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"Architect" of 11 Billion Dollar Fraud gets only 5 years. - Lindy - 8/11/2005 7:48:08 PM
- I believe in proportional punishment: 1 year for each 100,000 stolen. - David F Mayer - 8/12/2005 11:17:47 AM
  - You're too harsh. Make it 1 year for each 100,000,000 stolen - Gary - 8/12/2005 8:22:45 PM
    - re: I don't know... I think 100,000 is probably about right... - Scott Evil - 8/12/2005 10:55:05 PM
- Not harsh enough 79% - p - 8/11/2005 10:00:55 PM
  - Did you have to sign up to get your share of the class action goodies??? - Scott Evil - 8/12/2005 10:47:50 PM
    - re: Did you have to sign up to get your share of the class action goodies??? - p - 8/13/2005 2:37:45 AM

Potentially good news on Alzheimer's - p - 8/12/2005 1:56:06 PM
- I hope it works... - Scott Evil - 8/12/2005 7:34:02 PM
- Wow, I REALLY hope that works out - R.L. - 8/12/2005 3:00:20 PM
  - I watched my grandmother slowly evaporate away - Gary - 8/12/2005 7:43:57 PM
    - re: I watched my grandmother slowly evaporate away - p - 8/13/2005 2:35:21 AM
    - Same here - R.L. - 8/13/2005 12:52:15 AM
  - I watched my maternal uncle die of it -- slowly. - David F Mayer - 8/12/2005 5:52:07 PM

5m 1 cm - Raoul - 8/12/2005 5:51:35 PM
- unbelieveable! - Haddaway - 8/12/2005 7:54:07 PM

But it's also a pleasure - gbaikie - 8/12/2005 5:01:35 AM
- Christopher Hitchens is my hero. Nobody says it better than him. (n/t) - Gary - 8/12/2005 4:28:24 PM
- Megadittos (n/t) - p - 8/12/2005 1:57:01 PM

1,846 - Donald - 8/12/2005 2:02:43 PM

1,842 - Donald - 8/10/2005 12:51:50 PM
- Meanwhile: Mayor of Baghdad Is Deposed - Donald - 8/10/2005 2:46:40 PM
  - Yeah, things were much more democratic there three years ago. - Tom Brosz - 8/10/2005 8:00:07 PM
    - Developing Perspective - Lindy - 8/11/2005 12:51:54 AM
      - re: Developing the capacity for observation - Tom Brosz - 8/11/2005 8:53:43 AM
        
        re: Developing the capacity for observation - Lindy - 8/11/2005 3:19:14 PM
        
        Deja vu... - Tom Brosz - 8/11/2005 8:50:55 PM
        
        I don't know who irritates me more on Iraq - Tony - 8/11/2005 4:22:19 PM
        
        Smug-faced superior-than-thou overgeneralising and stereotyping with no examples provided of "hypotheticals" etc. irritate me even more - Sam F. - 8/11/2005 6:17:36 PM
        
        Oh joy - Tony - 8/11/2005 6:33:28 PM
        
        Your bar for "hypothetical" is in kind of a strange place. - Tom Brosz - 8/11/2005 9:00:55 PM
        
        Well, it's in a strange thread - Tony - 8/11/2005 9:40:30 PM
        
        Constitution - Tom Brosz - 8/11/2005 9:50:12 PM
        
        Play on - Fox (not moderating just now) - 8/11/2005 7:43:17 PM
        
        Thanks, you're a good sport - Sam F. - 8/12/2005 9:13:26 AM

More BDS in the news - p - 8/10/2005 3:06:50 PM
- re: WOW...What a complete fool...Thank God he'll no longer be in uniform. - Scott Evil - 8/10/2005 5:21:21 PM
- More Bush bashing from song lyrics - Jack Herer - 8/10/2005 4:19:34 PM
  - Yo Mick! Shut Up and Sing! You old coot! (n/t) - phil - 8/11/2005 12:18:20 AM
    - He did............last night at a concert in Toronto for 1,000 @ $10 a ticket - Lindy - 8/12/2005 12:50:20 AM
      - re: He did............last night at a concert in Toronto for 1,000 @ $10 a ticket - p - 8/12/2005 1:29:36 AM
        
        Uh Phil............. - Lindy - 8/12/2005 3:34:20 AM
    - Flashbacks for you all - Lindy - 8/11/2005 12:44:14 AM
      - Second Try - Lindy - 8/11/2005 12:45:51 AM
  - That's not "bashing".......... - LIndy - 8/10/2005 10:56:52 PM
  - This form of freedom of expression is perfectly acceptable - Sam F. - 8/10/2005 5:21:03 PM
    - I wonder if he defaced any while on military property. - Scott Evil - 8/10/2005 5:23:56 PM

WARNING: Do NOT try anti-govt protests in your HOME country - p - 8/11/2005 4:52:34 PM
- Yeah, but she WAS wearing a veil......... (n/t) - Publius - 8/11/2005 8:46:04 PM

RINOs Get Weak Kneed on Energy - p - 8/11/2005 7:22:04 PM
- re: "RINOs?" ah... Republicans In Name Only? - Fox - 8/11/2005 7:37:19 PM
  - re: "RINOs?" ah... Republicans In Name Only? - Tony - 8/11/2005 8:00:19 PM
    - "This aint your father's Republican party any more." - Robert - 8/11/2005 8:35:47 PM

Man dies after 50 straight hours of video gaming - ljk - 8/11/2005 5:57:08 PM

Bush to sign pork barrel highway bill - p - 8/10/2005 2:49:47 PM
- Forget the intelligence briefings for new presidents... - Tom Brosz - 8/10/2005 7:46:59 PM
  - Bush signed this into law with a crayon...... (n/t) - Publius - 8/11/2005 5:50:01 PM
  - Their intelligence is already brief enough (n/t) - Fox - 8/10/2005 10:59:25 PM

Profiling, then and now - p - 8/11/2005 5:00:29 PM

Catholics Need Not Apply - phil - 8/10/2005 1:59:57 AM
- I hope the left attempts to destroy Judge Roberts - Scott Evil - 8/10/2005 2:09:40 PM
- This is funny... - Mary Anne - 8/10/2005 3:19:28 AM
  - Is Cuomo saying that only Catholics who disagree with their Church are qualified for public service? - Scott Evil - 8/10/2005 2:29:11 PM
    - No. - Mary Anne - 8/10/2005 4:18:09 PM
      - Is the Drunkard Ted Kennedy going to go after Roberts because he too is a Catholic? - Scott Evil - 8/10/2005 5:27:25 PM
        
        Please remember history. - Mary Anne - 8/10/2005 6:42:23 PM
        
        re: whether someone will attempt to inflict one religion's orthodoxies upon the entire nation - Scott Evil - 8/10/2005 10:36:08 PM
        
        By the way, do you think Ted Kennedy really believes in God? - Scott Evil - 8/10/2005 11:02:51 PM
        
        re: By the way, do you think Ted Kennedy really believes in God? - R.L. - 8/10/2005 11:23:05 PM
        
        re: By the way, do you think Ted Kennedy really believes in God? - Scott Evil - 8/11/2005 1:20:34 PM
  - re: This is funny... - p - 8/10/2005 2:03:45 PM
    - I agree that the Catholic Church deserved criticism for its behavior - Mary Anne - 8/10/2005 7:03:20 PM
      - re: I agree that the Catholic Church deserved criticism for its behavior - p - 8/10/2005 10:09:13 PM
  - Article VI - Larry J - 8/10/2005 1:57:12 PM
    - Is being anti-abortion necessarily a religious belief? - Tony - 8/10/2005 4:42:58 PM
    - Exactly. - Mary Anne - 8/10/2005 4:42:19 PM
      - Yes But when the IRS starts taxing religious certain organizations but not others... - Scott Evil - 8/10/2005 5:16:46 PM
        
        Religious organizations, along with other apolitical nonprofits, enjoy special tax status. - Mary Anne - 8/10/2005 6:52:27 PM
        
        Seriously: Please get the Democrats to take the Catholic Church's Tax exempt status away over the abortion issue... - Scott Evil - 8/10/2005 10:41:15 PM
        
        The social justice issues trump the abortion issue for many Catholics. - Mary Anne - 8/11/2005 12:27:37 AM
        
        re: I doubt the whole Church would be reclassified if this comes to pass, but only those dioceses with bully bishops. - Scott Evil - 8/11/2005 1:59:39 PM
  - Anxious to see p's response. - Bowser - 8/10/2005 7:03:18 AM
    - re: Anxious to see p's response. - p - 8/10/2005 2:04:31 PM
  - Thanks for posting this - Eri - 8/10/2005 4:03:08 AM

While we are wasting lives, taxdollars and diplomatic capital in Iraq - Donald - 8/10/2005 7:09:23 PM
- Let them have their nukes... - Scott Evil - 8/10/2005 10:53:04 PM
  - Um...Scott - Donald - 8/11/2005 12:34:34 AM
    - re: Um...Scott - gbaikie - 8/11/2005 9:19:18 AM
- So, let me get this straight... - Tom Brosz - 8/10/2005 7:43:17 PM
  - Well for one thing... - Donald - 8/11/2005 12:37:41 AM
    - You have a good point, Donald (n/t) - Lindy - 8/11/2005 2:12:34 AM

Islamist Insurgency in Britain? - p - 8/8/2005 11:31:44 PM
- What about in the U.S.? - Eri - 8/9/2005 2:28:44 AM
  - re: What about in the U.S.? - p - 8/9/2005 2:46:06 AM
    - But do they assimilate? - Eri - 8/9/2005 2:58:29 AM
      - 'Twas ever thus. - Mary Anne - 8/10/2005 1:15:46 PM
        
        All good points and a good way of putting assimilation into context. (n/t) - Eri - 8/11/2005 2:58:36 AM
      - With global communications, there's no need to assimilate. - Lee - 8/9/2005 9:29:17 AM
      - re: But do they assimilate? - p - 8/9/2005 3:08:35 AM
        
        re: But do they assimilate? - PETB - 8/9/2005 1:39:05 PM
        
        re: But do they assimilate? - p - 8/9/2005 1:51:10 PM
        
        re: But do they assimilate? - PETB - 8/9/2005 8:31:24 PM
        
        We're definitely NOT in agreement - Eri - 8/10/2005 4:13:13 AM
        
        re: We're definitely NOT in agreement - PETB - 8/10/2005 12:34:11 PM
        
        Some Christian sects treat their women like housepets. - Mary Anne - 8/10/2005 12:58:32 PM
        
        re: But do they assimilate? - p - 8/9/2005 9:59:10 PM

REALLY bad news from Iraq - p - 8/10/2005 10:30:49 PM
- You're hysterical, Phil. - Lindy - 8/10/2005 10:50:12 PM
  - re: You're hysterical, Phil. - p - 8/10/2005 10:54:16 PM

1,836 - Donald - 8/9/2005 1:04:20 PM
- Make that 1,838 - Donald - 8/10/2005 12:47:57 AM
  - Putting the ASS in stAtiSticS - Sam F. - 8/10/2005 8:04:16 AM
    - Oh...so the death toll is only a seasonal affair?!? - Donald - 8/10/2005 12:50:28 PM
    - So the increase in roadside bombings and ambushes is a result of the heat? - Mary Anne - 8/10/2005 12:41:11 PM
      - C'mon, you work at a library. - Sam F. - 8/10/2005 5:09:45 PM
        
        No, casualties will never fall. They can remain static, though. - Mary Anne - 8/10/2005 7:42:26 PM
        
        I understood exactly what he meant. - Tom Brosz - 8/10/2005 8:10:44 PM
      - re: So the increase in roadside bombings and ambushes is a result of the heat? - pitrio - 8/10/2005 12:50:46 PM
        
        Because Rambo was a movie. - Mary Anne - 8/10/2005 7:36:49 PM

Peter Jennings has died. - Lee - 8/8/2005 8:17:15 AM
- Cokie Roberts's remembrance of Peter Jennings. - Mary Anne - 8/10/2005 3:41:11 AM
  - re: Cokie Roberts's remembrance of Peter Jennings. - PETB - 8/10/2005 12:36:21 PM
    - No. - Mary Anne - 8/10/2005 7:52:51 PM
- Any bloggers claiming credit? (n/t) - alcaray - 8/8/2005 6:08:00 PM
  - No. Any liberals with their "free to smoke whatever we want" lifestyle taking credit? (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/8/2005 9:45:52 PM
    - That's a lifestyle that crosses all political axes. Know ANY smokers? (n/t) - et - 8/10/2005 3:11:48 AM
      - Let's see... - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/10/2005 6:08:02 AM
        
        Cynical, while calling attention to a parallel that most would not see. - alcaray - 8/10/2005 3:56:10 PM
        
        re: Let's see... - PETB - 8/10/2005 12:38:22 PM
    - That's just plain unkind - Eri - 8/9/2005 2:34:34 AM
      - alcaray's comment sucked first (n/t) - Sam F. - 8/9/2005 6:33:14 AM
        
        How so? - alcaray - 8/9/2005 7:59:16 PM
        
        Dan Rather didn't die. (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/10/2005 6:09:52 AM
        
        Ah, there it is. The standard fall-back of the American Right Wing. (n/t) - - - 8/9/2005 3:29:34 PM
        
        I wouldn't know. Better than a double standard in my book, though. (n/t) - Sam F. - 8/9/2005 4:16:11 PM
    - Whoa there big boy....... - Lindy - 8/8/2005 11:06:20 PM
      - Hey!!! Take it to flame - Tony - 8/9/2005 2:35:40 PM
        
        About addiction and stupidity - Lindy - 8/9/2005 3:55:40 PM
        
        Both (n/t) - Tony - 8/9/2005 4:51:36 PM
        
        And now, in todays' news.... - Lindy - 8/9/2005 6:42:18 PM
        
        She's a non-smoker - Fox - 8/9/2005 9:13:10 PM
        
        re: And now, in todays' news.... - PETB - 8/9/2005 8:36:01 PM
    - When did they ever take credit for knocking someone off? - alcaray - 8/8/2005 10:10:43 PM

Bad news from Africa - p - 8/9/2005 3:07:35 PM
- Mauritania maybe the nastiest place on the planet - Gary - 8/10/2005 3:33:13 AM
  - re: Mauritania maybe the nastiest place on the planet - p - 8/10/2005 2:11:03 PM
  - re: Mauritania maybe the nastiest place on the planet - pitrio - 8/10/2005 12:26:59 PM
- Islamicist coup? - Tony - 8/9/2005 3:39:04 PM
  - Moderation towards Israel = must be replaced by Islamist rule - p - 8/9/2005 3:45:43 PM
    - Severe case of IDS*? - Tony - 8/9/2005 5:02:28 PM
      - re: Severe case of IDS*? - p - 8/9/2005 5:32:00 PM
        
        "You're either with us or against us" - Lindy - 8/10/2005 12:37:52 AM
        
        re: "You're either with us or against us" - p - 8/10/2005 1:53:35 AM
        
        re: Severe case of IDS*? - Tony - 8/9/2005 6:01:02 PM
  - though you're better at spelling it than me....... (n/t) - Tony - 8/9/2005 3:40:08 PM
    - re: Islamicist is really the proper word there. (n/t) - Mac - 8/9/2005 4:12:50 PM

Jimmy Carter - Guantanamo Detentions A Disgrace - Eric - 7/31/2005 4:22:01 PM
- Jimmy Carter, the guy who undermined the Shah. (n/t) - DFM - 8/1/2005 6:06:03 PM
- re: Jimmy Carter - Guantanamo Detentions A Disgrace - p - 7/31/2005 6:07:51 PM
  - I have lived under 11 presidents... - FrankC - 7/31/2005 8:07:23 PM
    - He's a good man but was a poor president. - Gary - 7/31/2005 11:03:33 PM
      - I voted for him once... - FrankC - 8/1/2005 1:36:02 AM
    - Didn't that hurt your back? (n/t) - R.L. - 7/31/2005 8:09:54 PM
      - I indured them one at a time (n/t) - FrankC - 7/31/2005 8:16:10 PM
- What's the latest scoop on crop circles and UFOs? (n/t) - Inquiring Minds - 7/31/2005 4:43:25 PM
  - Congratulations! You receive today's Ad Hominem Award! - Mary Anne - 7/31/2005 5:28:13 PM
    - re: Congratulations! You receive today's Ad Hominem Award! - gbaikie - 8/1/2005 1:11:42 AM
      - Carter and Mondale hurt the US Space Program - ljk - 8/10/2005 12:49:34 PM

Michael Yon to cover Iraq defense forces - Tom Brosz - 8/9/2005 6:59:36 PM

Why do people keep falling for the non-producing asset scam? - David F Mayer - 8/7/2005 1:54:31 PM
- Google Noe+Ohio+coins for a good laugh (n/t) - Tony - 8/8/2005 6:49:56 PM
  - That was funny - Robert - 8/8/2005 11:41:12 PM
    - I've got a feeling - Tony - 8/9/2005 2:34:17 PM
    - That's a vicous liberal rumor. Karl Rove does not exist. - White House - 8/9/2005 1:54:48 AM
- My grandfather was a serious antique investor - dtb - 8/8/2005 6:10:55 PM
  - My views on antiques can be summed up as "form follows function" - Scott Evil - 8/8/2005 10:16:55 PM
  - Again, those with expertise can succeed. The rest are suckers. (n/t) - DFM - 8/8/2005 6:34:31 PM
- re: for the same reason they waste money playing the lottery. - Scott Evil - 8/8/2005 3:43:07 PM
- Perhaps they are familiar with the concepts of inflation and devaluation? (n/t) - Publius - 8/8/2005 1:19:41 PM
- Things like gold are asset preservers. - Tom Brosz - 8/8/2005 7:06:00 AM
  - I am NOT talking about asset preservation. - David F Mayer - 8/8/2005 2:14:50 PM
- Art, antiques, raw land, their own homes. Venture capitalists, now they have to be really dumb, huh!! - Bowser, aka "Madonna" - 8/8/2005 12:55:18 AM
  - The problem is that to purchase art & antiques well, - David F Mayer - 8/8/2005 2:17:48 PM
    - you are correct....but - FrankC - 8/8/2005 7:24:21 PM
- I collect old coins and like gold/silver coins - Gary - 8/7/2005 5:10:55 PM
  - Yes, but you have EXPERTISE in the area. - David F Mayer - 8/8/2005 6:32:10 PM

Mom of Slain Soldier Stages Bush Protest - Donald - 8/6/2005 9:09:21 PM
- She has already met with Bush... - Larry J - 8/8/2005 5:04:51 PM
  - Better link... - Tom Brosz - 8/8/2005 10:08:06 PM
- "Impeachment Tour" (yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus) - Lindy - 8/7/2005 4:37:39 PM
  - I've heard a lot of stories from Szymanzki - Tom Brosz - 8/8/2005 10:16:34 PM
    - And then there's Szymanzki's source... - Tom Brosz - 8/8/2005 10:23:42 PM
      - It is incredible that ANYBODY takes this crap seriously (n/t) - David F Mayer - 8/9/2005 1:49:26 PM
  - Yawn, sorry, no impeachable offense. - David F Mayer - 8/8/2005 2:23:47 PM
  - Copyright violation? Entire article and no attribution (n/t) - p - 8/7/2005 11:10:22 PM
    - Surprisingly, no -- that is, mostly no - Fox, as Moderator - 8/8/2005 1:59:08 AM
      - Names and hints - Mary Anne - 8/8/2005 3:30:33 AM
        
        Point taken - Fox - 8/8/2005 4:10:05 PM
      - Sorry Fox, and I agree - Lindy - 8/8/2005 3:20:33 AM

Profile of CAIR - p - 8/9/2005 1:46:52 PM

BDS rampant at Atlanta Voting Rights March - p - 8/9/2005 12:55:21 PM

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