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A Blast from the Past - Eric - 12/22/2007 5:23:39 PM
- How'd he get so dumb between then and now? (n/t) - Eri - 12/22/2007 6:03:18 PM
  - Sorry to be cynical but....... - FrankC - 12/24/2007 4:11:06 AM
  - It's a different Cheney. - Bowser - 12/22/2007 8:57:23 PM
    - re: It's a different Cheney. - Buck Galaxy - 12/23/2007 8:08:54 AM
      - May be a bit different than the headlines may have led one to believe. - Bowser - 12/24/2007 3:20:34 AM
  - re: How'd he get so dumb between then and now? - gbaikie - 12/22/2007 6:41:12 PM

Hillary going to figure how "not be the frog in the cold water anymore" - gbaikie - 12/24/2007 2:51:38 AM

Early odds in U.S. presidential race - gbaikie - 12/24/2007 1:07:48 AM

Journalism school update - TB - 12/22/2007 6:52:34 PM
- re: "a license to publish news" - Fox - 12/23/2007 3:31:11 PM
  - Credentials - TB - 12/23/2007 7:56:11 PM
- re: Journalism school update - Robert - 12/22/2007 9:38:00 PM
  - re: Journalism - TB - 12/22/2007 11:03:03 PM
    - A journalist informs. - Raoul - 12/23/2007 12:02:23 AM

Biggest spenders in congress are still Republicans - alcaray - 12/21/2007 8:44:57 PM
- That's the only reason anyone elects Republicans (n/t) - Eri - 12/22/2007 4:05:19 PM

HOW MANY More Years will it take to BAN Incadescent Light Bulbs? - carl - 12/20/2007 5:24:17 PM
- CFL's - azstrummer - 12/20/2007 9:27:57 PM
- I buy the new sorts mainly... - alcaray - 12/20/2007 8:13:55 PM
  - If they're such a great deal, why the need to ban incandescents? (n/t) - TB - 12/20/2007 8:45:09 PM
    - government-sponsored energy independence? - alcaray - 12/21/2007 1:00:25 AM
    - Because the post turtles need something to do. - TAFKASE - 12/20/2007 10:37:29 PM
    - Inertia, ignorance, innumeracy and inability to calculate value, shortsightedness, willful perversity - Robert - 12/20/2007 9:02:32 PM
      - re: Inertia, ignorance, innumeracy and inability to calculate value, shortsightedness, willful perversity - SDAI-Tech1 - 12/21/2007 1:02:26 AM
      - How about arrogant authoritarianism? - TB - 12/20/2007 10:10:07 PM
        
        Bush is promoting CFLs? Nonsense! (n/t) - Bowser - 12/21/2007 2:53:41 AM
      - ...mercury... - Mary Anne - 12/20/2007 9:40:00 PM
        
        Fear ye not the mercury doomsayers - Tony - 12/21/2007 4:49:21 PM
        
        Not a nuclear power station. - TB - 12/21/2007 7:49:06 PM
        
        You have put your finger on my fear precisely. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 12/21/2007 5:37:18 PM
        
        Thousands! You mean millions - probably billions. - SDAI-Tech1 - 12/21/2007 12:04:55 AM
        
        Thousands -- because they last so long. - Mary Anne - 12/21/2007 1:59:04 AM
        
        re: Thousands -- because they last so long. - SDAI-Tech1 - 12/21/2007 10:57:52 PM
        
        re: Thousands! You mean millions - probably billions. - Marcia - 12/21/2007 1:09:24 AM
        
        re: ...mercury... - exactly. - Marcia - 12/20/2007 10:40:08 PM
        
        re: ...mercury... - TB - 12/20/2007 10:19:53 PM
        
        re: ...mercury... - those too! (n/t) - Marcia - 12/20/2007 10:42:16 PM
      - Do you think the police should shoot out the bulbs, or the people, or both? - Bowser - 12/20/2007 9:36:14 PM

After 6 losing years, "Bush, Rice fret over alliesâ€™ Afghanistan fatigue" - Bowser - 12/21/2007 4:16:01 PM
- re: After 6 losing years, "Bush, Rice fret over alliesâ€™ Afghanistan fatigue" - Lindy - 12/21/2007 7:38:22 PM
- And Gates blames Congress for losing the wars. - Bowser - 12/21/2007 4:42:24 PM
  - Current Cost of War - $480 Billion! (n/t) - Jack Herer - 12/21/2007 6:06:05 PM
    - War costs may exceed $2.4 trillion - Jack Herer - 12/21/2007 6:12:27 PM

35 mpg required by 2020 â€” Bush says that he will sign bill - Lindy - 12/19/2007 5:23:30 AM
- If you like the economy now... - SDAI-Tech1 - 12/20/2007 1:34:57 AM
  - Hmm - azstrummer - 12/20/2007 4:43:12 AM
    - Look at auto sales... - SDAI-Tech1 - 12/21/2007 12:31:30 AM
      - Some of what you say - azstrummer - 12/21/2007 6:13:02 PM
- My hybrid gets 45mpg - Buck Galaxy - 12/19/2007 6:52:50 AM
  - re: My hybrid gets 45mpg - TB - 12/19/2007 7:29:47 AM
    - Thanks for the charts - Buck Galaxy - 12/19/2007 8:37:49 AM
      - That the best you got? - TB - 12/19/2007 6:43:58 PM
        
        So are you saying the Bush family has no big oil connections? - Buck Galaxy - 12/21/2007 4:01:18 AM
        
        re: So are you saying the Bush family has no big oil connections? - gbaikie - 12/21/2007 5:14:47 PM
        
        "Who's going to pay for the roads when gas taxes start dropping?" - azstrummer - 12/19/2007 7:01:18 PM
        
        You know... - TB - 12/19/2007 8:25:37 PM
      - re: Thanks for the charts - gbaikie - 12/19/2007 1:29:35 PM
        
        Well, since your going to HAARP on it... - McFly - 12/19/2007 3:31:53 PM

NON-BELIEVER ALERT: Republicans and Democrats P.O. Non-believers - Ima Liberal - 12/19/2007 11:08:06 PM
- It's incredible that religious americans would believe atheists are not moral persons (n/t) - Raoul - 12/20/2007 7:41:28 PM
- re: NON-BELIEVER LINK - Ima Liberal - 12/19/2007 11:12:40 PM
  - NON-BELIEVER LINK - Ima Disheartend - 12/19/2007 11:14:12 PM
    - Awww... - Jody - 12/20/2007 3:18:46 PM
    - There's an a-hole in there somewhere. - LS - 12/20/2007 4:30:31 AM
      - dear Liza, dear Liza... (n/t) - Fox - 12/21/2007 12:37:56 AM
        
        LOL (n/t) - J - 12/21/2007 11:53:01 AM

Energy insanity continues... - TB - 12/17/2007 6:27:30 PM
- At gunpoint? - Bowser - 12/18/2007 1:26:17 AM
  - Violence is the basis of government & law - SDAI-Tech1 - 12/18/2007 2:50:41 AM
    - And what's the basis for anarchy? - Robert - 12/20/2007 9:09:47 PM
      - "anti-government fanatics" - SDAI-Tech1 - 12/21/2007 5:42:53 AM
      - Anarchy is unfocused power - Lee - 12/21/2007 12:12:06 AM
  - Um...yeah. - TB - 12/18/2007 1:41:13 AM
    - some evironmentalists - azstrummer - 12/18/2007 3:01:12 AM
      - re: some environmentalists - TB - 12/18/2007 5:02:33 AM
        
        Why the heck - azstrummer - 12/18/2007 4:02:32 PM
- Start buying bulbs en masse - SDAI-Tech1 - 12/17/2007 11:31:25 PM
- Oh the humanity - azstrummer - 12/17/2007 7:28:39 PM
  - Wouldn't building a few more power plants be easier? - Lee - 12/19/2007 3:43:42 AM
    - There isn't any poltical power to be had in an energy abundance. - TB - 12/19/2007 6:08:30 AM
  - Not surprised you'd approve. - TB - 12/17/2007 8:15:04 PM
    - My decisions - azstrummer - 12/17/2007 9:01:57 PM
      - Your decisions, and everybody else's. - TB - 12/17/2007 11:03:01 PM
        
        Tom, let me make this clear - azstrummer - 12/18/2007 2:43:36 AM
        
        What's our "fair share"? - Lee - 12/19/2007 3:57:36 AM
        
        "I do have a great deal of humility..." - McFly - 12/18/2007 5:46:15 AM
        
        re: "I do have a great deal of humility..." - azstrummer - 12/18/2007 3:44:27 PM
        
        My apologies, Art. I was needlessly unkind and smug. (n/t) - McFly - 12/19/2007 3:44:55 PM
        
        No problem. - azstrummer - 12/19/2007 7:07:26 PM
        
        "I do have a great deal of humility...but..." - TB - 12/18/2007 5:16:04 AM
        
        The liberals want incadesent bulbs outlawed so they can steal flourecents from their local public restroom. - TAFKASE - 12/17/2007 11:17:17 PM
        
        Not the public restroom... - SDAI-Tech1 - 12/18/2007 2:55:37 AM
        
        Public restrooms - azstrummer - 12/18/2007 2:45:53 AM
        
        Be careful... - SDAI-Tech1 - 12/18/2007 2:57:29 AM
        
        Never said Craig was a homosexual - azstrummer - 12/18/2007 3:04:02 AM
        
        So much for executing the innocent. - Lee - 12/19/2007 4:33:29 AM
        
        He plead guilty. (n/t) - alcaray - 12/19/2007 11:54:00 PM
        
        Normally I wouldn't respond - azstrummer - 12/19/2007 7:11:01 PM
        
        Gays are normal. Craig is abnormal. Very logical. (n/t) - Dr. Spock - 12/18/2007 5:06:32 PM
        
        Would you go to an airport restroom to find love? - alcaray - 12/18/2007 6:49:27 PM
    - re: Not surprised you'd approve. - gbaikie - 12/17/2007 9:01:57 PM
      - Cut it out... - SDAI-Tech1 - 12/18/2007 12:06:33 AM
        
        Who wouldn't want Grandma Moses to be President? - TAFKASE - 12/18/2007 12:13:04 AM
- Soon they will demand that we all switch to LED from fluoresent - TAFKASE - 12/17/2007 7:05:40 PM

Preparations for nukier war in Israel - Adam Bomber - 12/20/2007 4:53:55 PM
- re: Preparations for nukier war in Israel - gbaikie - 12/20/2007 5:43:30 PM

Good news - bad news dept. - "Bush orders cuts in nuclear stockpile" - Bowser - 12/19/2007 6:23:02 AM
- Sounds like just good news, actually. - TB - 12/19/2007 6:56:07 PM
  - Shouldn't there be a reason for bombing Iran? - Bowser - 12/19/2007 11:02:48 PM
    - As I've pointed out more than once... - TB - 12/19/2007 11:33:38 PM
      - Bush, Cheney & Rice threatened Iran - "all options". Revising history must amuse you. - Bowser - 12/19/2007 11:47:31 PM
        
        Well, you bet money on it. We'll see how it goes. (n/t) - TB - 12/20/2007 4:39:18 AM
        
        No comment on denying the threats from Bush. & Cheney & Rice? (n/t) - Bowser - 12/20/2007 6:02:27 AM
        
        re: comment - TB - 12/20/2007 5:14:35 PM

NON-BELIEVER ALERT: The pope conspires with muslims - Ima Liberal - 12/18/2007 5:29:38 PM
- MODERATOR needed - Lindy - 12/19/2007 1:19:32 AM
  - Sorry, but no - Fox, deliberately NOT moderating - 12/19/2007 6:17:50 PM
    - He needs 4 or 5 names. - Bowser - 12/19/2007 11:30:09 PM
    - You mean its not funny that someone who is an admitted liberal would issue NON-BLIEVER ALLERTS? - TAFKASE - 12/19/2007 7:20:48 PM
      - Yes, that's what I mean - Fox - 12/20/2007 1:56:43 AM
        
        try "too" hard. - RobVG - 12/20/2007 3:15:46 AM
        
        Snicker. - Eri - 12/20/2007 3:33:13 AM
        
        Half-asleep *and* distracted - Fox - 12/20/2007 1:22:42 PM
      - REAL NON-BELIEVER ALERT: Cross (Opps) over and vote for Huckabee in Iowa!!! - Ima Liberal - 12/19/2007 9:47:32 PM
- NON-BELIEVER ALERT: The pope attacks the environmental movement. Surely this man is the Servant of Bush. - Ima Liberal - 12/18/2007 5:34:10 PM
  - It's his job to preach against pagan cults. (n/t) - Lee - 12/19/2007 4:44:56 AM
    - All pagan cults but his own, that is. (n/t) - FOx - 12/19/2007 6:18:39 PM
      - But of course. - Lee - 12/20/2007 4:43:52 AM
  - Did you spot the polar bear photo again!!! LOL! (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 12/19/2007 3:45:37 AM
  - re: NON-BELIEVER ALERT: The pope attacks the environmental movement. Surely this man is the Servant of Bush. - James Brown - 12/18/2007 6:26:17 PM

Bush's drug bill. Or, $70 billion and all we get is more heroin. - Bowser - 12/19/2007 11:18:24 PM

I'm suprised nobody has mentioned the Lieberman endorsement. - TAFKASE - 12/17/2007 7:15:44 PM
- The Senator from Israel. - Bowser - 12/18/2007 1:30:36 AM
- Just heard about it - Fox - 12/18/2007 12:35:52 AM
- Lieberman is an "un-person" now. - TB - 12/17/2007 8:00:36 PM
  - And the Republicans would never have had to get him re-elected senator. (n/t) - alcaray - 12/18/2007 7:00:30 PM
    - Republicans? Nice try. - TB - 12/18/2007 7:46:09 PM
      - You think he would have won without the Republican donations and if the Republicans had voted Republican? - alcaray - 12/18/2007 10:51:06 PM
  - Nah, Lieberman would be unelectable as Prez - Eri - 12/18/2007 2:48:07 AM
  - very funny indeed! - TAFKASE - 12/17/2007 9:18:05 PM
    - I don't have a "guy" yet. - TB - 12/17/2007 10:08:31 PM
      - I know. - TAFKASE - 12/17/2007 10:15:29 PM
        
        Romney "marriage is between a man and a woman and a woman and a woman..." - Buck Galaxy - 12/18/2007 4:50:54 AM
        
        Classic bigotry from the left. - TAFKASE - 12/18/2007 5:04:35 PM
        
        I don't follow you. What was the bigotry in Buck's post? (n/t) - alcaray - 12/19/2007 6:37:02 AM
- Most likely - azstrummer - 12/17/2007 7:31:03 PM

Open season on Iraq - "Turkish military claims PKK losses" - Bowser - 12/19/2007 3:56:19 AM

Peter Jackson to direct Hobbit - yay! - Laurie Street - 12/18/2007 9:56:20 PM

New Jersey to become first state in four decades to abolish death ... - Tony - 12/14/2007 8:30:44 PM
- Praise NO god! The lives of 6 condemed axe murderers have been spared,.. - Ima Liberal - 12/17/2007 9:33:19 PM
- Good for New Joisey! - Eri - 12/15/2007 4:08:20 PM
- Living in NJ is DEATH! - carl - 12/15/2007 2:50:58 PM
  - Offtopic, but quite true... (n/t) - ARRELL - 12/17/2007 1:39:31 AM
- I'm all for abolishing death - Buck Galaxy - 12/15/2007 1:52:06 AM
  - I've been against capital punishment since I was a teenager - Eri - 12/15/2007 4:17:21 PM
    - re: I've been against capital punishment since I was a teenager - Lindy - 12/16/2007 4:59:53 AM
    - Sounds kinda chicken. - Lee - 12/16/2007 2:18:21 AM
      - If you ever wind up in prison Lee... - McFly - 12/16/2007 7:25:44 PM
        
        It'll never happen. - Lee - 12/17/2007 12:16:34 AM
        
        DNA evidence is repeatedly freeing people unjustly convicted.... - ARRELL - 12/17/2007 1:38:17 AM
        
        So by your own admission - Lee - 12/18/2007 1:02:12 AM
        
        Well said.... (n/t) - ARRELL - 12/16/2007 7:32:10 PM
      - Execution of the innocent - Buck Galaxy - 12/16/2007 9:05:23 AM
        
        Numbers - TB - 12/18/2007 6:34:52 PM
        
        re: Execution of the innocent - Marcia - 12/17/2007 2:26:21 AM
        
        Further note - gbaikie - 12/17/2007 1:18:50 AM
        
        What do you mean by innocent? - Lee - 12/17/2007 12:21:27 AM
        
        So you like the chinese system, then... - ARRELL - 12/17/2007 4:04:07 AM
        
        Stealing a candy bar is a bit different - Lee - 12/17/2007 12:23:52 PM
        
        Not guilty - Mary Anne - 12/17/2007 2:42:50 AM
        
        re: Execution of the innocent - gbaikie - 12/16/2007 11:32:24 AM
        
        The number that we know of is a good deal smaller than the total number. (n/t) - alcaray - 12/16/2007 7:40:11 PM
        
        re: The number that we know of is a good deal smaller than the total number. - gbaikie - 12/16/2007 9:27:06 PM
        
        Buck said 45 was the number and you did not challenge him. - alcaray - 12/18/2007 4:10:38 AM
        
        re: Buck said 45 was the number and you did not challenge him. - gbaikie - 12/18/2007 6:37:04 AM
        
        re: Buck said 45 was the number and you did not challenge him. - alcaray - 12/18/2007 7:02:19 AM
        
        re: Buck said 45 was the number and you did not challenge him. - gbaikie - 12/18/2007 9:54:16 AM
        
        "If that is true, it's a pretty insignificant number- ".... - ARRELL - 12/16/2007 2:21:54 PM
        
        re: "If that is true, it's a pretty insignificant number- ".... - gbaikie - 12/16/2007 10:27:50 PM
        
        As usual... - Arrell - 12/17/2007 1:33:30 AM
      - Draconian measures - Lindy - 12/16/2007 5:06:27 AM
        
        Crime pays. - Lee - 12/17/2007 12:31:52 AM
      - Good point - Eri - 12/16/2007 2:53:23 AM
- re: New Jersey to become first state in four decades to abolish death ... - James Brown - 12/15/2007 12:00:11 AM
  - You'll never get the death penalty off the table in Texas! - Eri - 12/15/2007 4:10:30 PM
    - Dems Fightin' words!!.....;) (n/t) - Jody - 12/15/2007 5:10:09 PM
      - Ummm hmmm - Eri - 12/15/2007 7:11:28 PM

What, praise no god, will they do to these poor animals next? - Ima Liberal - 12/18/2007 5:24:31 PM

Academia update... - TB - 12/18/2007 1:22:33 AM
- Islam in the US gets so many breaks. - Bowser - 12/18/2007 6:21:15 AM
  - Get serious. - TB - 12/18/2007 3:50:11 PM
- Religion over racquetball? Blasphemy! - azstrummer - 12/18/2007 2:24:52 AM
- good for them. - Ima Liberal - 12/18/2007 1:26:51 AM

Morgan Stanley Seems to Be A Bit Concerned - azstrummer - 12/13/2007 2:24:57 PM
- Marriages, families, tax revenues fall victim to wave of foreclosures - Lindy - 12/14/2007 5:45:50 AM
  - Yeah but look at all the pre-Christmas sales! - Ima Liberal - 12/17/2007 10:29:36 PM
    - re: Yeah but look at all the pre-Christmas sales! - azstrummer - 12/18/2007 2:46:44 AM
- re: Morgan Stanley Seems to Be A Bit Concerned - SDAI-Tech1 - 12/14/2007 12:39:06 AM
- re: Morgan Stanley - TB - 12/13/2007 6:42:02 PM
  - growth - azstrummer - 12/13/2007 7:45:47 PM
    - Well said Art (n/t) - James Brown - 12/15/2007 4:10:43 PM
    - I don't pick the statistics. - TB - 12/14/2007 12:08:55 AM
      - Tax system - azstrummer - 12/14/2007 3:23:35 PM
        
        re: Tax system - James Brown - 12/15/2007 4:22:31 PM
        
        Rebates - TB - 12/15/2007 5:44:35 PM
        
        Gee, I might even be able to take a vacation or save $$ under the Fair Tax System. - Eri - 12/16/2007 4:24:07 AM
        
        re: Tax system - TB - 12/14/2007 7:16:18 PM
        
        One more thing on "box stores" - TB - 12/14/2007 7:35:42 PM
        
        I don't howl about Wal-Mart because they're not Union - Eri - 12/16/2007 4:26:59 AM
        
        That's an odd statement. - TB - 12/17/2007 2:16:17 AM
        
        And something to check out... - TB - 12/17/2007 2:17:23 AM
    - You must be against illegal immigration. - TAFKASE - 12/13/2007 7:57:11 PM
      - re: You must be against illegal immigration. - azstrummer - 12/13/2007 10:48:25 PM
- Dont tell TB. Everything is rosy. (n/t) - Tony - 12/13/2007 6:18:46 PM
- "the latest report is written in tones that may is rattle the fast-diminishing band of optimists." - Lindy - 12/13/2007 4:04:26 PM
- There could be a recession in 2008. - TAFKASE - 12/13/2007 3:41:52 PM
  - re: There could be a recession in 2008. - Lindy - 12/13/2007 4:08:46 PM
    - If they do stall, look for the stall to start in Europe. - TAFKASE - 12/13/2007 7:15:50 PM

Meanwhile, back in the Arctic... - TB - 12/17/2007 11:48:31 PM
- if you look at that 2nd picture just right...You can see the face of Al Gore as the light of the holy spirit shines down on him! - John the Environmentalist - 12/18/2007 12:10:56 AM

Bush send troops to invade Mexico with chemical weapons. - Ima Liberal - 12/17/2007 9:39:24 PM

Dems cave on spending - gbaikie - 12/13/2007 8:12:49 PM
- It appears they are more interested in the welfare of the troops than Bush. - Bowser - 12/13/2007 10:53:14 PM
  - It says they don't know how to count. (n/t) - Eri - 12/14/2007 4:12:17 AM
  - re: It appears they are more interested in the welfare of the troops than Bush. - gbaikie - 12/14/2007 1:47:44 AM
    - Neocon turns apologist. - Eri - 12/14/2007 4:15:43 AM
      - re: Neocon turns apologist. - gbaikie - 12/14/2007 9:07:30 AM
        
        re: Neocon turns apologist. - gbaikie - 12/14/2007 11:46:29 AM
      - The plan - reduce troop strength to 25,000 by September, 2003. - Bowser - 12/14/2007 4:28:54 AM
  - Yeah, that must be it. - TB - 12/14/2007 12:34:19 AM
    - What has the US gotten for all that money? Serious question. - Bowser - 12/14/2007 1:20:55 AM
      - re: What has the US gotten for all that money? - TB - 12/14/2007 5:08:21 AM
      - re: What has the US gotten for all that money? Serious question. - gbaikie - 12/14/2007 2:16:30 AM
        
        OK. I'll try to take that seriously. - Bowser - 12/14/2007 2:58:01 AM
        
        re: OK. I'll try to take that seriously. - gbaikie - 12/14/2007 3:16:48 AM
- re: Dems cave on spending - gbaikie - 12/13/2007 8:23:59 PM
  - You need a lesson in Washington politics - Eri - 12/14/2007 4:18:30 AM
    - re: You need a lesson in Washington politics - gbaikie - 12/14/2007 9:22:07 AM
      - re: You need a lesson in Washington politics - Eri - 12/15/2007 4:43:17 AM
        
        re: You need a lesson in Washington politics - gbaikie - 12/15/2007 11:52:05 AM
        
        Everyone is constantly dealing in Washington - Eri - 12/15/2007 4:28:50 PM

Agreement at the UN climate change conference - Raoul - 12/15/2007 9:08:29 AM

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