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Piecing Together the Story of the Weapons That Weren't There - Donald - 9/12/2005 1:26:26 PM
- Old news - Tom Brosz - 9/12/2005 6:31:46 PM
- link issues (n/t) - alcaray - 9/12/2005 4:51:19 PM
  - OK, don't get used to service like this! - alcaray - 9/12/2005 6:10:06 PM
    - This link is better. - Tom Brosz - 9/12/2005 6:16:31 PM
      - Much better! - alcaray - 9/12/2005 6:32:39 PM
- Meanwhile, 1,896 - Donald - 9/12/2005 1:28:45 PM

September 11th - Tom Brosz - 9/11/2005 5:45:22 AM
- ...Passes without incident. - Tom Brosz - 9/12/2005 7:12:16 AM
  - Because Al Qaeda was NEVER a threat.It was all a hoax. - David F Mayer - 9/12/2005 4:22:44 PM
- Cartoon - Tom Brosz - 9/12/2005 1:22:59 AM
- This one bears further reading - Fox - 9/11/2005 4:43:01 PM
- More links - Tom Brosz - 9/11/2005 6:36:51 AM
  - Things I am afraid to say. - Mary Anne - 9/11/2005 4:14:35 PM
    - re: Things I am afraid to say. - Tom Brosz - 9/11/2005 8:29:31 PM
      - I didn't say I would prefer a world without the US in WWII. - Mary Anne - 9/11/2005 9:45:45 PM
        
        Just imagine you have... - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/12/2005 12:37:14 AM
        
        Good post. (n/t) - Eri - 9/12/2005 2:40:49 AM

FEMA Chronology - Tom Brosz - 9/11/2005 8:50:10 PM
- I repeat: FEMA could not rescue a housecat from a tree. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 9/12/2005 12:25:18 PM

Fun Returns to Northern Ireland - David F Mayer - 9/12/2005 12:24:27 PM

More on the Religion of Peace - David F Mayer - 9/11/2005 2:39:06 AM
- re: More on fundamentalism in Islam - Mary Anne - 9/11/2005 2:51:39 PM
  - Not too sure about that conclusion. - Tom Brosz - 9/11/2005 3:56:31 PM
    - The cause of the radicalization of Islam (my 2 cents) - R.L. - 9/12/2005 12:07:36 AM
    - It took several centuries of religious warfare to moderate Christianity. - Mary Anne - 9/11/2005 4:53:21 PM
      - And it ain't moderated yet. - Bowser - 9/11/2005 9:45:58 PM
      - Good points... - Tom Brosz - 9/11/2005 8:37:12 PM
- re: More on religious identity among those who leave a religion. - Mary Anne - 9/11/2005 3:38:02 AM

My thoughts: Part I - DL - 9/10/2005 6:45:27 PM
- re: Levees and Floodwalls - Tom Brosz - 9/10/2005 11:17:22 PM
  - Contingencies and expediency - Fox - 9/11/2005 3:32:40 AM
    - re: Contingencies and expediency - Tom Brosz - 9/11/2005 4:15:09 AM
      - re: Contingencies and expediency - Fox - 9/11/2005 2:50:53 PM
        
        Historical buildings - Tom Brosz - 9/11/2005 4:01:29 PM
        
        Agreed - Fox - 9/11/2005 4:10:00 PM
  - Now that I have had more time to read what you wrotew- I see the key issue. - DL - 9/11/2005 3:16:08 AM
  - Notice my post has not laid any blame at any feet, but what are you doing? Springing like a loyal soldier to the defense of your liege. - DL - 9/11/2005 12:18:18 AM
    - Cripes, pull the other one. - Tom Brosz - 9/11/2005 12:40:56 AM
      - Oh, for christ sake- can you cut the BS even for 2 seconds? - DL - 9/11/2005 2:39:46 AM
        
        Okay, I'll wait. - Tom Brosz - 9/11/2005 3:15:27 AM
        
        re: Okay, I'll wait. - DL - 9/11/2005 3:18:00 AM
        
        Then why the hell did you mention it? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/11/2005 3:21:04 AM
        
        Read the darn post- I say exactly why I mention it - DL - 9/11/2005 3:24:06 AM
  - SELA - Tom Brosz - 9/10/2005 11:30:27 PM
    - The storm surge had nothing to do with Ponchatrain(sp) breaching the flood wall - DL - 9/11/2005 12:17:10 AM
      - re: The storm surge had nothing to do with Ponchatrain(sp) breaching the flood wall - Tom Brosz - 9/11/2005 12:36:12 AM
        
        OIC- I think I see the miscommunication WRT the flooding - DL - 9/11/2005 4:32:27 AM
        
        re: It had nothing to do with torrential rainfall - DL - 9/11/2005 3:34:23 AM
        
        Hint#2, the storm surge passed NO early morning of the 29th. The first levee failed in the afternoon of the 29th at the 17th st location (n/t) - DL - 9/11/2005 3:46:10 AM
        
        re: Actually, 'mid-day' is in two of the references, 'afternoon' in another, so call it 'mid-day' (n/t) - DL - 9/11/2005 3:56:57 AM
        
        So what caused the "topping?" - Tom Brosz - 9/11/2005 4:16:53 AM
        
        Hang on...just read your next post. - Tom Brosz - 9/11/2005 4:18:31 AM
        
        the canals are connected to ponchatrain - DL - 9/11/2005 4:25:28 AM
        
        I did find this... - Tom Brosz - 9/11/2005 4:38:13 AM
        
        Pretty sure - DL - 9/11/2005 5:22:17 AM
        
        re: Whatever the cause - DL - 9/11/2005 2:41:31 AM
        
        Okay... - Tom Brosz - 9/11/2005 3:20:37 AM
        
        Again, go back and read the post - DL - 9/11/2005 3:30:10 AM
- Well considered, well stated... - McFly - 9/10/2005 10:54:04 PM
- re: My thoughts: Part I - gbaikie - 9/10/2005 9:21:04 PM

Help from across the borders - Tom Brosz - 9/10/2005 4:50:21 PM
- German plane carrying Katrina aid turned back - Bowser - 9/10/2005 5:12:00 PM
  - "NATO military rations could carry mad cow disease?" - Lindy - 9/11/2005 4:26:33 AM
- Iraqi troops donate to hurricane victims - Tom Brosz - 9/10/2005 5:05:30 PM
  - Louisiana NG troops coming home from Iraq - Fox - 9/11/2005 3:34:10 PM
    - Correction, re: 155th BCT (Mississippi NG) - Fox - 9/11/2005 3:41:55 PM
  - The Great Levelling - Lindy - 9/11/2005 4:30:47 AM

Timelines - Tom Brosz - 9/8/2005 4:48:46 PM
- A new one from the Associated Press - Tom Brosz - 9/10/2005 6:10:52 PM
- Some items I think belong on a timeline - alcaray - 9/8/2005 10:24:21 PM
  - FEMA - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2005 2:34:03 AM
    - If you could call my attention to the part you don't think I knew? (n/t) - alcaray - 9/9/2005 3:38:25 PM
- Thanks, Tom. - Mary Anne - 9/8/2005 6:12:52 PM
- It is all worth lookig at - FrankC - 9/8/2005 5:10:41 PM
  - The response to Andrew isn't a benchmark? - Fox - 9/8/2005 9:15:28 PM
    - re: The response to Andrew isn't a benchmark? - Lindy - 9/9/2005 4:25:19 AM
    - The flooding is a major factor - FrankC - 9/8/2005 9:44:52 PM
      - 100 year flood - Nick Hoffman - 9/9/2005 4:59:39 PM
  - Another dimension - Robert - 9/8/2005 7:16:31 PM
  - Handled better What/Where? Northridge earthquake (from personal experience) - alcaray - 9/8/2005 6:02:03 PM
    - A very costly disaster - FrankC - 9/8/2005 6:40:02 PM
      - Well, if you don't count the aftershocks. - alcaray - 9/8/2005 7:49:31 PM
  - And that's the $64,000 question: - Tom Brosz - 9/8/2005 5:15:31 PM
    - remember the movie, "I am curious yellow!"........... - Publius - 9/8/2005 7:12:43 PM
      - A hammer without a handle? - Publius - 9/9/2005 1:09:34 PM
      - re: remember the movie, "I am curious yellow!"........... - Tom Brosz - 9/8/2005 10:24:29 PM
      - A Libertarian response - FrankC - 9/8/2005 7:44:34 PM
        
        "Leave it to the archaelogists like Pompei" - Lindy - 9/9/2005 4:33:00 AM
    - If you need a benchmark... - Mary Anne - 9/8/2005 6:47:59 PM

I wonder if the 7,7 Earthquake in the - Johannes - 9/10/2005 12:25:51 AM
- Well, that depends... - Nick Hoffman - 9/10/2005 3:10:07 AM
  - re: Well, that depends... - Johannes - 9/10/2005 6:08:46 PM

Gulf Oil update - Tom Brosz - 9/10/2005 4:55:10 PM

Iraq hurt Katrina response, general says - Donald - 9/10/2005 3:22:04 PM
- Meanwhile: 1,895 - Donald - 9/10/2005 3:23:11 PM

Okay, the jokes on me - FrankC (moderator) - 9/10/2005 1:07:55 AM

Timeline for the draining of New Orleans - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2005 7:31:20 PM
- A couple of predictions... - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2005 8:11:04 PM

What I am holding my breath about... - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2005 6:59:42 AM
- re: What I am holding my breath about... - Alan G. Archer - 9/9/2005 5:33:50 PM
- There have been a handful of foiled plots that we've heard about - alcaray - 9/9/2005 4:50:21 PM
- According to the Left, that is because Al Qaeda is not trying. - David F Mayer - 9/9/2005 1:35:15 PM
  - USINFO: Rock Star Bono Applauds Bush Efforts to Aid Africa - Alan G. Archer - 9/9/2005 4:52:32 PM

Don't hold your breath looking for the environmental movement to get any blame. - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2005 5:21:32 AM
- Well, aren't you blaming them? Do you mean from real sources? (n/t) - et - 9/9/2005 5:38:01 AM
  - A small lesson in the use of the internet for rank amateurs - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2005 6:11:01 AM
    - re: A small lesson in the use of the internet for rank amateurs - Nick Hoffman - 9/9/2005 4:41:55 PM
      - Give me a break. I DO have a life. - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2005 5:16:33 PM
    - How much left-wing jerk-off crud are you willing to slog through? - alcaray - 9/9/2005 4:37:16 PM

Thread moved to Flame - FrankC (moderator) - 9/9/2005 4:39:13 PM

Katrina arrives here - Donald - 9/9/2005 2:45:08 AM
- I can't beleive it has only been two weeks. It seems like months since the storm. - REB - 9/9/2005 12:27:00 PM
- re: Katrina arrives here - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2005 3:36:49 AM
  - re: Katrina arrives here - DOnald - 9/9/2005 4:16:13 AM
    - CV - Robert - 9/9/2005 4:37:23 PM
    - Say, you looking for a job running FEMA? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2005 4:19:41 AM
    - Good for you Donald - Lindy - 9/9/2005 4:19:23 AM

Were the Hams up and running? - carl - 9/6/2005 9:52:26 PM
- FANTASTIC!!!!! - carl - 9/7/2005 1:32:39 PM
- re: Were the Hams up and running? - Fox - 9/7/2005 2:56:10 AM
  - God Bless Them - Lindy - 9/7/2005 3:21:59 AM
    - For the record, Lindy... - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2005 6:21:47 AM
      - Allergies... - R.L. - 9/9/2005 8:01:30 AM
    - Stop it Lindy.... - R.L. - 9/8/2005 6:53:14 PM
      - Chill, RL - Fox - 9/8/2005 9:04:39 PM
        
        "There's probably not a single person...whose decision to vaccinate, or not, will be swayed by it." - R.L. - 9/9/2005 1:27:56 AM
        
        You left out the important part - Fox, as Moderator - 9/9/2005 4:12:19 AM
        
        I attacked the content of the post... - R.L. - 9/9/2005 8:08:44 AM
        
        Yes, you did - Fox - 9/9/2005 1:30:31 PM
        
        Hey, I'm just lazy. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2005 3:45:38 PM
        
        Vaccinations - Lindy - 9/9/2005 4:41:57 AM
        
        re: Vaccinations - R.L. - 9/9/2005 5:06:17 AM
        
        Some data - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2005 6:19:08 AM
- re: Were the Hams up and running? - Tom Brosz - 9/6/2005 10:31:19 PM

Uhhh, anybody consider what happened to drug and organized crime in NO? - carl - 9/9/2005 1:15:52 PM
- re: Uhhh, anybody consider what happened to drug and organized crime in NO? - Jack Herer - 9/9/2005 3:41:14 PM

Meanwhile, in Iraq... - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2005 4:58:38 AM

Oil production update - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2005 4:01:08 AM

A statement from the moderators - Frank / Fox / Robert (moderators all) - 9/9/2005 12:42:05 AM
- re: A statement from the moderators - gbaikie - 9/9/2005 1:02:56 AM
  - Thanks... - Robert - 9/9/2005 3:50:59 AM

The "Swift" - Tom Brosz - 9/7/2005 7:56:02 AM
- Class of ship Should be named TOM!!!! - carl - 9/7/2005 1:35:49 PM
  - "Tom Swift And His High-Speed Aluminum Catamaran!" - Tom Brosz - 9/7/2005 6:14:23 PM
    - Need "REPELTRON SKYWAY" for the La. FLODD AREAS! - carl - 9/8/2005 10:01:19 PM

From disaster to disgrace - Donald - 9/7/2005 10:51:14 PM
- More hindsight - Tom Brosz - 9/8/2005 1:20:00 AM
  - Who is paid to protect it's citizens? Seriously. - Bowser - 9/8/2005 2:56:07 AM
  - re: More hindsight - Donald - 9/8/2005 2:03:18 AM
    - re: More hindsight - Robert - 9/8/2005 4:33:08 AM
      - re: More hindsight - Donald - 9/8/2005 5:26:32 AM
        
        Now THAT was a great post, thank you, and I echo Robert's request to keep it coming - McFly - 9/8/2005 5:32:06 PM
        
        Good start - Robert - 9/8/2005 3:04:37 PM
        
        Timelines - Tom Brosz - 9/8/2005 4:35:57 PM
        
        That's it, Donald. - Tom Brosz - 9/8/2005 6:06:11 AM
        
        Immune to facts, immune to numbers... - Mary Anne - 9/8/2005 1:55:41 PM
        
        "immune to stripping human beings down to their relevant statistical value" - Sam F. - 9/8/2005 5:19:27 PM
        
        Immune to people - Tom Brosz - 9/8/2005 5:14:30 PM
        
        Putting it simply... - Donald - 9/8/2005 1:14:55 PM
        
        Sorry, Robert. Fell off the wagon. - Tom Brosz - 9/8/2005 6:07:44 AM
        
        Well.... - Robert - 9/8/2005 2:04:47 PM
        
        "official message." - Tom Brosz - 9/8/2005 4:32:13 PM
    - neither will the rest of the American people. - FrankC - 9/8/2005 3:01:35 AM
      - Prognostication - Donald - 9/8/2005 4:24:30 AM
        
        More to the point - Donald - 9/8/2005 4:30:57 AM
    - re: More hindsight - Tom Brosz - 9/8/2005 2:42:00 AM
      - As I have stated before... - Donald - 9/8/2005 4:10:19 AM
        
        Playing golf in Arizona - Alan G. Archer - 9/8/2005 12:45:50 PM
        
        What really got me... - ljk - 9/8/2005 4:40:46 PM
        
        There are only a couple of Shakespeare plays about commoners. (n/t) - alcaray - 9/8/2005 7:54:22 PM
        
        Beautiful people and train wrecks... - Mary Anne - 9/8/2005 5:21:44 PM

Interesting conflict brewing here....... - Publius - 9/7/2005 1:57:37 PM
- Richard Simmons Mini Series..... - carl - 9/7/2005 1:59:33 PM
  - It could have been worse - Fox - 9/7/2005 8:03:39 PM
    - Oh Fox........ - Lindy - 9/7/2005 10:33:48 PM
      - What do you think was going on in the convention centre? - Nick Hoffman - 9/8/2005 8:06:37 AM
        
        re: What do you think was going on in the convention centre? - ljk - 9/8/2005 5:06:45 PM

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