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creation as artifact
Daniel — (archived)

That is a good way to argue and define your position - however I really don't know how to properly discuss it at this stage. From that angle, we must also be 'artifacts', however at the same time we are explicitly defined (in some traditions anyway) as partners with God in an ongoing process of creation - humans having the transcendent ability to transform nature, and also their own psychology if they wish. This goes far beyond birds using tools and the like, it goes into mathematics, art, engineering etc .. So how can we be both artifacts and active, creative observers? .. Fascinating.

If you asked me your question at a party I would have to answer, yes I believe the universe is artifact but I wouldn't rely on the 'intelligent design' theory, which can't prove anything really. Most people don't have the time or inclination to get into this stuff deeply and clearly, hence your frustration in discussions of theology ..

I'm not saying I can do much better but maybe over time we'll be able to clarify some questions in threads like this.

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