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re: the "Bush Lied" meme
RobVG — (archived)

That the Bush administration, with malice aforethought, deliberately attempted to deceive Congress, the public, and whoever it may concern in order to go to war with Iraq.

I still choose not to believe that. I had no problem with Hawkins defense of Bush until I got to the line about the irrelevance of WMD. Before the war, there was a healthy debate here over weather we were justified in taking action. We looked at, and presented whatever evidence we found supporting our position. The case for war was made on basis that 1) Saddam had WMD 2) there were likely ties to Al Qaida. The fact that Saddam was a murderous tyrant was secondary.

Now with Saddam’s capture and things like the ‘discovery’ of mass graves (surprise surprise) we are forgetting what we so passionately argued about. It’s a total focus shift.

The only way I can "erode the truth" is by presenting falsehoods. If I am, point them out.

I wasn’t saying you present falsehoods but you are contributing to shift the focus away from points that should not be ignored.

But to make the statement that we would have no business taking action after an attack on us, if we had no business taking the same action before such an attack, is a bit silly. Bombing Tokyo before Pearl Harbor would have been an entirely different moral and political act than bombing Tokyo after Pearl Harbor, even though both actions would have been the same tactically.

You twisted that a little bit. I didn’t make that statement. My point was, if removing Saddam to free the Iraqis from an evil dictator was a “proper” action, it would have been done regardless of whether we were attacked or not.

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