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New Orleans' Emergency Plan - Tom Brosz - 9/3/2005 9:45:16 PM

Live Journal from New Orleans - Tom Brosz - 9/3/2005 6:12:05 AM
- This is really good, in a depressing kind of way. - Mary Anne - 9/3/2005 1:31:54 PM
  - Don't forget to click the Live Cam link - Tom Brosz - 9/3/2005 9:31:52 PM

Update on levees from Corps of Engineers commander - Tom Brosz - 9/3/2005 1:36:41 AM
- Corps of Engineers beginning draining process - Tom Brosz - 9/3/2005 8:21:17 PM
  - Oops. Link. - Tom Brosz - 9/3/2005 8:22:06 PM

Another one on the way? - Lindy - 9/2/2005 3:46:21 PM
- Doesn't look like it's heading in anyway - Tom Brosz - 9/2/2005 3:57:18 PM
- Not to worry, they say the wind shear will break it up - Lindy - 9/2/2005 3:50:57 PM
  - Just a rather wild suggestion... - ljk - 9/2/2005 4:22:48 PM
    - Wouldn't work. - Tom Brosz - 9/2/2005 4:35:27 PM
      - Energy of a hurricane - R.L. - 9/3/2005 6:31:51 AM
        
        Sounds right. - Tom Brosz - 9/3/2005 6:24:06 PM
    - It would be just a drop in the bucket.... - Lindy - 9/2/2005 4:30:29 PM
      - Besides releiving atmospheric pressure and redistributing moisture..... - Lindy - 9/3/2005 7:17:42 PM
      - The future in hurricane technology - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/2/2005 4:55:05 PM
        
        re: The future in hurricane technology - ljk - 9/2/2005 6:43:07 PM

Sonic "Lasers" Head to Flood Zone - Eric - 9/2/2005 5:42:37 PM
- Great - Lindy - 9/2/2005 7:44:53 PM
  - re: Great - Eric - 9/3/2005 3:19:00 PM

82 percent of Alabama has power back. - Tom Brosz - 9/3/2005 6:46:03 AM

Halliburton hired for storm cleanup - Eric - 9/3/2005 1:28:42 AM
- YGTBK! - Lindy - 9/3/2005 6:00:50 AM

Build a hill - gbaikie - 9/3/2005 4:32:49 AM

One blogger who tracked hurricane - Tom Brosz - 9/3/2005 3:43:43 AM

Some thoughts on the Gulf Coast disaster, and the tone here at Current Events (reposted) - Robert Shepherd (moderator) - 9/2/2005 6:00:19 AM
- The tone has been set by the same culprits - Sam F. - 9/2/2005 6:27:42 AM
  - Indeed, it has - DL - 9/2/2005 7:05:13 PM
    - All of my posts have been replies to leftist flim flam. (n/t) - Lee - 9/2/2005 11:10:13 PM
      - And I'm an apes uncle. Your words are clear. (n/t) - DL - 9/2/2005 11:54:33 PM
        
        Well I'll be a..... (n/t) - Lee - 9/3/2005 2:27:51 AM
  - And continued by others. - Mary Anne - 9/2/2005 12:45:28 PM
  - Thank God you are above that! - R.L. - 9/2/2005 8:46:24 AM
    - Why, thank you. - Sam F. - 9/2/2005 9:20:39 AM
      - I refer the honorable gentleman to the comment that I made a moment ago. Thank you. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 9/2/2005 12:46:36 PM

Airline companies to the rescue - Tom Brosz - 9/2/2005 8:40:59 PM
- re: AMTRAK too - Tom Brosz - 9/3/2005 12:58:50 AM

Northcom Update - Tom Brosz - 9/2/2005 5:55:38 PM
- re: Update to the update - Tom Brosz - 9/3/2005 12:48:51 AM

ENOUGH - Robert Shepherd (moderator) - 9/2/2005 6:13:03 AM
- The man behind the curtain is declaring martial law. - Lee - 9/2/2005 11:04:57 PM
  - re: The man behind the curtain is declaring martial law. - Robert - 9/3/2005 12:44:50 AM
- Its the news, Robert - Donald - 9/2/2005 12:40:08 PM
  - re: Its the news, Robert - REB - 9/2/2005 12:54:55 PM
    - re: Its the news, Robert - Donald - 9/2/2005 2:10:42 PM
- Blaming others for natural disasters is rather infantile. - David F Mayer - 9/2/2005 12:04:07 PM
  - Not the point being made - Donald - 9/2/2005 2:15:58 PM
- "I will shut down this board if I have to" - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/2/2005 6:53:51 AM
  - suggestions - jms - 9/2/2005 9:53:41 PM
  - This may sound corny, but... - ljk - 9/2/2005 2:56:43 PM
  - Water - Mary Anne - 9/2/2005 12:57:20 PM
    - Great suggestion MA (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/2/2005 3:49:07 PM
  - well said, and good advice (n/t) - Daniel - 9/2/2005 7:45:42 AM
- "Katrina's Cuss Jar" - Tom Brosz - 9/2/2005 6:50:28 AM
  - That is the most constructive thing I have seen on this topic. - R.L. - 9/2/2005 6:56:59 AM
    - Goes for me, too -- thanks, Tom (n/t) - Fox - 9/2/2005 2:49:57 PM
  - Damn...I'm gonna have to take out a second mortgage... (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/2/2005 6:51:11 AM

Bush loses remaining mind - phil - 8/2/2005 9:54:36 PM
- Scott's post on Space about God and Physicists reminded me of something - Tony - 8/11/2005 9:52:57 PM
- Evolution. - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/6/2005 1:59:01 AM
  - You're way too late..it already is. - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/12/2005 1:53:01 AM
  - God is... - ljk - 8/9/2005 8:38:41 PM
  - Wouldn't want that taught in schools either ;-p (n/t) - Tony - 8/9/2005 2:31:27 PM
- Gotta fall in with the "bad idea" crowd.... - McFly - 8/4/2005 5:51:59 PM
  - Perhaps to share equal time with Scientology? (n/t) - Publius - 8/5/2005 6:29:41 PM
    - I know nothing about Scientology... - McFly - 8/5/2005 10:08:15 PM
      - hello! - steph - 8/31/2005 9:48:20 PM
        
        Yes, steph- its the real McFly - THE McFly - 9/1/2005 8:39:34 PM
        
        re: Yes, steph- its the real McFly - steph - 9/1/2005 9:26:09 PM
        
        No.... - R.L. - 9/1/2005 11:18:57 PM
        
        re: No.... - blue_eyez4eva@hotmail.com - 9/2/2005 11:34:21 AM
        
        Hey steph - Robert - 9/2/2005 7:12:06 PM
        
        re: Hey steph - steph - 9/2/2005 8:45:07 PM
        
        re: Hey steph - steph - 9/2/2005 8:44:41 PM
      - hello! - steph - 8/31/2005 9:48:12 PM
      - hello! - steph - 8/31/2005 9:48:04 PM
      - If we were being fair, shouldn't Wicca be included in the curriculum? (n/t) - Publius - 8/6/2005 7:45:54 PM
        
        I don't see why not - McFly - 8/8/2005 4:19:55 PM
        
        It already is in some school districts. (n/t) - Lee - 8/6/2005 11:49:19 PM
        
        Names, please. - Mary Anne - 8/7/2005 2:51:39 PM
- Didn't Einstein say.... - FrankC - 8/4/2005 3:44:56 PM
  - re:Have you ever read the beginning of the Bible and - Johannes - 8/4/2005 8:05:27 PM
    - IMHO, the Book of Genesis is an ancient fairytale and nothing more - Gary - 8/6/2005 7:52:02 PM
    - Yes - FrankC - 8/4/2005 10:16:17 PM
    - re: re:Have you ever read the beginning of the Bible and - REB - 8/4/2005 8:22:58 PM
      - re: re:Have you ever read the beginning of the Bible and - Johannes - 8/5/2005 4:15:50 AM
        
        What are your views on the Adam and Eve story? - REB - 8/5/2005 2:15:00 PM
        
        Before eating of the fruit, Adam hadn't noticed that Eve was naked........ (n/t) - Publius - 8/5/2005 6:52:59 PM
        
        re: Sounds logical to me. I'll answer on the Off Topic bd. - Johannes - 8/5/2005 4:32:13 PM
        
        re: re:Have you ever read the beginning of the Bible and - REB - 8/5/2005 2:08:20 PM
      - This is the kind of stuff that could be discussed in school - Sam F. - 8/5/2005 1:14:30 AM
        
        One teensy problem I think - Tony - 8/5/2005 6:41:57 PM
  - Don't forget the Founding Fathers and Declaration of Independence - REB - 8/4/2005 4:50:42 PM
- BDS? - Fox - 8/3/2005 9:59:40 PM
- What exactly is intelligent design? - Scott Evil - 8/3/2005 2:02:59 PM
  - "Intelligent Design" is just "Creation Science" dressed up in a suit and tie. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 8/3/2005 4:29:20 PM
    - Why is there this need for religion to masquerade as science? - Gary - 8/4/2005 6:22:17 AM
      - Answers to your questions: - David F Mayer - 8/4/2005 5:53:37 PM
      - science is a religion, Gary - E.P. Grondine - 8/4/2005 1:13:05 PM
        
        You try plotting spacecraft tajectories with prayer.... - R.L. - 8/4/2005 7:26:51 PM
        
        Where did Ed bring up prayer? (n/t) - Robert - 8/4/2005 8:45:37 PM
        
        Science and religion are not at all the same thing - R.L. - 8/4/2005 8:51:50 PM
        
        That's quite true - Robert - 8/5/2005 3:27:30 AM
        
        re: That's quite true - Fox - 8/6/2005 3:46:06 PM
        
        re: That's quite true - Robert - 8/6/2005 5:34:03 PM
        
        'religious' aspects of science are very limited - Daniel - 8/5/2005 1:17:05 PM
        
        'religious' aspects of science are all in the mind - Robert - 8/5/2005 4:46:10 PM
        
        pragmatic compromise for now - - Daniel - 8/5/2005 5:58:07 PM
        
        Only if the students don't get to vote on "validity". - Mary Anne - 8/6/2005 1:19:25 AM
        
        you're right - ID belongs only in a religious studies class, nowhere else (n/t) - Daniel - 8/6/2005 5:18:35 PM
        
        That was very informative and insightful - Sam F. - 8/6/2005 9:11:38 AM
        
        Wrong - David F Mayer - 8/4/2005 6:01:32 PM
        
        Wrong - Robert - 8/4/2005 8:43:54 PM
- Very BAD decision. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 8/3/2005 1:52:51 PM
- Were the universe intelligently designed.............. - Publius - 8/3/2005 1:37:59 PM
  - And... - McFly - 8/3/2005 9:06:58 PM
    - Where do you get your statistics from? - Lindy - 8/4/2005 12:51:52 AM
      - Pulled 'em right out of my... - McFly - 8/4/2005 5:17:13 PM
- re: Bush loses remaining mind - Doug Ellison - 8/3/2005 1:14:03 PM
- Is anyone really surprised by this? (n/t) - R.L. - 8/3/2005 7:28:02 AM
  - Its the neocon legacy - Donald - 8/3/2005 12:48:23 PM
- He's a very dangerous man - Donald - 8/3/2005 5:09:57 AM
- This is one of the reasons why I'm still a Democrat - Gary - 8/3/2005 2:27:02 AM
- From the full transcript - Larry J - 8/3/2005 1:35:53 AM
  - Hysteria - Tom Brosz - 8/3/2005 4:08:17 PM
    - They don't seem to have a problem with New Age garbage being taught either. - Lee - 8/3/2005 7:01:25 PM
      - New Age garbage - Lindy - 8/4/2005 12:59:32 AM
        
        "Gaia has been a long standing worship of Mother Earth which is a living entity" - David F Mayer - 8/4/2005 6:03:46 PM
        
        No, if anything - Lee - 8/4/2005 2:16:20 AM
        
        If I were to join a religion... - Robert - 8/4/2005 3:59:58 AM
        
        Whoa........... - Lindy - 8/4/2005 3:44:40 AM
        
        Tis the way of things - Lee - 8/4/2005 6:09:44 AM
    - Another reason "we scream and run around in circles" on ID - Tony - 8/3/2005 6:59:56 PM
      - re: Another reason "we scream and run around in circles" on ID - gbaikie - 8/3/2005 11:52:52 PM
        
        We can't, as you so quaintly suggest, "apply evolution to humans". - Mary Anne - 8/6/2005 2:19:31 AM
        
        re: Another reason "we scream and run around in circles" on ID - REB - 8/4/2005 4:57:22 PM
        
        And your point is...? - Mary Anne - 8/6/2005 1:46:31 AM
        
        re: And your point is...? - REB - 8/8/2005 4:22:34 PM
    - write back when your concern is over corporatism...... (n/t) - Publius - 8/3/2005 6:53:17 PM
    - Yawn - Robert - 8/3/2005 6:09:53 PM
      - 100 years if failure, 100 million dead. How much proof do you need? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/8/2005 7:02:19 AM
        
        Any proof at all would be welcome - Robert - 8/10/2005 9:23:59 PM
        
        re: Any proof at all would be welcome - Tom Brosz - 8/11/2005 9:45:03 PM
        
        re: Any proof at all would be welcome - Robert - 8/12/2005 4:38:47 AM
  - There are two sides to the evolution issue? (n/t) - Tony - 8/3/2005 4:06:53 PM
    - re: two sides - Fox - 8/11/2005 5:58:33 PM
    - Well, I don't think so. - Tom Brosz - 8/3/2005 4:10:20 PM
      - There is a third theory - ljk - 8/3/2005 4:38:16 PM
  - re: From the full transcript - gbaikie - 8/3/2005 2:22:35 AM
    - All creation stories need to be discussed then, to be fair - ljk - 8/3/2005 4:09:26 PM
      - The President's science advisor - R.L. - 8/4/2005 8:21:34 AM
      - I am partial to the one where the earth sits on the back of a turtle..... (n/t) - Publius - 8/3/2005 6:56:26 PM
    - If you had a room of 100 IDers - Tony - 8/3/2005 4:08:55 PM
    - Answers: - David F Mayer - 8/3/2005 3:11:11 PM
      - re: Answers: - gbaikie - 8/3/2005 8:52:29 PM
        
        Your IDers arent the "ID"ers we have in Kansas... - dtb - 8/4/2005 1:55:39 AM
  - Horrible - Donald - 8/3/2005 2:05:17 AM
    - I think you are over-reacting. - Scott Evil - 8/3/2005 2:00:25 PM
      - What? - ljk - 8/3/2005 4:19:49 PM
      - Uh...Scott - Donald - 8/3/2005 2:39:14 PM
        
        Bob Park's What's New for September 2, 2005 - or is it 1885? - ljk - 9/2/2005 7:03:53 PM

Digital Globe image page - Tom Brosz - 9/2/2005 5:07:13 AM
- Beware of fake and mislabeled Katrina satellite images - ljk - 9/2/2005 3:02:00 PM
  - Space images of the levees breaking - ljk - 9/2/2005 7:10:59 PM

National Guardsmen Pour Into New Orleans - Donald - 9/2/2005 2:25:51 PM
- Millions of tons? - ljk - 9/2/2005 2:54:14 PM
  - re: "Millions of tons" is obviously hyperbole - Tom Brosz - 9/2/2005 4:20:03 PM

News from Houston on our new Residents. - REB - 9/2/2005 12:27:44 PM
- If... - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/2/2005 4:18:07 PM
- GO ASTROS!!!!!! - carl - 9/2/2005 3:12:31 PM
- From the local news station. - REB - 9/2/2005 12:43:27 PM

Just say NO!!!!! - carl - 9/2/2005 3:08:51 PM
- That is a complex issue. - Tom Brosz - 9/2/2005 4:15:39 PM
- There's a thread in Off-Topic about this - Fox - 9/2/2005 3:58:01 PM

This is funny - US saying Iraqi's need to "edit" constitution after parliament writes it. - Bowser - 8/31/2005 12:35:58 AM
- So You Define Demcocracy As? - Mark Eby - 8/31/2005 3:06:27 AM
  - ...self-governance by the people of the nation by common agreement. - Mary Anne - 8/31/2005 12:19:21 PM
    - re: ...self-governance by the people of the nation by common agreement. - Mark Eby - 8/31/2005 10:11:44 PM
      - I replied to you because you asked the question. - Mary Anne - 9/1/2005 4:08:54 AM
      - "Democracy" with a constitution imposed by occupying foreign power? - Bowser - 9/1/2005 12:01:39 AM
        
        It worked for Japan... - Larry J - 9/1/2005 12:16:43 AM
        
        Actually,, - Publius - 9/2/2005 11:54:15 AM
        
        Japan is not Iraq. - Mary Anne - 9/1/2005 4:13:34 AM
        
        Every situation is unique... - Larry J - 9/1/2005 1:43:35 PM
        
        You're right about the precedent. - Mary Anne - 9/2/2005 2:01:36 PM
  - You're talking to someone who was just fine with the dictatorship. - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/31/2005 5:50:44 AM

Superdome evac halted, shots fired!!!!!! - carl - 9/1/2005 1:55:29 PM
- It's Somalia all over again, New Orleans is the new Mogadishu. - Lee - 9/1/2005 7:07:47 PM
  - Ah yes, blame the victim. The easy answer for lazy thinking. - DL - 9/1/2005 8:05:38 PM
    - Seconded, and with bells on. - Mary Anne - 9/2/2005 1:53:08 PM
- the sad thing is that stuff like this will cause some people to hold back on donating to the victims. - Scott Evil - 9/1/2005 2:07:01 PM
  - re: the sad thing is that stuff like this will cause some people to hold back on donating to the victims. - Larry J - 9/1/2005 3:17:56 PM
    - outside reinforcement needed - Daniel - 9/1/2005 4:24:15 PM
      - re: outside reinforcement needed - Larry J - 9/1/2005 6:26:03 PM
        
        A question - Robert - 9/2/2005 1:59:41 AM
        
        An answer - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/2/2005 4:31:34 AM
        
        I'm thinking Section B-52 sounds good. - Scott Evil - 9/1/2005 7:36:45 PM
        
        Actually - Robert - 9/2/2005 1:49:58 AM
      - Sad part about it - CARL - 9/1/2005 4:43:23 PM
        
        Were there tickets provided for the busses, trains, etc.? - Mary Anne - 9/2/2005 1:58:11 PM

Good source for up-to-date New Orleans news - Tom Brosz - 9/2/2005 3:41:12 AM
- Thanks Tom. Keep you fingers crossed and your wallet handy. (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/2/2005 4:45:12 AM
  - You bet. - Tom Brosz - 9/2/2005 4:53:18 AM
    - Donations - Robert - 9/2/2005 4:58:35 AM
      - Kind thought, but probably redundant. - Mary Anne - 9/2/2005 1:46:13 PM
      - Probably gilding the lily. - Tom Brosz - 9/2/2005 5:11:03 AM
- Other links: (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/2/2005 3:44:47 AM
  - Gulf oil platform status - Tom Brosz - 9/2/2005 3:59:26 AM
  - Military Relief - Tom Brosz - 9/2/2005 3:53:24 AM
  - Corps of Engineers progress - Tom Brosz - 9/2/2005 3:49:29 AM
  - Charitable Donations - Tom Brosz - 9/2/2005 3:47:43 AM

FEMA Directing Katrina Donations To Pat Robertson! - Eric - 9/2/2005 9:23:18 AM

Latest DoD update on Katrina - Tom Brosz - 9/2/2005 5:19:34 AM

New Orleans - Bowser - 9/2/2005 5:09:47 AM

DigitalGlobe Satellite Pics of New Orleans and Biloxi - Jack Herer - 9/1/2005 12:06:54 PM
- Those are great shots. Thanks! - Tom Brosz - 9/1/2005 5:33:58 PM

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