as the granddaughter of one of those baaaad 1930s people... - SDAi-Tech1 - 9/28/2003 2:06:59 PM
        
        You ought to get more sleep before you reply to something that annoys you. - Mary Anne - 9/28/2003 3:28:45 PM
        
        re: You ought to get more sleep before you reply to something that annoys you. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/28/2003 11:56:02 PM
        
        I have to get up in the morning, but... - Mary Anne - 9/29/2003 2:31:49 AM
        
        re: I have to get up in the morning, but... - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/29/2003 9:12:23 PM
        
        I really don't want to poke into this particular exchange, but... - Tom - 9/29/2003 4:50:10 AM
        
        My last name disappeared! (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2003 4:52:10 AM
        
        Ouch! - Don - 9/28/2003 1:16:00 AM
        
        Thanks - Mary Anne - 9/28/2003 3:35:30 PM
      - History has been too gentle on many of the 1930's era people (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/27/2003 10:41:34 PM
    - "They [the Bush admin.] have failed all of us." - That's the understatement of the century and bound for the history books. (n/t) - Jason - 9/27/2003 2:47:42 PM

U.S. Troops Battle Fighters Near Baghdad . . . - D. Spires - 9/29/2003 8:04:26 PM

Iraq's WMDs: Chasing a mirage - Don - 9/29/2003 1:19:09 PM
- Same article I posted a bit earlier - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2003 6:33:48 PM
- Meanwhile: U.S. Soldier Killed by Guerrillas West of Baghdad - Don - 9/29/2003 2:23:39 PM
  - And: Powell Gives Up Hope for Indian Troops - Don - 9/29/2003 2:29:59 PM

Vice President Halliburton - Greg - 9/28/2003 6:50:51 AM
- Haliburton - Lindy - 9/28/2003 6:44:42 PM
  - re: Haliburton - Lindy - 9/29/2003 4:31:57 PM
  - re: Haliburton - Greg - 9/29/2003 2:47:51 AM
    - re: Haliburton - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2003 4:10:29 AM
      - re: Haliburton - Greg - 9/29/2003 7:21:08 AM

reactions to Wilsongate from the right - Greg - 9/29/2003 4:23:44 AM
- Finally... - Don - 9/29/2003 2:20:53 PM
  - re: Finally... - Greg - 9/29/2003 3:35:33 PM
    - Rome burns - Lindy - 9/29/2003 4:09:40 PM

Magnitude 8.5 earthquake rocks Siberia last Saturday 9/27 - Jason - 9/29/2003 2:40:05 PM

Pssst...economy still heading upward. - Tom Brosz - 9/26/2003 4:24:57 PM
- The poverty level increase (and income level decrease) is a big story - alcaray - 9/26/2003 4:50:33 PM
  - re: The poverty level increase - Tom Brosz - 9/26/2003 5:01:49 PM
    - Uncle Tom "the Scrooge" Brosz....... - Lindy - 9/27/2003 12:53:44 AM
      - Ah, yes. The "Robin Hood Principle." - Tom Brosz - 9/27/2003 7:29:06 AM
        
        Paying a lot in taxes - Mary Anne - 9/28/2003 1:07:47 AM
        
        re: Paying a lot in taxes - Tom Brosz - 9/28/2003 3:10:03 AM
        
        That list - Mary Anne - 9/28/2003 2:22:38 PM
        
        re: That list - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2003 5:56:07 AM
        
        Tom, you're such a charmer..... - Lindy - 9/27/2003 4:24:11 PM
        
        Lindy, I bet you've never seen anything past a 1040EZ in your life. - Tom Brosz - 9/28/2003 3:14:00 AM
    - I may have read more into your posts than you put there - alcaray - 9/26/2003 6:14:10 PM
      - Communication - Tom Brosz - 9/26/2003 8:20:06 PM
    - I couldn't find the part of the story that was about a mugging. But the victim has my sympathy? (n/t) - alcaray - 9/26/2003 5:07:23 PM
      - re: the victim has my sympathy - Tom Brosz - 9/26/2003 5:35:43 PM

General Clark says he'd relieve Rumsfeld of his command... - Jason - 9/29/2003 2:07:56 AM
- Clark knows a bit about getting relieved of command - ebnelson - 9/29/2003 3:15:45 AM

Air Force Analysts Feel Vindicated on Iraqi Drones - RobVG - 9/28/2003 9:16:36 PM

WHite House "Leakgate" simmers - Don - 9/28/2003 7:57:22 PM

Powell Gives Iraq 6 Months to Write New Constitution . . . - D. Spires - 9/26/2003 9:52:44 PM
- actually. . . - Publius - 9/27/2003 3:42:19 AM
  - re: Possibly . . . - D. Spires - 9/28/2003 7:33:10 PM

Entertainer Donald O'Connor Dies at 78 . . . - D. Spires - 9/28/2003 7:28:13 PM

Finally, some good news - Don - 9/28/2003 2:42:56 PM

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