First, one has to be aware that religious beliefs of the Judeo-Christian and Muslim variety are superstition.
Second, one has to be aware that the minds which can hold those beliefs in the face of all evidence are not amenable to reason on those topics. "God said it, I believe it, that settles it!"
Third, this is a cruel God, one who will destroy innocent people as an example to the guilty. Sort of like Bush invading Iraq.
Now add an almost all-powerful Satan, who can create havoc at random.
If implored properly, in the right manner, the magical, mystical God may, just may, overrule Satan in individual instances.
That the people who do not implore God are saved in the same proportion does not matter. What matters are the ones which do.
It's not a matter of reason, logic, or God-given intelligence. It is a matter of anxious, fearful minds trying to create order out of chaos, trying to create a sense of security no matter how false in order to deal with the randomness of the world.
Egos want to feel important, that there is a Divine Purpose for them, a Father who will take care of them. It's much easier than standing on one's own, realizing that you aren't very important, that the world will go on without you very well, and your circumstances are of no matter except to you in your vainglory.
I used to do a lecture where I'd ask the audience to close their eyes and imagine that I had disappeared. I'd aske them to imagine that in mid-sentence I'd disappeared, vanished, no trace, no sound, no nothing.
I'd ask them to open their eyes. I told them that I'd bet about half of them wondered how I did it, and the other half wondered if they could go home. The laughter told me I was right.
And, I added, by tomorrow you'll have forgotten I existed except as a neat story to tell - "I was there when this guy - - - ".
That realization is a bit more than most religious people can handle.
We all have to give our own lives meaning, and purpose, and all we get is the experience. It's the most liberating attitude one can have, though those that can't understand will say the opposite.
Arf
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Premises
The whole thread (136 posts)
- Survivor of the tornado
- re: This has been a great post Art! (n/t)
- I'm with you Art
- The insignificance of humanity
- re: Insignificant by WHOM?
- Yeah, but who created that telescope, that satellite; and who's doing the looking?
- The burden of proof
- Not really!
- Not really!
- re: The burden of proof
- re: The burden of proof
- Great Response, Daniel!! (n/t)
- The burden of proof
- Hubble image (fairly large)
- You can call Humanity many things, but unimportant is not one of them.
- But we are unimportant, insignificant!
- re: But we are unimportant, insignificant!
- I disagree
- We cannot claim "intelligence" is the summum of the universe
- Without intelligence, the Universe may as well not even exist.
- re:Maybe we are unimportant per se...but we are worthwhile (n/t)
- We can claim "intelligence" is rare in this universe
- We cannot claim "intelligence" is the summum of the universe
- Humanity is the proverbial mustard seed.
- But we are unimportant, insignificant!
- Cosmic Unimportance
- re: I'm with you Art
- The insignificance of humanity
- re: The natural world....
- I think it comes down to an issue of tollerance Art.
- re: Survivor of the tornado
- re: Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
- Reaping the Whirlwind
- " We simply have to walk around like zombies and love the cosmic practical joker. "
- Premises
- Jesus still loves you. =) (n/t)
- Somebody thanks God for surviving a terrible event and you go bizerk.
- re: I used to feel the way you do Art.
- Tell ya what...
