I think that with our obvious support for torture, etc...

alcaray — 7/7/2008 4:57:37 PM (archived)

...that the world is less likely to accept America's leadership on the subject of human rights than it did before. I think this is what Raoul was getting at.

Further, I recommend that you not parse too closely, the words of someone who speaks English as a second language.

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Good article on exactly why John McCain is completely unfit to be Commander-in-Chief of the USA - z - 7/5/2008 4:40:19 PM
- Unbelievable. - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/7/2008 3:04:11 AM
  - The USA is doomed and about to overrun by barbarians?? - z - 7/7/2008 6:47:21 PM
    - Yep. - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/7/2008 10:20:51 PM
      - "freefall property values"? - ER - 7/7/2008 11:23:56 PM
        
        Laugh it up... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/8/2008 9:54:32 PM
        
        You don't need to lecture me... - ER - 7/9/2008 12:23:56 AM
        
        Very aware. - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/9/2008 6:11:42 AM
        
        Oye Gringo... - ER - 7/9/2008 12:34:56 PM
        
        My, aren't we cheerful? - TB - 7/9/2008 4:24:09 AM
        
        You must live on another planet TB. - ER - 7/9/2008 1:37:36 PM
        
        Nope. Same one you do. - TB - 7/9/2008 5:18:46 PM
        
        Anyway, what do you plan to DO about it? - TB - 7/9/2008 8:09:07 PM
        
        I've already outlined my defensive measures in my earlier post. - ER - 7/9/2008 8:33:57 PM
        
        You should still be writing the books... - TB - 7/12/2008 12:32:00 AM
        
        re: "tells me I don't have any and I'm a silly gurly man because I think I do. " - Yeti - 7/11/2008 3:24:47 AM
        
        Really. - TB - 7/11/2008 6:02:43 AM
        
        re: Really. - Yeti - 7/11/2008 3:55:54 PM
        
        re: Really. - TB - 7/11/2008 4:26:22 PM
        
        Chicken quibble clucks again - Yeti - 7/11/2008 5:16:52 PM
        
        PS - Yeti - 7/11/2008 5:27:14 PM
        
        Actually, more like 2006, not 2004 - TB - 7/11/2008 4:32:46 PM
        
        This is the link - Yeti - 7/11/2008 5:21:06 PM
        
        Wow. TB found BigCharts! Wow! - Yeti - 7/11/2008 5:18:34 PM
        
        BTW, success isn't about "defensive measures." It's about offense. (n/t) - TB - 7/9/2008 9:48:55 PM
        
        "Changing drivers" - TB - 7/9/2008 9:47:06 PM
        
        re: "Changing drivers" - ER - 7/9/2008 11:21:48 PM
        
        Go for it. - TB - 7/10/2008 6:02:45 AM
        
        Economy bad? - alcaray - 7/9/2008 5:13:47 PM
        
        And THAT'S what it's about, ER. (n/t) - TB - 7/9/2008 5:19:58 PM
        
        Candide Camera - ER - 7/9/2008 6:07:22 PM
        
        re: Candide Camera - TB - 7/9/2008 7:16:33 PM
        
        re: And THAT'S what it's about, ER. - alcaray - 7/9/2008 5:43:50 PM
        
        Half empty mode. - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/9/2008 6:26:07 AM
      - "Surely the progressive left can't wait.." - Lindy - 7/7/2008 10:43:54 PM
        
        I do hold Bush accountable... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/7/2008 10:50:19 PM
        
        re: I do hold Bush accountable... - Yeti - 7/8/2008 9:42:04 PM
        
        Think... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/9/2008 1:13:26 AM
        
        Well, if that one was 'rich', this is 'priceless' - Yeti - 7/14/2008 2:21:11 AM
        
        Now thats rich... - Yeti - 7/11/2008 3:12:34 AM
  - re: Unbelievable. - Lindy - 7/7/2008 3:29:44 PM
- "The world still looks the same, and history ain't changed" - ER - 7/5/2008 7:53:14 PM
  - re: history ain't changed - TB - 7/7/2008 5:05:50 PM
    - The Right seems to justify supporting any awful dictatorship - z - 7/9/2008 3:38:50 AM
    - At least you're not re-writing history. - ER - 7/7/2008 11:05:25 PM
      - re: re-writing history. - TB - 7/8/2008 1:51:30 AM
        
        Lost history - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/8/2008 3:49:35 AM
        
        No need to apologize. - ER - 7/8/2008 3:16:50 AM
        
        "Still waiting for the dominoes to fall" - TB - 7/8/2008 4:30:46 AM
        
        Huffy? - ER - 7/8/2008 12:42:19 PM
        
        Economics and ideology - TB - 7/8/2008 4:03:52 PM
        
        Xenophobia fatigue. - ER - 7/8/2008 5:18:52 PM
        
        re: Xenophobia fatigue. - TB - 7/8/2008 5:59:33 PM
        
        I'm tired already. (n/t) - ER - 7/8/2008 6:48:45 PM
    - Oh, and given our potential new "enlightened" foreign policy: so what ABOUT Tibet? - TB - 7/7/2008 5:14:56 PM
      - We can't afford to tick off the PRC. - ER - 7/7/2008 11:13:09 PM
  - The communist China - Raoul - 7/6/2008 8:17:00 AM
    - What about Tibet, Raoul? (n/t) - ER - 7/6/2008 9:26:26 AM
      - re: 2 distinctive views and - (anonymous) - 7/6/2008 11:02:57 AM
        
        Now, rarely have I seen - Yeti - 7/7/2008 2:22:10 AM
        
        Athletes and trade - Raoul - 7/7/2008 5:45:03 AM
        
        re: Athletes and trade - Yeti - 7/7/2008 2:45:33 PM
        
        Athletes and domestic politics - ER - 7/7/2008 11:21:23 PM
        
        Really. - TB - 7/8/2008 2:48:50 AM
        
        I stand corrected. - ER - 7/8/2008 3:21:20 AM
        
        Raoul - Yeti - 7/7/2008 2:38:46 AM
        
        The US, and many other countries simply have no lesson in human rights to give to China (n/t) - Raoul - 7/7/2008 5:35:24 AM
        
        Bull-pucky - Yeti - 7/7/2008 2:44:37 PM
        
        Oh oh... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/7/2008 10:04:45 PM
        
        To criticize - Raoul - 7/7/2008 8:56:45 PM
        
        re: To criticize - Yeti - 7/8/2008 12:25:59 AM
        
        I think that with our obvious support for torture, etc... - alcaray - 7/7/2008 4:57:37 PM
        
        re: I think that with our obvious support for torture, etc... - Yeti - 7/8/2008 12:26:51 AM
        
        Flame-ON! (n/t) - nick hoffman - 7/7/2008 3:47:28 PM
        
        I disagree - Yeti - 7/7/2008 4:25:42 PM
        
        re: 2 distinctive views and - ER - 7/6/2008 12:18:29 PM
        
        Truman did not dispute the Chinese takeover. - Bowser - 7/6/2008 9:22:56 PM
- Superb article. The analysis is right on. (n/t) - Bowser - 7/5/2008 6:32:23 PM

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