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Fake Microsoft patch viruses - Tom Brosz - 9/21/2003 6:55:03 AM

What the Iraq speech cost Bush - Don - 9/20/2003 2:04:21 PM
- Meanwhile: Iraq Governing Council member shot - Don - 9/20/2003 2:06:25 PM
  - And: Soldiers on edge in Iraq as attacks increase - Don - 9/20/2003 2:09:46 PM
    - While Bush mutters... - Don - 9/20/2003 2:36:58 PM
      - And this happy scene is like, how long after the war in Kosovo? - Tom Brosz - 9/20/2003 4:17:24 PM
        
        Our presence there - Don - 9/20/2003 4:26:39 PM
        
        re: Kosovo parallels - Tom Brosz - 9/21/2003 4:37:00 AM
        
        Oops....scratch "ten years." Four. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/20/2003 4:19:20 PM

Saddam and Al Qaeda - Tom Brosz - 9/18/2003 4:43:44 PM
- Even Bush threw in the towel yesterday and admitted no connection (n/t) - Robert - 9/18/2003 5:29:28 PM
  - Bush administration developing a conscience? Nah! (n/t) - alcaray - 9/18/2003 6:28:35 PM
  - No connection with 9/11 specifically. Pay attention. - Tom Brosz - 9/18/2003 6:10:23 PM
    - Sorry... - Tom Brosz - 9/18/2003 6:25:16 PM
      - Yeah, it is pretty sorry - Robert - 9/18/2003 7:03:31 PM
        
        re: Yeah, it is pretty sorry - gbaikie - 9/19/2003 5:38:23 AM
        
        Pulling aside the curtain - Robert - 9/19/2003 4:50:52 PM
        
        re: Pulling aside the curtain - Tom Brosz - 9/19/2003 10:51:32 PM
        
        re: Pulling aside the curtain - Robert - 9/20/2003 12:12:46 AM
        
        Who really has the dim view of Americans? - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/19/2003 10:14:10 PM
        
        re: Who really has the dim view of Americans? - Robert - 9/20/2003 12:16:04 AM
        
        Actually... - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/20/2003 1:11:22 AM
        
        re: Pulling aside the curtain - gbaikie - 9/19/2003 6:04:54 PM
        
        Irrational "Hatred" of Bush? - Lindy - 9/19/2003 7:21:55 PM
        
        re: Irrational "Hatred" of Bush? - gbaikie - 9/20/2003 5:24:00 AM
        
        I give up. You can lead a horse to water but you can't force him to drink. (n/t) - Robert - 9/19/2003 6:07:50 PM
        
        re: I give up. You can lead a horse to water but you can't force him to drink. - gbaikie - 9/21/2003 1:07:25 AM
  - re: Even Bush threw in the towel yesterday and admitted no connection - Lindy - 9/18/2003 5:38:50 PM
    - Not if the President's party has a lock on Congress and the Supreme Court (n/t) - Robert - 9/18/2003 5:47:05 PM
      - You Folks Sadden Me... - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/18/2003 7:50:59 PM
        
        The old bait and switch. - RobVG - 9/19/2003 1:45:32 AM
        
        re: The old bait and switch. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/20/2003 12:04:55 AM
        
        Oh well........ - Lindy - 9/19/2003 1:04:41 AM
        
        Planet of the Apes - Greg - 9/20/2003 6:30:05 AM
        
        Goebbels would be proud - Robert - 9/18/2003 8:38:21 PM
        
        We invaded Iraq to benefit the Palestinians? That's a new one. (n/t) - alcaray - 9/18/2003 8:28:15 PM
        
        Real Simple Formulas - SDAI-Tech` - 9/18/2003 9:11:04 PM
        
        re: Real Simple Formulas - Marcia - 9/19/2003 9:22:55 PM
        
        Oh crap! I goaded Tech into explaining something to me. (n/t) - alcaray - 9/18/2003 10:44:53 PM
        
        Hey, let' s be careful out there ;-) (n/t) - Tony - 9/18/2003 11:52:52 PM
- re: Saddam and Al Qaeda - LJ - 9/18/2003 5:00:59 PM

What do you call it - LJ - 4/16/2003 1:40:59 PM
- I call it: - Fox - 4/18/2003 1:57:13 PM
- How did the powerful member gain his power? - Scott - 4/17/2003 6:03:47 PM
  - Does it matter how he got his power if he uses force to keep it? n/t (n/t) - Mary Anne - 4/17/2003 6:20:00 PM
    - Good point. Not really. - Scott - 4/17/2003 6:23:24 PM
- You're making a false assumption - Matt Burley - 4/17/2003 5:14:14 PM
  - Re: "In fact, it is good and proper that we force our will upon them." - alcaray - 4/17/2003 5:30:07 PM
    - Re: - gbaikie - 4/17/2003 7:06:21 PM
- Re: Okay, so what DO you call it? - Tom Brosz - 4/17/2003 5:10:22 PM
- Give it up - alcaray - 4/17/2003 4:31:27 PM
  - Sounds like YOU know what point he's trying to get at. Care to let the rest of us in on it? (n/t) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 4/17/2003 4:55:30 PM
    - I give up - alcaray - 4/17/2003 5:06:32 PM
      - Re: I give up - gbaikie - 4/17/2003 7:42:40 PM
        
        re: Re: I give up - tony_loves_the_cock - 9/21/2003 12:38:26 AM
        
        re: - alcaray - 4/17/2003 9:58:21 AM
        
        Re: re: - gbaikie - 4/17/2003 3:24:38 PM
      - Disagreement - Tom Brosz - 4/17/2003 5:32:54 PM
        
        Full of whacky Republican memes - alcaray - 4/17/2003 6:38:22 PM
        
        Revenge as a leadership strategy - Mary Anne - 4/17/2003 5:52:12 PM
        
        But we don't want to be an example... - Scott - 4/17/2003 6:19:40 PM
        
        Really Scott, REALLY? - et - 4/17/2003 8:17:44 AM
  - If there's a point, make it. Devil's in the details, though. nt (n/t) - Occasional Reader - 4/17/2003 4:36:36 PM
    - I think LJ made it and I wouldn't step on his toes - alcaray - 4/17/2003 5:00:23 PM
- Politics...nt (n/t) - R.L. - 4/17/2003 11:37:54 AM
- Re: What do you call it - LJ - 4/17/2003 10:04:51 AM
  - So what was the "correct" answer to your question? n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 4/17/2003 10:30:46 AM
    - Current US foreign policy and agenda n/t (n/t) - LJ - 4/17/2003 10:47:30 AM
      - When I look in the dictionary for the word, "naive" - ebnelson - 4/17/2003 1:25:28 PM
- Don't think you're going to want to hear the accurate answers. (n/t) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 4/16/2003 6:41:47 PM
- A parent... - FrankC - 4/16/2003 4:03:51 PM
  - Not a good one. Parents should use violence as the last resort, if ever. And parents should *never* threaten. n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 4/17/2003 3:12:23 PM
    - Since you and I agree.. - FrankC - 4/17/2003 7:13:40 PM
      - Up to a point - alcaray - 4/17/2003 10:05:11 AM
- Re: What do you call it? Coercion n/t (n/t) - ebnelson - 4/16/2003 2:39:19 PM
  - Intimidation (n/t) - Lindy n/t - 4/16/2003 3:54:55 PM
    - Sometimes you call it brilliant leadership. Like right now. n/t (n/t) - ebnelson - 4/16/2003 3:58:18 PM
- Re: What do you call it - gbaikie - 4/16/2003 2:19:37 PM
  - You could also call it "capitalism"... - Mary Anne - 4/17/2003 6:12:49 PM
  - Re: What do you call it - LJ - 4/16/2003 4:14:31 PM
    - Re: What do you call it - McFly - 4/17/2003 2:45:48 PM
      - I think LJ was responding in kind to Gbaikie's flip "socialism" remark. n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 4/17/2003 4:29:05 PM
        
        My bad, LJ...sorry... - McFly - 4/17/2003 6:40:27 PM
        
        Considering the history of socialism, it's hardly flippant - Occasional Reader - 4/17/2003 4:33:52 PM
        
        Why would we try to make it work when it has failed so many times before? - Scott - 4/17/2003 6:31:05 PM
    - Filling in for Bowser LJ? (n/t) (n/t) - RobVG - 4/17/2003 2:07:45 PM
    - Re: What do you call it - REB - 4/17/2003 12:10:37 PM
    - Another leftist slipping over mental event horizon? (n/t) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 4/16/2003 6:43:06 PM
      - Yeah, we're leaving you nutzoids behind... (n/t) - Davin L. - 4/17/2003 2:36:24 PM
        
        Good...have a nice trip! (n/t) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 4/17/2003 4:52:28 PM
    - Re: What do you call it - gbaikie - 4/16/2003 6:30:34 PM
      - Odai's human shredder machine. - REB - 4/17/2003 11:41:53 AM
        
        Please do not inject reality into LJ's hypothetical scenario - Occasional Reader - 4/17/2003 4:29:09 PM
        
        Odai Hussein's reminds me of the Beast Rabban Harkonnen from Dune - REB - 4/17/2003 4:58:19 PM
        
        Uh, NO. - et - 4/17/2003 8:25:52 AM
        
        The Spice must flow? - Robert E. B. - 4/18/2003 11:11:57 AM

Isabel's Cost: 29 Lives; $1 Billion . . . - D. Spires - 9/21/2003 12:11:06 AM

Iraq Official Shot in Assassination Try . . . - D. Spires - 9/20/2003 11:42:09 PM

Chirac, Schroeder, Blair Urge Swift Transfer Of Power In Iraq . . . - D. Spires - 9/20/2003 10:34:24 PM

Somebody yanked Clark's chain... - Tom Brosz - 9/19/2003 10:34:37 PM
- re: His campaign just might bleed to death . . . - D. Spires - 9/20/2003 3:43:06 PM
  - yah, he's blowing his role as Hillary's Vice Presidential running mate (n/t) - p - 9/20/2003 6:59:46 PM
- Even Sam Donaldson thinks the Gen. is the clinton's sock puppet - ebnelson - 9/20/2003 4:16:45 AM
- Even Sam Donaldson thinks the Gen. is the clinton's sock puppet - ebnelson - 9/20/2003 4:16:36 AM
- Even Sam Donaldson thinks the Gen. is the clinton's sock puppet - ebnelson - 9/20/2003 4:16:27 AM
  - Sorry Sorry Sorry (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/20/2003 4:18:30 AM

Labor Loses Parliament Seat; Vote Seen as a Rebuff to Blair . . . - D. Spires - 9/20/2003 5:18:25 PM

In Iraq, Demand Makes Security Growth Industry . . . - D. Spires - 9/20/2003 5:11:05 PM

Our trigger happy troops do it again... - Jack Herer - 9/19/2003 4:25:35 PM
- re: Our trigger happy troops do it again... - Pete - 9/20/2003 6:14:23 AM
- Looks like you got a horde of angry dudes ready to kill the messenger. ha ha. (n/t) - Peter - 9/20/2003 1:42:06 AM
  - re: The messenger was dead when he arrived . . . - D. Spires - 9/20/2003 3:29:50 PM
- re: Our trigger happy posters do it again - D. Spires - 9/19/2003 6:52:06 PM
- Meanwhile, General Clark is about to give a foreign policy speech at the University of Iowa! - Scott Evil - 9/19/2003 5:09:04 PM
- Nice blanket indictment of US volunteers by a losah (n/t) - p - 9/19/2003 4:46:42 PM

No Evidence of Smallpox Found in Iraq - Don - 9/18/2003 7:19:15 PM
- re: No Evidence of Smallpox Found in Iraq - Tom Brosz - 9/18/2003 9:23:07 PM
  - Hmmmm - Don - 9/19/2003 4:18:07 AM
    - Trailers - Tom Brosz - 9/19/2003 4:59:11 AM
      - re: Trailers - Don - 9/19/2003 12:58:51 PM
      - surely you can't be serious - Greg - 9/19/2003 8:08:35 AM
        
        To coin a phrase, serious as a heart attack. - Tom Brosz - 9/19/2003 9:20:02 PM
        
        oh boy - Greg - 9/20/2003 6:41:07 AM
        
        Trailers - Tom Brosz - 9/20/2003 7:16:02 AM
        
        re: Trailers - Greg - 9/20/2003 7:51:23 AM
- Meanwhile: U.S. convoy attacked in central Iraq - Don - 9/18/2003 7:22:01 PM
  - re: Meanwhile: U.S. convoy attacked in central Iraq - LJ - 9/18/2003 7:55:26 PM

Kennedy calls case for war a â€˜fraudâ€™ - Don - 9/19/2003 4:26:16 AM
- Ted didn't mean what he said, it was the liquor talking. (n/t) - Lee - 9/20/2003 6:53:27 AM
- If Kennedy says it, then it must be true... - Scott Evil - 9/19/2003 5:00:27 PM
  - "How about we just deal with whether a fact or argument is right or wrong instead of whether the arguer is a Minion Of Satan or not?" (n/t) - alcaray (channeling Tom) - 9/19/2003 5:43:04 PM
- An obvious case of guilt transfer if ever there was one. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/19/2003 12:51:56 PM
- re: Kennedy calls case for war a â€˜fraudâ€™ - gbaikie - 9/19/2003 9:37:57 AM
- money is being used to bribe foreign leaders to send in troops - FrankC - 9/19/2003 8:34:13 AM
  - Actually Frank... - Don - 9/19/2003 1:07:16 PM
    - True. What's it matter. Kennedy will forever be remembered as the drunk who's brother was President - Scott Evil - 9/19/2003 5:02:53 PM
- Meanwhile: Blair Loses Key Vote as Iraq Problems Take Toll - Don - 9/19/2003 4:35:05 AM

Scientists: Terrorists Cannot Build Dirty Bomb from Iraqi Booty . . . - D. Spires - 9/19/2003 9:35:00 PM
- brilliant planning - Greg - 9/20/2003 6:13:40 AM

We're at war with France - p - 9/18/2003 7:13:56 PM
- The fight scene at the end of "Blazing Saddles" comes to mind (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/20/2003 4:21:37 AM
- No, they are at war with us - Buster - 9/19/2003 5:46:56 PM
- re: We're at war with France - ebnelson - 9/19/2003 3:00:06 AM

Alleged al-Qaeda Gunman Shot in Hostage Drama . . . - D. Spires - 9/19/2003 10:07:15 PM
- It happened a few blocks from where I use to live. - Lee - 9/20/2003 1:21:10 AM

Brosz'a puppeteers get richer - Buster - 9/19/2003 5:41:27 PM
- re: richer - Tom Brosz - 9/19/2003 7:51:55 PM
  - Somebody Yanked Brosz's Chain (n/t) - Mark Eby - 9/20/2003 12:16:50 AM

Hillary. - Tom Brosz - 9/18/2003 2:10:11 AM
- LOL! - Mary Anne - 9/19/2003 8:34:07 PM
  - Like I said, wait and see. - Tom Brosz - 9/19/2003 10:57:21 PM
- Let her come. - ebnelson - 9/18/2003 11:56:19 AM
  - Patience Ed - Don - 9/18/2003 2:01:24 PM
- Give me a break - Don - 9/18/2003 4:06:54 AM
  - OK - ebnelson - 9/18/2003 11:58:26 AM
    - Cripes Ed - Don - 9/18/2003 1:21:26 PM
  - re: Give me a break - gbaikie - 9/18/2003 7:31:15 AM
    - There's a difference Geoff - Don - 9/18/2003 1:38:27 PM
      - re: There's a difference Geoff - gbaikie - 9/18/2003 8:25:48 PM
  - Wait and see. - Tom Brosz - 9/18/2003 4:28:21 AM
    - The point is Tom... - Don - 9/18/2003 12:48:56 PM
      - re: The point is Ms. Clinton lies like a rug - Tom Brosz - 9/18/2003 2:36:00 PM
        
        Your irrational hostility... - Don - 9/18/2003 7:55:05 PM

Are you worse off than Mom and Dad . . . ? - D. Spires - 9/16/2003 7:15:40 PM
- A damning indictment of government spending. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/17/2003 2:11:52 AM
- re: Are you worse off than Mom and Dad . . . ? Guess why. - Tom Brosz - 9/16/2003 8:16:04 PM
  - Comparing Apples And Oranges. - Mark Eby - 9/17/2003 2:51:15 PM
    - Graduated rates - FrankC - 9/18/2003 2:56:50 AM
      - It depends on how you define "rich" - Larry J - 9/18/2003 3:29:13 PM
    - BTW... - Tom Brosz - 9/17/2003 5:25:24 PM
    - Good point - Tom Brosz - 9/17/2003 5:22:26 PM
    - On The Other Hand So Is The Whole Debate - Mark Eby - 9/17/2003 3:04:14 PM
  - this is why we need Gov't Daycare! - Anne Leftleaner - 9/17/2003 12:19:35 AM
  - re: Are you worse off than Mom and Dad . . . ? Guess why. - LJ - 9/16/2003 8:41:43 PM
    - BTW... - Tom Brosz - 9/16/2003 9:14:15 PM
      - re: 60s RVing . . . - D. Spires - 9/16/2003 10:56:40 PM
        
        Tough times and taxes - Tom Brosz - 9/17/2003 1:01:14 AM
        
        re: I know, Tom . . . - D. Spires - 9/19/2003 10:21:51 PM
    - Some numbers. - Tom Brosz - 9/16/2003 9:11:27 PM
      - Who can afford coffee? - LJ - 9/16/2003 10:05:10 PM
        
        Some other stats... - LJ - 9/16/2003 10:17:58 PM
        
        One for Mary Anne - LJ - 9/16/2003 10:27:18 PM
        
        Georgia on my mind - Mary Anne - 9/17/2003 3:45:39 AM
    - Military budget - LJ - 9/16/2003 8:50:19 PM

Indonesia Arrests 15 in Bomb Plot . . . - D. Spires - 9/19/2003 8:47:49 PM

Two Explosive-Laden Cars Found in Chechnya . . . - D. Spires - 9/19/2003 8:32:12 PM

idiotarianism - FrankC - 9/19/2003 7:52:02 AM
- The only one who has encouraged me to read Chomsky is Tom. (n/t) - alcaray - 9/19/2003 4:32:31 PM
  - Chomsky is a darling of the French - FrankC - 9/19/2003 8:31:07 PM
- If Noam Chomskyis the answer, the quesiton must be - ebnelson - 9/19/2003 12:49:39 PM
  - Fun with Google - Gary - 9/19/2003 3:35:22 PM

THE VALERIE PLAME AFFAIR:JOSEPH WILSON FINGERS KARL ROVE - Greg - 8/26/2003 1:16:42 PM
- re: THE VALERIE PLAME AFFAIR:JOSEPH WILSON FINGERS KARL ROVE - Coralie - 9/19/2003 8:19:29 PM
- it's 8/24/2003 and still no WMD - FrankC - 8/26/2003 9:12:59 PM
  - re: it's 8/24/2003 and still no WMD - Davin L. - 8/27/2003 2:30:58 AM
    - high crimes and misdemenours - Greg - 8/27/2003 3:06:03 AM
      - I doubt it will result in a criminal proceeding - alcaray - 8/27/2003 3:38:35 PM
        
        re: I doubt it will result in a criminal proceeding - Greg - 8/28/2003 12:20:37 PM
- "A straw! Another straw! Thank God!" - the Democratic Party (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/26/2003 7:12:46 PM

Kennedy's 'Texas' Remark Stirs GOP Reaction . . . - D. Spires - 9/19/2003 7:25:08 PM

Husseinâ€™s Former Defense Chief Surrenders . . . - D. Spires - 9/19/2003 7:12:40 PM

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