Ummm so....Republican Hagel is one of 'those people'?

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Ummm so....Republican Hagel is one of 'those people'?

R.L. — 11/27/2006 8:09:39 AM (archived)

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/26/hagel.iraq/index.html

"Militaries are built to fight and win wars, not bind together failing nations. We are once again learning a very hard lesson in foreign affairs: America cannot impose a democracy on any nation -- regardless of our noble purpose."

By the way, what happened to Bush's campaigning against 'nation building'?

Sorry, Tom, even your own side is deserting... when will you acknowledge the disaster?

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Hey, whatever happened to all those 'good news from Iraq' posts? - R.L. - 11/27/2006 2:35:47 AM
- Don't look at me - FrankC - 11/28/2006 8:02:27 PM
  - re: The dems are in control now - Yeti - 11/28/2006 8:05:10 PM
    - Oh bother that, perception is what counts - FrankC - 11/28/2006 11:33:44 PM
      - Knd of like the perception that Iraq had somehting to do with 911? (n/t) - Yeti - 11/29/2006 6:40:24 PM
        
        pretty much (n/t) - FrankC - 12/1/2006 4:45:39 AM
- re: The situation has degenerated. The Democrats called it. They were brilliant prognosticators. - Scott Evil - 11/27/2006 2:44:30 PM
- re: 'good news from Iraq' posts - TB - 11/27/2006 4:35:07 AM
  - Your good news was welcome but you never acknowledged the bad. - azstrummer - 11/27/2006 11:05:07 PM
  - Is it your contention that the good news is more newsworthy than the obvious carnage? - R.L. - 11/27/2006 4:42:28 AM
    - I would have settled for "as newsworthy." - TB - 11/27/2006 5:07:50 AM
      - Only hear what you want to hear and disregard the rest, hmm-hmm-mmmm - Tony - 11/27/2006 4:49:41 PM
        
        Wearing your boxers again? (n/t) - Fox - 11/30/2006 7:34:25 PM
        
        Nah. Lost them in a clearing somewhere. (n/t) - Tony - 11/30/2006 9:19:38 PM
        
        And Average Google Time Is? - ID - 11/29/2006 11:37:41 PM
        
        Waht part of "good news is spiked" didn't you get? (n/t) - PPD - 11/30/2006 5:49:20 PM
        
        Are You Really That Simple Minded? - ID - 12/1/2006 4:31:49 AM
        
        Good grief - PPD - 12/1/2006 3:25:13 PM
        
        False Pretext Strawman Uncovered Again - ID - 12/1/2006 5:11:55 PM
        
        Actually It Was A Split Hair - ID - 12/1/2006 5:14:10 PM
        
        Here ya go - Tony - 12/1/2006 6:56:43 PM
        
        OK Tom is guilty of exageration from time to time. - ID - 12/1/2006 8:59:59 PM
        
        Hehehehe. (n/t) - Yeti - 11/29/2006 6:18:17 PM
      - re:"I picked a side I really wanted to win. Others did too, from the very start." - Yeti - 11/27/2006 6:01:40 AM
        
        "Ohhh.... Puuuuhhhhleaase!" "Yeah, Right!" "What BS" - TB - 11/27/2006 6:09:35 AM
        
        Why should I grace that crud with an 'eloquent counterargument'? - Yeti - 11/27/2006 6:32:23 AM
        
        "Left-leaning Americans" - TB - 11/27/2006 6:41:46 AM
        
        re: "Left-leaning Americans" - Un-Cute Yeti - 11/28/2006 7:18:14 PM
        
        re: "Left-leaning Americans" - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/29/2006 3:19:47 AM
        
        re: "same leftist PR rhetoric we keep hearing from the MSM" - Bored Yeti - 11/29/2006 3:35:48 AM
        
        And ... - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/29/2006 4:36:44 AM
        
        Wow. So that's tryptophan withdrawal. - TB - 11/29/2006 12:16:56 AM
        
        tryptophan withdrawal? Now who is indulging in 'cuteness'? - Yeti - 11/29/2006 5:42:46 PM
        
        Wow, someone woke up - azstrummer - 11/28/2006 10:55:47 PM
        
        re: Wow, someone woke up - Yetster - 11/29/2006 5:54:07 PM
        
        Sparring - azstrummer - 11/29/2006 6:25:21 PM
        
        Your Fixation on Tom Is Ridiculous - ID - 12/1/2006 4:08:43 AM
        
        "protected status" - TB - 11/29/2006 7:41:28 PM
        
        I disagree, that wasn't a flame, and Brosz did demand I 'stop acting cute' - Yeti - 11/29/2006 3:31:25 AM
        
        I'm okay with it staying here. - TB - 11/29/2006 6:57:09 AM
        
        re: Wow, someone woke up - Robert - 11/29/2006 12:28:16 AM
        
        re: "Left-leaning Americans" - Larry Summers - 11/28/2006 9:30:58 PM
        
        So Rush is looking for new work? - azstrummer - 11/28/2006 10:57:26 PM
        
        Tom is right about one thing - Tony - 11/28/2006 8:45:28 PM
        
        Good points, BTW, and well put - Yeti Wielding Yeti Stick of Unreason - 11/29/2006 6:17:32 PM
        
        Well Thank Gr#@$%$k for that!. ;-) thanks. Nice Howitzer you placed up there... (n/t) - Tony - 11/29/2006 7:25:29 PM
        
        I am gonna find a bomb shelter- - R.L. - 11/28/2006 7:45:56 PM
        
        What can I say: I woke up on the wrong side of my Ice Cave this morning - Yeti - 11/28/2006 8:10:53 PM
        
        Yowzah! (n/t) - Robert - 11/28/2006 8:07:10 PM
        
        Ummm so....Republican Hagel is one of 'those people'? - R.L. - 11/27/2006 8:09:39 AM
      - Yeah right - R.L. - 11/27/2006 5:33:43 AM
        
        re: Yeah right - TB - 11/27/2006 6:06:05 AM
        
        re: Yeah right - TB - 11/28/2006 4:17:11 AM
        
        Here it is, distilled down: - TB - 11/28/2006 4:44:12 AM
        
        so hundreds havent been found tortured and killed? (n/t) - R.L. - 11/28/2006 4:48:59 AM
        
        That's an excellent question. - TB - 11/28/2006 5:11:29 AM
        
        Hariyau contraire - Tony - 11/27/2006 5:11:28 PM
- Anyone want to bet that within 2 months the right will be blaming our failure in Iraq on the liberals? - R.L. - 11/27/2006 4:09:34 AM
  - Watch TV - Yeti - 11/28/2006 7:21:37 PM
  - Really its not a failure... - Scott Evil - 11/27/2006 2:49:03 PM
  - They started blaming the left way before the election. - ER - 11/27/2006 12:13:51 PM
  - A lot of that blame will have been honestly earned. - TB - 11/27/2006 4:41:37 AM
    - Superstition I - Robert - 11/29/2006 5:54:36 PM
      - Hey- you have to pay a licensing fee if you want to bang on tom with the superstition Bat - Yeti - 11/29/2006 6:06:38 PM
        
        But then, we'd owe TB royalties for the technique of constant repetition (n/t) - Robert - 11/29/2006 8:23:48 PM
        
        No, no, no... You have it all wrong - IP YetiLawyer - 11/29/2006 8:46:20 PM
        
        re: prior 'art' - Yeti wielding the Yeti Stick of Unreason - 11/29/2006 6:15:39 PM
        
        I feel rather current actually - azstrummer - 11/29/2006 8:29:24 PM
    - Okay, lets assume your bullshit here smells like a rose - Bluff-Calling Yeti - 11/28/2006 7:27:49 PM
      - Effect on the war - TB - 11/29/2006 12:24:29 AM
        
        Hold on a second - Yeti - 11/29/2006 3:41:17 AM
        
        re: Hold on a second - TB - 11/29/2006 7:15:21 AM
        
        Don't Ask A Yeti To Follow Simple Reason - ID - 11/29/2006 11:45:06 PM
        
        Superstition II - Robert - 11/29/2006 5:54:51 PM
        
        Holy Straw Cow - ID - 11/30/2006 12:48:19 AM
        
        Superstition III - Robert - 11/29/2006 8:33:11 PM
        
        Are You Serious? - ID - 11/30/2006 1:06:18 AM
        
        You're not - Robert - 11/30/2006 5:45:05 PM
        
        Oh Yes I Am, You're Just Not Being Honest - ID - 12/1/2006 3:28:43 AM
        
        "cut-and-run" is nothing BUT jingoism - Robert - 12/1/2006 6:45:51 PM
        
        You're Going Off The Deep End Robert (Lord Of The Flies) - ID - 12/1/2006 10:46:55 PM
        
        You know you're a Winger when... - Robert - 12/2/2006 5:17:07 PM
        
        You Just Can't Face Your Own Faults Can You? - Mark Eby - 12/4/2006 4:13:56 AM
        
        As You said: Yowzah! - Yeti - 11/30/2006 7:01:21 PM
        
        frustration - Robert - 11/30/2006 9:18:49 PM
        
        I think you are wrong on one count, unfortunately - Yetster. - 12/1/2006 11:21:23 PM
        
        You may be right - Robert - 12/2/2006 5:34:06 PM
        
        Circle Jerk Indeed - ID - 12/4/2006 3:02:06 PM
        
        So Now You Want To Think? - ID - 12/1/2006 3:36:47 AM
        
        You might want to substitute reasoning for thinking. My dog thinks. - azstrummer - 12/1/2006 3:45:41 AM
        
        Read His Post Dittohead - ID - 12/1/2006 3:59:04 AM
        
        "Party of cut and run?" Maybe not. - TB - 11/30/2006 1:58:00 AM
        
        Tried To Be Careful - ID - 11/30/2006 2:31:28 AM
        
        So Mr. Armchair Warrior..... - azstrummer - 12/1/2006 3:39:29 AM
        
        Try Paying Attention Some Time - ID - 12/1/2006 4:22:16 AM
        
        re: Try Paying Attention Some Time - azstrummer - 12/1/2006 1:52:39 PM
        
        re: Try Paying Attention Some Time - ID - 12/1/2006 2:29:39 PM
        
        Ok, I'm willing to regroup here - azstrummer - 12/1/2006 9:52:34 PM
        
        On Tom - ID - 12/1/2006 11:18:15 PM
        
        Reasonable But I Disagree - ID - 12/1/2006 11:00:37 PM
        
        That puts you a lot closer to most Dems than it does to the admin - PPD - 11/30/2006 9:13:15 PM
        
        Uh Duh - ID - 12/1/2006 3:15:33 AM
        
        Glad to see that the bleeding obvious is finally getting through. - PPD - 12/1/2006 3:16:08 PM
        
        Neither - ID - 12/1/2006 4:42:27 PM
        
        I agree with just about everything you wrote - PPD - 12/1/2006 6:17:15 PM
        
        Perhaps You Can Explain To Robert Then - ID - 12/4/2006 3:03:50 PM
        
        Touche - ID - 12/1/2006 10:53:49 PM
        
        What planet do you live on? - Yeti - 11/29/2006 5:31:48 PM
        
        Outcomes - TB - 11/29/2006 7:03:47 PM
        
        specifics schmecifics - Tony - 11/29/2006 7:34:57 PM
        
        re: specifics - TB - 11/29/2006 7:59:14 PM
        
        Still didnt register huh? - Tony - 11/29/2006 10:17:02 PM
        
        How MANY times must I explain it? - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/30/2006 12:28:58 AM
        
        As many times as we roll our eyes and ignore you. - Yeti - 11/30/2006 1:06:06 AM
        
        Let me guess you smoke heavily, drink heavily, use pharmeceuticals and want the US out of Iraq? - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/30/2006 1:21:13 AM
        
        Batting 500 if it was for me :-D (n/t) - Tony - 12/1/2006 3:26:40 PM
        
        Wrong on every count! - Yeti - 11/30/2006 1:38:13 AM
        
        I apologize. - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/30/2006 1:52:34 AM
        
        re: I apologize. - Yeti - 11/30/2006 3:36:27 AM
        
        I thought the topic was Iraq. - Mary Anne - 11/29/2006 1:18:25 PM
    - What BS - R.L. - 11/27/2006 4:43:52 AM
      - re: What BS - gbaikie - 11/28/2006 5:00:18 AM

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