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Man With Weapon In JSC (NASA-Houston) Building - REB - 4/20/2007 7:39:48 PM
- Update: 2 dead, including gunman. - TB - 4/21/2007 12:43:08 AM
  - Just days after the school shootings...S..t!...I'm damn angry and I'm sick and tired of seeing America turned into a shooting gallery! - Jacob Samorodin - 4/21/2007 5:48:35 PM
    - Jacob -You just don't get it. What's wrong with your perception? - Daniel - 4/22/2007 3:19:06 PM
      - Seeing through one lens, exemplified. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 4/22/2007 4:02:46 PM
        
        Indeed - Daniel - 4/22/2007 4:26:06 PM
        
        The best journalism is several photographers competing. - TB - 4/22/2007 7:47:09 PM
        
        So what? - Daniel - 4/22/2007 8:13:49 PM
        
        Touche. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 4/22/2007 6:52:20 PM
    - The dangers of seeing things through only one lens. - Mary Anne - 4/22/2007 2:59:00 AM
    - The Founding Fathers' intent. - Lee - 4/21/2007 11:11:52 PM
    - I hope you feel better. - Mary Anne - 4/21/2007 9:28:16 PM
- Glad to hear there aren't any known hostages... - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/20/2007 8:21:57 PM
- SWAT Team just showed up. - REB - 4/20/2007 7:59:52 PM
  - So did JimO - Robert - 4/20/2007 8:07:01 PM
    - I heard him too. I got an update from my coworker. - REB - 4/20/2007 8:18:08 PM
      - So far nothing has happened. - REB - 4/20/2007 8:53:09 PM
        
        JimO is on again. "Lets hope it stays boring." - REB - 4/20/2007 8:58:19 PM

Petraeus - "Modest progress". The news seems to be in what we don't read. - Bowser - 4/22/2007 2:40:23 PM
- "Not reading those." I have been. - TB - 4/22/2007 7:41:07 PM

An Administration's Epic Collapse - folcwine - 4/21/2007 3:01:57 AM
- Bush the Younger - claude - 4/21/2007 8:08:17 PM
  - Bush the Youngest - ER - 4/21/2007 8:41:01 PM
    - George W. and personality characteristics. - Bowser - 4/21/2007 10:44:01 PM
      - I take the pronouncements of psychologists with a grain of salt. - ER - 4/21/2007 11:25:26 PM
        
        Certainly a wise attitude, and a bit of an overgeneralization. - Bowser - 4/22/2007 12:04:08 AM
        
        seriously, folks... - pops - 4/22/2007 12:12:41 AM
        
        That story is bogus. - ER - 4/22/2007 12:48:09 AM
        
        re: That story is bogus. - pops - 4/22/2007 1:46:21 AM
        
        re: That story is bogus. - ER - 4/22/2007 1:57:16 AM
        
        That story is less and less bogus...n/t (n/t) - pops - 4/22/2007 10:41:27 AM
    - Other extreme isn't so hot either. - TB - 4/21/2007 9:16:09 PM
      - TB & ER - pops - 4/21/2007 9:36:02 PM
      - Mrs. Clinton as President - folcwine - 4/21/2007 9:35:25 PM
        
        Got any real evidence of that? - TB - 4/21/2007 10:27:57 PM
        
        re: Got any real evidence of that? - pops - 4/22/2007 10:39:30 AM
- Amen. Hard to imagine a rebuttal which even touched on reality. - Bowser - 4/21/2007 4:13:25 AM
  - This picture says it all - Donald - 4/21/2007 1:19:17 PM

Campuses in 27 states have had scares, hoaxes or lockdowns since Monday - Lindy - 4/22/2007 12:10:42 AM
- First reports say shooter was 6' tall wearing a black leather coat and maroon hat - Lindy - 4/22/2007 2:36:27 AM
  - And one of my friends noted.......... - Lindy - 4/22/2007 2:59:14 AM

Canada and Kyoto - TB - 4/20/2007 9:08:06 PM
- Not surprising from our Prime Minister George W. Harper - Laurie Street - 4/21/2007 7:47:08 PM
  - What if the AP6 approach is actually better? - TB - 4/21/2007 9:20:39 PM
- US and Kyoto (n/t) - Bowser - 4/21/2007 12:08:12 AM
  - You know, I do hope and pray that Dr. Bussard is on to something. - Lee - 4/21/2007 2:13:40 AM

Passion in Europe for the French Presidential elections! - Raoul - 4/21/2007 10:08:23 AM
- re: Passion in Europe for the French Presidential elections! - Jacob Samorodin - 4/21/2007 6:38:56 PM
  - French Presidential elections! - Raoul - 4/21/2007 8:35:24 PM

Liviu Librescu laid to rest - TB - 4/21/2007 6:47:15 PM

Amen, Mr Plate - McFly - 4/20/2007 6:49:29 PM
- Just one question: - TB - 4/20/2007 7:00:15 PM
  - re: Just one question: - McFly - 4/20/2007 8:22:00 PM
  - "If the possession of all guns was a crime, would the man who robbed this professor still have had a gun?" - azstrummer - 4/20/2007 7:59:20 PM
    - Cops aren't here to protect you. - Lee - 4/20/2007 11:44:59 PM
      - Vigilante justice is no justice at all - nick hoffman - 4/21/2007 5:19:21 AM
        
        Defending yourself from attack is not vigilantism. - Lee - 4/21/2007 5:33:01 AM

BTW - They ain't even talking "democracy" for Iraq any more. Another excuse shot to hell. - Bowser - 4/20/2007 9:26:52 PM
- re: BTW - TB - 4/20/2007 11:26:21 PM

Democrats say war is lost. - TB - 4/19/2007 7:06:22 PM
- re: More than that... - Raoul - 4/20/2007 3:14:57 PM
  - I don't know how you come up with these insights... - TB - 4/20/2007 7:29:27 PM
    - re: Trying to solve - Raoul - 4/20/2007 8:41:33 PM
      - "Demonizing" - TB - 4/20/2007 8:54:38 PM
- In your own words, - ER - 4/20/2007 3:36:47 AM
- Another commentary - TB - 4/20/2007 12:06:50 AM
- Let's look at the "Bush Strategy". Reid and the military agree. - Bowser - 4/19/2007 7:40:11 PM
  - Kind of funny... - TB - 4/19/2007 8:09:53 PM
    - The generals have said they're fighting a holding action. Awaiting a political solution. - Bowser - 4/19/2007 9:14:45 PM

Islam is Love. Will NBC air this footage??? - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/20/2007 8:00:41 PM

"Rove warns of threat of terrorism." A vote to stay in Iraq is a vote for Osama. - Bowser - 4/20/2007 7:11:13 PM

The Virginia Tech Tragedy - ER - 4/17/2007 3:44:47 PM
- re: The Virginia Tech Tragedy - Marcia - 4/18/2007 6:47:03 PM
- How does that work? - Lee - 4/18/2007 12:53:14 AM
- Guns and ROSIE... - carl - 4/17/2007 9:08:34 PM
  - re: Guns and ROSIE... - Vickie - 4/20/2007 5:35:09 PM
  - Thus proving the stupidity of the "Arm everybody" argument. - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/17/2007 9:12:36 PM
    - At least let people carry knives. - Lee - 4/18/2007 1:11:37 AM
- re:This tragedy isnâ€™t about guns and gun control - SteveS - 4/17/2007 8:19:52 PM
  - Oh yes,, IT IS !!! - Raoul - 4/17/2007 9:32:46 PM
    - Sorry, Raoul, it's not. - Mary Anne - 4/18/2007 1:40:13 PM
      - Mental illness - Raoul - 4/18/2007 5:47:02 PM
      - re: Mental illness - SteveS - 4/18/2007 5:18:27 PM
        
        re: Mental illness - The really sad part is... - Marcia - 4/18/2007 7:08:46 PM
      - re: Sorry, Raoul, it's not. - Laurie Street - 4/18/2007 4:01:05 PM
        
        Incorrect number - LS - 4/18/2007 4:05:23 PM
    - No it isn't Raoul. - Lee - 4/18/2007 1:03:51 AM
  - Here is someone who should never again be allowed to own a gun... - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/17/2007 8:42:05 PM
    - re: You probably wonâ€™t be surprised how many police officers have done similar (n/t) - SteveS - 4/17/2007 9:06:15 PM
- There is no solution to this problem. - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/17/2007 5:08:15 PM
- I agree with most of your post. - REB - 4/17/2007 5:04:30 PM
- re: The Virginia Tech Tragedy - TB - 4/17/2007 4:55:05 PM
  - If the problem were that easy to solve we already would have done so. (n/t) - ER - 4/17/2007 5:44:11 PM
    - What would happen if the police thought everyone was armed? - Bowser - 4/17/2007 6:32:29 PM
    - Too often, that's not really how it works. - TB - 4/17/2007 6:19:14 PM
      - The simple answers have already been tried and didn't work. - ER - 4/17/2007 7:53:40 PM
        
        Well folks.... - Jody - 4/17/2007 11:52:29 PM
        
        If it's not at all the same level elsewhere, it should be solvable (n/t) - Raoul - 4/18/2007 5:23:46 PM
        
        I agree (n/t) - Fox - 4/18/2007 3:40:17 AM

Reconcilliation - "U.S. forces erect (physical) wall between Shiites, Sunnis." - Bowser - 4/20/2007 4:55:31 PM
- Thanks Bowz.... - Lindy - 4/20/2007 5:04:08 PM

The "Surge" is failing - Donald - 4/18/2007 1:55:14 PM
- Your relief must be boundless. (n/t) - TB - 4/18/2007 3:05:43 PM
  - Your callousness is boundless. - Lindy - 4/19/2007 2:16:39 PM
  - Hardly - Donald - 4/19/2007 1:37:57 AM
    - "You are little different than people like Mr. Cho Seung-Hui" - TB - 4/19/2007 2:11:29 AM
      - Don's wrong for comparing you to a psychopathic nutcase - Tony - 4/19/2007 4:23:57 PM
        
        re: Don's wrong for comparing you to a psychopathic nutcase - azstrummer - 4/19/2007 7:56:23 PM
      - Don't worry TB... - SDAI-Tech1 - 4/19/2007 3:28:10 AM
        
        Uhhh....Techie - Lindy - 4/19/2007 2:31:46 PM
        
        Yes Lindy.... - SDAI-Tech1 - 4/20/2007 12:38:47 AM
        
        His "German self?" This gets better and better. (n/t) - TB - 4/19/2007 5:48:27 PM
        
        You know Tom, my German self! - SDAI-Tech1 - 4/20/2007 3:15:38 AM
        
        My Great Grandfather came from Baden Baden - REB - 4/20/2007 2:08:56 PM
      - It's true - Donald - 4/19/2007 2:54:45 AM
        
        People like Hui are the ones setting off bombs in public places. - Lee - 4/19/2007 6:55:53 AM
  - The surge is failing. That's the issue. - Bowser - 4/18/2007 10:13:24 PM
    - Give me a break. - TB - 4/18/2007 11:10:57 PM
      - re: Give me a break. - Lindy - 4/19/2007 1:56:04 PM
      - The parts of history you can't revise you just ignore. - Bowser - 4/19/2007 1:26:52 AM
- You would think that sooner or later they would run out of explosives. - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/18/2007 2:45:42 PM
  - They have hundreds of thousands of rounds - ER - 4/18/2007 3:10:04 PM
    - SOP......... - Publius - 4/19/2007 5:43:04 PM
    - Many of them are unexploded bombs we dropped them. (n/t) - Jack Herer - 4/18/2007 4:25:27 PM
      - Any links? - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/18/2007 5:47:19 PM
    - re: Good point. - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/18/2007 3:15:01 PM
      - Munitions are also being shipped in from Syria and Iran. - TB - 4/18/2007 3:17:47 PM
        
        Which cuts to the how can you expect to close the US border if you can close the Iraqi border question... - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/18/2007 3:36:24 PM
  - Not very likely - Donald - 4/18/2007 3:00:29 PM
    - that's funny. Wasn't that the Clinton's response to OK City? - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/18/2007 3:08:33 PM
      - Where it's coming from. - Lee - 4/19/2007 2:01:42 PM
      - Most fertiliser - nick hoffman - 4/19/2007 10:22:47 AM
- Meanwhile: 3,311 - Donald - 4/18/2007 1:56:53 PM
  - right on cue. (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 4/18/2007 2:01:13 PM

Iran refining nuclear fuel in underground facility. - TB - 4/19/2007 2:54:01 AM
- So? Too bad they have to do that. Unnecessarily expensive. - Bowser - 4/19/2007 7:14:19 PM
  - Dealt with these myths before. - TB - 4/19/2007 8:23:41 PM
    - re: Dealt with these myths before. - SteveS - 4/19/2007 11:27:06 PM
    - Unsuccessfully, BTW. - Bowser - 4/19/2007 9:05:33 PM
      - Wow...got you gibbering on two threads at once. (n/t) - TB - 4/19/2007 9:49:49 PM
        
        Now, one more time: Are pesticides weapons of mass destruction? (n/t) - TB - 4/19/2007 9:50:28 PM
        
        Stop being silly. Is nuclear reactor fuel an atomic bomb? - Bowser - 4/19/2007 10:31:18 PM
        
        re: Stop being silly - TB - 4/19/2007 11:44:14 PM

White House Fact Sheet: Training Iraqi Security Forces - Bowser - 4/19/2007 8:51:49 PM

Liviu Librescu - a real hero. - REB - 4/17/2007 5:09:27 PM
- ... and something about "Herr" Bishop - Fox - 4/19/2007 6:01:30 PM
- re: Liviu Librescu - a real hero. - asturjoy - 4/19/2007 10:00:22 AM
- His work - TB - 4/17/2007 6:32:22 PM
  - re: His work - REB - 4/17/2007 6:57:04 PM
- Link - TB - 4/17/2007 5:15:21 PM

Abortion about to Upstage VA-Tech? - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/18/2007 2:54:52 PM
- Only Opens DOORS to Back Room Abortions - carl - 4/18/2007 5:49:10 PM
- Not just VA-Tech - TB - 4/18/2007 3:19:08 PM
  - So much for the great MSM liberal news-molding conspiracy. - ER - 4/18/2007 5:40:36 PM

Perspective - SDAI-Tech1 - 4/18/2007 1:33:07 PM
- Unnecessary OSHA regulations - ER - 4/18/2007 3:00:46 PM

Notice NEWS SHIFT in Direction of Va TECH? - carl - 4/17/2007 11:29:29 PM
- Notice NEWS SHIFT in Direction of Abortion? - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/18/2007 2:55:44 PM

The US - Socialist for huge corporations, capitalist for small folks. - Bowser - 4/17/2007 9:21:55 PM
- Pharmaceuticals - TB - 4/18/2007 2:02:43 AM

31 dead at Virginia Tech...15 in critical condition...gunman killed himself (n/t) - Jody - 4/16/2007 9:13:42 PM
- I find it odd the gunman has not been identified - Lindy - 4/17/2007 3:35:55 AM
  - This was a trained shooter with a detailed plan. Not some upset lovers quarrel. (n/t) - Jack Herer - 4/17/2007 1:24:19 PM
    - If he was trained, the odds are it was via video game. - The Artist formerly known as Scott Evil - 4/17/2007 7:31:02 PM
      - Are you saying that Hui spent too much time on his Wii? (n/t) - Lee - 4/18/2007 1:32:49 AM
  - Gee, I dont know... - ARRELL - 4/17/2007 4:12:45 AM
    - RL is right. - TB - 4/17/2007 4:16:29 AM
- They do not know if it is related but VT had a bomb scare on April 2nd (n/t) - Jody - 4/17/2007 3:06:23 AM
- re: 31 dead at Virginia Tech...15 in critical condition...gunman killed himself - ARRELL - 4/16/2007 11:08:22 PM
  - Idiots like this make it hard to have a democracy. - Lee - 4/17/2007 2:57:30 AM
  - These are the Muckers John Brunner predicted... - ER - 4/17/2007 1:43:24 AM
    - Maybe it's not just a recent phenomenon - TB - 4/17/2007 2:36:58 AM
      - May 18, 1927 - podrock - 4/17/2007 2:25:47 PM
      - Axe-wielding maniac - Hans - 4/17/2007 1:17:45 PM
      - A selection effect: It's hard to go postal with a muzzle-loader. (n/t) - ER - 4/17/2007 3:17:33 AM
        
        Or maybe in the old days, the "victims" were often armed, too. (n/t) - TB - 4/17/2007 4:15:34 AM
        
        A few shots per minute versus a few per second - ARRELL - 4/17/2007 6:50:13 AM
        
        I wasn't talking about breechloaders. - TB - 4/17/2007 5:20:07 PM
  - I agree RL...I will never understand... (n/t) - Jody - 4/17/2007 1:05:02 AM

Russia launched its new nuclear submarine today - SteveS - 4/17/2007 12:55:20 AM
- Where'd they SINK the OLD ONES? - carl - 4/17/2007 11:30:40 PM
- re:Better info link (Itar-tass) - SteveS - 4/17/2007 4:25:33 AM
- Wow, she was laid down in 1996! - Lee - 4/17/2007 3:25:54 AM
  - re: And wonâ€™t be in full service until 08 - SteveS - 4/17/2007 4:23:19 AM
- Would love to see something like that built in space. - Lee - 4/17/2007 3:17:05 AM
  - Titanium fantasy... - ER - 4/17/2007 2:49:39 PM
- Everybody needs a boomer or two. - ER - 4/17/2007 1:58:59 AM
  - Soviet and US sub crush and test depths. - Bowser - 4/17/2007 6:37:53 AM
    - RICKOVER would be PROUD - carl - 4/17/2007 11:32:20 PM
  - Titanium - TB - 4/17/2007 2:54:01 AM
    - re: Titanium - SteveS - 4/17/2007 4:39:45 AM

Legitimate topics of discussion - FrankC (moderator) - 4/17/2007 7:04:08 PM
- re: Legitimate topics of discussion - azstrummer - 4/17/2007 7:26:39 PM

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