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Obama says his plan would create 4 million jobs... - Jody - 1/11/2009 3:09:46 PM
- Easy. - Bowser - 1/11/2009 4:47:03 PM
  - You know what makes that so sad? - Eri - 1/11/2009 8:36:29 PM
    - Hey, at least 4 Million and 4 - carl - 1/12/2009 5:52:30 PM
- First you create projects that wouldn't have been funded otherwise and then hire people to complete the projects. - Eri - 1/11/2009 4:43:12 PM
  - re: projects that wouldn't have been funded otherwise - TB - 1/11/2009 9:04:00 PM
    - A Conservative Myth - that pure capitalism is a viable economic system. - Bowser - 1/12/2009 1:09:15 AM
      - So true Bowser - azstrummer - 1/12/2009 7:57:42 PM
        
        I think solar systems would make grid improvements less urgent. - Bowser - 1/12/2009 11:46:13 PM

Shot in the butt - tax cuts for wealthy create jobs. - Bowser - 1/12/2009 12:14:13 PM
- Butt-Tax=BOTOX - carl - 1/12/2009 6:39:05 PM

The Bush Legacy - Afghanistan - Bowser - 1/12/2009 8:30:45 AM
- Vistages of the Road Warrior - Lindy - 1/12/2009 4:47:43 PM

Israeli offensive has so far killed at least 763 people, including children, and wounded more than 3,100 others - Lindy - 1/10/2009 3:42:23 AM
- 1,176 people have been killed by Palestinian violence and terrorism since September 2000, including children, and 8,341 Israelis wounded in terror attacks between 2001-2007 - Buck Galaxy - 1/11/2009 2:48:41 AM
  - Try this one, and the Israeli "explanation" you'll read in the US. - Bowser - 1/11/2009 7:57:25 AM
    - re: Try this one - TB - 1/11/2009 8:43:01 PM
  - The Israeli kill ratio is ranked from 9 to 1 up to 25 to 1. - Bowser - 1/11/2009 7:34:09 AM
- Pure slaughter in Gaza - Lindy - 1/10/2009 4:42:18 AM
  - Pure slaughter in many nations?...What's the difference? - Jacob - 1/10/2009 5:41:01 PM
    - The Holocaust - one of many, no big whoops? - Bowser - 1/10/2009 5:51:25 PM
      - Good thing law and order prevails in America. - Jacob - 1/10/2009 5:58:19 PM
        
        A little off the wall today, Jacob? - Bowser - 1/10/2009 6:27:00 PM
        
        re: A little off the wall today, Jacob? - Lindy - 1/10/2009 6:36:03 PM
        
        I'm not usually "amiably serious". - Bowser - 1/10/2009 7:18:15 PM
        
        re: I'm not usually "amiably serious". - Lindy - 1/10/2009 10:11:40 PM
- Are you suggesting that Pakistan could kill children and civilians? - Lee - 1/10/2009 4:17:53 AM

Samantha Davies, alone, sailing around the world - Raoul - 1/11/2009 7:48:13 PM

Pirates get paid ransom, their day goes downhill from there. - TB - 1/10/2009 6:57:01 AM
- The article talks "high seas". It looks exceedingly calm to me. - Bowser - 1/10/2009 11:58:34 PM
  - I think they had a small getaway boat. - TB - 1/11/2009 4:19:15 AM
    - Possible. I'd rather think it's a cover story, though. (n/t) - Bowser - 1/11/2009 4:51:52 AM
- Poetic justice. (n/t) - Jacob - 1/10/2009 5:32:49 PM

Inexcusable - Raoul - 1/9/2009 5:14:23 PM
- Solution remains the same: massive UN deployment to the West Bank and Gaza (n/t) - E.P. - 1/9/2009 8:50:34 PM
  - Sorry, U.N. still useless. - TB - 1/9/2009 10:12:44 PM
    - Conservatives expect the UN to be an element of the US DoD. - Bowser - 1/10/2009 5:53:41 AM
      - re: Conservatives expect the UN to be an element of the US DoD. - SDAI-Tech1 - 1/10/2009 10:25:52 PM
      - Very well said, thanks - McFly - 1/10/2009 7:20:35 PM
        
        Useless for *peacekeeping* Tap, tap---is this thing on...? - TB - 1/10/2009 10:14:36 PM
        
        re: Useless for *peacekeeping* Tap, tap---is this thing on...? - SDAI-Tech1 - 1/10/2009 10:39:36 PM
        
        I've noticed that. (n/t) - TB - 1/10/2009 11:03:57 PM
      - Sorry, U.N. STILL useless. - TB - 1/10/2009 6:18:28 AM
        
        "A random discharge of anti- Bush gibberish." - Lindy - 1/10/2009 6:58:26 PM
        
        We're talking about the U.N. (n/t) - TB - 1/10/2009 7:17:15 PM
        
        Who fought the Korean Police Action, for instance? - Bowser - 1/10/2009 7:27:01 AM
        
        Got anything less than fifty years old? - TB - 1/10/2009 7:16:07 PM
        
        Sorry. You had to read the post. - Bowser - 1/11/2009 3:17:56 AM
- re: Inexcusable - J Johnson - 1/9/2009 8:10:03 PM
- Barbarians block Red Cross access to sick and wounded children for 4 days. - Bowser - 1/9/2009 6:19:49 PM
- Vatican describes Gaza as one big concentration camp. - Bowser - 1/9/2009 6:16:21 PM

Obama crosses a line. - Bowser - 1/9/2009 7:13:37 AM
- Wise choice? - RobVG - 1/9/2009 6:36:20 PM
  - On the other hand.... - Lindy - 1/10/2009 6:34:14 PM
    - Keep the faith. - TB - 1/10/2009 7:26:39 PM
  - As a tactic it would be good. Remember Richard Nixon? - Bowser - 1/10/2009 5:43:36 AM
  - makes sense to me - FrankC - 1/10/2009 12:53:54 AM
- I have nothing to offer Bowser except... - Jody - 1/9/2009 2:18:43 PM

"Bush prepares request for rest of bailout funds" while not accounting for what's been spent already. - Bowser - 1/10/2009 5:59:42 PM
- It's their last ditch account to rob America - Lindy - 1/10/2009 6:40:17 PM
- It's their last ditch account to rob America - Lindy - 1/10/2009 6:40:14 PM

For over two months now we've been in the "Obama Recession". - Bowser - 1/9/2009 9:32:33 PM
- There's going to be some changes at the FCC - E.P. - 1/9/2009 9:57:23 PM
  - re: There's going to be some changes at the FCC - Eri - 1/10/2009 3:33:32 PM

Wow... - TB - 1/9/2009 8:44:32 PM
- The best defense being a good offence, as E. P. says. - Bowser - 1/10/2009 5:46:24 AM
- TB..what is a jinker? (n/t) - Jody - 1/9/2009 9:17:56 PM
  - re: what is a jinker? - TB - 1/9/2009 10:01:20 PM
    - Blah..gojevich seems to be nuts, actually. (n/t) - Jody - 1/10/2009 12:02:41 AM
      - re: Blah..gojevich seems to be nuts, actually. - Eri - 1/10/2009 2:10:15 AM

Gaza cams - Eric - 1/9/2009 11:52:51 PM

A GOOD WAR Should Spur the ECONOMY Back - carl - 1/9/2009 2:43:22 PM
- Ain't no sech thing - RNE - 1/9/2009 9:05:15 PM
- The attractive part of the "good" war is spending money. There's a big difference now. - Bowser - 1/9/2009 3:34:26 PM
  - OK, How do we CREATE DEMAND for Hard GOODS? - carl - 1/9/2009 4:14:27 PM

"Unemployment Hits 7.2%, 16-Year High", which was the end of the GHW Bush Administration. - Bowser - 1/9/2009 3:27:13 PM
- Have you read "The Wrecking Crew"? (n/t) - E.P. - 1/9/2009 8:51:46 PM
- SPEND!!!!! SPEND!!!!!!!!!!! SPEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - carl - 1/9/2009 5:42:39 PM

Just to keep things in perspective - azstrummer - 1/8/2009 4:27:35 PM
- That guy is great! I watched all I could find. (n/t) - Bowser - 1/9/2009 1:58:06 AM
  - Lewis Black is shear genius - azstrummer - 1/9/2009 2:36:49 AM
    - Yes he is!!! Thank you Art!! (n/t) - Jody - 1/9/2009 4:03:42 PM

Hamas and Israel - Raoul - 1/4/2009 10:08:34 PM
- It's the calvary against the Indians. - Bowser - 1/5/2009 1:19:41 AM
  - Evacuating the West Bank settlements would help but isn't enough - z - 1/6/2009 3:16:44 AM
    - Jordan would not go for it. - TB - 1/6/2009 5:15:04 AM
      - Original UN partition plan - z - 1/6/2009 7:29:12 AM
        
        re: partition plans - TB - 1/6/2009 6:44:18 PM
        
        " It's about hostility to Jews" - Lindy - 1/7/2009 4:05:15 PM
        
        Lindy... - TB - 1/7/2009 5:51:15 PM
        
        " let your mind process the logic" - Lindy - 1/9/2009 3:33:01 AM
  - Are you listening to yourself? - Eri - 1/5/2009 3:20:37 AM
    - Do you have anything substantive, or do you just want to Flame? - Bowser - 1/5/2009 6:05:03 AM
    - "Pre-1967 borders" - TB - 1/5/2009 5:53:42 AM
      - re: "Pre-1967 borders" - Sakander - 1/8/2009 7:56:10 AM
        
        May it come to pass - The Silent Majority - 1/9/2009 2:14:17 AM
        
        re: May it come to pass - Sakander - 1/9/2009 8:25:34 AM
      - re: "Pre-1967 borders" - Hans - 1/5/2009 4:48:01 PM
      - Yes. After all, the "Palestine Liberation Organization" was founded in 1964, not post-1967. - The Silent Majority - 1/5/2009 7:12:03 AM
  - "I'd bet that if the Israelis returned to Israel the violence would end." - TB - 1/5/2009 1:49:07 AM
    - The Golan is a totally seperate issue. - Lee - 1/5/2009 3:37:23 AM
      - Separate too. (n/t) - Lee - 1/5/2009 3:45:40 AM
- What will they negotiate Raoul? - Lee - 1/4/2009 11:11:08 PM
  - " Hamas doesn't recognize Israel's right to exist. " - Lindy - 1/4/2009 11:36:49 PM
    - Doesn't change that fact about Hamas though, does it? - TB - 1/5/2009 12:02:43 AM
      - They gonna hang all them nigge-, oops, I mean Jews - The Silent Majority - 1/5/2009 3:28:44 AM
        
        US aid to Israel - Raoul - 1/5/2009 6:51:04 PM
        
        Occupation - Buck Galaxy - 1/7/2009 3:46:06 PM
        
        Toss that red herring back into the sea before it starts to stink (n/t) - TSM - 1/6/2009 2:26:02 AM
        
        Not quite. - TB - 1/5/2009 8:14:43 PM
        
        It's still POLITICAL aid, rather than Humanitarian. - nick hoffman - 1/5/2009 8:34:56 PM
        
        Raul was comparing modern Israel to Nazi Germany. - TSM - 1/6/2009 2:22:04 AM
        
        Israel's actions understandable but pointless - andrew - 1/5/2009 6:42:08 PM

Tom Daschle's testimony to Senate Health committee - TB - 1/9/2009 5:25:03 AM
- No one is going anywhere. The Conservative agenda has to play out. - Bowser - 1/9/2009 6:47:42 AM

One good thing about an Obama administration... - TB - 1/7/2009 6:42:56 AM
- Compare what Bush inherited with what he left. - Bowser - 1/8/2009 7:30:59 AM
  - Numbers. Yet again. Read them. Yet again. - TB - 1/8/2009 3:35:59 PM
    - And what was done with Iraq war dollars v. what is done with Medicare. - Bowser - 1/8/2009 5:09:17 PM
      - Fascinating. (n/t) - TB - 1/8/2009 5:36:27 PM
- Another good thing... - TB - 1/8/2009 1:40:42 AM
- The last time we had a Democratic administration we were talking about surpluses, not deficits. (n/t) - z - 1/7/2009 5:52:22 PM
  - Congress controls the purse (n/t) - gbaikie - 1/7/2009 6:12:20 PM
- Lame partisan swipe - Buck Galaxy - 1/7/2009 3:11:17 PM
  - Please describe the process... - TB - 1/7/2009 5:37:59 PM
    - The swing analogy - Buck Galaxy - 1/7/2009 10:10:46 PM
      - re: The swing analogy - TB - 1/8/2009 1:27:25 AM
        
        re: The swing analogy - Buck Galaxy - 1/8/2009 5:28:27 PM
        
        From the Wall Street Journal - TB - 1/9/2009 6:02:29 AM
  - Yep. Those deficits are part of the Bush legacy. - Bowser - 1/7/2009 3:38:36 PM

"New Year's Missile Strike Kills Top Al-Qaeda Operatives" - Bowser - 1/8/2009 11:32:12 PM

And one good thing about Franken being elected - TB - 1/7/2009 8:21:13 PM
- I like the Fairness doctrine. (n/t) - Eri - 1/8/2009 3:38:00 AM
  - Yes. After all, there are only two diametrically opposed views on any issue - The Silent Majority - 1/8/2009 11:55:30 AM
- re: And one good thing about Franken being elected. - It's not over yet. - Marcia - 1/8/2009 1:01:41 AM
  - If a recount always favored the initial winner, why do we bother recounting? - Tony - 1/8/2009 5:39:30 PM
  - Marcia, none of us know the truth - azstrummer - 1/8/2009 1:53:41 PM
  - re: ... and I was... - Marcia - 1/8/2009 2:40:52 AM

Price of GAS Going UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!! - carl - 1/7/2009 3:06:12 PM
- And eventually it will go down again. - TB - 1/7/2009 5:31:06 PM
  - When MONSTER SUV's Overstock dealers again - carl - 1/7/2009 8:35:17 PM

"Franken to be declared Senate victor in Minnesota." - Bowser - 1/5/2009 8:37:59 AM
- Isn't Minnesota the same state that gave us Jesse 'the body' Ventura? - z - 1/6/2009 3:02:59 AM
  - Tell me about it. Look at my governor (California). (n/t) - TB - 1/6/2009 5:02:07 AM
    - SNL Should have a Comedy Sketch - carl - 1/6/2009 7:05:19 PM
- I'm glad he won but not because I'm a huge fan. - azstrummer - 1/5/2009 7:04:38 PM
  - Franken's intellectual capacity. - Bowser - 1/6/2009 4:06:41 AM
    - Franken And Davis Skits - carl - 1/6/2009 7:19:59 PM
  - Now, admit it... - TB - 1/5/2009 8:03:14 PM
    - It's not about admitting it. - azstrummer - 1/5/2009 10:30:31 PM
      - "Minnesota Board Certifies Franken Win." He got the most votes. - Bowser - 1/6/2009 1:22:22 AM
        
        Of course he did. - Lee - 1/6/2009 2:11:11 AM
        
        All I said... - TB - 1/6/2009 2:09:17 AM
        
        Oh, oh. A real problem. "Third Law of the Left: "No Leftist has ever legitimately lost an election." - Bowser - 1/6/2009 4:21:42 AM
        
        Try this on for size: Who was the last Democrat to steal an election? (n/t) - TB - 1/6/2009 5:00:08 AM
        
        I don't know. Kennedy did it, though. I'm hope one has done it since him. - Bowser - 1/6/2009 6:42:45 AM
        
        I'm hoping someone has done it since him. (n/t) - Bowser - 1/6/2009 6:56:38 AM
        
        That's sad commentary. - Lee - 1/6/2009 2:22:58 AM
      - You can rationalize anything, can't you? (n/t) - TB - 1/6/2009 12:55:25 AM

Sea ice update - TB - 1/6/2009 12:20:33 AM
- Australia 'destroying life on Earth' - nick hoffman - 1/6/2009 11:31:27 AM
  - That's why we dropped Skylab on you in 1979 - Socrates II - 1/6/2009 6:29:42 PM
  - Hansen - TB - 1/6/2009 6:13:09 PM
  - Too right, miiiiite. Every fair dinkum cobber and sheila knows CO2 makes plants as crook as a dingo on a Vegemite binge - The Silent Majority - 1/6/2009 12:49:40 PM

Judas withdraws his nomination amidst investigation - Buck Galaxy - 1/4/2009 8:34:37 PM
- Sad to see you so bitter. (n/t) - alcaray - 1/4/2009 11:17:07 PM
  - Huh? - Buck Galaxy - 1/4/2009 11:34:41 PM
    - I may have misinterpreted your use of the term "Judas". - alcaray - 1/4/2009 11:36:52 PM
      - "Carville makes painful prediction for 2009 ." - Bowser - 1/5/2009 1:12:55 AM
        
        Easy answer - Eri - 1/5/2009 1:14:43 AM
        
        They've been married longer than that. - Bowser - 1/5/2009 1:21:54 AM
        
        Just because someone's been married for a long time... - Eri - 1/5/2009 3:23:12 AM
      - Nice to see you around Alcaray (n/t) - Lindy - 1/5/2009 12:35:57 AM
      - I would rather see you jump in with both feet more often. (n/t) - RobVG - 1/5/2009 12:11:54 AM
        
        I agree...alcaray..you have so much to offer... - Jody - 1/5/2009 1:36:50 PM
      - re: "Judas" - TB - 1/5/2009 12:08:58 AM
        
        "devotees" - Buck Galaxy - 1/6/2009 3:45:31 AM

Israel provokes Palestinians, continues to build illegal cities on Palestinian land. - Bowser - 1/3/2009 7:00:02 PM
- "If Israel wanted peace, had any interest in peace,,," - Buck Galaxy - 1/4/2009 11:43:56 PM
  - Who wants peace? - an - 1/5/2009 6:39:08 PM
- You might want to update things a bit from 2004. - TB - 1/3/2009 7:59:02 PM
  - It's worse now. But tell me the Palestinians are the agressors again. - Bowser - 1/3/2009 8:26:55 PM
    - What I want to say - Eri - 1/3/2009 11:56:34 PM
      - Gardens in the Middle East - Raoul - 1/4/2009 4:08:17 PM
        
        No mystery. With that much American green anyone could turn anything into a garden. (n/t) - Bowser - 1/4/2009 6:56:09 PM
      - I think we need to keep the distinction between "Palestinians" and "Hamas" in mind. - TB - 1/4/2009 12:19:58 AM
- New Body Count: Israel 3 Palestinians 430 - Lindy - 1/3/2009 7:35:53 PM
- Bowser is saying the Israelis are the bad guys; and the Palestinians are the good guys. Who buys that argument? (n/t) - Jacob - 1/3/2009 7:09:42 PM
  - Stop whining. Now, would you care to counter the facts of the assertion? - Bowser - 1/3/2009 8:35:40 PM
    - I did. You ignored it. (n/t) - TB - 1/3/2009 9:33:31 PM
      - The fact that Egyptian forces fired on Gazans trying to cross the border was pretty much ignored as well. (n/t) - Lee - 1/4/2009 12:31:58 AM
        
        re: The fact that Egyptian forces fired on Gazans trying to cross the border was pretty much ignored as well. - Lindy - 1/4/2009 1:31:12 AM
        
        Huh? - Lee - 1/4/2009 3:14:31 AM
      - It was a completely bullshit reply, that's why. And defending the Israelis taking tanks, planes, artillery to a helpless people. - Bowser - 1/3/2009 10:53:49 PM
        
        Sorta like a Charleton Heston Movie? - Lindy - 1/4/2009 1:36:17 AM
        
        A helpless people? Hamas is promising to slaughter every last Israeli soldier entering Gaza. - Lee - 1/4/2009 12:48:32 AM
        
        For Lee - Lindy - 1/4/2009 11:43:35 PM
        
        re: little Johnny - TB - 1/5/2009 12:13:13 AM
        
        Wishes don't exclude helplessness (n/t) - Raoul - 1/4/2009 5:05:53 PM
        
        Hamas' wishes are what's causing this mess. - Lee - 1/4/2009 11:03:29 PM
  - So you two sanction wholesale murder? - Lindy - 1/3/2009 7:40:22 PM
    - Well. I was curious who believed his assertion....You've your position plain. (n/t) - Jacob - 1/3/2009 8:09:01 PM
    - re: So you two sanction wholesale murder? - TB - 1/3/2009 8:00:17 PM
      - THOU SHALT NOT KILL - Lindy - 1/5/2009 12:33:57 AM
  - Pretty much any "progressive" if they want to stay in the club. (n/t) - TB - 1/3/2009 7:37:40 PM
    - I guess I must not be a Progressive then. - Eri - 1/4/2009 12:00:09 AM
      - Probably not. - TB - 1/4/2009 12:47:35 AM

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