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It was never about WMD... A glimpse at history - R.L. - 1/25/2005 10:01:21 AM
- I guess a lot of you would like to forget your real reasons for war... - R.L. - 2/2/2005 8:32:52 PM
- I Beleive The Correct Phrase IS "It was never ONLY about WMD" - Mark Eby - 1/26/2005 1:41:51 AM
  - NICE TRY- it was a 'pre-emptive war'- - R.L. - 1/26/2005 1:57:39 AM
    - PS You Didn't Address Your Fundamental Inaccuracy (n/t) - Mark Eby - 1/26/2005 2:42:05 AM
    - Yes & No - Mark Eby - 1/26/2005 2:21:49 AM
      - re: Yes & No - SDG - 1/28/2005 1:20:28 AM
        
        Bush Couldn't Articulate His Way Out Of A Paper Bag - Mark Eby - 1/28/2005 2:25:59 AM
- painful (n/t) - McFly - 1/25/2005 7:53:19 PM
- Fantastic - I liked the one about waving flags! (n/t) - Bowser - 1/25/2005 6:14:33 PM
  - My favorite, (Is this scott evil?) - R.L. - 1/25/2005 7:29:26 PM
  - Interesting... - Tom Brosz - 1/25/2005 7:26:43 PM
- re: It was never about WMD... A glimpse at history - Tom Brosz - 1/25/2005 4:55:36 PM
  - re: "Most likely: explosive booby traps, bombing of civilian areas to take out our forces..." - alcaray - 1/25/2005 7:27:23 PM
  - "Other than the poison gas, I think I came out pretty good on this one." - R.L. - 1/25/2005 7:10:47 PM
    - $80 billion more requested for this war to protect ourselves from WMD - RL. - 1/25/2005 9:14:12 PM
      - Oh, the intelligence services lied, now? - Tom Brosz - 1/26/2005 1:13:52 AM
        
        Some lied, the administration accepted only those claims it WANTED... - R.L. - 1/27/2005 10:45:47 PM
      - For reference, thats 80+ mars missions like the rovers, ~40 Cassinis (n/t) - R.L. - 1/25/2005 10:07:19 PM
        
        Or two Mars Direct missions (n/t) - LJ - 1/26/2005 12:07:13 AM
        
        Yeah, we'll just take the guys building tanks and put them right to work on solar panels. - Tom Brosz - 1/26/2005 1:58:07 AM
        
        We set the priorities. - alcaray - 1/26/2005 8:27:55 PM
        
        You make a good point. - Tom Brosz - 1/26/2005 11:32:31 PM
        
        Come to that, no money the govt. spends is wasted. (n/t) - alcaray - 1/27/2005 12:45:26 AM
        
        re: Come to that, no money the govt. spends is wasted. - Tom Brosz - 1/27/2005 2:42:32 AM
        
        Swords into plowshares - LJ - 1/26/2005 6:47:23 AM
        
        re: Swords into plowshares - Tom Brosz - 1/26/2005 7:27:24 AM
        
        How many Hubble repairs? (n/t) - alcaray - 1/26/2005 12:11:12 AM
    - I was talking about my prediction - Tom Brosz - 1/25/2005 7:32:03 PM
      - AndI was pointing out that despite the current claims, this war was about WMD... - R.L. - 1/25/2005 7:38:44 PM
        
        I did quote the resolution in Congress. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 1/25/2005 7:50:36 PM
        
        Good for you!!! (n/t) - R.L. - 1/25/2005 8:23:06 PM
        
        Now they are saying GWB is a liar, 'cause he said it was about WMDs. - Bowser - 1/26/2005 12:06:42 AM
- re:LOL !! (n/t) - Raoul - 1/25/2005 4:35:52 PM
- That.... - Donald - 1/25/2005 2:44:54 PM
- What ever happened to Matt B. Anyways? (n/t) - Davin :. - 1/25/2005 2:32:06 PM
- re: It was never about WMD... it was about control of the 2nd largest oil reserve in the world. - Jack Herer - 1/25/2005 1:16:09 PM
  - Oh, would you PLEASE shut up!! - R.L. - 1/25/2005 4:24:52 PM
    - re: Oh, would you PLEASE shut up!! - LJ - 1/25/2005 5:37:52 PM
    - It was ALL about oil ... black gold to a Texas oil tycoon. (n/t) - Jack Herer - 1/25/2005 4:38:30 PM
      - you forgot the other name from the Theme Song: 'Texas Tea' (n/t) - Davin :. - 1/25/2005 4:45:28 PM
- re: It was never about WMD... A glimpse at history - gbaikie - 1/25/2005 11:55:59 AM

Bush's Magical Economics - Mark Eby - 2/2/2005 12:28:29 AM
- I dont believe in Magical economics either - Tony - 2/2/2005 2:03:53 PM
  - Spending issues - Tom Brosz - 2/2/2005 7:08:45 PM

CNN executive accuses U.S. military of targeting reporters - Tom Brosz - 2/2/2005 6:12:12 AM
- The same 'news' exec who spun CNN's news in favor of Saddam at Saddam's request. - ebnelson - 2/2/2005 3:50:31 PM
- Sounds like Barney Frank called him on it... - Larry J - 2/2/2005 3:10:58 PM
- Eason Jordan - phil - 2/2/2005 3:06:46 PM

re: I Guess Tony Will Pretend To Miss This One As Well - - Tony - 2/1/2005 3:04:06 PM
- Looks Like You Found It - Mark Eby - 2/2/2005 12:23:46 AM
  - Actual Quote - Tony - 2/2/2005 1:44:15 PM
  - http://www.habitablezone.com/currentevents/messages/367709.html (n/t) - ~ - 2/2/2005 1:38:36 AM

Nepalese coup - which is it? - LJ - 2/2/2005 5:39:16 AM

Kerry 'Updates' his Christmas in Cambodia Claim - phil - 1/31/2005 9:14:21 PM
- They must be out of lives in Mass. - Bowser - 2/1/2005 2:07:42 AM
  - JFK was featured on "Meet the Press" Sunday - a current event - p - 2/1/2005 7:46:55 PM
    - Running arms to the Khmer Rouge - Tom Brosz - 2/2/2005 4:47:56 AM
  - Not sure what you mean by that. - Tom Brosz - 2/1/2005 3:38:53 AM
    - P needs to get a life. Draft-dodging Bush won, is President. (n/t) - Bowser - 2/1/2005 5:26:54 AM
      - You still think Bush dodged the draft, and I bet you support Dean - ebnelson - 2/1/2005 4:52:46 PM
      - And Kerry was a big part of the reason why. - Tom Brosz - 2/1/2005 5:43:45 AM
    - Kerry is mixing up things again. We started secretly supporting the KR in 1979 - ebnelson - 2/1/2005 4:30:10 AM

I'm told today is the anniversary of the Tet Offensive. - Tom Brosz - 1/30/2005 11:18:02 PM
- The pleasant irony of this is wonderful - ebnelson - 1/31/2005 1:52:41 AM
  - You wrote: "we allowed the press and our enemies into talking us into losing that war" - David F Mayer - 1/31/2005 7:29:57 PM
    - Possibly - ebnelson - 2/1/2005 4:37:36 AM
      - You wrote: "We won the Tet Offensive." That statement is true. - David F Mayer - 2/1/2005 3:03:38 PM
        
        re: "We won the Tet Offensive." - Tom Brosz - 2/1/2005 7:21:53 PM
        
        The rejected strategy - ebnelson - 2/1/2005 5:05:58 PM
        
        Even WITH all of that, we could not have won. - David F Mayer - 2/1/2005 8:33:16 PM
    - why Nam was different - phil - 1/31/2005 8:13:08 PM

Hey, its just a liberal myth, right? Global warming doesnt exist - R.L. - 1/30/2005 6:57:05 AM
- re: Hey, its just a liberal myth, right? Global warming doesnt exist - stanibol - 2/1/2005 6:53:26 AM
- Old news, previously posted. - David F Mayer - 1/30/2005 7:22:15 AM
  - You just refuse to listen... - R.L. - 1/30/2005 6:45:15 PM
    - Nonsense. - David F Mayer - 1/31/2005 2:29:43 AM
      - Well, it is interesting you ignored the refutation of your 'volcanoes are to blame' nonsense - R.L. - 1/31/2005 2:58:52 AM
        
        You seem to be ignorant of geology. - David F Mayer - 1/31/2005 2:21:55 PM
        
        You seem to be just plain ignorant - R.L. - 1/31/2005 4:33:53 PM
        
        You did not understand anything that I posted, so I give up. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 1/31/2005 7:03:30 PM
        
        I understand that you dont even grasp the basic facts of the issue... (n/t) - R.L. - 2/1/2005 1:49:30 AM
  - The Impact Of CO2 Is Measurable In The Lab - Mark Eby - 1/30/2005 4:46:49 PM
    - Vulcanism is a major source of CO2 - ebnelson - 1/30/2005 6:53:40 PM
      - And Always Has Been - Mark Eby - 1/30/2005 7:00:11 PM
      - Educate yourself before talking on the subject - R.L. - 1/30/2005 6:58:26 PM
    - CO2 and global warming - Gary - 1/30/2005 6:48:40 PM
      - As I Said Elsewhere - Mark Eby - 1/30/2005 7:04:45 PM
        
        Certainty versus uncertainty - Gary - 1/30/2005 7:28:11 PM
        
        I'm Not For Economic Shutdown Either By The Way (n/t) - Mark Eby - 1/30/2005 7:52:38 PM
        
        I Don't Like Nuclear Fission Either - Mark Eby - 1/30/2005 7:51:35 PM
        
        Practical Solar Energy is coming soon. - David F Mayer - 1/31/2005 7:12:22 PM
        
        The radicals on both sides are making the problem worse - R.L. - 1/30/2005 7:41:50 PM
      - Very interesting points. - ebnelson - 1/30/2005 7:02:07 PM
        
        re: Very interesting points. - gbaikie - 1/31/2005 12:05:32 AM
  - Don't confuse 'em with facts, David - ebnelson - 1/30/2005 2:08:42 PM
    - Ed would be one of the morons I was talking about - R.L. - 1/30/2005 6:53:09 PM
- "If ya can't solve the entire problem, no sense in trying to solve any of it!!!! - Bowser - 1/30/2005 7:21:15 AM
  - If you don't understand the problem, - David F Mayer - 1/30/2005 7:40:09 AM
    - Your ignorance is your own, we DO know enough... - R.L. - 1/30/2005 10:47:33 PM
      - Carbon dioxide is only part of the problem. - David F Mayer - 1/31/2005 7:10:39 PM
        
        One more time for the reading impaired - R.L. - 2/1/2005 1:46:22 AM
- Variations on a theme - Tom Brosz - 1/30/2005 7:20:34 AM
  - Would it really be so bad to make serious moves away from things we burn to power our civilization? - Mary Anne - 1/30/2005 3:46:57 PM
    - The only practical option for that is nuke energy. - ebnelson - 1/30/2005 6:55:01 PM
      - HERE we agree - R.L. - 1/30/2005 7:04:03 PM
        
        Mark the calendar (n/t) - ebnelson - 1/31/2005 2:00:03 AM
        
        A stopped clock is right twice a day- you are scoring much lower (n/t) - R.L. - 1/31/2005 3:16:35 AM
        
        re: A stopped clock is right twice a day- you are scoring much lower - ebnelson - 1/31/2005 1:03:25 PM
        
        Ed, you do realize that you are the right-wing bowser here, right? - R.L. - 2/1/2005 8:11:47 PM
      - Support more nuke plants? You bet I will! - Mary Anne - 1/30/2005 7:03:54 PM
        
        Inspectors are not the answer - ebnelson - 1/31/2005 2:03:41 AM
        
        Electrical supplies to depend on form of government? - Mary Anne - 1/31/2005 2:08:17 PM
        
        I wouldn't put a pyromaniac in charge of a gas station, either. - Tom Brosz - 1/31/2005 4:34:40 PM
        
        Power reactors, because of their very size, are neither small nor hidden. - Mary Anne - 1/31/2005 6:22:30 PM
        
        re: hidden. - Tom Brosz - 1/31/2005 7:01:09 PM
        
        Hello? Power plants make lousy weapons manufacturing sites. - Mary Anne - 2/1/2005 3:25:11 AM
        
        It derpends on a couple of things. - David F Mayer - 2/1/2005 8:19:16 PM
        
        Fine. - Tom Brosz - 2/1/2005 3:56:20 AM
        
        re: Support more nuke plants? You bet I will! - Tom Brosz - 1/30/2005 8:05:56 PM

American Jihad Update - p - 2/1/2005 7:56:37 PM

What the Iraqi elections REALLY MEAN - David F Mayer - 2/1/2005 7:27:33 PM

From the About Time Department... - Tom Brosz - 2/1/2005 6:56:30 PM

eID cards - Raoul - 2/1/2005 6:53:51 PM

The USS Bonhomme Richard and AWOL scumbags - ebnelson - 1/3/2005 9:44:37 PM
- Scumbag update - ebnelson - 1/4/2005 7:46:54 PM
  - re: Scumbag update - SK2 - 2/1/2005 4:58:20 PM
- Does have an "O. Henry" twist to it, doesn't it? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 1/4/2005 3:34:25 AM
- Screw that loser. He's heading for Leavenworth before long. What really matters... - Larry J - 1/3/2005 10:02:08 PM
  - re: Screw that loser. He's heading for Leavenworth before long. What really matters... - ebnelson - 1/3/2005 10:16:19 PM
    - At a minimum the jerkoff should be forced to pay back every dime spent on his training. - Scott Evil - 1/3/2005 10:46:53 PM
      - The military seldom lets people off that easy - Larry J - 1/4/2005 2:25:01 AM
      - The law - ebnelson - 1/3/2005 11:56:07 PM
        
        Character deficit now equates with freedom of movement and freedom of speech? - Lindy - 1/4/2005 6:16:08 AM
        
        This is one armchair general who is not afraid to call the guy a coward. - Scott Evil - 1/4/2005 6:00:40 PM
        
        He is subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice - Larry J - 1/4/2005 4:41:55 PM
        
        re: Character deficit now equates with freedom of movement and freedom of speech? - ebnelson - 1/4/2005 4:36:26 PM
        
        re: The steroids - Dr. Benson - 1/4/2005 1:24:28 AM
        
        This is Current Events, not the Flame Board! - Lindy - 1/4/2005 6:12:22 AM
        
        Arf Arf (n/t) - Scott Evil - 1/4/2005 2:24:41 PM
        
        Uhhhhh - ebnelson - 1/4/2005 2:44:48 AM
        
        re: Uh-huh - Dr. Benson - 1/4/2005 10:14:26 AM
        
        re: Uh-huh - ebnelson - 1/4/2005 4:41:04 PM
        
        He signed a contract...Then he broke it. - Scott Evil - 1/4/2005 2:26:03 PM
        
        Maybe we ought to go stoning women who break their marriage contract? - Lindy - 1/4/2005 4:08:23 PM
        
        re: hardly a good analogy. - Scott Evil - 1/4/2005 4:18:58 PM
        
        Sorry, I don't buy it. - Dr. Benson - 1/4/2005 4:26:42 PM
        
        But you aren't in a position to buy much - ebnelson - 1/4/2005 4:44:35 PM

Britain: U.S. Must Help Avert Climate Catastrophe - Jack Herer - 2/1/2005 4:12:36 PM
- Britain: Count Us Out of Iran War - Jack Herer - 2/1/2005 4:44:54 PM

"Dean for DNC Chairman!" - Tom Brosz - 1/31/2005 6:19:47 PM
- Great!! - Mark Eby - 2/1/2005 12:50:14 AM
  - MArk, stop buying the hype. - Tony - 2/1/2005 12:38:39 PM
- Dean represents the past for the radicals trying to take over the DNC - ebnelson - 1/31/2005 7:03:36 PM

1,437 - Donald - 2/1/2005 4:35:51 AM

Zarqawi update... - Tom Brosz - 2/1/2005 4:26:42 AM

Dan Darling sums up the importance of the Iraqi Elections - Gary - 1/30/2005 7:17:26 AM
- Winners & Loosers - Mark Eby - 1/30/2005 3:52:55 PM
  - Dont you mean tighters and loosers? (n/t) - R.L. - 1/31/2005 12:57:57 AM
    - By (n/t) - (anonymous) - 2/1/2005 1:07:52 AM
    - Congratulations! - Mark Eby - 1/31/2005 3:22:30 AM
      - Spelling? Einstein? What the heck happened to "i" before "e?" (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 1/31/2005 5:30:17 AM
        
        I before E except when it's german (n/t) - SDG - 1/31/2005 7:43:18 PM
  - Forgot The Biggest Potential Looser - Osama - Mark Eby - 1/30/2005 6:57:36 PM
    - While I hope that this somehow translates to defeat for Zarkawi - alcaray - 1/31/2005 6:07:02 PM
    - Hedoes have several wives so I guess he is 'looser' than most... (n/t) - R.L. - 1/31/2005 2:18:30 AM
      - Maybe Hedoes is Mormon (n/t) - alcaray - 1/31/2005 11:55:33 PM

Honour crimes - Jack Herer - 1/27/2005 9:38:49 PM
- Where is the "news" part? - David F Mayer - 1/28/2005 12:05:02 AM
  - Er, there are lots of Arabs who do not practice this. So it is not "standard". (n/t) - alcaray - 1/28/2005 12:29:26 AM
    - Pardon me. - David F Mayer - 1/28/2005 12:32:41 AM
      - Statistics? Or "everyone knows"? (n/t) - alcaray - 1/28/2005 5:52:37 PM
        
        Some references - David F Mayer - 1/31/2005 2:29:41 PM
        
        There were some statistics in there! - alcaray - 2/1/2005 12:02:56 AM

Iraqis at the polls in America - Tom Brosz - 1/31/2005 11:42:35 PM

Auschwitz - Raoul - 1/27/2005 6:46:53 AM
- Miriam Yahav - Tom Brosz - 1/31/2005 10:57:14 PM
- The history of the holocaust is horrible and interesting - Gary - 1/27/2005 7:35:58 AM
  - One of the more horrible aspects... - Larry J - 1/27/2005 6:05:36 PM

What to look for now in Iraq... - Tom Brosz - 1/31/2005 10:52:37 PM

The Welfare System in Germany has stooped to a new level of degeneracy. - David F Mayer - 1/31/2005 3:49:43 PM
- Does Germany accept immigrants? - p - 1/31/2005 8:06:52 PM
  - re:???? - Raoul - 1/31/2005 9:13:26 PM
    - re: re:???? - p - 1/31/2005 10:01:56 PM

Embassy attackers nailed - Tom Brosz - 1/30/2005 9:01:57 PM
- Video link - Tom Brosz - 1/31/2005 8:29:22 PM

Gut check in Iraq--passed with flying colors - Tom Brosz - 1/31/2005 8:15:41 PM

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