Economics and ideology

TB — 7/8/2008 4:03:52 PM (archived)

Maybe, just maybe, the conflicts between nations and social classes are due more to competing economic interests than they are to their ideological preferences.

That would sure put things on a more comfortable level, wouldn't it? If the conflict were ideological, the standard "let's just sit down and chat about it until we can make some kind of deal we can all be happy with" routine doesn't really work very well.

The reason the Cold War is still significant now is that, as you point out, we are still facing "problems" abroad. In fact, to put it a bit more accurately, we are once again facing enemies with a radical ideology utterly incompatible with our freedoms.

And the same damn scripts are being played out by the same people in our country, often in much the same words.

We got lucky with the Soviet Union, electing enough people who believed communism needed to be defeated, not accommodated. I'm hoping our luck holds out with our current adversaries.

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Good article on exactly why John McCain is completely unfit to be Commander-in-Chief of the USA - z - 7/5/2008 4:40:19 PM
- Unbelievable. - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/7/2008 3:04:11 AM
  - The USA is doomed and about to overrun by barbarians?? - z - 7/7/2008 6:47:21 PM
    - Yep. - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/7/2008 10:20:51 PM
      - "freefall property values"? - ER - 7/7/2008 11:23:56 PM
        
        Laugh it up... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/8/2008 9:54:32 PM
        
        You don't need to lecture me... - ER - 7/9/2008 12:23:56 AM
        
        Very aware. - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/9/2008 6:11:42 AM
        
        Oye Gringo... - ER - 7/9/2008 12:34:56 PM
        
        My, aren't we cheerful? - TB - 7/9/2008 4:24:09 AM
        
        You must live on another planet TB. - ER - 7/9/2008 1:37:36 PM
        
        Nope. Same one you do. - TB - 7/9/2008 5:18:46 PM
        
        Anyway, what do you plan to DO about it? - TB - 7/9/2008 8:09:07 PM
        
        I've already outlined my defensive measures in my earlier post. - ER - 7/9/2008 8:33:57 PM
        
        You should still be writing the books... - TB - 7/12/2008 12:32:00 AM
        
        re: "tells me I don't have any and I'm a silly gurly man because I think I do. " - Yeti - 7/11/2008 3:24:47 AM
        
        Really. - TB - 7/11/2008 6:02:43 AM
        
        re: Really. - Yeti - 7/11/2008 3:55:54 PM
        
        re: Really. - TB - 7/11/2008 4:26:22 PM
        
        Chicken quibble clucks again - Yeti - 7/11/2008 5:16:52 PM
        
        PS - Yeti - 7/11/2008 5:27:14 PM
        
        Actually, more like 2006, not 2004 - TB - 7/11/2008 4:32:46 PM
        
        This is the link - Yeti - 7/11/2008 5:21:06 PM
        
        Wow. TB found BigCharts! Wow! - Yeti - 7/11/2008 5:18:34 PM
        
        BTW, success isn't about "defensive measures." It's about offense. (n/t) - TB - 7/9/2008 9:48:55 PM
        
        "Changing drivers" - TB - 7/9/2008 9:47:06 PM
        
        re: "Changing drivers" - ER - 7/9/2008 11:21:48 PM
        
        Go for it. - TB - 7/10/2008 6:02:45 AM
        
        Economy bad? - alcaray - 7/9/2008 5:13:47 PM
        
        And THAT'S what it's about, ER. (n/t) - TB - 7/9/2008 5:19:58 PM
        
        Candide Camera - ER - 7/9/2008 6:07:22 PM
        
        re: Candide Camera - TB - 7/9/2008 7:16:33 PM
        
        re: And THAT'S what it's about, ER. - alcaray - 7/9/2008 5:43:50 PM
        
        Half empty mode. - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/9/2008 6:26:07 AM
      - "Surely the progressive left can't wait.." - Lindy - 7/7/2008 10:43:54 PM
        
        I do hold Bush accountable... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/7/2008 10:50:19 PM
        
        re: I do hold Bush accountable... - Yeti - 7/8/2008 9:42:04 PM
        
        Think... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/9/2008 1:13:26 AM
        
        Well, if that one was 'rich', this is 'priceless' - Yeti - 7/14/2008 2:21:11 AM
        
        Now thats rich... - Yeti - 7/11/2008 3:12:34 AM
  - re: Unbelievable. - Lindy - 7/7/2008 3:29:44 PM
- "The world still looks the same, and history ain't changed" - ER - 7/5/2008 7:53:14 PM
  - re: history ain't changed - TB - 7/7/2008 5:05:50 PM
    - The Right seems to justify supporting any awful dictatorship - z - 7/9/2008 3:38:50 AM
    - At least you're not re-writing history. - ER - 7/7/2008 11:05:25 PM
      - re: re-writing history. - TB - 7/8/2008 1:51:30 AM
        
        Lost history - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/8/2008 3:49:35 AM
        
        No need to apologize. - ER - 7/8/2008 3:16:50 AM
        
        "Still waiting for the dominoes to fall" - TB - 7/8/2008 4:30:46 AM
        
        Huffy? - ER - 7/8/2008 12:42:19 PM
        
        Economics and ideology - TB - 7/8/2008 4:03:52 PM
        
        Xenophobia fatigue. - ER - 7/8/2008 5:18:52 PM
        
        re: Xenophobia fatigue. - TB - 7/8/2008 5:59:33 PM
        
        I'm tired already. (n/t) - ER - 7/8/2008 6:48:45 PM
    - Oh, and given our potential new "enlightened" foreign policy: so what ABOUT Tibet? - TB - 7/7/2008 5:14:56 PM
      - We can't afford to tick off the PRC. - ER - 7/7/2008 11:13:09 PM
  - The communist China - Raoul - 7/6/2008 8:17:00 AM
    - What about Tibet, Raoul? (n/t) - ER - 7/6/2008 9:26:26 AM
      - re: 2 distinctive views and - (anonymous) - 7/6/2008 11:02:57 AM
        
        Now, rarely have I seen - Yeti - 7/7/2008 2:22:10 AM
        
        Athletes and trade - Raoul - 7/7/2008 5:45:03 AM
        
        re: Athletes and trade - Yeti - 7/7/2008 2:45:33 PM
        
        Athletes and domestic politics - ER - 7/7/2008 11:21:23 PM
        
        Really. - TB - 7/8/2008 2:48:50 AM
        
        I stand corrected. - ER - 7/8/2008 3:21:20 AM
        
        Raoul - Yeti - 7/7/2008 2:38:46 AM
        
        The US, and many other countries simply have no lesson in human rights to give to China (n/t) - Raoul - 7/7/2008 5:35:24 AM
        
        Bull-pucky - Yeti - 7/7/2008 2:44:37 PM
        
        Oh oh... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/7/2008 10:04:45 PM
        
        To criticize - Raoul - 7/7/2008 8:56:45 PM
        
        re: To criticize - Yeti - 7/8/2008 12:25:59 AM
        
        I think that with our obvious support for torture, etc... - alcaray - 7/7/2008 4:57:37 PM
        
        re: I think that with our obvious support for torture, etc... - Yeti - 7/8/2008 12:26:51 AM
        
        Flame-ON! (n/t) - nick hoffman - 7/7/2008 3:47:28 PM
        
        I disagree - Yeti - 7/7/2008 4:25:42 PM
        
        re: 2 distinctive views and - ER - 7/6/2008 12:18:29 PM
        
        Truman did not dispute the Chinese takeover. - Bowser - 7/6/2008 9:22:56 PM
- Superb article. The analysis is right on. (n/t) - Bowser - 7/5/2008 6:32:23 PM

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