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Hydrogen cars
http://news.com.com/Hydrogen+cars+to+hit+the+road+by+2015/2100-11389_3-6093817.html
Hydrogen cars to hit the road by 2015?
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
Published: July 13, 2006, 10:56 AM PDT
http://www.motortrend.com/features/auto_news/112_news051028_ford_focus/index.html
Ford Delivers Hydrogen Focus Fuel Cell Fleet
October 28, 2005
Ford Motor Company has handed over the keys to five hybrid hydrogen Ford Focus Fuel Cell vehicles in Southeast Michigan this week as part of a five-city 30-car program to conduct real world testing of fuel cell technology. Taylor will get four vehicles and Ann Arbor will receive one. Area residents will notice the Focus Fuel Cell vehicles in their neighborhoods as city employees drive the vehicles for city business or, in Taylor , as the water department travels to read meters. The vehicles will also be part of community events to spread awareness of the demonstration program.
Prototypes are already running, challenge is getting costs down to compete with Gasoline.
Corn Supply and Biofuel…
http://www.ecoworld.com/home/articles2.cfm?tid=412
Also its take more petroleum to make fuel from ethanol then if you just made gasoline from it as this paper shows…
http://petroleum.berkeley.edu/papers/patzek/CRPS416-Patzek-Web.pdf
NOW have Zubrin show his references…..
Space/Science » in reply to Perhaps a reference link to your supporting material would be instructive here.
re: Perhaps a reference link to your supporting material would be instructive here.
The whole thread (132 posts)
- Robert Zubrin blasts the "Hydrogen Economy"
- Zubrin's folly
- Single-Seat Cars Could Reduce Fuel Consumption by 75 Percent
- re: Single-Seat Cars Could Reduce Fuel Consumption by 75 Percent
- I guarantee you, hydrogen is not feasible. (n/t)
- Not if its done the way the aerospace industry does it.
- Here is where you are wrong....
- Again, you don;t get it.
- Here is where you are wrong....
- Not if its done the way the aerospace industry does it.
- I guarantee you, hydrogen is not feasible. (n/t)
- Sorry, but I believe a nail this big requires a hammer of sufficient size. (n/t)
- Make them flex-fueled just as Zubrin suggests.
- re: Make them flex-fueled just as Zubrin suggests.
- We could start with a 10% ethanol in gasoline mixture
- re: We could start with a 10% ethanol in gasoline mixture
- And then reduce the average weight of vehicles on the road
- We could start with a 10% ethanol in gasoline mixture
- re: Make them flex-fueled just as Zubrin suggests.
- Make them flex-fueled just as Zubrin suggests.
- re: Single-Seat Cars Could Reduce Fuel Consumption by 75 Percent
- Single-Seat Cars Could Reduce Fuel Consumption by 75 Percent
- Hydrogen problems are real
- re: Robert Zubrin blasts the "Hydrogen Economy"
- 2 Corrections
- You should get your facts straight before you write such an emphatic comment
- re: You should get your facts straight before you write such an emphatic comment
- re: you should read TFA before you post it as support for what you have said.
- re: you should read TFA before you post it as support for what you have said.
- About Newcomb and the flying machines.
- last part of post truncated for some reason
- re: You should get your facts straight before you write such an emphatic comment
- re: you should read TFA before you post it as support for what you have said.
- re: You should get your facts straight before you write such an emphatic comment
- Robert Zubrin is an aerospace engineer like me.
- 84mpg VW Lupo
- re: Robert Zubrin is an aerospace engineer like me.
- 3-wheels
- re: Robert Zubrin is an aerospace engineer like me.
- re: Robert Zubrin is an aerospace engineer like me.
- Hence my prediction.
- Radical Environmentalists have…
- True.
- re: True.
- Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
- re: Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
- re: Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
- And the hydrogen cars are also just prototypes.
- Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
- re: True.
- True.
- Radical Environmentalists have…
- Hence my prediction.
- re: Robert Zubrin is an aerospace engineer like me.
- Perhaps a reference link to your supporting material would be instructive here. (n/t)
- I think the Hydrogen economy will be great....
- re: Robert Zubrin blasts the "Hydrogen Economy"
- Zubrin's folly
