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Republicans can't resist. Play the race card, scaring whites. - Bowser - 10/28/2006 5:13:26 AM
- Interpretations. - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/29/2006 5:11:47 AM
- Do a Google search on the Ford family in Tennessee. - Lee - 10/28/2006 6:59:17 AM
- A bit of a stretch, even Ford said so. - RobVG - 10/28/2006 6:37:21 AM
  - And they didn't use a black actress. None available? - Bowser - 10/28/2006 12:43:40 PM
    - Just because she's white, that implies racism? - RobVG - 10/28/2006 4:51:29 PM
      - Y'see, black men and white women have always been a trigger in the South. - Bowser - 10/28/2006 9:51:18 PM
        
        Much more so in the past than now. - ER - 10/28/2006 11:31:16 PM
        
        Well, if the good people from Tennessee are that racist... - RobVG - 10/29/2006 12:55:53 AM
        
        Spare me the sarcasm - ER - 10/29/2006 1:44:39 AM
        
        "Kick in the gut?" - TB - 10/29/2006 3:08:06 AM
        
        It occurred to me. The minute I saw it. (n/t) - ER - 10/29/2006 3:15:25 AM
        
        Racism is dead in the US? We need the Fantasy Board. - Bowser - 10/29/2006 3:12:56 AM
        
        Look up the campaign laws. You really don't know what you're talking about. (n/t) - TB - 10/29/2006 3:29:36 AM
        
        Heh, heh. More fantasy. - Bowser - 10/29/2006 3:41:27 AM
        
        Willy Horton - GHWB (n/t) - Bowser - 10/29/2006 12:59:47 AM
        
        Horton Ad - RobVG - 10/29/2006 1:35:22 AM
        
        Most people didn't know Horton was black until your side pointed it out. (n/t) - RobVG - 10/29/2006 1:26:19 AM
- Racism? Get real. - TB - 10/28/2006 6:25:03 AM
  - Been real, done that - ER - 10/28/2006 1:10:25 PM
    - Where was all the indignation here... - TB - 10/28/2006 8:25:40 PM
      - Who's Allen? Is he Jewish? - ER - 10/28/2006 9:35:07 PM

What an... - Donald - 10/25/2006 12:31:49 PM
- Fox on CBS - RobVG - 10/27/2006 5:25:20 AM
  - Very good interview. And an apology. - TB - 10/27/2006 8:02:10 AM
    - *smile* - Mary Anne - 10/28/2006 12:39:39 AM
    - Thanks for that, Tom - Laurie Street - 10/27/2006 11:53:24 PM
    - Very good post all round (n/t) - Tony - 10/27/2006 1:23:11 PM
- Point man - ER - 10/26/2006 6:02:49 PM
- I didn't like it either. - REB - 10/26/2006 12:08:13 PM
- And a response. - et - 10/25/2006 8:58:36 PM
- I heard the actual broadcast. Did you? (n/t) - TB - 10/25/2006 5:24:12 PM
  - Piling on - Tony - 10/26/2006 12:24:54 PM
    - re: Piling on - TB - 10/26/2006 4:20:04 PM
      - And even with that, he still wasn't frakking acting? - Tony - 10/26/2006 5:13:36 PM
        
        Huh? (n/t) - TB - 10/26/2006 5:18:13 PM
        
        You dont get, likely never will. I give up. (n/t) - Tony - 10/26/2006 7:30:24 PM
        
        Fox has Parkinsons, why should the commercial be shot to depict him as if he didn't? (n/t) - SDG - 10/26/2006 6:04:36 PM
        
        Then you concede the point that it was deliberate. - TB - 10/26/2006 6:18:19 PM
        
        Spelling it out for you - Yeti - 10/27/2006 4:34:38 AM
        
        It wouldn't bother me if it was - SDG - 10/26/2006 7:26:40 PM
        
        re: It wouldn't bother me if it was - TB - 10/27/2006 2:44:44 AM
        
        Tom,,, - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/26/2006 7:13:12 PM
        
        speaking of going off one's meds... (n/t) - alcaray - 10/26/2006 10:52:49 PM
  - Only a real jerk... - Donald - 10/25/2006 11:41:13 PM
  - Here ya go... dittohead - HOW MUCH ARE YOU WILLING TO DEFEND?! - 10/25/2006 8:56:14 PM
  - yep. I heard a full recording - Yeti - 10/25/2006 8:54:57 PM
    - Fox has admitted to going off his medications before presentations. - TB - 10/26/2006 4:04:31 AM
      - Do you have any idea what Parkinsons medication des to a person? - Yeti - 10/26/2006 6:07:37 AM
        
        Is this the "how DARE you pick on a Victim?" bit? - TB - 10/26/2006 6:22:58 AM
        
        No- its the 'you're being an insensitive prick' bit - Yeti - 10/27/2006 4:41:09 AM
        
        re: No - TB - 10/27/2006 6:41:07 AM
        
        re: No- more ignorance. - Yeti - 10/27/2006 2:27:02 PM
        
        BTW, had not yet red the post above. (n/t) - Yeti - 10/27/2006 2:32:24 PM
        
        No problem. - TB - 10/27/2006 11:18:05 PM
        
        I think this is the "shoot the messenger" bit. But dont blame me... (n/t) - Tony - 10/26/2006 3:51:33 PM
        
        No, this is the "you don't know anything about how Parkinson's medications work" bit. - Mary Anne - 10/26/2006 2:53:35 PM
        
        Irrelevant. - TB - 10/26/2006 4:24:39 PM
        
        re: Insane - Yeti - 10/27/2006 4:44:38 AM
        
        The disease is the point. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 10/26/2006 9:03:46 PM
        
        this is the "repeat the NRO Corner position" - Tony - 10/26/2006 3:57:03 PM
      - Why should we listen to Michael J. Fox anyway? - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/26/2006 5:20:37 AM
        
        As a baiter, Techie, you are a master. (n/t) - Laurie Street - 10/26/2006 10:09:15 PM
        
        Hmmm. I do seem to arouse folks don't I? (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/26/2006 10:27:46 PM
        
        Why should we listen to *you*? - Mary Anne - 10/26/2006 2:30:07 PM
        
        "You speak for Planet Tech. In a universe far, far away" - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/26/2006 6:42:38 PM
        
        Michael J. Fox convincingly played a likeable conservative. - Mary Anne - 10/27/2006 1:22:26 AM
        
        He is obviously a superb actor. (n/t) - ER - 10/28/2006 3:25:32 PM
        
        Agreed. - TB - 10/28/2006 8:37:59 PM
        
        Spin City - ER - 10/28/2006 9:39:45 PM
        
        re: Spin City - TB - 10/29/2006 3:02:20 AM
  - Media Matters has the audio clip. - et - 10/25/2006 8:49:10 PM
  - So he didn't say "'either off his medication or acting'' ? - Tony - 10/25/2006 7:58:51 PM
  - Say it ain't so! (n/t) - Bowser - 10/25/2006 5:56:28 PM
- "Purely an act"....look who's talking - Lindy - 10/25/2006 4:31:45 PM
- The gerbil merchant - ER - 10/25/2006 1:19:24 PM
  - Interesting points. - Bowser - 10/25/2006 3:56:46 PM

Who REALLY is behind the Iraqi insurgency? - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/28/2006 11:28:37 PM

One of the GWB legacies - "GAO Chief Warns Economic Disaster Looms" - Bowser - 10/28/2006 11:03:02 PM

Rove: U.S. can't leave one of the world's largest oil reserves in terrorist hands - Eric - 10/28/2006 2:05:28 PM
- re: Ridiculous!!! - Raoul - 10/28/2006 5:27:12 PM
- "...or we will leave to them a world with a hateful empire centered in the Middle East." - ER - 10/28/2006 4:05:10 PM
  - And your plan for putting Humpty Dumpty back together again? (n/t) - Bowser - 10/28/2006 7:36:05 PM
    - Ain't got one. It's time to bring the boys home. (n/t) - ER - 10/28/2006 9:26:46 PM
      - Sorta like standing in front of a freight train, or stepping aside. - Bowser - 10/28/2006 10:08:56 PM
- B) "we will leave to them a world with a hateful empire centered in the Middle East." - Lindy - 10/28/2006 3:14:29 PM
- "- - - leave to them a world with a hateful empire centered in the Middle East." - Bowser - 10/28/2006 3:13:03 PM

uHHH-oHHHHHH..Gas up 4 cents - carl - 10/28/2006 4:14:19 PM
- I'd point out the facts - RNE - 10/28/2006 7:27:42 PM
  - Kinda like global warming. - Bowser - 10/28/2006 9:48:47 PM
  - Thanks R. (n/t) - et - 10/28/2006 9:27:26 PM

"General: 'Mistakes' made in Afghanistan strike" - They're gonna investigate, though. - Bowser - 10/28/2006 1:27:50 PM

Wohhha... Whats with the Democrats trying to put a author who likes to write about pedophilia in the Senate? - Scott Evil - 10/27/2006 4:50:29 PM
- Actually, another non-story. - TB - 10/27/2006 11:12:16 PM
  - re: Actually, another non-story. - MonkeyManYeti - 10/28/2006 5:30:29 AM
    - Better yet, tell me why it's a story. - TB - 10/28/2006 7:00:42 AM

Rumsfeld to war critics - "just back off" - Bowser - 10/27/2006 4:07:20 AM
- What an idiot - Donald - 10/27/2006 2:47:27 PM
- Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld is incompetent beyond measure. - Jack Herer - 10/27/2006 12:21:53 PM
  - re: Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld is incompetent beyond measure. - Lindy - 10/28/2006 3:21:56 AM

How to avoid the US becoming the world's largest banana republic - Randy - 10/23/2006 11:22:31 PM
- Stop electing the world's largest bananas to office - Fox - 10/27/2006 1:42:06 AM
- Term limits: 2 terms and out... Or else run for some other office. - Scott Evil - 10/24/2006 2:14:22 PM
- You forgot rider bills. - Lee - 10/24/2006 3:08:55 AM
- Thank you Randy - Lindy - 10/24/2006 2:24:02 AM
- Yep, you're absolutely right on all counts. - ER - 10/23/2006 11:50:10 PM
  - re: Yep, you're absolutely right on all counts. - Lindy - 10/28/2006 2:08:10 AM
    - The Death Of Dialogue - Randy - 10/28/2006 2:14:42 AM
  - GIS guided districting...interesting idea. (n/t) - podrock - 10/24/2006 1:27:29 AM
    - I've been thinking about that - Robert - 10/24/2006 4:06:01 PM
      - re: I've been thinking about that - Fox - 10/25/2006 5:44:54 PM
        
        No, but I've played Go - Robert - 10/25/2006 7:27:24 PM
      - Aren't we spatial? - ER - 10/24/2006 6:51:59 PM
        
        re: Aren't we spatial? - Robert - 10/24/2006 10:29:42 PM
        
        re: Aren't we spatial? - ER - 10/25/2006 2:05:06 AM
        
        re: Aren't we spatial? Part II - ER - 10/25/2006 2:25:16 AM
        
        We're on the same page - Robert - 10/25/2006 2:36:21 PM
        
        Practical constraints. - ER - 10/25/2006 5:36:56 PM
        
        census tracts are so 20th Century... - Robert - 10/25/2006 7:35:13 PM
        
        Data entry is so 19th Century. - ER - 10/26/2006 11:35:39 AM

"White House denies Cheney hailed 'water boarding'" - There's no end to the lies. - Bowser - 10/27/2006 4:58:15 PM
- "He's so far from daylight he doesn't have a clue." - Pelosi (n/t) - Eric - 10/27/2006 10:38:45 PM

We have turned Iraq into the most hellish place on Earth - Jack Herer - 10/27/2006 12:30:49 PM
- "Armies have instead brought a misery worse than under the cruellest of modern dictators " - Lindy - 10/27/2006 6:33:17 PM
- It's about as bad as South Africa - Lee - 10/27/2006 3:26:20 PM

Meanwhile, back in the real world... - TB - 10/27/2006 6:49:34 AM
- Welcome back! - Robert - 10/27/2006 2:38:37 PM
  - My prediction - Yeti - 10/27/2006 3:40:41 PM
    - My prediction as always - Tony - 10/27/2006 5:16:34 PM

Better fences make for better neighbors - AND THE FRENCH NOW AGREE!!! - Scott Evil - 10/26/2006 3:02:41 PM
- Congratulations! You can now feel justified ordering french toast again. - Mary Anne - 10/27/2006 1:34:19 AM
- Bush's 700 mile fence.......... - Publius - 10/26/2006 7:09:56 PM
  - re: Bush's 700 mile fence.......... - REB - 10/26/2006 8:07:10 PM
    - I'm thinking I might start a group to purchase some of that border land - Scott Evil - 10/27/2006 3:09:17 PM
  - re: Bush's 700 mile fence.......... - Buck Galaxy - 10/26/2006 7:50:04 PM
    - The rest is lined by a river... - Scott Evil - 10/27/2006 3:13:03 PM
      - There's a new invention south of the border. - Buck Galaxy - 10/27/2006 3:40:13 PM
        
        re: There's a new invention south of the border. - REB - 10/27/2006 4:19:28 PM
        
        Yes. And Bush's plan to fill the Rio Grande with Piranha will put a stop to that! (n/t) - Scott Evil - 10/27/2006 4:47:04 PM

Happy Quds Day - TB - 10/25/2006 6:38:14 PM
- Speaking of celebrations... - REB - 10/26/2006 2:47:56 PM
- DARPA & 4th of July (n/t) - Bowser - 10/26/2006 1:04:31 AM
- They see us as an enemy. We reciprocate. - alcaray - 10/25/2006 9:48:59 PM
- Every day is Quds Day - Robert - 10/25/2006 7:49:32 PM
  - Sure 'n does ya thank tha Irish Catholics - Publius - 10/27/2006 2:58:15 PM
  - Congratulations. About what I expected, and more. - TB - 10/26/2006 3:35:04 AM
    - Don't sweat the small stuff, TB - Robert - 10/26/2006 7:13:15 PM
      - It always starts out as "small stuff." - TB - 10/27/2006 2:42:11 AM
        
        Most things start small, but not everything gets big - Robert - 10/27/2006 3:44:56 AM
        
        What's important - TB - 10/27/2006 6:26:50 AM
        
        re: What's important - Robert - 10/27/2006 2:46:08 PM
    - I think a post must have disappeared - otherwise this makes no sense. (n/t) - Laurie Street - 10/26/2006 6:09:24 AM
      - From Robert's post - TB - 10/26/2006 6:20:03 AM

The Real Story: Iraq Video - REB - 10/27/2006 12:31:53 PM

EXXON Mobil Rates Second Highest Profits this quarter - Lindy - 10/27/2006 4:17:21 AM
- re: EXXON Mobil profits - TB - 10/27/2006 5:30:32 AM

"NBC REFUSES ADS FOR DIXIE CHICKS MOVIE" - More and more like - - - - Bowser - 10/27/2006 3:32:15 AM

Official: Arsonist caused fire that killed four firefighters - Bowser - 10/27/2006 12:41:10 AM

Halliburton Cited For Iraq Overhead - Jack Herer - 10/26/2006 12:31:21 PM
- Unfortunately they have to kill people to justify shovelling money to H. - Bowser - 10/26/2006 5:09:41 PM
- Money Down the Drain in Iraq - Donald - 10/26/2006 1:03:57 PM
  - re: Money Down the Drain in Iraq - Jack Herer - 10/26/2006 4:51:18 PM
  - Meanwhile: U.S. Death Toll in Iraq Worst in a Year - Donald - 10/26/2006 1:52:30 PM

Obama in '08? - azstrummer - 10/23/2006 1:23:09 PM
- My Powell poll (warning - offensive content) - E.P. - 10/23/2006 6:25:39 PM
  - You know people that use the "n" word? - Scott Evil - 10/24/2006 2:29:37 PM
    - Suppose... (offensive content) - E.P. - 10/25/2006 6:15:51 PM
      - Like I said...Its just not something you hear much around here... - Scott Evil - 10/26/2006 1:23:26 PM
- Why not Powell? - RobVG - 10/23/2006 6:09:17 PM
  - Not running on a Democratic ticket... - Mary Anne - 10/23/2006 6:52:43 PM
    - Powell - Lindy - 10/24/2006 3:01:33 PM
    - No, I don't - RobVG - 10/23/2006 8:54:58 PM
      - Oh come on! Obama is almost as qualified as Senator Quayle! - Scott Evil - 10/24/2006 2:37:08 PM
        
        Only a heartbeat away - Mary Anne - 10/24/2006 4:43:31 PM
        
        There's the "bucket of warm spit" factor to consider, too... - Fox - 10/25/2006 3:26:19 AM
        
        "I have not worked for the last four years - and I might consider being Vice President again..." - E.P. - 10/25/2006 6:24:07 PM
        
        Golf is the best reason to be VP. - Scott Evil - 10/26/2006 1:26:02 PM
    - He would be a great addition to a Democratic cabinet... - alcaray - 10/23/2006 8:10:32 PM
      - My Dream Team - Yeti - 10/23/2006 10:28:54 PM
        
        re: My Dream Team - Keith Olbermann/Jon Stewart - Laurie Street - 10/23/2006 10:35:34 PM
        
        LOL! This thread has been an unexpected treat! (n/t) - SDT1 - 10/23/2006 11:08:01 PM
- President Obama! - McFly - 10/23/2006 5:18:15 PM
  - Not yet. - Mary Anne - 10/24/2006 12:01:34 AM
    - re: Not yet. - azstrummer - 10/24/2006 7:38:48 PM
      - He's already cooked his own goose then. - Mary Anne - 10/25/2006 12:27:57 PM
        
        Maybe not - azstrummer - 10/25/2006 3:40:53 PM
- How about a Clinton/Obama ticket?--Kumbaya... (n/t) - ER - 10/23/2006 1:46:03 PM
  - No way. - Scott Evil - 10/23/2006 1:50:58 PM
    - Hillary IS........ - Lindy - 10/23/2006 3:42:52 PM
      - Not sure about Edwards - azstrummer - 10/23/2006 8:44:05 PM
        
        Values - Lindy - 10/24/2006 3:01:24 AM
        
        Scorpio - azstrummer - 10/24/2006 7:33:53 PM
        
        Body Armor? - Lindy - 10/24/2006 9:49:20 PM
    - Way! - ER - 10/23/2006 2:15:00 PM
- Not if Hillary Clinton can stop it. - Scott Evil - 10/23/2006 1:38:39 PM
  - Not if (the Fox News mythologised Medusa that is...) Hillary Clinton can stop it. (n/t) - et - 10/23/2006 3:39:24 PM

Lee - FrankC (moderator) - 10/25/2006 1:53:33 PM
- Sorry Frank - Lee - 10/26/2006 5:58:35 AM

Expert Warns Iraq In A "State Of Almost Full Collapse" - Eric - 10/22/2006 9:12:45 PM
- GOP Senator Say Iraq Is Near Chaos - Eric - 10/23/2006 10:29:08 PM
  - News Flash! Lindsey Graham opposes Bush and the war! - TB - 10/24/2006 4:22:47 AM
    - Lindsey Graham probably is not prominent in the minds of most people. (n/t) - alcaray - 10/24/2006 5:42:59 PM
      - Which is why some people can be fooled into thinking this is news. (n/t) - TB - 10/24/2006 10:35:11 PM
        
        It is news... - alcaray - 10/25/2006 4:01:58 PM
        
        A little more slowly... - TB - 10/25/2006 5:40:18 PM
        
        No new or misunderstood information in your post. - alcaray - 10/25/2006 6:27:00 PM
- Recycling of military units in Iraq has a meaning.... - Publius - 10/23/2006 7:12:23 PM
  - The face of new recruits - azstrummer - 10/23/2006 9:04:00 PM
- Wonder what "collapse" would look like. - Bowser - 10/23/2006 4:20:43 PM

Trying to Contain the Iraq Disaster - Donald - 10/24/2006 1:20:29 PM
- They are again saying "12 to 18 months". Said the same at the start. - Bowser - 10/24/2006 3:46:41 PM
  - Prior to a couple of years ago, 6 more months was the mantra - alcaray - 10/24/2006 5:39:25 PM
- re: Trying to explain the Iraq Disaster - ER - 10/24/2006 3:29:05 PM
  - Sorry - TB - 10/25/2006 3:45:13 AM
    - No problem. (n/t) - ER - 10/25/2006 12:51:23 PM
  - Sources - TB - 10/24/2006 10:32:06 PM
    - Was it something I said? - ER - 10/25/2006 1:28:34 AM
    - Read ER's post again. "apply common sense and reason..." when you evaluate a post. (n/t) - alcaray - 10/24/2006 11:23:32 PM
      - My point - TB - 10/24/2006 11:29:22 PM
        
        ER's point was that he had not seen any coverage of an obviously spectacular event. - alcaray - 10/25/2006 3:58:45 PM
        
        re: coverage - TB - 10/25/2006 5:29:43 PM
        
        nice stealth fallback (lot of that going on these days) (n/t) - alcaray - 10/25/2006 6:21:22 PM
    - "apply common sense and reason to these conflicting reports" - Bowser - 10/24/2006 10:58:25 PM
  - Clearly it's not reported because there is no access allowed. - Bowser - 10/24/2006 3:49:46 PM
  - This post incorrectly placed. I meant to respond to J. Herer's post below. (n/t) - ER - 10/24/2006 3:33:06 PM
- Meanwhile: 2,801 - Donald - 10/24/2006 1:27:03 PM
  - re: Meanwhile: 2,801 - Jack Herer - 10/24/2006 3:00:15 PM
    - "Bring 'em on", he said. (n/t) - Bowser - 10/24/2006 3:47:54 PM

Press briefing with General Pace - TB - 10/25/2006 4:59:08 AM
- British guy - great-grandfather captained the "Titanic". :-) - Bowser - 10/25/2006 3:54:14 PM

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