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ETA or Al Qaeda? - Raoul - 3/13/2004 11:24:29 AM
- Appeasement: "The act of feeding a crocodile in hopes that it will eat you last." - RobVG - 3/13/2004 10:56:08 PM
  - re: Appeasement? - Raoul - 3/14/2004 5:50:12 PM
    - re: Appeasement? - RobVG - 3/14/2004 9:18:03 PM

Hmmm. Madrid demonstrators blame bombing on unpopular government support of Iraq aggression. - Bowser - 3/13/2004 7:23:16 PM
- Let's not make excuses for crazy people - m - 3/14/2004 1:46:46 AM
- A thousand lefty wingnuts vs. millions in the streets - ebnelson - 3/13/2004 8:58:28 PM
  - One must assume that a lot of people in Madrid are at funerals today. - Mary Anne - 3/13/2004 9:40:33 PM
    - The funerals will go on for awhile - ebnelson - 3/14/2004 3:14:09 AM
      - It really is much easier to put a spin on someone's thoughts rather than to ask for a direct statement. - Mary Anne - 3/14/2004 3:17:59 PM
        
        Poor Bowser can speak for himself - ebnelson - 3/14/2004 5:56:21 PM
        
        Not as eloquently, ed, and God knows we have to use all our "firepower" against you!! - Bowser - 3/14/2004 7:59:33 PM
      - With all due respect, ed, I think that one belongs on Flame. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/14/2004 3:23:52 AM
- What took so long? (n/t) - RobVG - 3/13/2004 8:01:41 PM
  - re: It's not yet completely certain who did it - Raoul - 3/13/2004 8:17:18 PM
- re:Arrests - Raoul - 3/13/2004 7:57:50 PM

"President Bush accused Democratic presidential rival John Kerry and other critics on Saturday of wanting to punish American families and workers with old, ineffective economic policies." - Bowser - 3/14/2004 7:40:00 PM

Inside look at United States concentration camps. - Jack Herer - 3/12/2004 10:00:08 PM
- Bullshit! How come none of the other detainees agree with him? (n/t) - David F Mayer - 3/14/2004 6:37:35 AM
  - They seem to do that. - Bowser - 3/14/2004 1:33:38 PM
- The story and the claims are over the top - ebnelson - 3/13/2004 12:41:50 PM
- You're really buying this, aren't you? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/13/2004 1:39:56 AM
  - You're not? - Bowser - 3/13/2004 2:01:47 AM
    - re: You're not? - Tom Brosz - 3/13/2004 2:57:32 AM
      - And here's the next one. - Bowser - 3/13/2004 5:28:25 AM
      - Old tricks, and not the old dogs' tricks. - Bowser - 3/13/2004 3:25:56 AM
        
        *sigh* - Tom Brosz - 3/13/2004 5:00:41 AM
        
        You're right. On that one I was dead wrong. - Bowser - 3/13/2004 3:50:46 PM
        
        Like I said, I wasn't all that clear about the analogy I was making either. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/13/2004 9:56:09 PM
        
        I'll go back over that. - Bowser - 3/13/2004 5:36:50 AM

UK releases all Gitmo returnees - Bowser - 3/11/2004 9:21:29 PM
- re: UK releases all Gitmo returnees - gbaikie - 3/12/2004 2:54:53 AM
- They were released unharmed. That is more than Al Qaeda did to the poor bastards in Madrid. - David F Mayer - 3/11/2004 11:27:21 PM
  - I'm not sure what that has to do with the US violating these folks Human Rights. - Bowser - 3/12/2004 2:11:48 AM
    - What in the hell are you talking about. - David F Mayer - 3/12/2004 8:17:17 AM
      - David, you are straining his analytical ability - ebnelson - 3/14/2004 5:13:49 AM
      - re: What in the hell are you talking about. - Bowser - 3/12/2004 2:44:37 PM
        
        Perhaps you did not read what I wrote carefully enough. - David F Mayer - 3/14/2004 3:10:24 AM
    - They were in Afghanistan, they were not kidnapped, they were working with Taliban and their rights were not violated (n/t) - ebnelson - 3/12/2004 3:43:50 AM
      - I'm going out on a limb here. I'm putting the card to my forehead, - - - - Bowser - 3/12/2004 4:24:40 AM
        
        Your humorectomy was nearly successful - ebnelson - 3/12/2004 5:46:56 AM

Europe adopting a US view towards Islamic terror after Spain? - phil - 3/12/2004 11:20:46 PM
- re:Certainly not attacking a country that had nothing to do with terrorism - Raoul - 3/13/2004 10:22:04 AM
  - So what country are you referring to? (n/t) - ebnelson - 3/14/2004 4:01:23 AM
  - re: re:I mean: commuters (n/t) - Raoul - 3/13/2004 10:28:33 AM

GWB nominee to increase US manufacturing jobs opened major plant in China last year. - Bowser - 3/13/2004 4:06:47 PM
- Man who would be dem nominee has wife who moved dozens of factories overseas - ebnelson - 3/14/2004 3:33:17 AM

At Shell, New Accounting and Rosier Oil Outlook . . . - D. Spires - 3/12/2004 6:24:19 PM
- "..Rosier Oil Outlook..." was the overstatement, not the real state of shell's reserves... - jms - 3/13/2004 10:00:46 PM
  - Nope. Yep. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/14/2004 12:36:16 AM
- re: At Shell, New Accounting and Rosier Oil Outlook . . . - REB - 3/12/2004 9:37:09 PM

Evil Bush slashes scientific research funding; scientists revolt in protest - phil - 3/12/2004 1:56:57 PM
- I get it!! It wasn't Bush!!! (I'll bet French Muslims are behind it all.) (n/t) - Bowser - 3/13/2004 10:58:47 PM
- Welfare state vs. Science? In France that's an easy choice. (n/t) - Gary - 3/12/2004 6:07:33 PM
- re: The french research minister is Claudie Haignere, the former astronaut - Raoul - 3/12/2004 5:25:14 PM
  - re: The french research minister is Claudie Haignere, the former astronaut - phil - 3/12/2004 11:02:49 PM
- How do you say "5,000 geeks" in French? ;-) (n/t) - Jacob Samorodin - 3/12/2004 4:43:39 PM

Ex-Guantanamo Detainee Claims Mistreatment . . . - D. Spires - 3/13/2004 7:05:32 PM

Bush lies again - Donald - 3/13/2004 3:57:33 PM

Medicare analyst confirms he was ordered to withhold unfavorable cost estimate. - Bowser - 3/13/2004 3:56:32 PM

Hans Blix Disarming Iraq - Raoul - 3/6/2004 2:39:50 PM
- Politicians and war. - Bowser - 3/6/2004 5:11:48 PM
  - re: Politicians and war. - Raoul - 3/6/2004 8:06:12 PM
    - re: Politicians and war. - gbaikie - 3/7/2004 2:35:16 AM
      - Back up. Terrorism is a tactic. - Bowser - 3/7/2004 7:24:46 AM
        
        Bush defined the target of the war early - ebnelson - 3/7/2004 4:25:13 PM
        
        re: Back up. Terrorism is a tactic. - gbaikie - 3/7/2004 9:41:10 AM
      - re: terrorism and war - S - 3/7/2004 3:10:13 AM
        
        re: terrorism and war - gbaikie - 3/7/2004 4:26:48 AM
        
        But that's not what you said - S - 3/7/2004 4:38:10 AM
        
        re: But that's not what you said - gbaikie - 3/7/2004 6:42:57 AM
        
        And that wasn't the question - S - 3/7/2004 7:37:41 PM
        
        re: And that wasn't the question - gbaikie - 3/7/2004 10:43:27 PM
- re: Hans Blix Disarming Iraq - gbaikie - 3/6/2004 4:28:02 PM
  - reHANS BLIX AND THE WAR AGAINST IRAQ: re: Hans Blix Disarming Iraq - Carole JEAN - 3/13/2004 11:42:48 AM
  - It is well established that saddam was bribing France & Germany - ebnelson - 3/7/2004 4:58:13 AM
    - The "bribe" links didn't come up, ed. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/7/2004 3:54:54 PM
  - re: Veto - Raoul - 3/6/2004 7:53:26 PM
    - 'child play for the French' - ebnelson - 3/7/2004 5:02:39 AM
      - re: Arrogance - Raoul - 3/7/2004 10:19:55 AM
        
        The ROW - ebnelson - 3/7/2004 4:14:24 PM
    - re: Veto - gbaikie - 3/7/2004 12:53:47 AM

No More Excuses on Jobs . . . - D. Spires - 3/12/2004 6:36:42 PM
- Republican strategist: No jobs are being created, there were no WMD.. - Bowser - 3/13/2004 2:27:25 AM
- re: No More Excuses on Jobs . . . - gbaikie - 3/12/2004 9:35:01 PM
  - Krugman has a track record about as accurate as a ufo promoter when it comes to this economy - ebnelson - 3/13/2004 5:46:15 AM

G.I.'s May Be Targets of Kidnappers and Rebels Posing as Policemen . . . - D. Spires - 3/12/2004 6:30:21 PM

10 Bombs Shatter Trains in Madrid, Killing 192 . . . - D. Spires - 3/12/2004 6:00:51 PM
- Ground Zero, Madrid . . . - D. Spires - 3/12/2004 6:15:54 PM
- Investigation of Bombings in Madrid Yields Conflicting Clues . . . - D. Spires - 3/12/2004 6:08:48 PM

U.S. Asks Allies to Condemn Iran on Nuclear Issue . . . - D. Spires - 3/9/2004 6:17:51 PM
- OK. Well here goes. Iran, in the name of the Father (GHWB), the Son (GWB), the Holy Ghost (Dick Cheney) I rebuke thee and all thy stand for!! - Bowser - 3/10/2004 5:32:47 AM
  - You know, a normal person might think atomic weapons in the hands of the Ayatollahs is a bad idea. - Tom Brosz - 3/10/2004 7:57:18 AM
    - You know, a normal person might think atomic weapons in the hands of an Israeli war criminal is a bad idea. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/11/2004 6:36:23 AM
    - yeah, too bad - Davin L. - 3/10/2004 4:16:50 PM
      - One Addition. . . - Justin Kelly - 3/11/2004 4:34:27 AM
        
        re: One Addition. . . - Davin L. - 3/11/2004 4:39:52 AM
        
        Cakewalks - Tom Brosz - 3/11/2004 7:57:59 PM
        
        re: One Addition. . . - Justin Kelly - 3/11/2004 5:06:44 AM
        
        re: One Addition. . . - McFly - 3/11/2004 3:03:51 PM
        
        re: One Addition. . . - Justin Kelly - 3/12/2004 1:33:12 AM
        
        Thanks for your reply, Justin (n/t) - McFly - 3/12/2004 6:03:47 PM
        
        Amen.. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/11/2004 4:02:15 PM
        
        Well said, McFly. (n/t) - Davin L. - 3/11/2004 3:33:11 PM
        
        re: One Addition. . . - Davin L. - 3/11/2004 5:18:25 AM
        
        Iraq - Tom Brosz - 3/11/2004 8:00:52 PM
      - BTW... - Tom Brosz - 3/10/2004 5:35:16 PM
        
        re: BTW... - McFly - 3/10/2004 6:33:13 PM
        
        Iran - Tom Brosz - 3/10/2004 7:00:20 PM
        
        What do you think I am, an idiot? - Davin L. - 3/10/2004 6:16:11 PM
        
        You established that long ago. (n/t) - ebnelson - 3/11/2004 2:46:43 AM
        
        Is that a trick question? Sorry. Couldn't resist. ;) - Tom Brosz - 3/10/2004 6:47:08 PM
        
        re: Is that a trick question? Sorry. Couldn't resist. ;) - Davin L. - 3/10/2004 7:34:47 PM
        
        Incidentally, almost two-thirds of NATO are members of the Coalition. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/10/2004 11:08:26 PM
        
        Funny how that happens: you expand NATO and make your sponsorship of the new members contingent upon them supporting the war. LOL (n/t) - Davin L. - 3/10/2004 11:15:21 PM
        
        Uncle Sugar supplies 'em, pays 'em, pays their countries, for a couple of hundred folks. - Bowser - 3/11/2004 2:03:21 AM
        
        Clever. Most unfortunately... - Tom Brosz - 3/11/2004 12:11:18 AM
        
        hold on there sparky - Davin L. - 3/11/2004 12:20:47 AM
        
        re: hold on, yourself - Tom Brosz - 3/11/2004 2:51:49 AM
        
        re: hold on, yourself - Davin L. - 3/11/2004 4:21:00 AM
        
        Okay, I counted the United States, which maybe wasn't strictly cricket. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/11/2004 7:53:28 PM
        
        For the record... - Tom Brosz - 3/11/2004 2:58:27 AM
      - re: too bad - Tom Brosz - 3/10/2004 5:26:15 PM
        
        Tom Brosz timeless collection of H'Zone favorite old songs: - Davin L. - 3/10/2004 6:10:04 PM
        
        re: H'Zone favorite old songs: - Tom Brosz - 3/10/2004 6:38:29 PM
        
        Wow- you really must be desperate - Davin L. - 3/10/2004 7:24:09 PM
        
        re: Wow- you really must be desperate - gbaikie - 3/11/2004 1:00:35 AM
        
        re: Wow- you really must be desperate - Davin L. - 3/11/2004 4:33:27 AM
        
        re: Wow- you really must be desperate - gbaikie - 3/11/2004 7:08:17 AM
      - Excellent. You did forget The Ultimate Weapon. - Bowser - 3/10/2004 4:33:29 PM
    - Short quiz. Betcha won't answer, as the truth would hurt too much. - Bowser - 3/10/2004 3:43:34 PM
      - See my response to Davin. - Tom Brosz - 3/10/2004 6:24:25 PM
        
        Told you so. Told you so, told you so told you so. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/10/2004 8:28:34 PM
        
        Isn't it funny how he throws the term 'buttmonkey' around while he's this predictable in his responses and positions? - Davin L. - 3/10/2004 9:42:05 PM
        
        "RWBBM." Yeah...has a nice ring to it! (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/10/2004 11:10:07 PM
        
        You could abbreviate it to... - Mary Anne - 3/11/2004 1:29:43 PM
        
        Try NOT recycling the lme arguments on RightWingBlogs, and we might shorten it to the even snazzier RWBM (RightWingButtMonkey) (n/t) - Davin L. - 3/10/2004 11:17:38 PM
        
        Is that one of those "the nature of the source invalidates the argument" things? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/11/2004 12:12:24 AM
        
        Ripping off someone elses online ramble and mining it for rhetoric is not a 'source', its parroting. - Davin L. - 3/11/2004 12:22:47 AM

Economists say growing deficit is slowing creation of jobs - Bowser - 3/11/2004 8:34:57 PM
- re: Economists say growing [trade] deficit is slowing creation of jobs (n/t) - RobVG - 3/12/2004 6:10:51 AM
  - It's starting to look like the National Enquirer around here. (n/t) - RobVG - 3/12/2004 6:15:42 AM
    - What does the National Enquirer look like? (n/t) - Bowser - 3/12/2004 3:31:00 PM
      - Bogus headlines. - RobVG - 3/12/2004 4:09:03 PM

Wild buttmonkey finally captured - R.L. - 3/11/2004 7:04:03 AM
- C'mon, admit it. You just like the feeling you get when you type "buttmonkey." (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/11/2004 5:07:31 PM
- buttmonkey hunter episode 22 - R.L. - 3/11/2004 8:02:47 AM
- no buttmonkeys were harmed in the making of this post - r.l. - 3/11/2004 7:30:33 AM
- More info. - Bowser - 3/11/2004 7:22:51 AM
  - shame on you........... - Publius - 3/12/2004 3:01:05 PM
- SAVE THE BUTTMONKEY! - r.l. - 3/11/2004 7:09:39 AM
  - buttmonkey attacks school... - R.L. - 3/11/2004 7:13:39 AM
    - Wild pack of buttmonkies runs rampant - r.l. - 3/11/2004 7:18:57 AM
      - buttmonkey corrupts america, eviscerater brosz!!! - r.l. - 3/11/2004 7:41:48 AM
        
        suggested answer to your significant question - Daniel - 3/11/2004 11:57:04 AM
        
        re: suggested answer to your significant question - gbaikie - 3/11/2004 8:11:32 PM
        
        ..but how should *this* board (current events) be renamed? - Daniel - 3/12/2004 6:56:39 AM

Al Qaeda behind Spanish Attack? - REB - 3/11/2004 8:37:33 PM
- Wow. Just realized it's exactly 2 1/2 years, to the day - m - 3/12/2004 4:07:42 AM
  - Does not seem to be their syle to leave a note. - REB - 3/12/2004 12:55:54 PM
- re: But were they suicide bombers? And how did authorities find the van with detonators in it? - Success_Machine - 3/12/2004 3:52:29 AM
  - re:Chechen rebels bombed a Moscow commuter train recently - Success_Machine - 3/12/2004 12:21:06 PM
- Quite possible - Larry J - 3/11/2004 10:04:21 PM
  - Waiting for more information - Tom Brosz - 3/11/2004 11:45:52 PM

Spain in shock - Raoul - 3/11/2004 6:39:50 PM
- It is war and should be treated as war - ebnelson - 3/12/2004 4:11:58 AM
  - It is a WAR CRIME to target civilians. - David F Mayer - 3/12/2004 8:20:42 AM
    - Like these WAR CRIMES, ya mean? - Odin - 3/12/2004 10:15:45 AM

South Korean President Impeached - Justin Kelly - 3/12/2004 7:33:52 AM
- re: South Korean President Impeached - gbaikie - 3/12/2004 8:45:54 AM

9-11 widow, Dem "consultant" according to Rush, writes Limbaugh. - Bowser - 3/10/2004 10:44:52 PM
- Riddle me this... - RobVG - 3/11/2004 12:38:56 AM
  - "What nation is invulnerable to terrorism?" A lot of them. - Bowser - 3/11/2004 1:57:30 AM
    - Yeah we knew about the possbility...back when Clinton was president. - RobVG - 3/11/2004 3:55:47 AM
      - Come now, let us reason. - Bowser - 3/11/2004 5:06:52 AM
        
        That would be a refreshing change - Tom Brosz - 3/11/2004 5:22:30 PM
        
        You got him on that one, Tom - REB - 3/11/2004 7:03:46 PM
        
        Heh, heh. You, too. See "Reason, truth and lies" below. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/11/2004 7:15:12 PM
        
        Reason, truth and lies. Honesty. Oh, what to bring to the reasoning party? - Bowser - 3/11/2004 6:45:52 PM
        
        Really? - Tom Brosz - 3/11/2004 7:40:01 PM
        
        Yep. Leave out the BS, KISS and look at the allegation. - Bowser - 3/11/2004 8:09:58 PM
        
        Ya got me. - RobVG - 3/11/2004 7:52:27 AM
        
        C'mon now. - Bowser - 3/11/2004 3:56:15 PM
        
        re: C'mon now. - RobVG - 3/11/2004 7:16:33 PM
        
        I'm just repeating myself. - Bowser - 3/11/2004 7:29:53 PM
        
        Prevention - RobVG - 3/12/2004 12:38:46 AM
        
        Somehow. - Bowser - 3/12/2004 2:07:22 AM
        
        I don't have to know more than Kean, just more than you.;) (n/t) - RobVG - 3/12/2004 3:03:12 AM
        
        Please. Help me stay polite. - Bowser - 3/12/2004 4:13:23 AM
        
        Missed your distemper shot I see. - RobVG - 3/12/2004 6:01:32 AM
        
        S.O.P. - Tom Brosz - 3/12/2004 6:24:12 AM
        
        Polite - Tom Brosz - 3/12/2004 5:47:26 AM
        
        re: Ya got me. - REB - 3/11/2004 1:13:13 PM
- re: 9-11 widow - Tom Brosz - 3/10/2004 11:41:39 PM
  - The depths to which leading conservatives go doesn't bother you? - Bowser - 3/11/2004 1:59:04 AM

"dashing hopes that the recent fall in the dollar would stimulate exports." - Bowser - 3/11/2004 6:30:44 AM
- re: Low $ and oil - Raoul - 3/11/2004 6:38:52 AM
  - Is it November yet? - Lindy - 3/12/2004 6:23:06 AM

You know it's bad when - - - - Bowser - 3/12/2004 4:09:10 AM

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