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Bush didn't read assessment - Don - 7/19/2003 1:28:21 PM
- re: Assessment - Tom Brosz - 7/19/2003 8:15:12 PM
  - But the point is... - Don - 7/19/2003 9:36:23 PM
- I thought this was particularly disgusting - Robert - 7/19/2003 2:37:16 PM
  - Exactly - Don - 7/19/2003 2:57:46 PM
- Meanwhile: Another U.S. soldier killed in Iraq - Don - 7/19/2003 1:31:50 PM
  - Exhausted troops yearn for home - Don - 7/19/2003 1:35:22 PM
    - re: Morale non-existant - Raoul - 7/19/2003 6:15:29 PM
    - In the meantime Iran & North Korea develop nuclear weapons - Don - 7/19/2003 1:42:20 PM
      - So, if you were President, what would YOU do about it? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 7/19/2003 9:17:51 PM
        
        Well, first... - Don - 7/19/2003 9:49:47 PM
        
        Very Good Don! - Lindy - 7/20/2003 6:58:36 AM
        
        re: Very Good Don! - Tom Brosz - 7/20/2003 7:35:58 AM
      - And the good news is... - Don - 7/19/2003 3:56:27 PM

Letter from Iraq - Tom Brosz - 7/20/2003 6:45:44 AM

North Korea moves artillery closer to South Korean border - David F Mayer - 7/20/2003 5:35:06 AM

Offshore Wind farms are bad for fish - Scott Evil - 7/17/2003 3:13:20 PM
- Anything that interferes with the gross overfishing of the world's oceans is a positive side-effect. We need LESS fishing so that the depleted fish stocks can recover. NT (n/t) - David F Mayer - 7/20/2003 5:02:40 AM
- The article implies the windmills would be bad for fishermen, not the fish - Larry J - 7/17/2003 3:47:10 PM

It's hard to believe the charges against Kobe Bryant - Matt Burley - 7/19/2003 5:02:41 AM
- The moth flew too close to the flame. His goose is cooked. (n/t) - Joe - 7/19/2003 5:34:39 AM
  - Question is whether she's the victim of an assault or just another gold diggin' ho - Matt Burley - 7/20/2003 1:18:22 AM

North Korea may have previously unknown second nuclear site - Tom Brosz - 7/19/2003 10:51:00 PM
- This is actually the third site for nuke weapons - ebnelson - 7/20/2003 1:07:49 AM

The U.N. view on WMD as of January 2003 - Tom Brosz - 7/19/2003 7:50:17 AM
- re: The U.N. view on WMD as of January 2003 - Don - 7/19/2003 3:23:59 PM
  - re: The U.N. view - Tom Brosz - 7/19/2003 9:11:44 PM

to Mark Eby - Davin L. - 7/19/2003 6:28:15 PM
- Reasonable Minds - Don - 7/19/2003 7:41:54 PM

Poll of Iraqis - Tom Brosz - 7/17/2003 7:08:23 PM
- Keep in mind that's a Baghdad poll, not an Iraqi poll - Matt Burley - 7/18/2003 1:25:40 AM
  - Good Point, Would Support Importance of Power Issue If Corrrect (n/t) - Mark Eby - 7/18/2003 2:30:26 AM
- re: Poll of Iraqis - Davin L. - 7/17/2003 9:09:06 PM
  - The Short Answer - Mark Eby - 7/17/2003 11:59:25 PM
  - It's Pretty Hard To Miss The Posituve - Mark Eby - 7/17/2003 11:56:57 PM
    - re: It's Pretty Hard To Miss The Posituve - Davin L. - 7/18/2003 2:43:50 AM
      - Your Comments Were Already Addressed - Mark Eby - 7/18/2003 4:56:18 AM
        
        Cute handwave and ad-hominem, but sorry- no dice. - Davin L. - 7/18/2003 4:54:19 PM
        
        Real Simple - Mark Eby - 7/19/2003 4:09:22 AM
        
        and BTW - Daven L. - 7/19/2003 5:02:42 AM
        
        re: Real Simple - Davin L. - 7/19/2003 4:59:39 AM
        
        You Are Mighty Forgetful & That's The Generous Interpretation - Mark Eby - 7/19/2003 2:15:07 PM
        
        An apology, and I reminder that I supported bush up until this issue - Davin L - 7/19/2003 5:43:05 PM
  - re: Poll of Iraqis - Tom Brosz - 7/17/2003 11:31:56 PM
    - re: Poll of Iraqis - Davin L. - 7/18/2003 2:37:49 AM
      - Another factor to consider... - Tom Brosz - 7/18/2003 3:57:06 AM
        
        re: Another factor to consider... - Davin L. - 7/18/2003 4:06:43 AM
- At the risk of.. - FrankC - 7/17/2003 7:57:27 PM
  - re: At the risk of.. - Todd - 7/18/2003 1:44:51 AM
  - re: Old equipment, looting and sabotage. - Marcia - 7/17/2003 9:32:55 PM
    - I'm With You Frank - Mark Eby - 7/17/2003 11:36:58 PM
    - Yes, it is a big problem - FrankC - 7/17/2003 10:23:00 PM
      - re: Yes, it is a big problem - Marcia - 7/18/2003 12:21:33 AM

Hitchens on Iraq - Tom Brosz - 7/18/2003 4:02:45 AM
- The Answer Is Davin & Don (n/t) - Mark Eby - 7/18/2003 4:48:31 AM
  - Oooh! Witty AND quick! Wow, I better just leave with my tail between my legs... (n/t) - Davin L. - 7/18/2003 4:46:31 PM
- Critical thinking 101... - Davin L. - 7/18/2003 4:21:18 AM
  - Post WWII occupations - ebnelson - 7/18/2003 4:49:30 AM
    - another "bu-bu-but-mommy-they-did-it-too" argument from the right - Davin L. - 7/18/2003 4:49:58 PM
      - No, just dodging from the left. - ebnelson - 7/19/2003 3:53:27 AM
        
        Wait a second there, sparky... - Davin L. - 7/19/2003 5:28:17 PM
      - mommy-they-did-it-too - FrankC - 7/18/2003 5:56:59 PM
        
        Refinine BS and you get... - Davin L. - 7/18/2003 6:31:38 PM
        
        Why the hell is it so hard to get this point across? - Tom Brosz - 7/18/2003 7:02:43 PM
        
        Yeah, why IS it so hard to get tis point accross? - Davin L. - 7/18/2003 7:35:48 PM
        
        Challenge...almost forgot the U.N. - Tom Brosz - 7/19/2003 7:52:39 AM
        
        re: Challenge...almost forgot the U.N. - Davin L. - 7/19/2003 5:25:28 PM
        
        re: Yeah, why IS it so hard to get tis point accross? - Tom Brosz - 7/18/2003 9:13:53 PM
        
        re: Yeah, why IS it so hard to get tis point accross? - Davin L. - 7/18/2003 9:29:09 PM
        
        Since you admittedly have not had access to the intelligence reports... - Larry J - 7/18/2003 8:00:30 PM
        
        re: Since you admittedly have not had access to the intelligence reports... - Davin L. - 7/18/2003 8:37:04 PM
        
        Why don't you read the October 2002 CIA report yourself... - Larry J - 7/18/2003 8:58:18 PM
        
        re: Why don't you read the October 2002 CIA report yourself... - Davin L. - 7/18/2003 9:20:37 PM

U.S. may be forced to turn to U.N - Don - 7/19/2003 3:43:32 PM

More on Kelly - Tom Brosz - 7/19/2003 4:29:32 AM

Iraq and terrorism - Tom Brosz - 7/16/2003 8:21:29 PM
- Gee...I really thought that this would get a response - Tom Brosz - 7/18/2003 6:01:36 AM
  - Can't remember where I read it - Eri - 7/19/2003 4:22:11 AM

North Korea Warns US: We Can Produce Six Atom Bombs . . . - D. Spires - 7/16/2003 11:13:57 PM
- No one has control of this situation - Eri - 7/17/2003 3:59:17 AM
  - re: So now we should negotiate with terror threats . . . - D. Spires - 7/17/2003 6:44:21 PM
    - No, we should never negotiate with terror threats - Eri - 7/18/2003 1:37:09 AM
      - re: Hardly . . . - D. Spires - 7/18/2003 3:05:34 AM
        
        I don't disagree - Eri - 7/18/2003 3:15:18 AM
        
        re: 20/20 mentality . . . - D. Spires - 7/19/2003 4:10:26 AM
    - That seems to be the administrations approach to N Korea. - alcaray - 7/17/2003 11:09:49 PM
      - re: No . . . - D. Spires - 7/17/2003 11:24:32 PM

Beyond the 16 words - "a campaign of deceit" - Splinx - 7/18/2003 4:54:33 PM
- Meanwhile... - Don - 7/18/2003 10:21:50 PM
  - And the price tag rises - Don - 7/18/2003 10:27:21 PM
- Speaking of "a campaign of deceit" - Larry J - 7/18/2003 6:55:22 PM
  - "Why isnâ€™t it merely a good-faith mistake? " - Tony - 7/18/2003 8:19:27 PM
    - re: White House aide pushed for it over the CIA aide's objections . . . - D. Spires - 7/18/2003 9:38:11 PM
    - Try reading the October 2002 CIA report - Larry J - 7/18/2003 9:08:25 PM
      - And I hope you noted that the report - Tony - 7/18/2003 9:26:15 PM
        
        re: A nuke program in stasis remains an active nuke program . . . - D. Spires - 7/18/2003 9:43:48 PM

I am not a fan of guns on airplanes... - alcaray - 7/17/2003 4:42:41 PM
- On that subject, turn up your speakers and... - Larry J - 7/18/2003 1:51:13 PM
  - I surely appreciate the need for maximum security on airplanes - alcaray - 7/18/2003 7:42:00 PM
    - Your concerns are easily addressed - Larry J - 7/18/2003 8:48:12 PM
- Woops! You got me, Tom! (n/t) - alcaray - 7/17/2003 4:45:36 PM
  - How did you DO that? - Tom Brosz - 7/17/2003 6:45:19 PM
    - Simple - alcaray - 7/17/2003 10:54:57 PM

Something to remember - R.L. - 7/18/2003 7:59:13 PM

Bad news -- good news - alcaray - 7/16/2003 11:06:47 PM
- So, it's all the tax cuts? - Tom Brosz - 7/17/2003 12:38:35 AM
  - Wha??? Who said it was all tax cuts? (n/t) - alcaray - 7/17/2003 3:41:46 PM
    - The Democrats in the linked article. Lieberman, specifically. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 7/17/2003 6:58:40 PM
      - re: The Democrats in the linked article. Lieberman, specifically. - alcaray - 7/17/2003 11:06:27 PM
        
        re: California - Tom Brosz - 7/18/2003 4:27:49 AM
        
        re: "California Democrats insist we cannot cut the budget even slightly". Have you looked at the two budgets that have been proposed? Try again. (n/t) - alcaray - 7/18/2003 7:46:27 PM
  - According to Uncle Alan, the economy should grow at 3.5% in the 4th quarter - Scott Evil - 7/17/2003 3:35:48 PM
  - Blame it on the Government - Eri - 7/17/2003 4:06:55 AM

Dr Kelly - Raoul - 7/18/2003 11:12:43 AM
- Conspiracy nuts will have a field day with this one - Tom Brosz - 7/18/2003 6:20:11 PM
- How many Micks must die at Brit hands? When will the cycle of violence end? (n/t) - p Mom's maiden name Fitzgerald - 7/18/2003 2:16:32 PM

First decision of the newly elected Belgian Government - Raoul - 7/13/2003 10:18:32 AM
- re: newly elected Belgian Government - Tom Brosz - 7/13/2003 6:15:20 PM
  - re: lack of perception - Mary Anne - 7/13/2003 7:50:26 PM
    - re: lack of perception - Tom Brosz - 7/13/2003 9:31:01 PM
      - Tom's button is deeply pressed - Tony - 7/14/2003 8:10:21 PM
      - re: lack of perception - SDG - 7/14/2003 7:52:25 PM
        
        It's a tough issue - Larry J - 7/14/2003 9:04:56 PM
      - re: lack of perception, on your part Tom - RNE - 7/14/2003 4:49:21 AM
        
        re: lack of perception on your part Tom - Tom Brosz - 7/14/2003 8:05:30 AM
        
        Statistics and anecdotes - Fox - 7/14/2003 9:04:12 PM
        
        re: Statistics and anecdotes - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2003 4:40:12 AM
        
        Compassionate Conservative is an Oxymoron - Eri - 7/14/2003 6:17:16 PM
        
        re: Compassionate Conservative is an Oxymoron - Tom Brosz - 7/14/2003 7:45:51 PM
        
        re: Compassionate Conservative is an Oxymoron - Eri - 7/14/2003 10:07:25 PM
        
        Great quote! - alcaray - 7/14/2003 11:43:12 PM
        
        re: Great quote! - Eri - 7/15/2003 3:26:28 AM
      - I didn't mention single mothers. - Mary Anne - 7/13/2003 10:17:24 PM
        
        Entitlement mentality - Tom Brosz - 7/14/2003 1:05:57 AM
  - re: newly elected Belgian Government - Raoul - 7/13/2003 7:35:18 PM
    - True conservatives never compromise - Robert - 7/13/2003 8:02:25 PM
      - re: True conservatives never compromise - Tom Brosz - 7/13/2003 9:38:34 PM
        
        re: True conservatives never compromise - Robert - 7/14/2003 5:10:27 PM
        
        re: True conservatives never compromise - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2003 4:11:34 AM
        
        re: True conservatives never compromise - Robert - 7/15/2003 4:39:34 AM
        
        Liberals and compromise - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2003 4:46:07 AM
        
        Tom has a point, Robert - Mary Anne - 7/13/2003 10:44:42 PM
        
        Ever hear of "Yellow Dog Democrats"? - Larry J - 7/14/2003 5:10:06 PM
        
        Yup - Mary Anne - 7/15/2003 3:14:22 AM
        
        Wrong again - Larry J - 7/15/2003 1:50:35 PM
        
        I'll bookmark this one - Mary Anne - 7/16/2003 12:50:57 PM
        
        Please do bookmark it - Larry J - 7/16/2003 4:34:04 PM
        
        re: Please do bookmark it - Mary Anne - 7/17/2003 4:13:53 AM
        
        The Democrat Party still exists in the South - Larry J - 7/17/2003 2:36:45 PM
        
        Formatting - Mary Anne - 7/18/2003 4:18:20 PM
        
        Maybe MaryAnne referred to - alcaray - 7/16/2003 11:58:07 PM
        
        re: Yup - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2003 4:58:36 AM
        
        re: Tom has a point, Robert - gbaikie - 7/14/2003 12:34:29 AM
        
        On a white horse... - Tom Brosz - 7/14/2003 1:20:54 AM
        
        re: Jesus in a grey flannel suit - Mary Anne - 7/14/2003 1:07:05 AM
      - re: Liberalism - Raoul - 7/13/2003 9:19:32 PM

BBC's integrity again called into question - p - 7/18/2003 2:31:30 PM

The 16 words - a study in deception - Splinx - 7/17/2003 7:57:03 PM
- re: The 16 words - a study in deception - Tom Brosz - 7/17/2003 11:14:32 PM
  - Well put, Tom. - REB - 7/18/2003 11:05:14 AM
- Africa is a big place... - Larry J - 7/17/2003 8:14:24 PM
- re: The 16 words - a study in 'retraction' . . . (n/t) (n/t) - D. Spires - 7/17/2003 8:03:56 PM
  - 8 words...if only it were that easy. - Robert - 7/17/2003 9:44:58 PM
    - re: Writing your own dictionary is not a retraction . . . - D. Spires - 7/17/2003 9:50:19 PM

Saddam's Plan B? - Tom Brosz - 7/18/2003 7:49:51 AM

Tony Blair's speech - Tom Brosz - 7/18/2003 7:40:08 AM

Unhappy soldiers - Tom Brosz - 7/16/2003 8:36:27 PM
- re: Unhappy soldiers - Justin Kelly - 7/18/2003 7:14:41 AM
- Of course they're unhappy - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/17/2003 12:16:18 AM
  - re: It's a soldier's duty to gripe . . . - D. Spires - 7/17/2003 12:40:23 AM
    - They have a lot to gripe about - Larry J - 7/17/2003 2:59:57 AM
      - re: They have a lot to gripe about - Tom Brosz - 7/17/2003 4:44:22 AM
        
        re: They say familiarity breeds contempt . . . - D. Spires - 7/17/2003 6:41:48 PM
        
        Some of them might get in trouble - Larry J - 7/17/2003 1:47:45 PM
        
        re: Some of them might get in trouble - Tom Brosz - 7/17/2003 11:35:57 PM

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