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re: Would you include sales tax?

Tom Brosz — 3/20/2004 2:58:09 AM (archived)

You make several very good points. I said I didn't have a magic solution for how to raise the franchise bar.

I do know that a system where people can vote money out of other people's pockets is a positive feedback system, and it's not going to end well.

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What the hell do conservatives want? An alternate history project - Robert - 3/17/2004 4:11:02 PM
- Points of divergence... - Tom Brosz - 3/20/2004 3:06:11 AM
  - Wikipedia's take on it - Tom Brosz - 3/20/2004 3:17:21 AM
    - The alternative history of L. Neil Smith's "Probability Broach" - Tom Brosz - 3/20/2004 5:20:26 AM
      - Where was I? - Robert - 3/23/2004 2:44:14 AM
        
        BTW - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2004 5:45:53 AM
        
        "Probability Broach" - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2004 5:32:08 AM
        
        re: "Probability Broach" - Robert - 3/23/2004 5:55:19 AM
        
        P.S. - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2004 8:16:12 AM
        
        Some culture stuff... - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2004 8:13:43 AM
- But, but, but - FrankC - 3/18/2004 5:40:33 PM
  - Not bad - Robert - 3/18/2004 6:16:36 PM
    - World Government - FrankC - 3/18/2004 8:38:24 PM
      - A World Government is no guarantee that a global 'civil war' will be averted. - Jacob Samorodin - 3/24/2004 3:23:01 PM
      - re: World Government - Robert - 3/18/2004 10:00:51 PM
      - re: UN - Raoul - 3/18/2004 9:40:27 PM
  - You know, I kinda liked that - tony - 3/18/2004 6:02:47 PM
    - I thought of that... - FrankC - 3/18/2004 7:56:43 PM
- A couple of suggestions. No Social Security, and no Pearl Harbor - Bowser - 3/18/2004 3:58:24 PM
  - The irony of it all - Robert - 3/18/2004 5:27:54 PM
    - Maybe liberals aren't as worried about accuracy and plausibility. - Tom Brosz - 3/19/2004 4:42:58 AM
      - Why write a fictional history in which liberal ideas are ascendent? - Mary Anne - 3/19/2004 5:10:59 PM
        
        re: Why write a fictional history in which liberal ideas are ascendent? - SDG - 3/19/2004 9:37:30 PM
        
        Utopia? I don' want no steenking Utopia! - Mary Anne - 3/20/2004 12:34:25 AM
        
        re: Utopia? I don' want no steenking Utopia! - SDG - 3/23/2004 3:38:11 PM
        
        Utopia is literally "Nowhere" - Larry J - 3/23/2004 10:19:12 PM
    - Ah, screw him. - Bowser - 3/18/2004 5:50:19 PM
      - And the horse I rode in on! - alcaray - 3/18/2004 7:26:41 PM
        
        Looked more like a burro. And us typing dogs prefer "anomaly" to "freak". (n/t) - Bowser - 3/18/2004 7:49:36 PM
        
        Well, the burros are a little cuter (n/t) - alcaray - 3/18/2004 10:22:51 PM
        
        That's funny! Score a couple for yourself. And not burros. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/18/2004 10:40:29 PM
      - Low probability branches - Robert - 3/18/2004 6:30:16 PM
        
        re: Low probability branches - Bowser - 3/18/2004 6:43:25 PM
        
        re: Low probability branches - Robert - 3/18/2004 7:05:14 PM
        
        Documentation. - Bowser - 3/18/2004 7:42:52 PM
        
        Wow - Robert - 3/19/2004 3:24:47 AM
        
        Invasion of Cuba - SDG - 3/19/2004 4:48:56 AM
        
        another question about that order - SDG - 3/19/2004 12:32:20 AM
        
        Nukes against an amphibious landing in Cuba? - Tom Brosz - 3/19/2004 4:49:36 AM
        
        re: Nukes against an amphibious landing in Cuba? - SDG - 3/19/2004 5:13:20 AM
        
        I'm not sure. - Bowser - 3/19/2004 12:52:31 AM
        
        more info - SDG - 3/19/2004 12:45:36 AM
        
        That makes more sense. - Bowser - 3/19/2004 5:39:22 AM
        
        re: Documentation. - SDG - 3/18/2004 9:52:32 PM
        
        My suspicions. - Bowser - 3/18/2004 10:57:56 PM
        
        very good points - SDG - 3/18/2004 11:55:13 PM
        
        Sure. - Bowser - 3/19/2004 12:41:37 AM
        
        re: Sure. - SDG - 3/19/2004 1:22:08 AM
        
        And the most important part. - Bowser - 3/18/2004 8:02:44 PM
    - What the hell do liberals want? Let's turn it around.. - FrankC - 3/18/2004 5:47:29 PM
      - your turn first (n/t) - alcaray - 3/18/2004 6:27:02 PM
      - Nah - Robert - 3/18/2004 6:04:17 PM
- This is what I think you're proposing. - Mary Anne - 3/18/2004 12:22:09 AM
  - Duh. It's been a long day. - Mary Anne - 3/18/2004 12:24:34 AM
    - Sigh - Robert - 3/18/2004 3:52:37 AM
      - re: Sigh - SDG - 3/18/2004 3:38:44 PM
        
        "To rewrite 70 years of history is a hell of a lot to ask." - Tom Brosz - 3/19/2004 4:57:00 AM
        
        re: Sigh - Robert - 3/18/2004 5:30:43 PM
- ( A hint for 'em.) Tony Blair would be speaking German. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/17/2004 11:50:14 PM
- re: What the hell do conservatives want? An alternate history project - mclute - 3/17/2004 11:00:07 PM
  - rewriting history - Robert - 3/17/2004 11:26:25 PM
    - re: rewriting history - SDG - 3/18/2004 1:02:31 AM
      - re: rewriting history - Robert - 3/18/2004 6:40:27 PM
- Not gonna happen: Conservatives have no imagination. - alcaray - 3/17/2004 7:38:44 PM
  - Not helpful. This is their game. (n/t) - Robert - 3/17/2004 10:20:38 PM
- I wish I was that good - Tom Brosz - 3/17/2004 7:04:40 PM
  - Have faith - Robert - 3/17/2004 10:18:27 PM
    - I'm so damned tired.... - Tom Brosz - 3/18/2004 1:40:18 AM
      - Aren't we all - Robert - 3/18/2004 3:54:28 PM
        
        Utopia - Tom Brosz - 3/19/2004 6:07:27 AM
      - Understand: tired - Mary Anne - 3/18/2004 2:24:45 AM
        
        A few data points - Larry J - 3/18/2004 2:48:29 PM
        
        Thanks - Robert - 3/18/2004 5:42:32 PM
        
        And... - Larry J - 3/18/2004 7:38:40 PM
        
        Thanks 2.0 - Robert - 3/18/2004 9:44:38 PM
        
        I don't know if Hoover could've ended the Depression - Larry J - 3/19/2004 4:19:58 PM
        
        The subject is conservatives, not Republicans. - Mary Anne - 3/18/2004 3:44:18 PM
        
        The terms conservative and liberal have almost lost their meaning - Larry J - 3/18/2004 7:52:00 PM
        
        Definitions in context - Robert - 3/19/2004 3:35:11 AM
        
        Voting - Tom Brosz - 3/19/2004 6:47:52 AM
        
        re: Voting - Robert - 3/23/2004 9:04:52 PM
        
        Ideally, you're right. - Tom Brosz - 3/24/2004 7:20:19 AM
        
        Would you include sales tax? - Mary Anne - 3/19/2004 5:50:44 PM
        
        re: Would you include sales tax? - Tom Brosz - 3/20/2004 2:58:09 AM
        
        I cant remember a time when liberal wasnt a secret code-word for communist (n/t) - alcaray - 3/18/2004 10:20:55 PM
        
        Likewise, I keep hearing some declare conservatives are Nazis - Larry J - 3/19/2004 5:48:28 PM
        
        Not much of a secret, though, was it? - Robert - 3/19/2004 3:48:16 AM
        
        re: tired - Tom Brosz - 3/18/2004 5:57:30 AM
        
        re: infinite forks - alcaray - 3/18/2004 7:05:43 PM
        
        A definition from Heinlein's "Notebooks" - Tom Brosz - 3/18/2004 6:01:50 AM
        
        Heinlein and me, and stuff - Mary Anne - 3/18/2004 2:08:37 PM
        
        re: stuff - Tom Brosz - 3/19/2004 7:19:01 AM
- There seems to have been a "Publius" back there. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/17/2004 6:08:56 PM
- A problem - FrankC - 3/17/2004 6:00:56 PM
  - A hypothetical exercize - Robert - 3/17/2004 6:53:41 PM
- I'll go, if someone will lead. - Mary Anne - 3/17/2004 5:27:37 PM

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