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Saddam's Delusions - Tom Brosz - 3/25/2006 7:09:29 PM
- re: Bush's Delusions - Publius - 3/25/2006 7:21:43 PM
  - Try actually reading the articles. You might learn something. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/25/2006 7:45:20 PM

Grim milestone... - Tom Brosz - 3/20/2006 8:35:32 AM
- Or - Larry J - 3/24/2006 3:23:57 PM
- re: Grim milestone... - Publius - 3/23/2006 9:02:14 PM
  - Definition of casualty - Larry J - 3/24/2006 3:18:38 PM
    - clearly I intended "fatality"---thanks for pointing it out.... - Publius - 3/25/2006 1:27:52 PM
- While you're crunching numbers don't forget to add in the injured. - podrock - 3/21/2006 3:36:04 AM
- Don't bother Tom. - SDAI-Tech1 - 3/21/2006 2:54:12 AM
- re: Grim milestone... - R.L. - 3/20/2006 10:47:08 PM
  - re: Grim milestone... - Tom Brosz - 3/21/2006 3:40:42 AM
    - You really seem incapable of grasping the point... - R.L. - 3/21/2006 4:46:43 AM
      - re: You really seem incapable of grasping the point... - gbaikie - 3/21/2006 5:38:50 AM
        
        You really are clueless.... - R.L. - 3/21/2006 9:38:02 PM
- Driving up the mountain today... - R.L. - 3/20/2006 10:32:16 PM
- re: Grim milestone... - Doug Ellison - 3/20/2006 3:43:00 PM
  - "Personally, the number is 1." - Tom Brosz - 3/20/2006 7:31:44 PM
    - Surely you've heard of Pyrrhic victories? - Robert - 3/21/2006 12:59:11 AM
    - It was a fair question - dtb - 3/20/2006 11:59:58 PM
      - Wait wait wait...hold on there. - Lee - 3/21/2006 6:49:52 AM
        
        re: Wait wait wait...hold on there. - dtb - 3/21/2006 7:33:43 AM
      - If that strawman was any bigger, I could take it to the Burning Man festival. - Tom Brosz - 3/21/2006 5:03:07 AM
        
        I'm still trying to picture you at Burning Man! (n/t) - podrock - 3/23/2006 3:15:29 AM
        
        re: If that strawman was any bigger, I could take it to the Burning Man festival. - dtb - 3/21/2006 7:29:13 AM
        
        re: If that strawman was any bigger, I could take it to the Burning Man festival. - gbaikie - 3/21/2006 11:50:38 AM
        
        Taiwan IS an independent country. - Lee - 3/21/2006 3:14:15 PM
        
        re: Taiwan IS an independent country. - gbaikie - 3/21/2006 11:16:00 PM
        
        re: Taiwan IS an independent country. - REB - 3/22/2006 3:02:01 PM
      - For Tom the loss of life and wealth is not the issue... - R.L. - 3/21/2006 12:05:49 AM
        
        re: For R.L. and others the war is not the issue... - Tom Brosz - 3/21/2006 5:07:42 AM
        
        "The Iraqi civilian dead over the past three years is STILL far less than the average killed annually by Saddam over his regime, " - R.L. - 3/21/2006 9:42:53 PM
        
        WHAT BS - R.L. - 3/21/2006 9:41:12 PM
        
        does that annual average include the Iraq-Iran war and the gassing of the Kurds? (n/t) - Tony - 3/21/2006 7:37:02 PM
        
        Nice try, but I can see the boilerplate response a mile away. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/21/2006 8:22:19 PM
        
        Unless he's invading Iran or committing another attempted genocide, those average numbers are just plain bogus. (n/t) - Tony - 3/21/2006 9:38:14 PM
        
        Your faith in Saddam's future behavior apparently exceeds mine. - Tom Brosz - 3/21/2006 10:28:38 PM
        
        To keep up his historical average - Tony - 3/22/2006 6:39:28 PM
        
        "When we invaded Iraq, there was no active program." - Doug Ellison - 3/22/2006 9:57:24 AM
        
        We were told "the smoking gun could come in the form of a mushroom cloud" - R.L. - 3/22/2006 12:13:10 PM
        
        And now we know for certain that it won't. - Lee - 3/23/2006 6:19:41 AM
        
        Yeah, but you are a bigot and an idiot- so who really cares? - R.L. - 3/23/2006 10:26:55 AM
        
        Your inability to form an argument without resorting to name calling is amusing. - Lee - 3/23/2006 8:18:40 PM
        
        re: For R.L. and others the war is not the issue... - gbaikie - 3/21/2006 5:31:17 AM
    - avoiding the question - Doug Ellison - 3/20/2006 9:02:31 PM
    - Really? How? - Raoul - 3/20/2006 8:57:12 PM
      - re: Really? How? - gbaikie - 3/20/2006 9:11:26 PM
        
        re: Really? How? - Raoul - 3/20/2006 10:42:45 PM
        
        re: Really? How? - gbaikie - 3/21/2006 2:38:03 AM
- It shows that our strategy is faulted. - David F Mayer - 3/20/2006 2:32:20 PM

No abuse of detainees - Tom Brosz - 3/25/2006 4:39:31 AM
- Aw, comeone. I've already seen much better attempts to smear these three. - et - 3/25/2006 8:08:33 AM

Political Feasibility Human Mission To Mars SURVEY - Fabio Sau - 3/24/2006 5:23:20 PM
- I don't work in the space sector, so I guess I'm not qualified to take the survey? (n/t) - alcaray - 3/24/2006 6:02:54 PM
  - re: I don't work in the space sector, so I guess I'm not qualified to take the survey? - Fabio Sau - 3/24/2006 6:04:45 PM
    - also, I'm pretty sure you would get a better response, if you posted this on the Space board. - alcaray - 3/24/2006 6:35:43 PM
    - re: I don't work in the space sector, so I guess I'm not qualified to take the survey? - Fabio Sau - 3/24/2006 6:14:27 PM

Civilian deaths in Iraq... Ain't democracy grand... - R.L. - 3/22/2006 8:56:15 AM
- What does 250 billion get you.... - R.L. - 3/22/2006 10:30:50 AM
  - "these liberals have been calling it a quagmire for years" - Tony - 3/23/2006 4:40:36 PM
  - re: What does 250 billion get you.... - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2006 7:54:19 PM
    - Is it your contention that we somehow ARE better off? - R.L. - 3/23/2006 2:54:27 AM
      - I'm tired, R.L. - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2006 3:41:21 AM
        
        Yeah, having to do moral flips flops takes a lot out of a guy... - R.L. - 3/23/2006 3:58:12 AM
        
        Dn't blame you for dodging the question... - R.L. - 3/23/2006 3:51:38 AM
    - You guys have similar wet dreams all the time, over on space - alcaray - 3/22/2006 10:38:49 PM
      - My position on space... - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2006 12:34:56 AM
        
        My position on space... - Robert - 3/23/2006 2:07:03 AM
        
        But capsules should remain in LEO - Lee - 3/24/2006 9:01:54 AM
        
        re: But capsules should remain in LEO - Robert - 3/24/2006 4:35:50 PM
        
        Thanks... - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2006 2:26:31 AM
        
        Roger that (n/t) - Robert - 3/23/2006 2:39:47 AM
  - The funny thing is, 250 billion is a number Tom finds acceptable - R.L. - 3/22/2006 10:33:49 AM
    - re: The funny thing is, 250 billion is a number Tom finds acceptable - gbaikie - 3/22/2006 1:44:39 PM
      - Again, the death total in other wars is not relevant - R.L. - 3/24/2006 4:40:25 PM
    - And it all started waaaayyy back..... when? - SDF - 3/22/2006 11:39:50 AM
      - And the point you are ineptly trying to make is? (n/t) - R.L. - 3/22/2006 1:08:25 PM
        
        I........ don't......... know........ can't........ think....... too...... inept...... (n/t) - SDF - 3/23/2006 11:41:36 AM

Endgame Conservatives - gbaikie - 3/23/2006 8:16:18 AM
- re: Endgame Conservatives - gb - 3/23/2006 10:51:31 PM
  - re: Endgame Conservatives - SDG - 3/23/2006 11:53:33 PM

Uhh, problem with family STRANDED in RV? - carl - 3/22/2006 8:27:35 PM
- Turns out it could have been a phony setup. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/23/2006 5:49:30 PM
- re: Uhh, problem with family STRANDED in RV? - Bowser - 3/23/2006 2:49:55 AM
  - re: Uhh, problem with family STRANDED in RV? - SDG - 3/23/2006 8:38:12 PM
- The Hills Have Eyes. 8-) (n/t) - Lee - 3/23/2006 2:35:46 AM

World Water Day - ljk - 3/22/2006 5:09:20 PM
- You know England...really wet and rainy... - Doug Ellison - 3/23/2006 12:38:12 AM
  - re: You know England...really wet and rainy... - ljk - 3/23/2006 4:53:57 PM
    - re: You know England...really wet and rainy... - Doug Ellison - 3/23/2006 5:27:41 PM

Three Hostages in Iraq Rescued - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2006 4:51:50 PM
- re: Three Hostages in Iraq Rescued - Laurie Street - 3/23/2006 5:09:47 PM

Why Bush doesn't use email - Jack Herer - 3/21/2006 2:54:22 PM
- But who would dare investigate a President's personal life? - Buck Galaxy - 3/22/2006 1:14:35 AM
  - hah! (n/t) - alcaray - 3/22/2006 7:13:20 PM
    - Only those who are hunting for stained blue dresses.... (n/t) - Lindy - 3/23/2006 2:27:55 AM
- You mean he can write? - R.L. - 3/21/2006 9:35:04 PM
- Cripes. Would you? Story is true, BTW - Tom Brosz - 3/21/2006 8:11:11 PM
  - Secret email from George Bush to his daughter.... - R.L. - 3/21/2006 11:16:02 PM
    - Bush daughters - Tom Brosz - 3/21/2006 11:31:45 PM
      - Sounds like they are doing more good with their lives than their incompetent father (n/t) - R.L. - 3/21/2006 11:33:58 PM
        
        Took a while for Reagan to be "rehabilitated" too. - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2006 12:11:44 AM
        
        Yeah, Bush's advocacy of ID will be viewed as genius... - R.L. - 3/22/2006 12:20:53 AM
        
        What it takes to become president... - R.L. - 3/22/2006 1:13:03 PM
        
        Twice - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2006 7:57:51 PM
        
        Again, which 2 did he have? (n/t) - R.L. - 3/22/2006 9:56:12 PM
        
        All four, actually. - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2006 12:46:49 AM
        
        LOL Even YOU don't really believe that - R.L. - 3/23/2006 2:58:58 AM
        
        I don't believe that was one of the four choices you gave me. - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2006 3:28:16 AM
        
        Choice number 2 (n/t) - R.L. - 3/23/2006 3:38:31 AM
        
        In two years... - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2006 3:44:26 AM
        
        The old "Well, yeah, but the other guy was worse" response - R.L. - 3/23/2006 3:54:30 AM
        
        So, I guess you usually vote for the worst guy? - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2006 7:28:09 AM
        
        No, but I dont mindlessly defend all the asinine actions of the 'slightly less worse' guy - R.L. - 3/23/2006 8:23:34 AM
    - Now you see why he wants to keep his emails secret (n/t) - R.L. - 3/21/2006 11:17:38 PM
  - Sort of true. Taken out of contex, and given a different setting and date. - REB - 3/21/2006 8:22:37 PM
    - "Sort of true" covers a lot of these kind of posts. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/21/2006 8:28:19 PM
      - re: "Sort of true" covers a lot of these kind of posts. - REB - 3/22/2006 2:58:28 PM
        
        It is tough, but I strive to separate what the poster says from any source material. - alcaray - 3/22/2006 7:11:49 PM
- What is your source? (n/t) - alcaray - 3/21/2006 6:50:50 PM
- I don't recall seeing any photo or video of Bush at a keyboard (n/t) - Alan G. Archer - 3/21/2006 5:19:58 PM
  - It is a phoney story. - REB - 3/21/2006 5:38:29 PM
    - Quite likely - Robert - 3/21/2006 7:44:27 PM
      - re: Quite likely - REB - 3/21/2006 7:54:44 PM
        
        "So I generally do not believe any of it until it is on the national news and verified by many sources. " - R.L. - 3/21/2006 10:33:41 PM
        
        re: "So I generally do not believe any of it until it is on the national news and verified by many sources. " - REB - 3/21/2006 10:52:23 PM
        
        But then again - Robert - 3/21/2006 8:45:49 PM
        
        Good reply. - REB - 3/21/2006 8:59:48 PM
        
        Political games - Lindy - 3/22/2006 6:31:27 PM
        
        Well yeah, but - Robert - 3/23/2006 2:50:05 AM
        
        Kumbayaa?? - Lindy - 3/23/2006 3:24:58 PM
        
        Thanks - Robert - 3/21/2006 9:07:57 PM
- Did someone ask him to disclose emails to his daughters? Or did he just go off on that? (n/t) - alcaray - 3/21/2006 5:13:29 PM

IRS proposes sale of personal tax information. - David F Mayer - 3/22/2006 9:16:44 PM
- Appalling - Robert - 3/23/2006 3:06:55 AM
  - Not a hoax, unfortunately. (n/t) - DFM - 3/23/2006 2:57:39 PM
- I'm not even American and I think that's stupid - SDF - 3/23/2006 12:42:36 AM
  - Crooks in government, as in every organization - SDF - 3/23/2006 12:48:07 AM

Another drumbeat - lotsa people with the same story. "Breaking the Silence" - Bowser - 3/23/2006 5:45:14 AM
- re: Another drumbeat - lotsa people with the same story. "Breaking the Silence" - gbaikie - 3/23/2006 9:34:27 AM

Run That By Me Again? Department. - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2006 7:38:24 AM

Corruption, corruption and more corruption. - Bowser - 3/23/2006 2:48:32 AM
- Lobbying - Tom Brosz - 3/23/2006 3:21:39 AM

Iraq and al Qaeda connection - SteveS - 3/22/2006 4:07:57 PM
- re: Iraq and al Qaeda connection - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2006 7:55:23 PM
  - Guess what? - Bowser - 3/23/2006 2:53:24 AM
  - If we have a democrat for president in 08 that will change (n/t) - SteveS - 3/23/2006 12:56:45 AM
  - Dunno about the left... - alcaray - 3/22/2006 10:07:24 PM

"The president is conducting a public relations blitz on Iraq " - Bowser - 3/23/2006 2:44:29 AM

All countries current account balances - United States (last!) - Eric - 3/22/2006 2:09:44 AM
- understanding the trade deficit - Buck Galaxy - 3/22/2006 8:03:54 AM
  - One's debt needs to be compared to one's income - alcaray - 3/22/2006 7:01:21 PM

The $200 million a day war - Donald - 3/18/2006 3:03:57 AM
- Per-square-kilometer, per-capita - Robert - 3/18/2006 4:50:36 AM
  - A trillion dollars buys a lot of altenative energy research. - podrock - 3/19/2006 6:50:46 PM
    - The heart of the matter - Robert - 3/19/2006 8:03:27 PM
      - been singing this tune since 1979 - podrock - 3/19/2006 10:39:12 PM
        
        Trillion - Tom Brosz - 3/19/2006 10:48:18 PM
        
        re: Trillion - podrock - 3/20/2006 12:50:53 AM
        
        re: Trillion - Tom Brosz - 3/20/2006 1:28:59 AM
  - Alternately, - Robert - 3/18/2006 5:15:34 AM
    - Price of freedom for an Iraqi: $40,000. - Tom Brosz - 3/18/2006 7:54:52 AM
      - So, Tom, do you believe that if and when this war is over the price tag will be LESS than a trillion? - R.L. - 3/22/2006 7:25:59 AM
        
        THIS is SO much more acceptable than a trillion, isn't it, Tom? - R.L. - 3/22/2006 8:19:22 AM
        
        worked in preview... go here... - R.L. - 3/22/2006 8:20:42 AM
      - re: Price of freedom for an Iraqi: $40,000. - Robert - 3/18/2006 6:32:30 PM
        
        re: Price of freedom for an Iraqi: $40,000. - gbaikie - 3/19/2006 1:46:57 AM
        
        Doubt you could buy Saddam - SteveS - 3/19/2006 12:35:37 AM
        
        re: Price of freedom for an Iraqi: $40,000. - Tom Brosz - 3/18/2006 7:17:22 PM
        
        You quote 30 to 1 losses for Iraqis then vs. now. - alcaray - 3/20/2006 5:33:28 PM
        
        re: 30 to 1 losses for Iraqis then vs. now. - Tom Brosz - 3/20/2006 8:36:13 PM
        
        dunno about "much larger" - alcaray - 3/20/2006 10:46:13 PM
        
        re: dunno about "much larger" - REB - 3/22/2006 3:10:17 PM
      - Cost of Death to Loved Ones = Priceless (n/t) - Lindy - 3/18/2006 4:30:05 PM
- Leftist economics is so one-sided. - SDAI-Tech1 - 3/18/2006 3:27:20 AM
  - What planet are you posting from? - Robert - 3/18/2006 5:00:32 AM
    - Cute. - Tom Brosz - 3/18/2006 7:50:32 AM
      - Ahh, you too, Tom, in a strictly manly way of course - Robert - 3/18/2006 6:43:21 PM
        
        You see my problem? - Tom Brosz - 3/18/2006 7:04:20 PM
    - Tom Tomorrow finally admits the truth. - SDAI-Tech1 - 3/18/2006 5:58:49 AM
      - Sorry about that - Robert - 3/18/2006 6:46:53 PM
        
        By now... - SDAI-Tech1 - 3/18/2006 11:27:26 PM
  - Does the US economy need war? (n/t) - Laurie Street - 3/18/2006 4:20:44 AM
    - The war is over. - SDAI-Tech1 - 3/18/2006 4:50:28 AM
      - Please let the administration know that the war is over. (n/t) - alcaray - 3/20/2006 6:01:20 PM
      - Excuse me but... - Donald - 3/18/2006 4:52:06 PM
      - Oh please..... - Lindy - 3/18/2006 4:37:06 PM
      - re: Really? - Raoul - 3/18/2006 9:36:53 AM
        
        THINK carefully... - SDAI-Tech1 - 3/21/2006 12:12:41 AM
        
        How could you forget omniscient? - Concerned Megalomerican - 3/21/2006 2:28:28 AM
        
        Speaking the unspoken truth... - SDAI-Tech1 - 3/21/2006 3:26:30 AM
        
        The definition of "quagmire" - Robert - 3/21/2006 7:57:31 PM
        
        re: The definition of "quagmire" - SDAI-Tech1 - 3/21/2006 10:52:11 PM
  - DID HE LIE? - R.L. - 3/18/2006 3:40:51 AM
    - Whom? The "MSNBC economic correspondent" or Don? - SDAI-Tech1 - 3/18/2006 5:48:25 AM

15 killed in Afghanistan - Lee - 3/22/2006 7:56:22 AM
- I read a news item about a local homicide recently - SDF - 3/22/2006 11:52:53 AM
  - You're right of course. The information about the number of insurgent deaths among the total should be included in the articles (n/t) - SDF - 3/22/2006 11:59:47 AM

This is what yer voting for when you vote for war. - Bowser - 3/21/2006 5:58:00 AM
- Of course, Bowser instantly believes this. - Tom Brosz - 3/21/2006 8:17:46 PM
  - re: Of course, Bowser instantly believes this. - Doug Ellison - 3/22/2006 10:33:41 AM
  - While unusual for the NYT, the DoD usually, if not always, lies. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/22/2006 1:27:08 AM
  - Of course such atrocities have never, ever happened before... - Laurie Street - 3/21/2006 9:42:20 PM
  - re: Of course, Bowser instantly believes this. - REB - 3/21/2006 8:26:02 PM
- Disgusting, I wonder if they're proud Americans - Lindy - 3/21/2006 3:41:45 PM

It's not even Christmas, and here's the Little Drummer Boy - Bowser - 3/21/2006 12:39:21 AM
- (So who's the rogue nation? Ain't Iran.) - SteveS - 3/21/2006 2:45:54 PM
- Is there a valid reason you refuse to mention Iran's recent threats to Israel's existence? - Buck Galaxy - 3/21/2006 6:44:53 AM
  - What part of "no nation with nukes has been attacked" is difficult? - Bowser - 3/21/2006 4:45:53 PM
    - Are you feeling okay Bows? - Buck Galaxy - 3/22/2006 6:15:19 AM

Something is seriously wrong - gbaikie - 3/19/2006 5:31:09 AM
- Hey, they had really good reasons for not showing up. - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2006 5:51:26 AM
- Do you think people are smart, or stupid, not to protest? (n/t) - alcaray - 3/20/2006 6:13:14 PM
  - re: Do you think people are smart, or stupid, not to protest? - gbaikie - 3/21/2006 5:22:08 AM
    - You seem upset when people protest. You seem upset when they don't. (n/t) - alcaray - 3/21/2006 5:16:03 PM
- Anti-war protests should be staged during the week. - Scott Evil - 3/19/2006 10:37:19 PM

The Last Communist Bastion In Europe Falters - David F Mayer - 3/21/2006 1:24:54 PM
- A very good website for tracking stuff like this... - Tom Brosz - 3/22/2006 2:04:56 AM

N.Y. Times caught in another mistake - Tom Brosz - 3/19/2006 12:27:50 AM
- N.Y. Times target of fraud; admits it - Robert - 3/20/2006 3:42:13 PM
  - Tell ya what... - Tom Brosz - 3/20/2006 8:44:03 PM
    - All of Judith Miller's pre-war stories. Next. (n/t) - Tony - 3/21/2006 9:37:06 PM
    - Operation Swarmer coverage (n/t) - alcaray - 3/20/2006 9:49:37 PM
      - Yeah, that was really pro-war, wasn't it? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/21/2006 5:08:57 AM
        
        Yes, they faithfully reported what they were told to report. - alcaray - 3/21/2006 5:20:47 PM
    - I can do better than that - Robert - 3/20/2006 9:01:50 PM
      - re: I can do better than that - gbaikie - 3/20/2006 9:20:49 PM
        
        re: I can do better than that - Robert - 3/20/2006 11:20:56 PM
        
        re: I can do better than that - gbaikie - 3/21/2006 5:26:04 AM
  - Speaking of the Nitpicking Squad... - ljk - 3/20/2006 8:02:56 PM
- Everybody makes mistakes. However, the NYT has NEVER admitted THIS ONE. - David F Mayer - 3/19/2006 4:35:41 AM
  - The NYT does not have the prize in their possession - Alan G. Archer - 3/19/2006 5:12:45 AM
    - The NYT should admit that Duranty was on Stalin's payroll - David F Mayer - 3/19/2006 5:22:19 AM
      - Stalin's payroll - Alan G. Archer - 3/19/2006 1:00:48 PM
        
        See this book - David F Mayer - 3/19/2006 5:37:23 PM
        
        Very flat and thin book (n/t) - alcaray - 3/20/2006 4:31:09 PM
        
        Whoops.Me bad. Sorry Here is another try. - DFM - 3/20/2006 5:48:36 PM
        
        Thanks, David (n/t) - Alan G. Archer - 3/21/2006 12:39:08 AM
        
        Indeed, flatter than a graphic novel (n/t) - Alan G. Archer - 3/20/2006 5:11:04 PM

CIA knew there were no WMDs, and FBI could have prevented WTC, easily. On GWB's watch. - Bowser - 3/21/2006 12:31:24 AM
- Killers of the 20th Century - Eric - 3/21/2006 4:53:42 AM
  - re: Killers of the 20th Century - Buck Galaxy - 3/21/2006 6:26:11 AM

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