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Ain't Gonna Happen Dept.: - "Polls: Democrats in striking distance for Senate " - Bowser - 10/2/2006 7:09:15 PM

Secret reports dispute White House optimism - Donald - 10/1/2006 2:21:22 PM
- Woodward - Tom Brosz - 10/1/2006 9:17:42 PM
  - So who the heck is Mario Loyola and why should I care what he thinks? - azstrummer - 10/2/2006 1:32:45 AM
    - It isn't what he thinks. It's what he pointed out. - Tom Brosz - 10/2/2006 3:28:55 AM
      - Credibility - azstrummer - 10/2/2006 1:30:26 PM
        
        The source - Tom Brosz - 10/2/2006 5:17:44 PM
        
        re: The source - azstrummer - 10/2/2006 6:23:12 PM
        
        Try something radical... - Tom Brosz - 10/2/2006 6:41:53 PM
  - Smear. Disgusting tactic, typical, usual, the "line". From now to the vote. - Bowser - 10/1/2006 10:01:51 PM

My Florida Congressional district to switch to Democrat party.... - Publius - 9/30/2006 1:08:04 PM
- Perspective - buggery seems to be a right of passage for MPs and British royalty. (n/t) - Bowser - 10/2/2006 6:12:04 AM
  - They recently had a huge scandal - Lindy - 10/2/2006 3:23:34 PM
- The ultimate perversion - ER - 10/1/2006 11:47:49 AM
  - Rome revisited - Lindy - 10/1/2006 4:06:32 PM
- Rep. Foley crusaded for tough laws against those who used the Internet for sexual exploitation of children. - Eric - 10/1/2006 12:22:36 AM
  - Damned straight he did! Well, sorta. You know what I mean. (n/t) - Bowser - 10/1/2006 12:35:42 AM
- Foley is in "good company" - Donald - 9/30/2006 3:29:33 PM
  - Here's another list - Lindy - 10/2/2006 3:45:08 AM
  - Children of the corn - ER - 9/30/2006 9:43:44 PM
    - Yes. Sort of like trotting out Senator Byrd's Klan past to embarrass Democrats. - Mary Anne - 10/1/2006 4:53:46 PM
  - Whoa, obviously Foley was just trying to take a page out of their book.......... - Publius - 9/30/2006 9:29:43 PM
    - But I don't use a book mark.......... - Foley - 9/30/2006 10:59:02 PM
    - Kinda makes you wonder.... - Donald - 9/30/2006 10:28:12 PM
      - So first I'm a Nazi, and now I'm a child molester. - Tom Brosz - 9/30/2006 10:53:30 PM
        
        How about proto-fascist cheerleader.... (n/t) - et - 10/1/2006 8:34:24 PM
        
        Those are not mutually exclusive terms................... - Publius - 10/1/2006 1:30:36 PM
        
        Relax Tom. The hungry speak of bread and Don's a pubic servant... - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/1/2006 12:05:35 AM
        
        That was cute, Tom..... - Lindy - 9/30/2006 11:46:29 PM
        
        More Nazi, I'd say. - Bowser - 10/1/2006 1:06:21 AM
        
        Latent, maybe. Not overt, quiescent so to speak. Maybe. - Bowser - 9/30/2006 11:57:50 PM
        
        Yup - Donald - 10/1/2006 1:54:11 PM

Looking at the face of evil....... - Publius - 9/28/2006 6:23:13 PM
- re: Looking at the face of evil....... - REB - 9/29/2006 9:53:23 PM
  - Emerson, Lake and Palmer do the song best (n/t) - azstrummer - 9/29/2006 11:29:20 PM
  - Some history - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2006 11:02:06 PM
- George Bush is the long awaited 12th Imam - Amidilliah al Ridijadijih - 9/29/2006 7:28:11 PM
- You know, as long as we can continue to argue over this, we're still OK. - Mary Anne - 9/29/2006 3:47:02 PM
  - Kinder garden. - ER - 9/29/2006 4:39:26 PM
    - Uniforms - Mary Anne - 9/29/2006 9:12:16 PM
      - re: Uniforms - ER - 9/30/2006 12:00:53 AM
        
        Having endured school uniforms... - Mary Anne - 9/30/2006 1:18:38 AM
    - Boy Scouts - azstrummer - 9/29/2006 5:10:48 PM
      - re: Boy Scouts - REB - 9/29/2006 9:19:46 PM
      - The scouts are gay. - Scott Evil - 9/29/2006 7:35:48 PM
      - re: Boy Scouts - Laurie Street - 9/29/2006 6:18:26 PM
        
        re: Boy Scouts - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2006 7:46:18 PM
- Fundamentalism - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2006 2:29:24 AM
  - Yawning at Wahhabists - Mary Anne - 9/29/2006 2:42:57 PM
  - re: Fundamentalism - azstrummer - 9/29/2006 2:18:55 PM
  - one heavy-duty evangelistic religious group? - Publius - 9/29/2006 1:57:22 PM
    - If you can't see a difference, then I doubt it could be explained to you. (n/t) - Lee - 9/30/2006 2:25:43 AM
      - If you can't see the similarity, then you are blind......... - Publius - 9/30/2006 3:02:06 PM
        
        Sorry, but I don't see anything in common. - Lee - 10/2/2006 3:41:04 AM
    - This is why I don't bother. - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2006 2:28:19 PM
      - No Tom - azstrummer - 9/29/2006 3:33:49 PM
        
        Addressing the problem - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2006 4:15:25 PM
        
        Taking it to the extremes once again - azstrummer - 9/29/2006 4:57:02 PM
        
        Imagine his response if it were Kerry in the picture. - Bowser - 9/29/2006 6:23:08 PM
- Ain't nothing like a Fundamental Christian, unless - Bowser - 9/29/2006 2:03:59 AM
- It was disgusting - Donald - 9/29/2006 12:50:43 AM
- Do they accept vouchers? (n/t) - ER - 9/29/2006 12:42:37 AM
- Yes very spooky - FrankC - 9/28/2006 6:56:07 PM
  - re: Yes very spooky - gbaikie - 9/28/2006 11:18:02 PM
- Very Scary Indeed! - ID - 9/28/2006 6:29:56 PM
  - Farenheit 911 Revisited - azstrummer - 9/28/2006 10:28:11 PM
    - "a couple of things he pinged on..." - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2006 4:31:24 AM
      - re: "a couple of things he pinged on..." - azstrummer - 9/29/2006 2:16:02 PM
  - Yes "ID", it's real.... - et - 9/28/2006 8:12:14 PM
    - re: Yes "ID", it's real.... - gbaikie - 9/28/2006 11:44:43 PM

Should Bush pardon himself and all of his administration from War Crimes? - Eric - 10/1/2006 10:19:47 AM
- Go ahead, send your emails - Lindy - 10/1/2006 4:01:49 PM
- Incredible - Donald - 10/1/2006 2:08:35 PM

"Baghdad under total daylight curfew" - whatcha wanna bet it was a coup attempt. - Bowser - 10/1/2006 6:50:26 AM

Left Ignores Totalitarianism of Chavez in Venezuela - David F Mayer - 9/26/2006 5:10:52 PM
- Right Ignores Totalitarianism of Bush in US. That's more important, BTW/ - Bowser - 9/26/2006 5:51:58 PM
  - More paranoia from Bowser. The mysterious "disappearing" critics. - David F Mayer - 10/1/2006 3:30:12 AM
- your post does not support your subject line (n/t) - alcaray - 9/26/2006 5:44:05 PM

Up to a million cluster bomblets discharged by Israel in its conflict with Hezbollah remain unexploded - Bowser - 9/26/2006 3:40:55 PM
- That is what happens when one permits terrorists to - David F Mayer - 9/26/2006 5:02:48 PM
  - I just need to get this straight in my understanding.... - Publius - 9/28/2006 3:54:18 PM
    - I can't help it if you are stupid. - David F Mayer - 10/1/2006 3:28:18 AM
  - kidnap and kill members of the government of a neighboring people. (n/t) - E.P. - 9/27/2006 1:18:56 AM
    - Always good for a laugh. They had it coming. - Bowser - 9/27/2006 1:38:43 AM
  - re: No excuse for cluster bombs - Raoul - 9/26/2006 9:40:43 PM
    - No need to apologize for bombing supporters of fascist Hezbollah Islamomaniacs - sz - 9/28/2006 4:31:21 AM
      - Loved your post---but, it did leave me a little confused - Publius - 9/28/2006 3:27:41 PM
        
        a little confused... - sz - 9/29/2006 11:57:57 AM
        
        talking points....... - Publius - 9/29/2006 2:21:31 PM
        
        That's a good point but - sz - 9/30/2006 1:22:20 PM
        
        Guess that's why it's referred to as Islamo-Fascism - Lee - 9/30/2006 9:08:42 AM
    - "Israel must have known this" - Lindy - 9/27/2006 10:01:16 PM
    - "Children are the first victims of those bombs" - Buck Galaxy - 9/27/2006 8:10:26 AM
      - One million - Tom Brosz - 9/28/2006 1:12:27 AM
      - "only an idiot would believe on face value." - Lindy - 9/27/2006 10:02:57 PM
      - preposterous propaganda - McFly - 9/27/2006 4:52:19 PM
        
        "Besides, my jaw was in my lap" - Lindy - 9/27/2006 9:48:16 PM

"Afghanistan is on the brink of becoming a failed state once again. It's ours to lose again." - Bowser - 10/1/2006 12:07:17 AM
- After 5 years of Bush - "Fear stalks the streets of Kabul" - Bowser - 10/1/2006 12:34:00 AM
- After 5 years of Bush - "Fear stalks the streets of Kabul" - Bowser - 10/1/2006 12:33:57 AM

The Foley Follies - Donald - 9/30/2006 1:28:30 AM
- "Be right back, my Mom is yelling........." - Lindy - 9/30/2006 11:56:22 PM
- Hadn't read down this far - Publius - 9/30/2006 1:12:21 PM
- I'd be very curious to know - sz - 9/30/2006 2:13:55 AM

We need more heroes like this - Donald - 9/30/2006 6:52:16 PM
- Lets wait for the campaign ads. I'll bet they'll savage her. "Swift-amputees"! - Bowser - 9/30/2006 9:07:53 PM
  - Remember the Alamo-------Stay the Course......... - Publius - 9/30/2006 9:19:10 PM

Bill Clinton connects the dots - E.P. - 9/25/2006 2:07:45 PM
- Whose NSA said, "Who would have thought?" 'Nuff sed! (n/t) - Bowser - 9/25/2006 6:55:14 PM
- Poor Bill Clinton. - Scott Evil - 9/25/2006 3:21:57 PM
  - Let's just forget about the entire Bin Laden family being flown out the country the day after 911 when every other plane in the country was grounded. (n/t) - Buck Galaxy - 9/26/2006 3:01:24 AM
    - It didn't happen. - Scot Evil - 9/26/2006 1:45:50 PM
      - This kind of Catholic liberal tripe diverts from WHAT DID HAPPEN - E.P. - 9/26/2006 3:03:44 PM
        
        "Catholic liberal tripe"? What is that? - Mary Anne - 9/27/2006 2:46:25 AM
        
        Michael Moore's (n/t) - E.P. - 9/27/2006 7:35:36 AM
    - More unadulterated crap. - Tom Brosz - 9/26/2006 6:35:28 AM
      - And when was the Bib Ladin Family interrogated? - Buck Galaxy - 9/27/2006 8:04:33 AM
        
        Before the planes left. - Tom Brosz - 9/27/2006 4:26:47 PM
        
        Looks pretty solid but - Buck Galaxy - 9/28/2006 5:01:44 AM
        
        re: Looks pretty solid but - Tom Brosz - 9/28/2006 5:15:55 AM
        
        You conveniently.... - azstrummer - 9/28/2006 10:47:22 PM
        
        Probably due to its absolute irrelevance. - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2006 2:39:42 AM
        
        More evasion - azstrummer - 9/29/2006 3:41:27 PM
        
        "who cares what evidence you can present..." I guess that winds this subject up, then. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2006 4:17:43 PM
        
        Quote the whole line Tom. It includes the word timelines. That's the immaterial part. (n/t) - azstrummer - 9/29/2006 5:13:50 PM
        
        Good Lord... - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2006 6:11:53 PM
        
        I wouldn't go that far - Buck Galaxy - 9/30/2006 7:10:59 PM
        
        re: Good Lord... - azstrummer - 9/29/2006 6:52:13 PM
        
        There hasn't been real debate here for some time. Enjoy it. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2006 7:50:07 PM
        
        Rational ones - Lindy - 9/29/2006 4:24:30 AM
        
        re: Rational - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2006 4:35:01 AM
        
        Is he any relation to... - alcaray - 9/27/2006 3:35:02 PM
      - Oh, like SNOPES has the "final" say - Lindy - 9/26/2006 3:00:15 PM
        
        Snopes was quoting the 9/11 Commission. - Mary Anne - 9/27/2006 2:50:08 AM
        
        re: Snopes was quoting the 9/11 Commission. - Lindy - 9/27/2006 4:20:58 AM
        
        Tampa Tribune - Alan G. Archer - 9/27/2006 4:47:13 AM
        
        Link - Tom Brosz - 9/27/2006 4:37:17 PM
        
        Bodyguards - Lindy - 9/28/2006 2:13:11 AM
        
        For the third time on this single thread... - Tom Brosz - 9/28/2006 3:21:34 AM
        
        "The FBI is alleged to have had no record of the flight and denied that it occurred, hence contributing to the story of a "phantom flight." - Lindy - 9/28/2006 3:52:13 AM
        
        Thanks, Tom - Alan G. Archer - 9/27/2006 11:30:25 PM
        
        re: Tampa Tribune - Lindy - 9/27/2006 4:24:08 PM
        
        Walked or arrested? - Alan G. Archer - 9/28/2006 2:09:49 AM
        
        re: Walked or arrested? - Lindy - 9/28/2006 2:15:19 AM
        
        Thanks, Liddy. Baah...baah. I will now go back to my pasture to graze. (n/t) - Alan G. Archer - 9/28/2006 2:36:59 AM
        
        Who are the true historians? (n/t) - Alan G. Archer - 9/26/2006 10:52:36 PM
    - The reason why Usama was in afghanistan was because the entire bin laden family threw him out of Saudi Arabia (n/t) - E.P. - 9/26/2006 6:15:02 AM
  - Another attack by lying neocon fascist scum - E.P. - 9/25/2006 6:00:34 PM
    - Ah yes. There was no terrorism until Bush bungeled the ball. - Scott Evil - 9/25/2006 6:08:39 PM
      - Many attempts attacks were stopped. (n/t) - E.P. - 9/25/2006 7:39:11 PM
        
        Many attempts, attacks were stopped. (n/t) - E.P. - 9/25/2006 7:40:35 PM
  - Had it been Rumsfeld barking at a reporter... - alcaray - 9/25/2006 5:08:05 PM
    - Rumsfield gets barked at by reporters daily. - Scott Evil - 9/25/2006 5:55:33 PM
      - You are a... - alcaray - 9/25/2006 6:39:54 PM
        
        I'm pretty sure I've made the statement here before that Rumsfield can take it. - Scott Evil - 9/25/2006 6:49:20 PM
        
        Define "quagmire" for him. Guy doesn't know English. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/25/2006 6:56:00 PM
        
        No need to define the term for me. - Scott Evil - 9/25/2006 7:15:04 PM
        
        ahh: magical thinking. - alcaray - 9/27/2006 3:50:49 PM
        
        Isn't it kind of late for "a quick end to the war"?? Like about three years at least. (n/t) - Laurie Street - 9/25/2006 8:48:42 PM
        
        Learn English - Lindy - 9/25/2006 8:34:14 PM
        
        For those whom Iraq doesn't offend there is no hope. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/25/2006 11:53:08 PM
  - Bill's MELTDOWN............. - carl - 9/25/2006 4:27:23 PM
    - re: Where is the evidence that Clinton "was obsessed with killing Bin Ladin". He wasn't. In fact he was more obsessed with Sadam Hussain. - Scott Evil - 9/25/2006 6:06:11 PM
      - Do you read your own posts?? You think your title MIGHT apply to Bush more so than Clinton? (n/t) - Buck Galaxy - 9/26/2006 2:59:47 AM
        
        Were talking evidence here... There is evidence Clinton WAS OBSESSED WITH SADAM. - Scott Evil - 9/26/2006 1:44:28 PM
        
        Evidence: - alcaray - 9/27/2006 10:42:13 PM
        
        "The subject is Clinton..." - Buck Galaxy - 9/27/2006 8:01:41 AM
        
        At some point the subject becomes attack politics practiced by neocon fascisrt scum (n/t) - E.P. - 9/27/2006 1:35:28 AM
      - it was the Republicans who used Sadam Hussein and Bin Laden first - Lindy - 9/26/2006 12:07:57 AM
    - Can't help but blame Bill, can they? 5 years of chaos later, and it's Bill. - Bowser - 9/25/2006 4:37:31 PM
      - remember this? - Scott Evil - 9/25/2006 6:21:01 PM
        
        Compare that to the present situation. - Bowser - 9/25/2006 6:31:28 PM
- I'll throw you one for free: Look past the AP a little bit. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/25/2006 2:33:24 PM

Bush praises Kazakhstan as a "free nation". - Bowser - 9/30/2006 4:50:38 AM
- What happened to "Iraq was better off under Saddam?" - Tom Brosz - 9/30/2006 5:45:40 AM
  - Tom, you just can't defend it any more. They don't deserve you. - Bowser - 9/30/2006 6:34:17 AM
  - What happened to promoting "democracy" and "freedom"? - Bowser - 9/30/2006 6:02:58 AM
    - Didn't expect you to get it. Somebody else might. - Tom Brosz - 9/30/2006 5:13:51 PM
      - Exactly how many Iraqis were involved in WTC. Please, please read yer own post.. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/30/2006 6:12:01 PM

Henry K issenger Advise W on Iraq.......... - carl - 9/29/2006 5:44:00 PM
- Got a link? (n/t) - RobVG - 9/30/2006 3:14:45 AM
  - Yeah, Jill St John and Henry K - carl - 9/30/2006 4:12:45 PM
    - funny. - RobVG - 9/30/2006 5:20:37 PM
- re: please tell me this is bad dream - Andrew - 9/29/2006 7:25:49 PM
  - re: re:Perhaps Kissinger can teach him how to lose with dignity (n/t) - Raoul - 9/29/2006 7:56:42 PM
    - If he knew. He just seems to know "lose". (n/t) - Bowser - 9/29/2006 10:22:30 PM
      - PS. The debate used to be over 12 or 18 months incountry. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/29/2006 10:23:25 PM

How can anyone think this is going to get better? Without doing something different. - Bowser - 9/30/2006 1:50:26 AM
- Folks, we have a problem. - Robert knows - 9/30/2006 9:16:35 AM
- It's a total mess - Donald - 9/30/2006 2:07:49 AM

GOP and torture - Jack Herer - 9/29/2006 12:48:28 PM
- re: GOP and torture - azstrummer - 9/29/2006 3:48:16 PM
  - You'll see the biggest pardon in history before Bush leaves. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/29/2006 5:46:00 PM
    - Pardons don't stop lawsuits do they? - azstrummer - 9/29/2006 7:15:22 PM
      - Apparently they are criminal in nature. - Bowser - 9/29/2006 10:21:24 PM
- depicts senior officials of the Bush administration as unable to face the consequences of their policy in Iraq." - Bowser - 9/29/2006 3:45:32 PM
  - Kissinger Advising Bush on war: "Victory is the only meaningful exit strategy" - Jack Herer - 9/29/2006 5:05:32 PM
    - l'eminence gris - ER - 9/29/2006 6:24:55 PM
      - Blinded by power, greed and control - Jack Herer - 9/29/2006 7:09:54 PM

How Bush looks at Iraq - Bowser - 9/29/2006 7:16:07 PM

Olbermann slices and dices - Laurie Street - 9/29/2006 3:39:59 PM
- And they're still trying to blame Clinton - see below. - Bowser - 9/29/2006 4:17:20 PM

Bush keeps secret - "Beijing secretly fires lasers to disable US satellites" - Bowser - 9/29/2006 12:06:35 AM
- Selling them the rope - ER - 9/29/2006 12:55:41 AM
  - "weaponized computer viruses" -- unique term? - Alan G. Archer - 9/29/2006 2:28:49 AM
    - re: "weaponized computer viruses" -- unique term? - ER - 9/29/2006 11:29:33 AM

Ain't us, it's Clinton!! "Tony Snow: Previous presidency hurt terrorism fight" - Bowser - 9/29/2006 12:39:12 AM
- LOL thank god tony snow is just a fox news loser.... - :( - 9/29/2006 5:06:33 AM
- Heh, heh. They forgot Ashcroft seriously cut the counterterrorism budget. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/29/2006 2:02:44 AM

Majority of Iraqis want the US out - now - Laurie Street - 9/28/2006 3:24:48 AM
- Dial 1-800-WASHINGTON (n/t) - Lindy - 9/29/2006 2:32:32 AM
- Six in 10 Iraqis approve of attacks on U.S.-led forces - Donald - 9/28/2006 1:06:14 PM
- Oh, but I forgot - Laurie Street - 9/28/2006 3:26:21 AM
  - They're gonna get "freedom" and "democracy" if it kills 'em! (n/t) - Bowser - 9/28/2006 4:09:41 AM

Direct costs of Iraq - nearly $2 billion/week, up 2X in 3 years, 20% in last year - Bowser - 9/28/2006 3:57:37 PM
- Someone needs to take George Bush's charge account away (n/t) - Lindy - 9/29/2006 12:24:56 AM
  - "Stay the course!" - Lindy - 9/29/2006 2:24:11 AM

Leftist Arts Community 'Pre-Emptive Surrender' to Islamic Terrorism - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/27/2006 11:24:15 PM
- Has anyone reviewed the opera house's insurance coverage lately? - Mary Anne - 9/28/2006 11:38:21 PM
- Remember the "starfish"! - Bowser - 9/28/2006 3:59:41 PM
- Fascinating, and what did the Rightest Arts Community have to say about it? - Publius - 9/28/2006 3:58:55 PM
  - Rightest Arts Community - azstrummer - 9/28/2006 10:55:39 PM
    - Does the Jesus Boot Camp fill the bill? - Publius - 9/28/2006 11:11:57 PM

Woodward - "eight-, nine-hundred attacks a week. That's more than 100 a day." - Bowser - 9/28/2006 7:42:42 PM
- Old news. - Tom Brosz - 9/28/2006 10:03:43 PM
  - First, context. Second, it's a book. Third, - - - - Bowser - 9/28/2006 11:35:52 PM

Bush - "I will not withdraw, even if Laura and Barney are the only ones supporting me." - Bowser - 9/28/2006 4:18:57 PM
- Now he needs the approval of a purple dinosaur? (n/t) - azstrummer - 9/28/2006 5:26:28 PM
  - Right after Laura. As long as he's got them, - - - (n/t) - Bowser - 9/28/2006 7:57:56 PM
- Link to what sounds like a former German dictator's statement. - Bowser - 9/28/2006 4:21:23 PM

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