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They say hindsight is perfect - E.P. - 7/3/2008 10:07:20 PM

AquaVentus: Humidity's Silver Lining - Jody - 7/2/2008 3:43:40 AM
- How many applications can there be where water is more expensive than electricity? (n/t) - ER - 7/2/2008 12:49:13 PM
  - You'd be surprised. - Paul Atreides - 7/2/2008 6:49:29 PM
    - It wouldn't surprise me - Leto II - 7/2/2008 9:18:56 PM
      - Ah yes, the worm turns. (n/t) - ER - 7/2/2008 10:17:49 PM
    - In this crowd, a Dune allusion was inevitable. (n/t) - Baron Harkonnen - 7/2/2008 8:31:11 PM
      - Must be all the dry wit. (n/t) - TB - 7/2/2008 9:18:35 PM
        
        Tell me of your homeworld, Useless (n/t) - Chani - 7/3/2008 4:27:31 PM
        
        Does it have oil? (n/t) - Cheney - 7/3/2008 5:28:23 PM
        
        The oil must flow! (n/t) - CHOAM-Mobil - 7/3/2008 7:19:56 PM
        
        Are you trying to spice things up? (n/t) - ER - 7/2/2008 10:17:02 PM
        
        The HZ needs some *Pepp* ER. (n/t) - Jody - 7/3/2008 1:32:56 PM
        
        No pepper, but he is salty. (n/t) - Jazzica and the Revevd-up Mothers - 7/3/2008 5:30:04 PM
        
        Now, Drunken Omaha IS peppy. (n/t) - Dr Wellington Oyeah - 7/3/2008 5:33:25 PM

"U.S. officials condoned Kurdish oil deal. Contract contradicted Bush administration's public stance." - Bowser - 7/3/2008 5:15:07 PM
- The details - TB - 7/3/2008 6:16:42 PM
  - It smelled then, and it stinks now. - Bowser - 7/3/2008 6:21:25 PM

Stay out of Texas if your pc needs work - Jack Herer - 7/2/2008 12:11:46 PM
- re: Stay out of Texas if your pc needs work - Jack Herer - 7/3/2008 2:32:37 PM
- It's either child porn or software theft related... - nick hoffman - 7/2/2008 2:53:45 PM
  - Undoubtedly to prevent prying into HDs by ex-wives, tabloids, etc. (n/t) - Bowser - 7/2/2008 10:55:54 PM
- I've already mapped this terrain in great detail. - ER - 7/2/2008 1:49:23 PM
  - This isn't unusual. - TB - 7/2/2008 4:43:30 PM
    - A conspiracy of cartographers - ER - 7/2/2008 6:02:10 PM
      - Government - TB - 7/2/2008 6:08:26 PM
        
        I, Frankenstein - ER - 7/2/2008 11:59:19 PM
        
        "the first half of this century" - ER - 7/3/2008 12:04:07 AM
        
        re: "the first half of this century" - TB - 7/3/2008 4:00:58 AM
      - re: A conspiracy of cartographers - Andrew - 7/2/2008 6:08:05 PM
        
        re: A conspiracy of cartographers - TB - 7/2/2008 6:35:08 PM
        
        re: A conspiracy of cartographers - Andrew - 7/2/2008 6:55:07 PM

Oh Dear lord - Tony - 7/3/2008 11:12:55 AM

American Family Association sends homosexual to olympics - ARRELL - 7/2/2008 6:11:16 PM
- Greg Louganis won 4 Gold medals in the Olympics - z - 7/3/2008 1:01:18 AM
  - I'm not sure anyone knew it at the time, however. (n/t) - Bowser - 7/3/2008 2:39:36 AM
- re: American Family Association - TB - 7/2/2008 6:36:42 PM

WTC BEHIND Schedule, Wayyy Over BUDGET - carl - 7/2/2008 3:06:08 PM

Update: Pakistan's peace negotiations with the Taliban - TB - 6/27/2008 8:14:24 PM
- "Pakistan launches anti-Taliban offensive" - Bowser - 6/28/2008 2:52:34 PM
- "U.S. says Taliban attacks may rise this year" - Bowser - 6/28/2008 4:31:33 AM
  - re: "U.S. says Taliban attacks may rise this year" - Hans - 6/28/2008 4:38:48 AM
    - Winning strategy. - Bowser - 6/28/2008 5:34:15 AM
      - re: Winning strategy. - Hans - 6/28/2008 8:43:20 PM
        
        Re Israel. - Bowser - 6/28/2008 11:47:11 PM
        
        re: Re Israel. - Hans - 6/29/2008 5:12:22 AM
        
        Solution remains the same? - E.P. - 6/30/2008 11:58:29 PM
        
        Something better to offer than U.N. troops - TB - 7/1/2008 2:07:52 AM
      - Amazing. - TB - 6/28/2008 7:00:39 PM
        
        re: Amazing. - Hans - 6/28/2008 8:37:00 PM
        
        Fer crissake. There's a difference between killing badguys and slaughtering villages. - Bowser - 6/28/2008 9:29:00 PM
        
        re: Fer crissake. There's a difference between killing badguys and slaughtering villages. - Hans - 6/28/2008 11:36:34 PM
      - PS. What's yours. The current "strategy" isn't working. (n/t) - Bowser - 6/28/2008 5:35:13 AM
- Pakistan intelligence abetting Taliban militants: US think-tank - Bowser - 6/28/2008 12:42:58 AM
  - Rumor has it..... - Lindy - 6/28/2008 5:33:04 PM
  - "Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate have provided direct assistance to such groups as the Taliban " - Lindy - 6/28/2008 5:30:42 PM
  - Pakistani Oil production - Hans - 6/28/2008 4:33:48 AM
    - That's about what the state of Colorado produces. - TB - 6/28/2008 7:15:28 PM
      - Whoops. Flubbed the math. Make that about 8 percent of the ANWR production. (n/t) - TB - 6/28/2008 7:17:34 PM
        
        What 'Math', in what Fantasy World? - Yeti - 6/29/2008 5:02:05 PM
        
        It's simple. - Lee - 7/2/2008 1:44:45 AM
        
        By the same idiot "logic" - TB - 6/30/2008 12:51:13 AM
        
        Idiot Logic? This from the manchild who wants to argue not what I said, but about what my supposed 'side' does and says. - Yeti - 6/30/2008 5:49:25 AM
        
        Idiot Logic - TB - 6/30/2008 6:24:43 AM
        
        Okay, I win by default - Yeti - 6/30/2008 2:32:40 PM
        
        Check again. I won this "argument" four posts ago. - TB - 6/30/2008 5:13:33 PM
        
        Ah, how clever and how unexpected. You had an argument with a straw man and won. - Yeti - 6/30/2008 7:25:20 PM
        
        re: - TB - 6/30/2008 8:41:49 PM
        
        That report is but one of many, and all of them vary wildly. - Yeti - 6/30/2008 9:55:24 PM
        
        A bit more on delayed gratification dysfunction - TB - 6/30/2008 1:39:44 AM
        
        Okay, lets do what I used to do with students when they were too dense. - Yeti - 6/30/2008 5:56:33 AM
        
        re: Whoops. Flubbed the math. Make that about 8 percent of the ANWR production. - Hans - 6/28/2008 8:46:49 PM
    - correction 159.400 (n/t) - Hans - 6/28/2008 4:36:38 AM

"Walking the cat back" on Iraq - TB - 7/1/2008 2:03:50 AM
- Actual withdrawal v. Talking "withdrawal" and staying forever. - Bowser - 7/1/2008 10:28:08 PM
- Maybe it just shows Dems are capable of changing their minds when faced with new conditions. - ER - 7/1/2008 3:08:10 PM
  - LOL! - TB - 7/1/2008 3:39:54 PM
    - Not only do they have the brazen casters to try it, - ER - 7/1/2008 5:19:22 PM
      - No doubt. - TB - 7/1/2008 5:39:18 PM
        
        re-writing - McFly - 7/2/2008 1:37:07 AM
        
        Plenty of doubt. - ER - 7/1/2008 5:54:08 PM
        
        re: Plenty of doubt. - TB - 7/1/2008 7:35:04 PM
        
        Orwell was a socialist. - ER - 7/1/2008 8:47:25 PM
        
        The winners write the histories. - ER - 7/1/2008 6:08:38 PM

This just in!!! Hillary Clinton has accepted the VP nomination!!!!! - Jody - 6/30/2008 3:58:27 PM
- Hopefully not a joke, just premature... - z - 6/30/2008 9:08:13 PM
  - I agree!!...and thank you z!! (n/t) - Jody - 7/1/2008 1:42:48 PM
- Bad Jody! Bad Jody! - Eri - 6/30/2008 5:06:50 PM
  - LOL....I thought I would pull a TAFKASE - Jody - 6/30/2008 8:59:02 PM

When do WE Price Basic Commodities outa Reach? - carl - 6/30/2008 10:37:27 PM
- re: When do WE Price Basic Commodities outa Reach? - ER - 7/1/2008 1:25:33 AM

That New York Times article - TB - 6/30/2008 6:53:25 AM
- The New York Times likes it when American soldiers die. - Lee - 6/30/2008 7:38:10 PM
  - No more than the McCain campaign. (n/t) - alcaray - 6/30/2008 8:11:04 PM
  - I really don't think you belong on these boards, or with us. - Bowser - 6/30/2008 8:06:18 PM
    - You seem to share their point of view as well. - Lee - 6/30/2008 10:27:52 PM
- re: That New York Times article - Algorithms - 6/30/2008 1:45:25 PM
- re: That New York Times article - ER - 6/30/2008 1:00:22 PM

"Report: U.S. escalating covert ops against Iran", and complaining about Iran in Iraq. - Bowser - 6/29/2008 5:51:48 PM
- Hersh again. - TB - 6/30/2008 12:27:15 AM
  - 6 years too late to get serious about OBL. You should be furious too. (n/t) - alcaray - 6/30/2008 5:42:52 PM
    - TB, like the rest of his herd of 'independent free thinkers', will become furious about the state of the nation on Jan 20 2009 - Yeti - 6/30/2008 7:51:51 PM
  - An exercise - TB - 6/30/2008 1:17:52 AM
  - Old News: "SOURCES: BUSH ANGER AT COMING NEW YORK TIMES STORY DETAILING HUNT FOR BIN LADEN" - Lindy - 6/30/2008 12:52:18 AM
  - No one says they will do it selectively. - Bowser - 6/30/2008 12:50:35 AM
    - How would you do it "selectively" Bowser? - TB - 6/30/2008 1:03:14 AM
      - Being unselective has not gotten OBL, in part because of the enemies we've made. - Bowser - 6/30/2008 1:10:03 AM
- BTW, TB, this is getting close to an attack. (n/t) - Bowser - 6/29/2008 7:19:30 PM
  - DICK Cheney agrees - Buck Galaxy - 6/29/2008 10:05:17 PM
    - TB and I have $50 riding on either an attack or not. To be paid to HZ. - Bowser - 6/30/2008 12:53:37 AM
      - $400 million? - Lindy - 6/30/2008 3:23:45 AM
        
        That's $400 million for covert action against the Mullahs. - Lee - 6/30/2008 4:06:38 AM
- Payback's a brown eyed virgin. - Lee - 6/29/2008 6:41:31 PM

OPEC - "The rising cost of crude is not linked to supply, Khelil said today." - Bowser - 6/28/2008 6:58:13 PM
- punishment - Eric - 6/30/2008 11:51:41 AM
- Oil "bubble" - Ro b - 6/29/2008 4:52:47 PM
- Unchecked oil commodity markets will bring the economy to it's knees - Lindy - 6/29/2008 2:53:44 AM
- Again, amazing. - TB - 6/28/2008 7:56:01 PM
  - First, "ad hominem". Then source. What about the contents? - Bowser - 6/28/2008 9:27:31 PM
    - What about the contents? - TB - 6/28/2008 11:19:44 PM
  - Question - Hans - 6/28/2008 8:49:34 PM
    - About 15 percent. (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/30/2008 7:29:00 AM
    - Good question. - TB - 6/28/2008 11:07:46 PM
      - re: Good question. - Hans - 6/28/2008 11:33:02 PM

Obama and "change" - TB - 6/29/2008 12:48:14 AM

First quarter growth revised upward again - TB - 6/26/2008 4:47:42 PM
- re: First quarter growth revised upward again - Yeti - 6/27/2008 12:16:41 AM
  - Good point - TB - 6/27/2008 4:04:47 AM
    - Recessions are always declared after the fact, even in the dumbed down case - Yeti - 6/27/2008 5:16:37 AM
  - Oh, and add in - Yeti - 6/27/2008 12:21:18 AM
- I certainly hope the Bush administration doesn't plan to brag about 1% growth... - z - 6/26/2008 7:21:49 PM
  - I wouldn't either. - TB - 6/26/2008 7:25:15 PM
    - well thank goodness you used the word "artificially" - z - 6/26/2008 9:08:51 PM
      - You could hear a pin drop (n/t) - pb - 6/27/2008 7:46:47 AM
      - Okay, here's fifty billion dollars. - TB - 6/26/2008 10:29:39 PM
        
        By what twist of conservative logic are we to believe - z - 6/27/2008 1:43:46 PM
        
        Your benchmark was enough funding to hunt down bin Laden. - TB - 6/27/2008 2:06:49 PM
        
        How do you know he's not in Afghanistan??? - z - 6/27/2008 3:12:02 PM
        
        Well, how do you know he's not in Wisconsin??? - TB - 6/27/2008 4:32:58 PM
- It's a sad state of affairs. - Bowser - 6/26/2008 5:53:12 PM
  - No shit. - RobVG - 6/27/2008 2:45:34 AM
    - Careful there, Rob, words like that will catch you a case of 'TB' - Yeti - 6/28/2008 3:49:34 PM
      - My bad. - RobVG - 6/28/2008 4:11:21 PM
  - I bet it would have passed your "smell test" if the numbers had met your approval. - TB - 6/26/2008 6:40:23 PM
    - Of course - the numbers would have matched observations. - Bowser - 6/26/2008 6:58:42 PM
      - The plural of "anecdote" is not "data." (n/t) - TB - 6/26/2008 7:22:12 PM
        
        The track record of the Bushes is to cherry-pick for political gain. (n/t) - Bowser - 6/26/2008 7:30:52 PM
- Dang, forgot link, too. - TB - 6/26/2008 4:53:08 PM
- Should be "improves" not "improved." (n/t) - TB - 6/26/2008 4:48:34 PM

Hate to say this - Yeti - 6/27/2008 7:45:28 PM

George Carlin Dead - James Brown - 6/23/2008 6:05:05 AM
- re: George Carlin Dead - Eri - 6/24/2008 2:38:01 AM
  - More like... - Socrates II - 6/24/2008 4:09:34 AM
    - I didn't say I didn't like it - Eri - 6/24/2008 11:40:22 PM
      - Yes, but... - Socrates II - 6/25/2008 1:28:28 PM
- "Shit" - Robert - 6/23/2008 6:17:41 AM
  - His "STUFF!" - carl - 6/23/2008 5:53:56 PM
  - The Ultimate Irony - Socrates II - 6/23/2008 1:51:45 PM
    - Piss - Jody - 6/23/2008 4:34:53 PM
      - You could probably make that 8 words today. (n/t) - Lee - 6/23/2008 7:19:35 PM
        
        Kids and WORDS TODAY - carl - 6/23/2008 7:23:03 PM
        
        Yeah, seems the critics of Elvis were right. (n/t) - Lee - 6/23/2008 10:09:31 PM
        
        Good article from the Chicago Tribune - Socrates II - 6/24/2008 4:05:34 AM
        
        A different side of George - Socrates II - 6/26/2008 7:59:39 PM
        
        Taking a swipe at golf - Socrates II - 6/27/2008 2:35:39 PM

Either you support us, or your against terrorism- McCain's advisor gives us some straight talk... - ARRELL - 6/24/2008 5:00:55 PM
- Isn't that like the third dumb thing Black has said in the past few months? (n/t) - TB - 6/24/2008 7:01:44 PM
  - Actually, I thought he was being truthful... - ARRELL - 6/24/2008 7:35:46 PM
    - Fear as a political weapon - TB - 6/24/2008 8:19:26 PM
      - Save that BS for one of your 'ditto-head' blogs - ARRELL - 6/24/2008 9:29:06 PM
        
        Sorry, I thought the subject was using fear as a political weapon. - TB - 6/25/2008 12:07:38 AM
        
        re: Sorry, I thought the subject was using fear as a political weapon. - James Brown - 6/26/2008 5:36:05 AM
        
        Work on the grammar. The subject of the sentence was "violations." (n/t) - TB - 6/26/2008 4:22:56 PM
        
        The subject was what this administration HAS DONE using fear as a weapon... - ARRELL - 6/25/2008 1:29:51 AM
        
        Everyone detained in Guantanamo were captured in a war zone. - Lee - 6/26/2008 4:38:25 AM
        
        Many were collected by offering a 'bounty'.... And that led to the usual problems - ARRELL - 6/26/2008 5:42:20 AM
        
        A little more on Parhat - TB - 6/26/2008 6:43:31 PM
        
        Apply the case to this one man then. - Lee - 6/26/2008 2:15:52 PM
        
        You're the one with the blanket - Tony - 6/27/2008 2:11:20 PM
        
        This isn't about guilt or innocence. - Lee - 6/27/2008 2:17:54 PM
        
        re: The subject was fear. - TB - 6/25/2008 3:26:06 AM
        
        Really!? By reading your last posts - Yeti - 6/25/2008 6:47:00 AM
        
        You're right. There is "nothing to see here." - TB - 6/25/2008 3:23:03 PM
        
        re: You're right. There is "nothing to see here." - James Brown - 6/26/2008 5:24:25 AM
- Terror mastermind releases new tape.... - ARRELL - 6/24/2008 5:16:10 PM
  - That face, those clothes...how can they live like that?. (n/t) - ER - 6/25/2008 2:37:06 AM
- re: Either you support us, or _you're_ against terrorism- McCain's advisor gives us some straight talk... - ARRELL - 6/24/2008 5:02:04 PM

Supreme Court reaffirms Second Amendment - TB - 6/26/2008 4:33:32 PM
- The Quiet Militia. - RobVG - 6/27/2008 2:24:58 AM
- "Activist judges upset 70 years of precedent" - Tony - 6/27/2008 1:39:16 AM
  - If he doesn't like law abiding citizens having weapons. - Lee - 6/27/2008 3:18:20 AM

What has NATO landed itself in? - Jacob - 6/26/2008 6:38:28 PM
- It's worse than that. - Bowser - 6/26/2008 11:40:59 PM

Sorry, John McCain, you can't have him! - z - 6/19/2008 4:11:56 AM
- Alex will be a safe, NY broker. - William Frantz - 6/26/2008 8:56:13 PM
- re: Sorry, John McCain, you can't have him! - Anon - 6/20/2008 6:25:31 PM
  - We should set up a system of gladiatorial combat. Volunteers only, of course. - alcaray - 6/20/2008 9:21:10 PM
- Fact check - TB - 6/19/2008 7:30:31 PM
  - That's a ludicrous "fact-check" - z - 6/19/2008 9:03:41 PM
    - Korea - TB - 6/20/2008 3:37:16 AM
      - "sometimes I wonder if the war would have gone better...." - Lindy - 6/20/2008 11:00:05 PM
      - "...we would surrender if our enemies would just commit enough violence" - McFly - 6/20/2008 5:51:28 PM
        
        re: "...we would surrender if our enemies would just commit enough violence" - TB - 6/20/2008 6:55:25 PM
        
        re: "...we would surrender .". and the Pottery Barn Rule - Andrew - 6/20/2008 9:00:27 PM
        
        Maybe Obama should court Colin Powell for VP? (n/t) - Lindy - 6/20/2008 10:53:56 PM
        
        What??? - McFly - 6/20/2008 8:55:01 PM
        
        Okay. - TB - 6/20/2008 9:49:03 PM
        
        It's ok, I'm used to getting shoved around by you - McFly - 6/20/2008 11:47:18 PM
        
        All I'm asking you to do is think. - TB - 6/21/2008 5:03:43 AM
        
        NO ONE on the Zone is stupid...except - Jody - 6/22/2008 5:12:45 PM
        
        So you sit down at a table to play blackjack. - alcaray - 6/22/2008 4:44:37 AM
        
        Ah, the conceit: Anyone who says things that departs from the TB Approved Line... - Yeti - 6/22/2008 3:10:10 AM
        
        You want to give it a try? - TB - 6/22/2008 11:55:19 PM
        
        WARNING: Potty-mouth content in my post above - McFly - 6/20/2008 9:16:55 PM
        
        Oh yeah...like I NEVER have heard of those before;) - Jody - 6/22/2008 5:10:37 PM
      - Just a couple quick points - z - 6/20/2008 2:21:35 PM
        
        Iran - TB - 6/20/2008 4:01:20 PM
        
        Yes, thanks to Bush, Iran's influence has grown greatly in Iraq - z - 6/20/2008 4:48:57 PM
        
        Go look at what's happening now. (n/t) - TB - 6/20/2008 6:00:32 PM
    - In the US, soldiers are armed and enlist. - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/19/2008 11:40:20 PM
      - re: In the US, soldiers are armed and enlist. - James Brown - 6/21/2008 9:17:15 PM
      - Propaganda negra - ER - 6/20/2008 12:02:29 AM
        
        Eventually... - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/20/2008 1:31:55 AM
        
        Say what? (n/t) - ER - 6/20/2008 2:36:00 AM
        
        Do you really want me to repeat it? - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/20/2008 6:25:52 AM
        
        "White noise:" the vibrational equivalent of squid ink (n/t) - TB - 6/20/2008 3:16:06 AM
- re: you can't have him - TB - 6/19/2008 5:14:23 PM
- Are we anticipating a draft? - RobVG - 6/19/2008 4:48:56 AM

Womb with a view - ER - 6/25/2008 12:31:04 PM
- Rocky Mountain weird: - podrock - 6/26/2008 2:52:50 PM
- re: Womb with a view - TB - 6/25/2008 3:10:45 PM
  - The Land of the Knee-Walking Turkeys - ER - 6/25/2008 6:11:03 PM
    - You got something against knee-walkers? - Bowser - 6/26/2008 5:51:33 AM

Pratt and Whitney developing better jet engine - TB - 6/25/2008 7:18:59 PM

Tevye speaks... - ER - 6/24/2008 11:31:04 PM
- re: Tevye speaks... - Marcia - 6/25/2008 4:17:49 AM
  - There have been several attacks since 9/11. - alcaray - 6/25/2008 4:36:15 AM
- Well done! - Bowser - 6/25/2008 12:17:55 AM

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