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Happy National Mole Day - ER - 10/24/2006 1:00:48 AM
- The REAL celebrated mole. Watch out for fakes. - Bowser - 10/24/2006 6:12:37 AM
  - Best believe it! - Fox - 10/25/2006 3:17:13 AM
- Can you dig it? - Fox - 10/24/2006 2:23:48 AM
  - re: Can you dig it? - Laurie Street - 10/24/2006 4:00:09 AM
  - guaca-mole is made from avogadroes (n/t) - ER - 10/24/2006 2:30:04 AM
    - I have a punning clan! - Robert - 10/24/2006 3:41:20 PM
    - Now that is clever. Congrats. (n/t) - Bowser - 10/24/2006 6:24:38 AM
      - Now this is clever. and quite delish. - Tony - 10/24/2006 6:46:15 PM
        
        I thought you photoshopped this. - ER - 10/24/2006 7:04:33 PM
        
        Alas, alack, no TJ's in Florida. - Tony - 10/24/2006 7:50:13 PM

Conservatives: If we could do it all over again, would we still invade Iraq? - Buck Galaxy - 10/22/2006 6:05:26 AM
- re: Conservatives: If we could do it all over again, would we still invade Iraq? - gbaikie - 10/24/2006 2:01:59 AM
- re: Conservatives: If we could do it all over again, would we still invade Iraq? - REB - 10/23/2006 7:09:29 PM
  - Small point re: the UN - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/23/2006 11:53:20 PM
    - PS - A real conspiracy for LindyJackEric et al - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/24/2006 12:08:48 AM
      - Like we are still itching for the Shah? (n/t) - alcaray - 10/24/2006 3:27:53 PM
      - Reveal away, Tecker - Lindy - 10/24/2006 3:05:09 AM
        
        Palmetto bugs - ER - 10/24/2006 1:11:55 PM
  - Another myth that needs addressing - TB - 10/23/2006 7:41:45 PM
    - re: Another myth that needs addressing - REB - 10/23/2006 7:45:56 PM
      - Local support - TB - 10/23/2006 8:27:33 PM
- Hindsight is always 20/20. - Scott Evil - 10/23/2006 1:43:50 PM
- Probably not - FrankC - 10/22/2006 10:18:40 PM
  - Not bad. (n/t) - Bowser - 10/22/2006 11:01:20 PM
  - Gawd that's heavy Frank..... - Lindy - 10/22/2006 10:54:53 PM
    - don't read too much into it - FrankC - 10/23/2006 12:17:25 AM
- The problem with conservatives.... - Donald - 10/22/2006 3:58:42 PM
  - their intellect is often too clouded by ideology to recognize when they're wrong about something. - FrankC - 10/22/2006 10:25:32 PM
- Yes. - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/22/2006 3:51:20 PM
- Yes. - ER - 10/22/2006 12:30:26 PM
  - re: Yes. - gbaikie - 10/25/2006 2:31:27 AM
  - Yeap. - Scott Evil - 10/23/2006 1:47:53 PM
  - re: excellent, but you forgot one thing: - podrock - 10/23/2006 4:07:46 AM
  - That's pretty much how I see it. (n/t) - FrankC - 10/22/2006 10:22:49 PM
  - Here's where we differ - azstrummer - 10/22/2006 5:38:04 PM
    - "Secular Saddam" - TB - 10/23/2006 6:58:56 PM
      - re: "Secular Saddam" - azstrummer - 10/23/2006 10:12:14 PM
        
        What you're missing - TB - 10/24/2006 1:02:43 AM
        
        Mr. Hayes has many detractors - azstrummer - 10/24/2006 8:48:41 PM
        
        I dare say he does. - TB - 10/24/2006 10:04:51 PM
        
        re: I dare say he does. - azstrummer - 10/24/2006 11:21:55 PM
    - Thank you Art - Lindy - 10/22/2006 11:11:48 PM
      - re: Thank you Art - azstrummer - 10/23/2006 1:15:55 PM
    - necessary but not sufficient - ER - 10/22/2006 7:00:40 PM
      - Reverse engineering - Lindy - 10/22/2006 11:18:52 PM
  - re: The two next presidential contenders - Raoul - 10/22/2006 3:21:41 PM
    - The next President will not have to deal with the war in Iraq. - ER - 10/22/2006 4:38:09 PM
      - And a further point to consider is... - Publius - 10/23/2006 7:19:25 PM
      - re: And in november? - Raoul - 10/22/2006 6:43:50 PM
        
        re: And in november? - ER - 10/22/2006 7:11:47 PM
      - " The American people would never have supported an invasion of a foreign nation which posed no direct threat, simply for economic or geopolitical reasons. " - Laurie Street - 10/22/2006 6:34:55 PM
        
        your drinking cool-aid if you think it was for those reasons. - Scott Evil - 10/23/2006 2:01:39 PM
        
        re: " The American people would never have supported an invasion of a foreign nation which posed no direct threat, simply for economic or geopolitical reasons. " - ER - 10/22/2006 7:28:37 PM
        
        Lying or mistaken - TB - 10/23/2006 7:18:50 PM
        
        "if I ever find out he was lying, rather than just mistaken" - Lindy - 10/22/2006 11:37:01 PM
        
        We have no proof that's what happened... - ER - 10/23/2006 12:06:18 AM
        
        "That's exactly how these men think" - Lindy - 10/23/2006 12:43:09 AM
        
        Belief - Raoul - 10/22/2006 9:12:56 PM
        
        "After WW2 and the building of the EU, patriotism lost most of its appeal, over here." - TB - 10/23/2006 7:26:34 PM
        
        re: The claim of patriotism - Raoul - 10/23/2006 7:38:48 PM
        
        I can only guess... - FrankC - 10/23/2006 8:08:32 PM
        
        "There was once great patriotism for ones native State but the Civil War ended that for the most part." - REB - 10/23/2006 8:13:57 PM
        
        re: The claim of patriotism - TB - 10/23/2006 8:04:35 PM
        
        And that's the bottomline isn't it? - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/23/2006 11:39:20 PM
        
        C'est vrai (n/t) - ER - 10/22/2006 10:02:30 PM
- Loaded question. But yes. - TB - 10/22/2006 8:55:54 AM
  - re: What Saddam did in his country was NONE of any other country's business - Raoul - 10/22/2006 10:22:40 AM
    - re: What Saddam did in his country was NONE of any other country's business - REB - 10/23/2006 7:56:15 PM
    - Perhaps you can find this movie in your country? - Lindy - 10/23/2006 12:40:56 AM
      - TV Coverage in your country - Lindy - 10/23/2006 1:07:37 AM
        
        re: Thanks Lindy...but I don't have BeTV; I'll wait for another opportunity (n/t) - Raoul - 10/23/2006 5:35:33 AM

The hazards of predicting climate change - David F Mayer - 10/24/2006 8:40:55 PM
- Niels Bohr? Or Yogi Berra? (n/t) - ER - 10/25/2006 12:40:31 AM

An interesting essay on socilaized medicine - read it and weep, conservatives - Laurie Street - 10/22/2006 2:13:38 AM
- re: poverty in the USA vs Socialized Europe - Scott Evil - 10/23/2006 2:10:28 PM
- Consider the source - Robert - 10/23/2006 12:04:45 AM
  - Odd... - TB - 10/23/2006 8:53:17 PM
    - Who is going broke? - Laurie Street - 10/23/2006 10:03:32 PM
      - re: Who is going broke? - TB - 10/23/2006 11:14:03 PM
        
        News flash for Tom - it's not 1945 any more. - Laurie Street - 10/23/2006 11:30:30 PM
        
        Don't worry... - SDT1 - 10/24/2006 1:40:50 AM
        
        On alternative histories - TB - 10/23/2006 11:46:39 PM
        
        "Carry our share?" - TB - 10/23/2006 11:43:23 PM
        
        re: "Carry our share?" - Laurie Street - 10/24/2006 1:20:29 AM
        
        re: "Carry our share?" - TB - 10/24/2006 4:37:41 AM
    - Oh, not really - Robert - 10/23/2006 9:57:01 PM
      - re: Oh, not really - TB - 10/23/2006 11:32:05 PM
        
        Interesting - Robert - 10/24/2006 12:30:59 AM
        
        re: Interesting - TB - 10/24/2006 4:50:24 AM
        
        re: Interesting - Robert - 10/24/2006 3:38:17 PM
        
        HMOs - TB - 10/24/2006 10:51:34 PM
        
        re: HMOs - Robert - 10/24/2006 11:46:18 PM
  - Consider the test subjects. - Lee - 10/23/2006 2:28:02 AM
    - It takes a village - Robert - 10/24/2006 12:51:42 AM
    - Crime rates - Mary Anne - 10/23/2006 4:24:44 AM
  - I kinda wondered - Laurie Street - 10/23/2006 1:46:24 AM

Dumbing down a nation..... - Randy - 10/24/2006 9:23:14 PM
- Well written - Yeti - 10/24/2006 9:45:55 PM
  - Welcome aboard, Randy. - ER - 10/24/2006 11:38:55 PM

Insurgencies need local support. Grow stronger with more local support. - Bowser - 10/24/2006 6:24:03 AM
- Article is from July of 2004. - TB - 10/24/2006 7:18:30 AM
  - Thanks. You're right. - Bowser - 10/24/2006 3:04:49 PM
    - The date wasn't clear in the link. - TB - 10/24/2006 9:35:06 PM

But the White House is cutting and running from "stay the course." It's misinterpreted. - Bowser - 10/24/2006 4:15:23 AM
- 'Nother story. "- - - denied - - - the Bush administration's war policy has been a sweeping "stay the course" commitment." - Bowser - 10/24/2006 4:55:58 AM

N. Y. Times on its exposure of the secret SWIFT program... - TB - 10/24/2006 12:28:46 AM

Getting rid of Pelosi - E.P. - 10/23/2006 6:04:50 PM
- Getting rid of (the Fox News mythologised Medusa that is...) Pelosi (n/t) - et - 10/23/2006 9:07:44 PM

Seven prominent conservatives hope the Republicans lose in 2006 - Eric - 10/21/2006 3:56:07 PM
- re: Seven prominent conservatives hope the Republicans lose in 2006 - REB - 10/23/2006 7:20:19 PM
- prominent conservatives --it's local also........ - Publius - 10/22/2006 1:35:48 AM
- I've never heard of any of them. - Newt Evil - 10/22/2006 12:26:42 AM
- Devastating! - ER - 10/21/2006 6:30:56 PM
- Classic Conservatism shall rise again - Robert - 10/21/2006 4:49:37 PM
  - Pretty much the way I see it. - Lee - 10/22/2006 7:38:02 AM
    - re: Pretty much the way I see it. - Robert - 10/22/2006 6:13:57 PM
      - I just hope in 08' - Lee - 10/23/2006 2:48:46 AM
        
        re: I just hope in 08' - REB - 10/23/2006 7:40:04 PM
    - Depends on who you think the Sith are.... (n/t) - Tony - 10/22/2006 2:41:57 PM
  - Punditry - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/21/2006 8:09:38 PM
    - It would be difficult to find a worse babysitter than the one we have now. (n/t) - alcaray - 10/23/2006 3:14:24 PM
    - You're sorta the last of the Neo-hee-cons around here anymore.... (n/t) - et - 10/21/2006 9:48:34 PM
      - I doubt it. - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/21/2006 11:31:07 PM
  - As an aside. - Bowser - 10/21/2006 6:32:08 PM
    - re: As an aside. - Robert - 10/21/2006 9:38:15 PM

Yikes!!!!!! GAS $1.91/gal here in NE............... - carl - 10/19/2006 4:15:19 PM
- buy low............... (n/t) - podrock - 10/19/2006 11:40:46 PM
- You can thank the GOP for their price rigging abilities. (n/t) - Eric - 10/19/2006 11:36:58 PM
  - Following that logic... - REB - 10/23/2006 7:24:40 PM
- $2.45 here. Only cost me $45 dollars to fill my tank the other day. (n/t) - alcaray - 10/19/2006 5:25:52 PM
  - $2.29 here in NC - Lindy - 10/20/2006 12:25:29 AM
    - $1.94 in N. Texas - Fox - 10/20/2006 12:58:31 AM
      - Damn gas will drop 10 cents a gallon every week before the election? - Lindy - 10/20/2006 3:26:53 AM
        
        Republicans don't LIE!!!!!!!! - carl - 10/20/2006 2:53:17 PM

Kiss 45 billion goodbye and out of the economy. - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/19/2006 6:03:41 PM
- re: Kiss 1 trillion goodbye. - podrock - 10/19/2006 10:59:44 PM
  - Selling them the rope. - ER - 10/20/2006 12:18:21 AM
    - Vaporware. - ER - 10/20/2006 2:21:58 PM
      - Yes a $12T sham, right? - Buck Galaxy - 10/21/2006 8:20:51 AM
      - You see, those dollars we are giving them are worthless unless they can invest them right back here in the USA. - Scott Evil - 10/20/2006 5:38:39 PM
        
        Kiyosaki's opinion - podrock - 10/20/2006 6:49:52 PM
        
        re: Kiyosaki's livelihood - ER - 10/20/2006 8:35:23 PM
        
        I agree with ER - Lindy - 10/23/2006 12:03:03 AM
        
        That's true of all money. - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/21/2006 6:11:16 AM
        
        the dollar is not money... - podrock - 10/21/2006 5:34:13 PM
        
        Kiyosaki's eggs... - podrock - 10/20/2006 11:20:41 PM
        
        It sounds like a Ponzi scheme to me. - ER - 10/20/2006 5:53:42 PM
        
        What if they started buying real estate...... - Publius - 10/22/2006 1:43:25 AM
- Can't get the link to work. What was this about? (n/t) - alcaray - 10/19/2006 6:20:49 PM
  - OK, persistence shows the link works for me now - alcaray - 10/19/2006 6:27:43 PM
    - The results HAVE to be skewed - Lindy - 10/19/2006 9:44:20 PM
      - I'm afraid not, Lindy. (n/t) - ER - 10/20/2006 12:20:42 AM
    - re: OK, persistence shows the link works for me now - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/19/2006 6:43:29 PM
      - How much do Americans earn in foreign countries? - alcaray - 10/20/2006 3:25:07 PM
        
        be careful you grasshopper...you are getting dangerously close to making the case for trickle down economics. (n/t) - Scott Evil - 10/20/2006 5:36:39 PM
        
        I have made that case. But it has nothing to do with the free trade post above. (n/t) - alcaray - 10/20/2006 5:39:30 PM
        
        , Master Po. (n/t) - alcaray - 10/20/2006 7:29:52 PM
        
        Not to mention Master Lala.. - Mary Anne - 10/23/2006 4:35:38 AM
        
        Yike! If I ever watched Teletubbies a couple of times so I could figure it out... - alcaray - 10/23/2006 3:18:44 PM
        
        Yeah, I know. I couldn't resist. 8oD (n/t) - Mary Anne - 10/23/2006 7:07:40 PM
      - replace the income tax with a national sales tax... That would stop them from immigrating to the USA. - Scott Evil - 10/20/2006 1:31:08 PM

What do you make of Kim's apology for the nuclear test? (n/t) - Laurie Street - 10/20/2006 4:28:18 PM
- All along he's been trying to trade bomb capability for nuclear power. - Bowser - 10/21/2006 3:40:01 AM
  - More "Blame it on Bush" crap. - David F Mayer - 10/23/2006 3:39:52 PM
- I don't trust the little creep. - ER - 10/20/2006 11:09:34 PM
  - N Korean SPIN DOCS.............. - carl - 10/21/2006 3:52:55 PM
    - Maybe that's not exactly the point I was trying to make... (n/t) - ER - 10/21/2006 5:58:20 PM
- Easy. He is scared ####less of China. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 10/20/2006 7:30:59 PM
- Good question. - TB - 10/20/2006 4:46:37 PM
  - Another theory... - TB - 10/20/2006 4:58:42 PM
    - They don't gotta work GOOD - carl - 10/21/2006 3:54:50 PM
    - Or maybe a combination of the two - Laurie Street - 10/20/2006 5:13:53 PM

State Department: US arrogant and stupid in Iraq - Donald - 10/22/2006 1:50:17 PM
- Meanwhile" Bush Blowing Wind - Donald - 10/22/2006 4:02:35 PM

Two very different stories describing the recent Base Falcon disaster - Eric - 10/22/2006 12:11:50 AM

Human Rights Watch makes amazing discovery - TB - 10/20/2006 4:53:36 PM
- Cluster bombs have been in use since WWII. - ER - 10/20/2006 9:11:20 PM
- steel shot *does not equal* cluster bombs (n/t) - alcaray - 10/20/2006 7:28:40 PM
  - Let's not quibble about this. - et - 10/21/2006 9:01:16 PM
  - Tell it to HRW. (n/t) - TB - 10/20/2006 7:47:29 PM
    - It's like polls. You love 'em when they agree with you. (n/t) - Bowser - 10/21/2006 3:36:02 AM

From Pat Tillman's Brother - azstrummer - 10/21/2006 12:07:35 AM
- Qualified viewpoints. - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/21/2006 5:36:57 AM
  - re: Qualified viewpoints. - azstrummer - 10/21/2006 4:40:32 PM
- re: From Pat Tillman's Brother - Lindy - 10/21/2006 12:51:44 AM
- I can see it now - Rumsfeld - "Disgruntled former employee" - (n/t) - Bowser - 10/21/2006 12:18:24 AM

Iraqi Leaders Call for Intensified Violence - David F Mayer - 10/20/2006 3:31:20 PM
- Joke aside, we would probably learn that, in fact, they did - SDF - 10/21/2006 8:28:20 AM
  - And any muslim who reads this truth and rejects it - SDF - 10/21/2006 2:34:29 PM
- Ah, the "Onion." Good stuff. (n/t) - TB - 10/20/2006 3:45:40 PM

Human REMIANS still being found at WTC Site - carl - 10/21/2006 2:18:26 PM

My election commentary - Donald - 10/19/2006 3:44:02 AM
- Don't count your chickens, is my advice - alcaray - 10/19/2006 5:19:00 PM
  - re: Don't count your chickens, is my advice - TB - 10/19/2006 6:43:30 PM
    - Actually... - Donald - 10/20/2006 12:07:09 AM
      - You do realize, of course, that there is no real evidence to support this idea. - TB - 10/20/2006 2:41:33 AM
        
        We'll just ignore, of course, the opinions of the NIE. - Tony - 10/20/2006 6:14:27 PM
        
        "What would our intelligence agancies know about it anyway..." - TB - 10/20/2006 6:32:02 PM
        
        Oooh, well dodged. - Tony - 10/20/2006 8:26:37 PM
        
        There is ample evidence that terror rates are growing at an alarming rate. - alcaray - 10/20/2006 4:01:37 PM
        
        Don't move the goalposts. - TB - 10/20/2006 4:18:31 PM
        
        you don't think that terrorism is proportional to the number of terrorists? - alcaray - 10/20/2006 5:54:21 PM
        
        Well argued! (n/t) - Yeti - 10/20/2006 7:07:59 PM
        
        Why should it be? - TB - 10/20/2006 6:40:31 PM
        
        So the cries to build more prisons to combat rising crime rates... - alcaray - 10/20/2006 7:00:54 PM
        
        Tom wears the Yeti Seal of Approval for his argument. Alcary- nicely done. (n/t) - Yeti - 10/20/2006 7:09:22 PM
        
        BTW - Yetster - 10/20/2006 7:10:39 PM
        
        Either of you look at the list? - TB - 10/21/2006 9:05:44 AM
        
        Dont move the goal posts. - tony - 10/21/2006 2:00:32 PM
    - Hey Gronk! Long time no see, buddy! - alcaray - 10/19/2006 8:07:00 PM
      - So, which item on the list is wrong?. - TB - 10/19/2006 8:30:56 PM
        
        if youre dealing in absolutes --- repost - ian cognito - 10/20/2006 12:53:15 AM
        
        What exactly does that mean? - TB - 10/20/2006 2:45:54 AM
        
        if youre dealing in absoltes (n/t) - (anonymous) - 10/20/2006 12:51:18 AM
        
        My post clearly addressed the first item in your list. - alcaray - 10/19/2006 11:45:43 PM
    - re: Don't count your chickens, is my advice - azstrummer - 10/19/2006 7:52:04 PM
      - You forgot - Laurie Street - 10/19/2006 8:51:15 PM
        
        4,000 foreign terrorists dead in Iraq. - TB - 10/19/2006 9:18:33 PM
        
        Just Two questions - (SIGH) - 10/19/2006 11:52:37 PM
        
        re: two answers - TB - 10/20/2006 2:35:20 AM
      - At least mine made sense. - TB - 10/19/2006 8:02:03 PM
        
        re: At least mine made sense. - azstrummer - 10/20/2006 4:41:29 PM
- To reinforce my point... - Donald - 10/19/2006 12:35:00 PM
  - Cheney feels Iraq is doing well - Jack Herer - 10/19/2006 8:03:35 PM

44% - E.P. - 10/21/2006 7:06:48 AM

Shame: GOP to Air Ad Warning of Terror Attacks (to get votes) - Jack Herer - 10/20/2006 12:14:07 PM
- Cat - 1 teapot tempest. - ER - 10/20/2006 11:29:52 PM
- Isn't going to be nearly as effective as this one... - TB - 10/20/2006 6:51:26 PM
  - Boy, if that's all they have to bitch about.... - Lindy - 10/21/2006 1:14:47 AM
  - What alcaray said - Robert - 10/20/2006 7:48:25 PM
  - It would only work with folks who already think that... - alcaray - 10/20/2006 7:12:54 PM
    - The thinking is that liberal = evil gets the base out to vote. (n/t) - Tony - 10/20/2006 8:21:19 PM
      - As long as the base does not realize that the republicans wear no clothes. - Naked Yeti. - 10/20/2006 10:00:27 PM
- Hope they call it "Bin Laden determined to strike in US" - Tony - 10/20/2006 3:08:52 PM
  - LOL (n/t) - Sideline Yeti - 10/20/2006 8:38:49 PM

"MIssion Accomplished" as defined by George Bush - Donald - 10/20/2006 1:44:56 PM
- Tet Offensive again. In every sense of that event. (n/t) - TB - 10/20/2006 3:49:08 PM
- Mission IMPOSSIBLE!!!!! - carl - 10/20/2006 2:55:41 PM
- More "Mission Accomplished" - Donald - 10/20/2006 1:47:20 PM
  - Meanwhile: 2,787 - Donald - 10/20/2006 1:48:57 PM
    - How about "Operation I Quit"? (n/t) - Lindy - 10/21/2006 1:01:18 AM

Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water... or near the water - REB - 10/20/2006 5:22:41 PM
- Freaky story..... - Lindy - 10/21/2006 12:56:24 AM

So, who was that guy? - ER - 10/19/2006 11:40:46 PM
- "Does the management have a policy..."? - Robert - 10/20/2006 4:50:48 PM
  - It appears you've given this some thought already. - ER - 10/20/2006 5:08:27 PM
    - Every day - Robert - 10/20/2006 6:32:22 PM
- re: "Does the management have a policy for dealing with people like this?" - alcaray - 10/20/2006 3:13:51 PM

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