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NYT calls for America to intervene in a sovereign nation - Tom Brosz - 2/25/2004 6:47:05 PM
- Thhe NYT has a strong consistent policy of keeping the world safe for dictators - ebnelson - 2/27/2004 12:04:59 PM
- re: In defense of the French being mentioned here >shudder< . . . - D. Spires - 2/26/2004 1:34:31 AM
  - more defense of the French - phillippe - 2/26/2004 5:11:59 PM
- Guess you missed Aristide's request for intervention - Tony - 2/25/2004 10:16:47 PM
  - re: Now you're gonna make me cry . . . (n/t) - D. Spires - 2/26/2004 1:17:05 AM
    - There's that "compassionate conservatism"!! Or were you being sarcastic? (n/t) - Bowser - 2/26/2004 2:36:44 AM
      - re: Yes . . . (n/t) - D. Spires - 2/26/2004 5:43:04 PM
        
        Heh, heh. So was I. (n/t) - Bowser - 2/27/2004 4:12:53 PM
- QUAGMIRE!!! Besides, their language is incomprehensible (n/t) - phil - 2/25/2004 10:02:49 PM
- You are a caution, Tom Brosz!!! - Bowser - 2/25/2004 7:45:06 PM
  - So, how about Cuba then? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 2/25/2004 7:59:58 PM
    - Ahhhha, Cuba........... - Publius - 2/26/2004 12:24:24 AM
    - Rule # 1: Never believe your own propaganda. - Bowser - 2/25/2004 8:40:32 PM
      - So you don't believe what you write? - ebnelson - 2/26/2004 2:27:20 AM
      - What's really sad is that you probably actually believe this. - Tom Brosz - 2/25/2004 9:27:36 PM
        
        I have friends who've been to Cuba for extended periods. Now, about Haiti - - - ? (n/t) - Bowser - 2/25/2004 9:36:06 PM
      - So when will Bowser follow Rule # 1? - gbaikie - 2/25/2004 8:59:52 PM
        
        Hi there, little fella. Howya doon? (n/t) - Bowser - 2/26/2004 12:01:13 AM
    - Rule # 1: Never believe your own propaganda. - Bowser - 2/25/2004 8:38:25 PM
- re: UN - Raoul - 2/25/2004 7:26:44 PM

I may be old-fashioned, and I think the Supreme Court Justices need skirts cleaner than Cleopatras. - Bowser - 2/27/2004 4:10:38 PM

News Analysis: Bush Keeps Faith With His Base . . . - D. Spires - 2/25/2004 11:19:56 PM
- Ah, yes . . . the faith-based presidency - Fox - 2/27/2004 2:04:28 PM
- Again, look at the polls. - Tom Brosz - 2/26/2004 12:15:13 AM
  - Constitutional amendments - Donald - 2/26/2004 2:38:11 AM
    - BTW, on the subject of the Sacred Document... - Tom Brosz - 2/26/2004 6:16:10 AM
    - "most Americans" - Tom Brosz - 2/26/2004 4:45:13 AM
      - Careful interpretation and reading behind the lines. - Bowser - 2/27/2004 4:00:44 AM

Our neighbors to the north with universal health care live longer and healthier than people in the US and pay less for care. - Bowser - 2/24/2004 5:09:36 AM
- re: Our neighbors to the north--another view. - Tom Brosz - 2/26/2004 6:22:06 AM
- I can't wait - FrankC - 2/24/2004 5:14:42 PM
- Having lived under both systems... - McFly - 2/24/2004 2:32:29 PM
  - It's a Complicated Issue - Lindy - 2/25/2004 6:24:37 PM
  - re: Having lived under both systems... - Tom Brosz - 2/24/2004 7:17:24 PM
    - Natural rights - Odin - 2/25/2004 12:18:21 AM
      - re: Natural rights - Tom Brosz - 2/25/2004 1:20:55 AM
        
        re: Natural rights - Odin - 2/27/2004 4:19:55 AM
        
        Your post shows you a bit unclear on the concept. - Tom Brosz - 2/27/2004 4:40:37 AM
        
        Limiting natural rights - Odin - 2/27/2004 6:41:11 AM
- Universal health care is inevitible in the US. - David F Mayer - 2/24/2004 7:11:28 AM
  - re: Universal health care is inevitible in the US. - Daniel - 2/24/2004 8:21:36 AM
  - re: Universal health care - Tom Brosz - 2/24/2004 8:17:14 AM
- re: Our neighbors to the north - Tom Brosz - 2/24/2004 5:59:35 AM
  - "If you think health care is expensive now, wait until it's free"-- P.J. O'Rourke (n/t) - SteveS - 2/24/2004 6:50:04 PM
    - And with a few strings attached - Tom Brosz - 2/24/2004 7:24:21 PM
      - Nice to see you dont pay any attention to past posts... (n/t) - Tony - 2/25/2004 6:19:26 PM
        
        Can you be a bit more specific? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 2/25/2004 6:58:27 PM
        
        blasted missing search function......... - Tony - 2/25/2004 8:42:26 PM
        
        Experiences - Tom Brosz - 2/25/2004 9:46:14 PM
- More leftist/socialist BS - SDAI-Tech1 - 2/24/2004 5:39:28 AM
  - SDAI says "Go on and be a reactionary stooge of the mentally unstable collectivists, it's no sweat off my borgeois derriere." - Lindy - 2/25/2004 6:02:50 PM
    - Today's hat........ - Tony - 2/25/2004 9:11:15 PM

Number of Mass Layoffs Rose Sharply in January - Bowser - 2/26/2004 6:57:53 AM
- Check out the details - Tom Brosz - 2/26/2004 7:00:46 PM
  - Tom! Checking - 239,454 lost jobs, including 17,544 temps. - Bowser - 2/27/2004 4:14:18 AM
    - Graph - Tom Brosz - 2/27/2004 6:31:29 AM

UK 'spied on UN's Kofi Annan'. One of the bigger jokes. - Bowser - 2/27/2004 5:32:24 AM

Alleged aides to bin Laden face military trial by USA - David F Mayer - 2/26/2004 4:32:30 AM
- Will they get the needle or get hung? (n/t) - Gary - 2/26/2004 5:54:16 AM
  - In my humble opinion, the firing squad is appropriate for them all. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 2/27/2004 5:02:01 AM

Qaeda leader threatens US attacks . . . - D. Spires - 2/27/2004 12:30:35 AM
- Well, what is the news? They are always doing this. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 2/27/2004 1:49:39 AM

and THAT'S the good news....... - Publius - 2/26/2004 12:00:24 AM
- Strategies. - Bowser - 2/26/2004 2:27:34 AM
  - ROTFLMAO - Lindy - 2/26/2004 8:20:14 AM
    - And I really have a problem...... - Lindy - 2/26/2004 8:27:55 AM
      - "Privatizing" Social Security - shoveling it to Halliburton now! - Bowser - 2/26/2004 8:32:36 PM
        
        "Ya wonder why your Social Security won't be there?" - Tom Brosz - 2/26/2004 11:03:28 PM
        
        I'm gonna guess. - Bowser - 2/26/2004 11:21:16 PM
        
        Guessing, as in wild-assed - Tom Brosz - 2/26/2004 11:48:10 PM
        
        One thing you're not Tom, is wild. (n/t) - Bowser - 2/26/2004 11:54:47 PM

Following the Money Dept. - Tom Brosz - 2/26/2004 1:28:29 AM

Poll: Kerry has big California lead, Bush's ratings have plunged. (Way down.) - Bowser - 2/25/2004 9:22:07 PM
- re: Good thing Bush isn't running as a Dem . . . (n/t) - D. Spires - 2/25/2004 10:40:17 PM

The Village Voice accuses Kerry of a cover-up - Larry J - 2/25/2004 1:16:11 AM
- McCain and Cheney in on it too? - Tony - 2/25/2004 6:49:22 PM
- The people captured in Laos and Cambodia were left by Nixon and Kissinger. - Bowser - 2/25/2004 6:21:37 AM
  - I believe that Bowser is correct here - phil - 2/25/2004 5:54:39 PM
    - re: I believe that Bowser is correct here - gbaikie - 2/25/2004 9:35:04 PM
    - Without getting too deep. - Bowser - 2/25/2004 6:45:55 PM
  - It wasn't the first time, either - Larry J - 2/25/2004 2:36:29 PM

Union of Concerned Scientists Report Condemns Bush Administration,,, - Chris Vancil - 2/23/2004 9:37:33 PM
- I guess they think that any scientist who disagrees with them must be "unconcerned" - Larry J - 2/25/2004 1:09:49 AM
  - re: Based on What? They are concerned what would you call yourself if you were? BTW lame rationalization of your views. Show us one scientist with an opposing views. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 2/25/2004 7:43:16 AM
- re: Science twarted - Raoul - 2/24/2004 6:48:40 AM
  - The article makes it's point......... - Lindy - 2/24/2004 4:49:25 PM
- Additional material - S - 2/24/2004 3:03:54 AM
  - re: Tom, Larry and others will not get the point. They prefer to hand wave away the Bush Whitehouse "use" of science... Bush is amoral and so are those he choses to work with. They will do anything s… (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 2/24/2004 9:00:09 PM
    - Sounds like you're projecting to me (n/t) - Larry J - 2/25/2004 1:07:09 AM
      - re: No pushing you into the dialog. Come on where is the League of Unconcerned Science when you need them. 8-) (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 2/25/2004 7:48:50 AM
        
        Come on where is the League of Unconcerned Science when you need them. 8-) - gbaikie - 2/25/2004 8:44:03 PM
- This Administration would have jailed Galileo. - Bowser - 2/23/2004 11:38:19 PM
  - re: Oh, no doubt at all . . . - D. Spires - 2/24/2004 12:35:29 AM
    - re: Oh, no doubt at all . . . - Tom Brosz - 2/24/2004 3:48:14 AM
      - re: Oh, no doubt at all . . . - Bowser - 2/24/2004 3:59:53 AM
    - Howdy, Dan. Nice to read you. (n/t) - Bowser - 2/24/2004 1:04:26 AM

Hypocrit George Paid for an Abortion - Lindy - 2/23/2004 8:14:23 PM
- I forget: Is this lie older or newer than the AWOL lie? - ebnelson - 2/25/2004 3:56:41 AM
- The Supreme Court Decision on "Roe versus Wade" was correct. - David F Mayer - 2/23/2004 11:07:26 PM
- HA! Told ya so! Would have bet money Lindy would be the first to uncork it here. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 2/23/2004 9:59:49 PM
  - Guess Lindy didn't see your hint a couple of days ago - Tony - 2/24/2004 12:43:23 PM
    - It's early yet. - Tom Brosz - 2/24/2004 7:38:25 PM
      - It's early yet? - Tony - 2/25/2004 4:12:32 PM
        
        If you were paying attention... - Tom Brosz - 2/25/2004 6:09:46 PM
        
        When is a rail not a rail? - Tony - 2/25/2004 6:39:41 PM
        
        re: When is a rail not a rail? - Tom Brosz - 2/25/2004 7:11:59 PM
- Here's the Story - Lindy - 2/23/2004 8:39:19 PM
  - re: Ancient history . . . - D. Spires - 2/23/2004 9:34:10 PM
    - Who really cares? - Lindy - 2/24/2004 4:28:41 AM
      - re: "He says one thing and means another" . . . - D. Spires - 2/24/2004 7:21:18 PM
        
        re: "He says one thing and means another" . . . - Odin - 2/24/2004 10:28:19 PM
        
        "Once again in Lindyland......" - Lindy - 2/24/2004 9:25:40 PM
        
        re: Sorry for the misunderstanding . . . - D. Spires - 2/25/2004 1:15:31 AM
        
        You two win the most human exchange of the week award - SDAI-Tech1 - 2/25/2004 8:01:33 PM

Pentagon report warns climate change may bring famine, war - John - 2/23/2004 12:54:18 PM
- Russia's Emergency Situations Ministry predicts major cataclysms in 2004 - John - 2/23/2004 7:24:29 PM
- Good grief! What a shocker. Is it accurate/reliable ? (n/t) - Daniel - 2/23/2004 3:18:22 PM
  - re: Good grief! What a shocker. Is it accurate/reliable ? - John - 2/23/2004 4:38:57 PM
- It was written for the Pentagon by an outfit called "Global Business Network" - Larry J - 2/23/2004 3:03:42 PM
  - whew .. - Daniel - 2/23/2004 3:30:51 PM
  - I'm confused - Tony - 2/23/2004 3:27:38 PM
    - Yes, you are confused - Larry J - 2/23/2004 3:55:47 PM
      - As for the rest.... - Tony - 2/23/2004 4:48:07 PM
        
        As H.L. Mencken pointed out... - Larry J - 2/23/2004 8:14:56 PM
        
        "I'll let Tom weigh in here..." - Tom Brosz - 2/23/2004 5:02:20 PM
        
        re: "I'll let Tom weigh in here..." - Davin L. - 2/23/2004 11:57:00 PM
        
        P.S. - Tom Brosz - 2/24/2004 5:18:39 AM
        
        re: P.S. - Davin L. - 2/24/2004 6:12:46 AM
        
        Good post - Tom Brosz - 2/24/2004 5:08:42 AM
        
        re: Good post - Davin L. - 2/24/2004 6:26:29 AM
        
        "Reasonable controls" on pollution that don't touch China are political and anti-Western. - Tom Brosz - 2/24/2004 7:12:34 AM
        
        re: "I'll let Tom weigh in here..." - SDAI-Tech1 - 2/24/2004 2:11:16 AM
        
        re: "I'll let Tom weigh in here..." - Davin L. - 2/24/2004 2:35:55 AM
        
        re: "I'll let Tom weigh in here..." - SDAI-Tech1 - 2/24/2004 7:09:51 AM
        
        re: "I'll let Tom weigh in here..." - Davin L. - 2/25/2004 6:03:13 PM
        
        A couple of comments... - Tom Brosz - 2/25/2004 7:33:46 PM
        
        Hint: - Tony - 2/24/2004 5:51:54 PM
        
        re: Hint: - SDAI-Tech1 - 2/24/2004 6:30:34 PM
        
        Gee, what to do with all this rope you have given me! - Davin L. - 2/24/2004 4:45:42 PM
      - Picture a boat - Tony - 2/23/2004 4:35:33 PM

Do as we say, not as we do. - Tom Brosz - 2/24/2004 7:00:06 AM
- funny- I was told when protesting bush Sr that i might get shot... - R.L. - 2/24/2004 4:34:55 PM
  - Cute. Good for you. (n/t) - Bowser - 2/25/2004 4:39:47 AM
  - Yes, let's just skip over the lefties shutting down speakers at Universities if they don't approve. - ebnelson - 2/25/2004 3:52:13 AM
  - *sigh.* Did the hypocrisy point sail over everyone else's head too? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 2/24/2004 6:49:19 PM
    - apparently the point went right over your head - R.L. - 2/24/2004 9:59:07 PM
      - "guess which side resorts to violence to quiet the opposition?" - Tom Brosz - 2/24/2004 11:41:30 PM
        
        hey, Tom cant read..... - R.L. - 2/25/2004 8:57:20 AM
        
        Speaking of Nader... - Tom Brosz - 2/25/2004 6:01:36 PM
        
        LOL! (n/t) - SDT1 - 2/25/2004 6:29:04 AM
  - Thanks for the story RL........ - Lindy - 2/24/2004 5:05:36 PM
    - Lol no courage needed- - R.L. - 2/24/2004 6:26:50 PM

An interview in Iraq - Tom Brosz - 2/22/2004 2:50:56 AM
- re: An interview in Iraq - Davin L. - 2/22/2004 6:37:43 AM
  - re: An interview in Iraq - Tom Brosz - 2/22/2004 6:58:39 AM
    - I refer the Honourable Gentleman - Tony - 2/23/2004 2:53:30 PM
    - Red Herring, Tom - Davin L. - 2/22/2004 8:43:23 PM
      - re: Red Herring - Tom Brosz - 2/22/2004 9:30:29 PM
        
        Not exactly apples and oranges here Tom....... - Lindy - 2/23/2004 5:07:01 AM
        
        My god, Tom- this is pointless. - Davin L. - 2/22/2004 11:42:23 PM
        
        Davin's correct, you know. - Mary Anne - 2/23/2004 3:54:03 AM
        
        re: Davin's correct, you know. - Tom Brosz - 2/23/2004 5:19:49 AM
        
        I read it with interest. - Mary Anne - 2/23/2004 1:46:24 PM
        
        Also of interest - S - 2/24/2004 4:13:37 AM
        
        re: I read it with interest. - gbaikie - 2/23/2004 8:47:42 PM
        
        Journalism 101: to someone who probably won't get it. - Mary Anne - 2/24/2004 1:46:30 PM
        
        re: Journalism 101: to someone who probably won't get it. - gbaikie - 2/25/2004 1:24:45 AM
        
        "Describing how to sell a newspaper": that's why the newspapers are in business - Mary Anne - 2/25/2004 1:23:20 PM
- re: An interview in Iraq - gbaikie - 2/22/2004 4:29:09 AM
- re: An interview in Iraq - Bowser - 2/22/2004 3:31:09 AM
  - Q.E.D. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 2/22/2004 4:17:43 AM
    - Dear Ol' Mom. - Bowser - 2/22/2004 9:12:04 PM

Comedians view of US election. - Bowser - 2/24/2004 2:57:57 AM
- Laugh it up, furball (n/t) - gbaikie - 2/25/2004 12:37:17 AM
- Priceless, thanks (n/t) - Lindy - 2/24/2004 5:09:58 PM

what island nation lies to the east of North Korea? (n/t) - ME - 2/24/2004 7:24:20 PM
- Look at this map for the answer. - David F Mayer - 2/24/2004 11:27:20 PM

Off Target & Stillborn . . . - D. Spires - 2/24/2004 8:37:37 PM
- re: It's a three-page article . . . - D. Spires - 2/24/2004 8:41:11 PM

Survey: Anger Toward Bush Intensifying . . . - D. Spires - 2/23/2004 7:50:20 PM
- They hate GWB because he is doing a competent job as president. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 2/23/2004 11:09:15 PM
  - They hate GWB because he is doing a competent job as president. (n/t) - YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING !! - 2/24/2004 4:54:45 PM
- BDS "Bush Derangement Syndrome" - Tom Brosz - 2/23/2004 8:07:16 PM
  - re: In the early '70s, I thought everyone hated Nader . . . - D. Spires - 2/23/2004 9:27:35 PM

NYT - "In the New Economics: Fast-Food Factories?" - Bowser - 2/20/2004 9:45:36 PM
- The cruel core of compassionate conservatism. - Bowser - 2/21/2004 3:45:34 AM
  - You should be ashamed to sign your name to such silliness - ebnelson - 2/23/2004 3:04:05 AM
  - re: The cruel core - Tom Brosz - 2/21/2004 11:38:52 PM
    - Again, the cruel core. - Bowser - 2/22/2004 12:37:47 AM
      - Wow...almost heard the choir in the background on that one. - Tom Brosz - 2/22/2004 5:49:38 AM
- Jobs are jobs. - Tom Brosz - 2/20/2004 10:19:27 PM
  - "Does it pay enough" for what? - Mary Anne - 2/22/2004 5:31:55 PM
    - Insurance - Tom Brosz - 2/24/2004 8:05:00 AM
  - One thing for sure - FrankC - 2/21/2004 2:03:28 AM
    - re: One thing for sure - gbaikie - 2/21/2004 4:37:07 AM
      - Thank you for pointing out that Clinton cut taxes and did a welfare reform. - Mary Anne - 2/22/2004 5:27:11 PM
        
        re: Thank you for pointing out that Clinton cut taxes and did a welfare reform. - gbaikie - 2/23/2004 2:05:56 AM
        
        The only reason not to line all the Democrats up against a wall and shoot 'em is that you'd have to find someone else to blame when the Republicans screw up. - Mary Anne - 2/23/2004 3:18:43 AM
        
        re: The only reason not to line all the Democrats up against a wall and shoot 'em is that you'd have to find someone else to blame when the Republicans screw up. - gbaikie - 2/23/2004 10:49:45 AM
  - "You are such a caution, Tom Brosz", he said slapping his thigh. (n/t) - Bowser - 2/20/2004 11:18:25 PM

What is being "handed over" to the Iraqis on June 30? - Bowser - 2/19/2004 4:39:56 PM
- Sovereignty - Buck Galaxy - 2/20/2004 4:08:48 PM
  - The bottom line... - Tom Brosz - 2/20/2004 11:55:34 PM
    - Thank you. - Mary Anne - 2/22/2004 4:08:27 PM
- Civil War (n/t) - J~S - 2/20/2004 3:39:10 AM
- "handed over" or passed off?...... - Publius - 2/20/2004 2:37:18 AM
  - C'mon Pub....why should the SUV's show up on the lots... - SDAI-Tech1 - 2/20/2004 6:49:29 AM
    - re: SUVs - Mary Anne - 2/20/2004 8:02:42 PM
      - Chuckle. - Bowser - 2/20/2004 8:58:18 PM
        
        Tips for a n00b? - Fox - 2/21/2004 10:32:03 PM
        
        nOOb? Cute. Sure, head over to Community (n/t) - Bowser - 2/21/2004 11:38:16 PM
        
        SUV's...the American Way - Lindy - 2/21/2004 6:59:32 AM
        
        "Fuel Consumption wasn't a Consideration" (SUV owner) - Lindy - 2/23/2004 6:02:26 PM
        
        re: SUV's...the American Way - Tom Brosz - 2/21/2004 11:47:56 PM
        
        Americans buy things we can't afford all the time! - Mary Anne - 2/22/2004 4:05:39 PM
        
        re: Americans buy things - Tom Brosz - 2/22/2004 10:00:35 PM
        
        Testimony of Dan Iannicola, Jr. - Mary Anne - 2/23/2004 3:03:47 AM
        
        Good information. Some more background. - Tom Brosz - 2/24/2004 7:44:15 AM
        
        re: SUV's...the American Way - Bowser - 2/21/2004 3:02:56 PM

Another perspective on the OBL trap. - Bowser - 2/24/2004 2:19:37 AM
- Another announcement that is extremely premature. - David F Mayer - 2/24/2004 7:13:55 AM
- The link. - Bowser - 2/24/2004 3:55:55 AM
- re: Another perspective on the OBL trap. - Tom Brosz - 2/24/2004 3:45:49 AM

They see terrorists everywhere. - Bowser - 2/24/2004 2:43:25 AM
- Did you read the article and his remarks or are you... - SDAI-Tech1 - 2/24/2004 5:51:37 AM

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