You haven't showed any evidence to support your belief that ethanol is the answer nor that a hydrogen economy is impossible.
You haven't explained where all the farmland will come from to produce the ethanol needed domestically to replace oil, nor where the energy to produce ethanol will come from. Or how you will get around the inputs of fertilizer, herbicide or insecticide without using petroleum.
You haven’t shown any evidence that Zubrin is anything but a fool with no knowledge of the nation’s energy problems.
And whenever you make a statement, like H2 stations are not possible, or its not possible to build a 10,000 psi tank I show you it has ALREADY been done.
Your only response has been to propose the creation of laws that will make Ethanol use mandatory - the environment and energy independence be dammed, and forcing people to drive your single seats cars since they clearly would never be competitive in a market based economy.
Finally, you just wave your aerospace experience like its some magic wisdom, while aerospace engineers are the joke of the tech community.
Here’s a joke I heard today. How many aerospace engineers does it take to change a lightbulb? No one knows, but if you put out a $10 million dollar RFP you will get a dozen proposals to study the problem using the principles of system enegineers and create a model to develop a flowchart that will determine the optimal number of aerospace engineers needed under a variety of conditions and skills sets. The results will be presented in two years in the form of a white paper, a strategic roadmap for future research and an accompany viewgraph explaining the results.
Meanwhile real engineers solve problems by actually building things, testing them and improving them by iterations. You and Zubrin theorize how a hydrogen car will behave in a wreck, real engineers do the crash tests and simple improve the design until it meets or exceeds certification requirements, as is the case with the prototypes hydrogen vehicles on the road today.
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Nope, You failed to make your case
The whole thread (132 posts)
- Robert Zubrin blasts the "Hydrogen Economy"
- Zubrin's folly
- Single-Seat Cars Could Reduce Fuel Consumption by 75 Percent
- re: Single-Seat Cars Could Reduce Fuel Consumption by 75 Percent
- I guarantee you, hydrogen is not feasible. (n/t)
- Not if its done the way the aerospace industry does it.
- Here is where you are wrong....
- Again, you don;t get it.
- Here is where you are wrong....
- Not if its done the way the aerospace industry does it.
- I guarantee you, hydrogen is not feasible. (n/t)
- Sorry, but I believe a nail this big requires a hammer of sufficient size. (n/t)
- Make them flex-fueled just as Zubrin suggests.
- re: Make them flex-fueled just as Zubrin suggests.
- We could start with a 10% ethanol in gasoline mixture
- re: We could start with a 10% ethanol in gasoline mixture
- And then reduce the average weight of vehicles on the road
- We could start with a 10% ethanol in gasoline mixture
- re: Make them flex-fueled just as Zubrin suggests.
- Make them flex-fueled just as Zubrin suggests.
- re: Single-Seat Cars Could Reduce Fuel Consumption by 75 Percent
- Single-Seat Cars Could Reduce Fuel Consumption by 75 Percent
- Hydrogen problems are real
- re: Robert Zubrin blasts the "Hydrogen Economy"
- 2 Corrections
- You should get your facts straight before you write such an emphatic comment
- re: You should get your facts straight before you write such an emphatic comment
- re: you should read TFA before you post it as support for what you have said.
- re: you should read TFA before you post it as support for what you have said.
- About Newcomb and the flying machines.
- last part of post truncated for some reason
- re: You should get your facts straight before you write such an emphatic comment
- re: you should read TFA before you post it as support for what you have said.
- re: You should get your facts straight before you write such an emphatic comment
- Robert Zubrin is an aerospace engineer like me.
- 84mpg VW Lupo
- re: Robert Zubrin is an aerospace engineer like me.
- 3-wheels
- re: Robert Zubrin is an aerospace engineer like me.
- re: Robert Zubrin is an aerospace engineer like me.
- Hence my prediction.
- Radical Environmentalists have…
- True.
- re: True.
- Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
- re: Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
- re: Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
- And the hydrogen cars are also just prototypes.
- Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
- re: True.
- True.
- Radical Environmentalists have…
- Hence my prediction.
- re: Robert Zubrin is an aerospace engineer like me.
- Perhaps a reference link to your supporting material would be instructive here. (n/t)
- I think the Hydrogen economy will be great....
- re: Robert Zubrin blasts the "Hydrogen Economy"
- Zubrin's folly
