Not sure where you're drawing the line between freedom and socialism

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Not sure where you're drawing the line between freedom and socialism

DJL — 1/10/2008 7:32:29 PM (archived)

So what you are saying that having the option to be cared for free by a social system or choosing to be cared for by a private sector is not freedom?

explain freedom in our current system where you have no choices possible besides paying with a CC or getting billed for it.

Daren

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"The PreElection Paradox" - TB - 1/7/2008 1:13:51 AM
- He makes good points - azstrummer - 1/7/2008 6:35:59 PM
  - " to dismiss people's concerns about the future when you live in one of the better neighborhoods in your town seems a bit holier-than-thou" - Lindy - 1/7/2008 11:56:51 PM
    - Duh! - Eri - 1/12/2008 8:48:43 PM
  - re: He makes good points - TB - 1/7/2008 7:07:01 PM
    - Flawed poll - azstrummer - 1/9/2008 5:30:34 PM
      - Tom's "Libertarian compassionless drivel " - Lindy - 1/11/2008 5:24:28 PM
      - And there we have it again. - TB - 1/9/2008 7:27:53 PM
        
        "This "crisis" is largely being engineered." - Lndy - 1/11/2008 5:33:02 PM
        
        Statistics - TB - 1/11/2008 8:20:41 PM
        
        And while you're playing your little number game... - Eri - 1/12/2008 9:03:26 PM
        
        The word "crisis" has an exact meaning. - TB - 1/12/2008 9:32:22 PM
        
        So quit your gritching about people trying to fix what's broken - Eri - 1/13/2008 12:22:11 AM
        
        They AREN'T trying to fix what's broken. - TB - 1/13/2008 12:51:58 AM
        
        You cannot tell someone they are wrong when they see with their own eyes! - Eri - 1/13/2008 12:58:13 AM
        
        I give up. (n/t) - TB - 1/13/2008 1:05:28 AM
        
        :-) (n/t) - Eri - 1/13/2008 4:07:56 AM
        
        This "crisis" is largely being engineered - DJL - 1/9/2008 9:31:16 PM
    - over three-quarters of Americans are satisfied with their health care. I have seen numbers as high as 90 percent - Ranting DJL - 1/7/2008 9:01:11 PM
      - Sorry... - TB - 1/7/2008 9:53:56 PM
        
        out my behind - DJL - 1/8/2008 7:52:18 AM
        
        Medical care - TB - 1/8/2008 9:30:32 PM
        
        Once again - Tony - 1/9/2008 6:11:32 PM
        
        One of the most compelling scenes in Sicko - azstrummer - 1/9/2008 6:52:47 PM
        
        But Michael Moore would have no such problem having a garage full of cars for himself. - Lee - 1/13/2008 7:03:58 AM
        
        Medicare and Medicaid - azstrummer - 1/9/2008 3:35:04 PM
        
        re: Medicare and Medicaid - TB - 1/9/2008 7:59:21 PM
        
        there will be no need to try and figure out if an expense is legitimate or not? - DJL - 1/9/2008 9:19:48 PM
        
        Of course there will. That was the point. - TB - 1/9/2008 9:36:25 PM
        
        you missed MY point - DJL - 1/9/2008 9:45:10 PM
        
        re: you missed MY point - TB - 1/10/2008 12:41:25 AM
        
        Calling the shots - azstrummer - 1/10/2008 3:04:54 AM
        
        re: Calling the shots - TB - 1/10/2008 4:33:46 AM
        
        "The rest of your post is just outraged gibbering." - azstrummer - 1/10/2008 5:20:41 AM
        
        Boiling frog - TB - 1/10/2008 7:01:46 AM
        
        Caring - azstrummer - 1/10/2008 3:14:41 PM
        
        Socialism and business - TB - 1/10/2008 6:52:23 PM
        
        re: Socialism and business - azstrummer - 1/10/2008 7:35:23 PM
        
        I have my own private health insurance. - Lee - 1/14/2008 1:56:37 AM
        
        Not sure where you're drawing the line between freedom and socialism - DJL - 1/10/2008 7:32:29 PM
        
        It's not "FREE". - Lee - 1/14/2008 2:15:16 AM
        
        particularly in R & D, are subsidized by the private health care infrastructure in the U.S. - DJL - 1/9/2008 3:16:43 AM
        
        Medical patents - TB - 1/9/2008 5:32:25 AM
        
        these stats - DJL - 1/9/2008 4:53:32 PM
        
        Very good point. - TB - 1/9/2008 8:12:08 PM
        
        You're fighting a losing battle - azstrummer - 1/9/2008 5:14:44 PM
        
        A conservative is somebody who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing - Robert - 1/9/2008 6:47:09 PM
        
        Let's try not to whitewash the main point... - TB - 1/9/2008 7:42:54 PM
        
        TB, TB, TB... - Robert - 1/10/2008 7:20:48 PM
        
        Robert - TB - 1/10/2008 7:39:03 PM
        
        lololol - azstrummer - 1/10/2008 8:08:41 PM
        
        Politicians where I live - TB - 1/12/2008 5:17:28 AM
        
        Oh what a crock - azstrummer - 1/9/2008 9:26:23 PM
        
        " could show you the numbers" - tony - 1/9/2008 9:11:15 PM
        
        "The Numbers" - SDAI-Tech1 - 1/10/2008 6:33:00 PM
        
        I didn't realize that we all would be sick... (n/t) - DJL - 1/10/2008 7:34:55 PM
        
        Let me tell you a true story... - SDAI-Tech1 - 1/10/2008 7:56:43 PM
        
        Have you and Tom considered forming a comedy team - azstrummer - 1/10/2008 8:15:36 PM
        
        LOL! - SDAI-Tech1 - 1/10/2008 8:28:44 PM
        
        My numbers - TB - 1/10/2008 7:06:57 PM
        
        The numbers... - SDAI-Tech1 - 1/10/2008 8:16:00 PM
        
        Assuming your numbers are true - azstrummer - 1/10/2008 7:58:19 PM
        
        wrong assumtions - DJL - 1/10/2008 7:38:10 PM
        
        Clarification... - TB - 1/10/2008 7:57:12 PM
        
        Keep in mind... - TB - 1/10/2008 7:10:13 PM
        
        "The Numbers"...pulled directly from your... - Robert - 1/10/2008 7:06:53 PM
        
        Again... - SDAI-Tech1 - 1/10/2008 7:42:28 PM
        
        wait a second - DJL - 1/11/2008 7:07:08 PM
        
        nevermind - DJL - 1/11/2008 7:09:08 PM
        
        ;-) - SDAI-Tech1 - 1/12/2008 12:30:37 AM
        
        I try to stick with "hat." It ain't always easy. (n/t) - TB - 1/10/2008 7:08:32 PM
        
        What do you think of SDAI-Tech1's conclusion? - Robert - 1/10/2008 7:30:37 PM
        
        re: What do you think of SDAI-Tech1's conclusion? - SDAI-Tech1 - 1/10/2008 8:55:19 PM
        
        Ah. Are you asking me what would WORK? - TB - 1/10/2008 8:25:56 PM
        
        Actually, no - Robert - 1/10/2008 9:17:11 PM
        
        Okay, let's deal with the other question. Excuse another rant. - TB - 1/10/2008 9:45:49 PM
        
        re: "The Numbers" - REB - 1/10/2008 6:53:07 PM
        
        Yes, it's true... - SDAI-Tech1 - 1/10/2008 7:26:17 PM
        
        "Some say I have a big behind".... - Lindy - 1/8/2008 5:09:13 PM
        
        Well, well, DJL is - Jody - 1/8/2008 5:49:15 PM
        
        Humph - Eri - 1/8/2008 4:27:35 AM
        
        Definition of "caring." - TB - 1/8/2008 10:57:37 PM
        
        Too many Americans are becoming the stereotypical 35 year old still living at home. - Lee - 1/14/2008 3:05:03 AM
        
        I am in agreement, Lee. - Jody - 1/14/2008 2:53:25 PM

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