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Kay rips Rice - alcaray - 8/19/2004 6:00:47 PM
- Why is Kay editing his memory and his public record? - ebnelson - 8/19/2004 11:43:29 PM
  - Perhaps... - Donald - 8/20/2004 12:53:13 AM
    - re: Perhaps...not - ebnelson - 8/20/2004 2:48:52 AM
      - Good grief - Donald - 8/20/2004 3:52:37 AM
        
        So, does that mean that before he actually went to Iraq, Kay was lying? ;) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/20/2004 5:19:20 AM
        
        Remeber, in Don-land, Iraq was a friendly harmless country in full cooperation withthe UN (n/t) - ebnelson - 8/20/2004 5:17:27 PM
- A CIA spokesman said: - Tony - 8/19/2004 7:28:29 PM

955 - Donald - 8/20/2004 1:09:29 PM

Remember Fallujah? - Tom Brosz - 8/20/2004 7:18:49 AM

Idle speculation about the Islamification of Europe - R.L. - 8/13/2004 9:27:47 AM
- John Rhys-Davis - McFly - 8/14/2004 1:27:59 AM
  - re: Rhys-Davis - Fox - 8/15/2004 2:17:20 AM
  - John Rhys-Davis: Same wine; new bottle - Mary Anne - 8/14/2004 6:22:23 AM
    - Some good points, but... - Tom Brosz - 8/14/2004 8:23:51 PM
      - Saudi Arabia - Mary Anne - 8/16/2004 1:21:20 AM
        
        "What makes Western culture...?" - Fox - 8/16/2004 3:03:01 AM
        
        All true, but what have they done in the last 800 years? - Tom Brosz - 8/16/2004 6:21:55 AM
        
        Muslims haven't done anything since circa 1453 - Lee - 8/16/2004 8:07:12 AM
    - Nope - Mark Eby - 8/14/2004 1:50:26 PM
      - I'm listening to the whole content just fine, thank you. - Mary Anne - 8/14/2004 4:15:18 PM
  - Why is self imposed genocide demanded of the people of Europe? - Lee - 8/14/2004 3:31:30 AM
    - Why does melanin mean so much to you - RL - 8/14/2004 8:55:38 PM
      - And why are you so hellbent on genocide? - Lee - 8/15/2004 2:29:42 AM
        
        how the hell is it genocide - R.L. - 8/15/2004 3:58:17 AM
        
        Genocide - Lee - 8/15/2004 4:53:01 AM
        
        You are either very very stupid, or... - R.L. - 8/15/2004 6:59:50 AM
        
        why do you think no-one bothered to reply to him - Daniel L - 8/15/2004 12:51:05 PM
        
        Typical leftwing felgercarb - Lee - 8/15/2004 7:38:55 AM
- not supported by recent Mick history - phil - 8/13/2004 1:47:38 PM
  - I'd tend to agree - McFly - 8/13/2004 5:09:20 PM
    - Time and injury - Mary Anne - 8/14/2004 6:45:49 AM
      - and ties that bind - Robert - 8/15/2004 1:27:58 AM
        
        It isn't the economy. - Tom Brosz - 8/16/2004 6:36:48 AM
        
        The instinct for disagreement runs strong in this one - Robert - 8/16/2004 2:48:03 PM
        
        Nobody else has an "alternate" approach either. - Tom Brosz - 8/16/2004 6:54:26 PM
        
        red straw herring man - Robert - 8/18/2004 4:12:03 AM
        
        That isn't going to work any more. - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2004 7:55:35 AM
        
        That was your best shot? - Robert - 8/18/2004 3:34:50 PM
        
        I'm sorry, what part of the "fifty million people" statement didn't come across? - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2004 7:23:07 PM
        
        I dare you - Robert - 8/19/2004 3:47:07 AM
        
        Give it up Robert. It's hopeless. - Art Martin - 8/19/2004 5:58:40 PM
        
        Ah feeeel their payun - Robert - 8/20/2004 3:00:02 AM
        
        It isn't my goddam premise, and why I'm voting for Bush. - Tom Brosz - 8/19/2004 11:01:53 PM
        
        re: ...why I'm voting for Bush. - Robert - 8/20/2004 2:42:25 AM
        
        Bait and switch - Mary Anne - 8/16/2004 11:40:10 AM
        
        The hijackers of 911 were pretty well off. - Lee - 8/16/2004 5:28:24 PM
        
        Thanks. - Mary Anne - 8/16/2004 1:33:48 AM
        
        Thanks. - Robert - 8/16/2004 3:58:38 AM
      - As always, Mary Anne... - McFly - 8/15/2004 12:30:23 AM

Anti-military policy protest - p the pig - 8/20/2004 2:01:59 AM

Kerry lul in campaigning - p - 8/18/2004 7:26:29 PM
- There seems to be a trend... - Larry J - 8/18/2004 8:15:42 PM
  - Back during the "postpone-the-convention" flap... - alcaray - 8/18/2004 9:14:15 PM
    - Actually, I think it was an advertising blackout for August - Larry J - 8/18/2004 10:06:08 PM
    - No, I think Larry's got it. - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2004 9:44:52 PM
      - He can do this and wind surf at the same time? - alcaray - 8/18/2004 11:09:12 PM
        
        The F-102 carries a single pilot. - Tom Brosz - 8/19/2004 1:57:20 AM
        
        Talking about current abilities - alcaray - 8/19/2004 3:45:47 PM
        
        re: current abilities - Tom Brosz - 8/19/2004 4:25:17 PM
        
        Whole shotgun full! - alcaray - 8/19/2004 5:30:05 PM
        
        re: Whole shotgun full! - Tom Brosz - 8/19/2004 5:44:35 PM
        
        re: Whole shotgun full! - alcaray - 8/19/2004 6:30:23 PM

Donald Rumsfeld on intelligence reform - "If we move unwisely and get it wrong, the penalty would be great." - Bowser - 8/17/2004 7:36:18 PM
- Step One in "doing it wisely" might have been to can Clinton's CIA guy. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/17/2004 8:00:36 PM
  - Changes need to be made in the Intel Community... - Larry J - 8/18/2004 5:41:32 PM
  - I say combine the CIA & FBI; make them one. (n/t) - Jacob Samorodin - 8/18/2004 5:20:26 PM
    - Problems with that one. - Art Martin - 8/19/2004 5:37:24 PM
  - As with Greenspan, he became Bush's guy. Can't blame Clinton. - Bowser - 8/18/2004 2:00:27 PM
    - Actually, Greenspan was "Reagan's guy." (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2004 6:12:54 PM
      - You misrepresent Bowser: did Greenspan not become Bush's guy? (n/t) - alcaray - 8/18/2004 9:17:10 PM
        
        Good point. For 8 years he was Clinton's guy, too. - Tom Brosz - 8/19/2004 4:36:08 AM

Iraq's Sadr Agrees to End Najaf Crisis - David F Mayer - 8/18/2004 4:45:09 PM
- I'll believe it when I see it. - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2004 6:33:22 PM
  - re: I'll believe it when I see it. - SteveS - 8/19/2004 3:02:18 AM
  - Why? - Mark Eby - 8/19/2004 1:47:38 AM
    - I think that the USA should knock him off as an example to others who interfere with the attempt to establish democracy. - David F Mayer - 8/19/2004 5:39:02 AM
      - I know what you meant, but somehow I think that sentence needs work. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/19/2004 4:32:30 PM

This just in. Al Sadr was lying... - Scott Evil - 8/19/2004 1:16:52 PM
- Man, what a cesspool. - Art Martin - 8/19/2004 4:08:40 PM
  - So, Sadr levels the mosque with his explosives. So what? - Tom Brosz - 8/19/2004 4:31:10 PM

Republican congressman calls Iraq war a mistake - Donald - 8/19/2004 2:03:18 AM
- Democratic Senator to be keynote speaker at Republican convention. - Tom Brosz - 8/19/2004 4:18:35 PM

Belmont Club on WW 4. - Tom Brosz - 8/17/2004 6:46:06 PM
- "American Prospect" on Bush's warfare against the Middle Class - Bowser - 8/17/2004 7:28:46 PM
  - Yeah, until Bush was elected, there were no corporate lobbies in Washington. - Tom Brosz - 8/17/2004 8:10:22 PM
- re: Changing the world? - Raoul - 8/17/2004 7:28:19 PM
  - re: Changing the world? - gbaikie - 8/18/2004 2:23:21 AM
- Held some pronise - Tony - 8/17/2004 6:51:26 PM
  - P.S. - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2004 7:10:01 AM
  - The real object of the exercise - Mary Anne - 8/18/2004 4:24:10 AM
  - re: Held some promise - Tom Brosz - 8/17/2004 8:06:14 PM
    - And you wonder why they call you "troll" :-) - Tony - 8/18/2004 1:17:18 PM
      - re: And you wonder why they call you "troll" :-) - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2004 5:08:18 PM
        
        re: And you wonder why they call you "troll" :-) - Tony - 8/18/2004 9:08:20 PM
        
        Ha ha - Lindy - 8/19/2004 4:10:24 PM
        
        Do you have a specific point you're arguing against, or are you just going to keep flinging adjectives? - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2004 10:49:14 PM
        
        Stand still and I'll try to make it one last time. - Tony - 8/19/2004 3:14:26 PM
        
        You're wasting your time Tom - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/19/2004 1:03:57 AM

Cannabis extract shrinks brain tumours - Joey - 8/15/2004 9:08:32 PM
- re: Yes, but have you ever noticed that frequent smokers of the stuff have real bad body oder? - Scott Evil - 8/16/2004 9:32:30 PM
- THC use mimics Alzheimer's disease. - Bowser - 8/16/2004 1:54:16 AM
  - You had better inform the researchers about your conclusions because they have not seen that yet. (n/t) - Eric - 8/16/2004 1:31:06 PM
    - A: Where's it wrong? B: Researchers know it. - Bowser - 8/16/2004 4:14:36 PM
    - Maybe they did and you forgot - FrankC - 8/16/2004 4:08:23 PM
  - Friends of mine devolved into pot heads - Gary - 8/16/2004 4:05:12 AM
    - One of my daughter's friends did the same. This FORMERLY brilliant young man is now as dumb as a rock and just about as listless. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 8/17/2004 4:50:51 PM
      - Umm, and there are counter examples of those that have excelled while using pot- shall we use them to advocate pot use? - R.L. - 8/18/2004 12:33:46 AM
        
        re: Umm, and there are counter examples of those that have excelled while using pot- shall we use them to advocate pot use? - SteveS - 8/18/2004 7:21:01 PM
    - SIGH... rubbish... - R.L. - 8/16/2004 8:58:29 AM
      - "War on Some Drugs" - Tom Brosz - 8/16/2004 10:53:39 PM
        
        Taxation and drug rehabilitation camps - Gary - 8/17/2004 4:28:26 AM
        
        You made a point Gary....... - Lindy - 8/19/2004 3:56:32 PM
      - re: SIGH... rubbish... - Art Martin - 8/16/2004 4:43:40 PM
        
        Long term effects [be socially responsible] - Gary - 8/17/2004 4:15:33 AM
        
        I had a freind who O.D.ed on religion...He can barely put together a coherant sentence now. - Scott Evil - 8/16/2004 9:37:07 PM
- Note the research was done in Spain. In the US they would jail the researchers for 20 years. (n/t) - Eric - 8/16/2004 1:44:53 AM
- as it shrinks the brain (n/t) - FrankC - 8/15/2004 10:41:16 PM

953 - Donald - 8/19/2004 12:37:41 PM

Pro-choice forces lose out in Florida - Tom Brosz - 8/17/2004 2:34:35 AM
- Mea culpa. I apologize. I jumped to a conclusion without reading. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 8/19/2004 6:07:26 AM
- Too bad. I always wonder how the "Conservatives" can justify the intrusion into a woman's private life and body. - David F Mayer - 8/17/2004 6:21:18 PM
  - I think you just proved you dont read Tom's links ;-) (n/t) - Tony - 8/18/2004 3:04:42 PM
    - And I work so hard on these posts, too! - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2004 8:37:36 PM
      - Doesn't help that DFM never reads more than halfway down the page....... ;-) (n/t) - Tony - 8/18/2004 9:09:27 PM

Polls, alternate universes, and John McCain - Robert - 8/19/2004 3:26:56 AM
- Fascinating. Thanks. - Bowser - 8/19/2004 5:00:47 AM
- From the magazine... - Tom Brosz - 8/19/2004 4:18:02 AM
- re: Polls, alternate universes, and John McCain - Tom Brosz - 8/19/2004 4:12:10 AM

Where are we going? - Gary - 8/18/2004 4:13:07 PM
- Up Then Down - Mark Eby - 8/19/2004 3:02:24 AM
- some reasons & personal thoughts - Daniel L - 8/18/2004 6:50:38 PM

Bloggers becoming politicans- in Iraq - gbaikie - 8/18/2004 4:57:43 AM
- An update from Iraq the Model - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2004 9:12:21 PM
  - re: An update from Iraq the Model - SteveS - 8/19/2004 2:46:04 AM
- That is the coolest thing I've seen all week! (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2004 8:03:24 AM

Kerry campaign dancing as fast as it can on Cambodia issue - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2004 5:58:33 PM
- Senator Tom Harkin and the "war party." - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2004 6:10:57 PM
  - What Were They Thinking? - Mark Eby - 8/19/2004 1:53:36 AM
    - You'll notice... - Tom Brosz - 8/19/2004 2:42:15 AM

Kerry's VFW speech - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2004 6:24:08 PM
- re: Kerry's VFW speech - SteveS - 8/18/2004 10:41:17 PM
  - re: Kerry's VFW speech - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2004 11:03:46 PM

"US suspends Halliburton decision" - Bowser - 8/18/2004 2:02:32 AM
- Halliburton and Military Logistics - SteveS - 8/18/2004 10:58:04 PM

Another proposal for "oil for the Iraqis" - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2004 9:59:23 PM

Any where in Vietnam was dangerous...get a clue! - Chris Vancil - 8/16/2004 10:29:18 AM
- Its sounding more and more like Kerry had no idea what he was "volunteering for". And once he figured that out he wanted out ASAP. - Scott Evil - 8/16/2004 4:55:12 PM
- The issue of my post was comparing real motivation to advertised motivation. - Tom Brosz - 8/16/2004 3:48:35 PM
  - re: Yes, I knew your motives as well...Just as Scott's Kerry volunteered for a second tour in a place not safe...Bush never did either... (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 8/16/2004 5:27:29 PM
    - The guy self inflicted minor injuries and then got the Hell out of Dodge. - Scott Evil - 8/16/2004 7:35:41 PM
      - I've seen nothing so far that convinced me he "self-inflicted" injuries. - Tom Brosz - 8/16/2004 8:13:15 PM
        
        Self-inflicted injuries - Larry J - 8/17/2004 5:34:04 PM
    - I have seen nothing indicating that Kerry has a choice about going to Vietnam for his second tour. - Tom Brosz - 8/16/2004 7:17:55 PM
      - re: Germany like most others... (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 8/16/2004 11:01:46 PM
        
        Source? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/16/2004 11:07:46 PM
        
        re: Family and friends who are Vietnam Vets... (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 8/18/2004 11:33:20 AM
        
        They got to pick between the two assignments? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2004 8:40:12 PM

Israel keeps the heat on the terrorists. - David F Mayer - 8/18/2004 8:28:27 AM
- Killers keep on killing other killers. No peace unless they NEGOTIATE - Lindy - 8/18/2004 1:14:42 PM
  - They've been negotiating for decades. Where have you been? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2004 6:28:08 PM
  - Israel can not negotiate with Hamas or Jihad. These terrorists have rejected all compromise categorically. - David F Mayer - 8/18/2004 4:42:47 PM

The End of the World has come - David F Mayer - 8/18/2004 4:40:36 PM
- wow, such humility - Daniel - 8/18/2004 5:34:25 PM
- EOTW?...That particular region is a prime candidate, according to John, the friend and apostle of Jesus. (n/t) - Jacob Samorodin - 8/18/2004 5:13:50 PM
  - Of course you were using a figure of speech, Dave? (n/t) - Jacob Samorodin - 8/18/2004 5:16:31 PM

"they discarded the concept of "live and let live" a long time ago." - Bowser - 8/18/2004 1:53:40 AM
- Same old song. - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2004 7:10:30 AM
  - That fact sheet was overblown - Lindy - 8/18/2004 2:51:36 PM
  - Let's just take a look at a recent event and one from a while ago.. - Bowser - 8/18/2004 1:49:37 PM
    - re: recent events - Tom Brosz - 8/18/2004 4:34:49 PM
  - I agree, one ought only to count the most recent events, perhaps within the last 10-20 years. - AZ - 8/18/2004 11:32:06 AM
- Aw Bowser...........why did you go and ruin it? - Lindy - 8/18/2004 5:49:43 AM
  - Education is a fine thing - Lindy - 8/18/2004 5:52:48 AM

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