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Has anyone seen this? - Lee - 8/8/2009 11:06:04 PM
- Lee you're wasting your time. - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/10/2009 12:13:27 AM
- You need to post this on Flame so we can respond. - Eri - 8/8/2009 11:28:46 PM
  - I said many, not all. - Lee - 8/9/2009 1:16:08 AM

Curtains for Mehsud? - Buck Galaxy - 8/7/2009 3:37:27 AM
- Top Two Tailban Thugs Kill Each Other at Meeting on Succession. - David F Mayer - 8/9/2009 12:02:54 PM
  - If I were a top Taliban thug... - ER - 8/9/2009 8:00:14 PM
  - It probably didn't happen. - Lee - 8/9/2009 12:47:56 PM
    - It will take a couple of days to know for sure. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 8/9/2009 1:11:19 PM
- I think it was confirmed today. - Eri - 8/8/2009 5:29:53 AM
- The shift in focus, resources away from Iraq and towards Afghan.,Pak. is beginning to pay dividends (n/t) - z - 8/7/2009 4:04:27 AM

I ask for opinions please.... - Jody - 8/6/2009 2:35:03 AM
- Paranoid schizophrenia by displace lumpen prole - E.P. - 8/8/2009 7:46:50 PM
- Remember that the "crazy talk" starts with the phrase: "Any and all uses of this system..." - alcaray - 8/8/2009 12:35:07 AM
- The language is certainly intimidating - FrankC - 8/6/2009 7:24:25 AM
- Beck is an idiot. This website is for car dealers, not the consumers - z - 8/6/2009 2:53:49 AM
  - You're probably right. - Eri - 8/7/2009 1:16:16 AM

EMP attack details - TB - 7/20/2009 4:59:03 PM
- EMP ATTACK DETAILS--CERTIFIED ORIGINAL NUT-FREE SOURCE LINK - TB - 7/27/2009 2:41:38 AM
- Possible Problem with Source - David F Mayer - 7/27/2009 1:12:35 AM
  - Cripes. - TB - 7/27/2009 2:38:40 AM
- Enhanced EMP weapons could cause much electronic confusion. - David F Mayer - 7/27/2009 1:08:20 AM
- EMP's occur naturally - Eric - 7/21/2009 12:39:18 AM
  - re: EMP's occur naturally - Lindy - 7/21/2009 12:42:47 AM
- re: EMP attack - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/21/2009 12:21:53 AM
  - re: EMP attack - Lindy - 7/21/2009 12:40:09 AM
    - ;-) - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/21/2009 1:50:52 AM
      - Co-ops - Lindy - 7/21/2009 6:14:47 PM
- Source is.... opinionated (i.e., conspiracy wacko) - dtb - 7/20/2009 7:27:53 PM
  - Where do you see that William Forstchen is any of those things? - TB - 7/20/2009 7:44:50 PM
    - blind links - dtb - 7/20/2009 8:09:31 PM
      - re: blind links - TB - 7/20/2009 10:22:48 PM
- I find this discussion on Space/Science relevant to this. - Ero - 7/20/2009 7:15:02 PM
  - Mmmm. I mistyped my name. (n/t) - Eri (not Ero) - 7/20/2009 7:15:45 PM
- Well, that's scary as hell. - Eri - 7/20/2009 7:00:58 PM
  - re: Well, that's scary as hell. - bve2tr - 8/8/2009 12:19:42 AM
  - What?..that you can't spell your name? - Jody - 7/20/2009 10:43:33 PM
    - That, too! (n/t) - Eri - 7/20/2009 11:49:57 PM
- Brought this up AT COUNCIL MEETING - carl - 7/20/2009 5:42:38 PM

SOVIETS Nuke subs Patrol East Coast - carl - 8/5/2009 2:13:29 PM
- HUH? The Soviet Union NO LONGER EXISTS! (n/t) - David F Mayer - 8/7/2009 11:36:29 PM
- New RIDE at DISNEY WORD - carl - 8/6/2009 2:08:12 PM
- Freedom of the Seas is an established principle. - ER - 8/5/2009 2:42:36 PM
  - Hide? Particularly if you're very, very quiet. (n/t) - Eri - 8/5/2009 2:44:47 PM
    - SSSSSHHHHHH, you'll blow their Location - carl - 8/5/2009 4:08:30 PM
      - They should stop at a US port. - Vladmir Imposter - 8/5/2009 11:22:02 PM
        
        COMMIES of the CARRIBEAN!!!!! - carl - 8/6/2009 7:43:09 PM
      - tippy-toeing (n/t) - Eri - 8/5/2009 6:33:26 PM

North Korea weapons tests on children - TB - 7/24/2009 9:33:44 PM
- Specifically: handicapped and mentally ill children - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/24/2009 10:26:29 PM
  - Socialism and Communism are similar in the essential policy of State Supremacy. - David F Mayer - 7/27/2009 1:02:06 AM
    - You sound like someone that is taking it personally... - FrankC - 8/1/2009 1:21:56 AM
    - Horseshit. - TB - 7/27/2009 5:12:57 AM
      - Yes, I am free to say what I want. But my input is insignificant. - David F Mayer - 7/28/2009 12:35:57 AM
      - Thats' Because You're Confusing The Impacts of Capitalism With Those of Democracy - Marsby - 7/27/2009 5:18:43 PM
        
        re: Capitalism - TB - 7/27/2009 5:46:37 PM
        
        I disagree. - David F Mayer - 7/28/2009 2:50:00 AM
        
        re: I disagree. - DR - 8/7/2009 6:55:39 PM
        
        re: I disagree. - TB - 7/28/2009 4:05:26 AM
        
        The largest drug companies spend more on executive bonuses than on research. - David F Mayer - 7/28/2009 1:25:58 PM
        
        No. They don't. - TB - 7/28/2009 4:03:50 PM
        
        I did some homework. Here is what Pfizer says officially. - David F Mayer - 7/30/2009 8:59:54 PM
        
        Administration - TB - 7/31/2009 2:27:06 AM
        
        It is interesting... - TB - 7/31/2009 4:08:00 AM
        
        I don't believe it. Please post some sources to back up your statements. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 7/29/2009 12:36:07 AM
        
        You've got to be kidding. (n/t) - TB - 7/29/2009 1:44:41 AM
        
        Rereading your post, I note the following non-sequitur. - David F Mayer - 7/29/2009 10:31:01 PM
        
        re: non-sequitur - TB - 7/29/2009 10:53:00 PM
        
        You are correct. I must research that company. Back later with the results. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 7/30/2009 12:08:35 AM
        
        There is a big difference. - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/28/2009 3:56:38 AM
        
        Economic freedom is being abused. New regulation is needed. And I don't buy the "tiny fraction" either. - David F Mayer - 7/28/2009 1:20:38 PM

Bill Clinton brings two more women home. - z - 8/5/2009 12:02:53 AM
- The NKs lost this round - ER - 8/5/2009 2:23:50 PM
  - Media EVENT, FOB Financed Junket to NK - carl - 8/6/2009 2:30:06 PM
    - Drivel - Buck Galaxy - 8/6/2009 6:21:51 PM
      - VAST BIZ NETWORK HERE.......... - carl - 8/7/2009 2:21:02 PM
        
        LOL @ you. - Buck Galaxy - 8/7/2009 3:32:21 PM
        
        Duhh, would they DECLARE IT in Customs? - carl - 8/7/2009 5:49:58 PM
        
        Duhh, would they DECLARE IT in Customs? - carl - 8/7/2009 5:49:49 PM
- Yeeeeeeee-HAWWWWWWWWWW!!!!! - carl - 8/5/2009 2:06:19 PM
  - Strip search? (n/t) - Eri - 8/5/2009 2:46:26 PM
- Bill Clinton taking steps to end the 4-way relationship and have a one on one. - Buck Galaxy - 8/5/2009 12:24:11 AM
  - Dealing with North Korea - z - 8/5/2009 1:31:57 PM
    - Broken CHINA - carl - 8/5/2009 2:10:18 PM

How conservatives are expected to behave at town hall meetings. - alcaray - 8/3/2009 8:42:04 PM
- LMAO - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/6/2009 9:32:26 PM
  - Too much for me to answer for, sorry. - alcaray - 8/6/2009 10:29:20 PM
- Tip #7: Wear a brown shirt (n/t) - Robert - 8/4/2009 7:17:55 AM
  - At least that way we could identify them. (n/t) - ER - 8/6/2009 6:30:29 PM
  - ARE Founding Fathers were RADICALS - carl - 8/6/2009 2:35:01 PM
  - Health care industry thugs. - alcaray - 8/4/2009 4:35:17 PM
    - "thugs" is exactly right - Robert - 8/4/2009 5:23:04 PM
      - LaRouchians giving the Teabaggers a run for their money. - alcaray - 8/5/2009 2:30:51 AM
        
        I's not just the shirts that are brown. - ER - 8/5/2009 11:17:51 AM
        
        I believe the term is "Community Organizing" - Lee - 8/6/2009 5:43:27 PM
        
        Actually, your point is well taken and I do not dispute it. - ER - 8/6/2009 6:02:06 PM
        
        no one who goes to a town hall meeting is just "passing through" - Lee - 8/6/2009 10:55:04 PM
        
        About that "memo" - TB - 8/6/2009 2:39:35 AM
        
        The latest from FreedomWorks - alcaray - 8/6/2009 6:14:56 PM
        
        What's wrong with it? - Lee - 8/7/2009 3:23:59 AM
        
        Folks are saying there is no connection between FreedomWorks and the disruption of Democratic townhalls. - alcaray - 8/7/2009 7:16:06 AM
        
        That wasn't a denial, that was a coded confession - Robert - 8/6/2009 5:50:41 PM
        
        re: coded confession - TB - 8/6/2009 6:41:23 PM
        
        TB, winning hearts and minds again... - ER - 8/6/2009 7:08:41 PM
        
        One shred. (n/t) - TB - 8/6/2009 7:17:44 PM
        
        This shows a stark contrast... - alcaray - 8/6/2009 7:07:06 PM
        
        And still more brown. - ER - 8/6/2009 10:43:40 AM
        
        I thought that would be pointless. Just checking. (n/t) - TB - 8/6/2009 1:41:56 PM
  - Life may be a cabaret, old chum. - MC - 8/4/2009 12:18:33 PM
  - Hmmmmmm. - The Midnight Skulker - 8/4/2009 7:29:56 AM

Update on compensation controls - TB - 8/1/2009 10:55:57 PM
- What you don't understand... - Eri - 8/2/2009 4:54:34 AM
  - re: What you don't understand... - TB - 8/2/2009 2:57:18 PM
    - Tom, could you at least concede... - FrankC - 8/4/2009 2:57:46 AM
      - I don't think anyone's arguing that point. - Lee - 8/4/2009 5:21:24 AM
        
        my point is regulate yourself or be regulated - FrankC - 8/4/2009 5:31:20 AM
        
        You hit the nail on the head! (n/t) - Eri - 8/5/2009 3:53:02 AM
    - The reality is that the businesscrooks who run our - David F Mayer - 8/4/2009 12:39:42 AM
    - "There is no truth to this statement" - RobVG - 8/2/2009 7:16:11 PM
    - All of these companies, regardless of size... - Eri - 8/2/2009 4:55:52 PM
      - Yeah. All of them. - TB - 8/2/2009 5:36:01 PM
        
        re: Yeah. All of them. Just about. Of course, the liberals who "oppose" business interests - David F Mayer - 8/4/2009 12:45:17 AM
        
        I'm with you. - Eri - 8/4/2009 3:38:29 AM
        
        No public funds for campaigns either. - David F Mayer - 8/4/2009 12:37:59 PM
        
        I'll have to give that some thought. - Eri - 8/5/2009 3:59:13 AM
        
        Computer use is FREE at nearly all public libraries. - David F Mayer - 8/5/2009 1:29:55 PM
        
        Again, if you're homeless, you don't have a TV & maybe no radio. - Eri - 8/5/2009 6:36:55 PM
        
        In my city, there are libraries all over the place. - David F Mayer - 8/6/2009 12:40:22 PM
  - I agree. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 8/2/2009 1:17:49 PM

CBO keeps it coming - TB - 7/27/2009 6:52:15 PM
- Analysis with graphics - TB - 7/28/2009 4:27:24 PM
- Wow That's 10% of The 10 trillion Surplus that Evaporated Under Bush - Marsby - 7/27/2009 8:36:41 PM
  - It Was A Much Published Multi-year Total - Marsby - 7/28/2009 4:14:53 AM
    - Well, then you shouldn't have trouble finding a link. - TB - 7/28/2009 5:48:56 AM
      - re: Well, then you shouldn't have trouble finding a link. - Marsby - 8/5/2009 7:25:53 PM
  - "The 10 trillion Surplus" Can I have some of whatever you are smoking? - David F Mayer - 7/28/2009 1:36:19 AM
  - "10 trillion surplus?" Want to run that by me again? (n/t) - TB - 7/27/2009 10:48:10 PM

Walter Cronkite R.I.P. - Eric - 8/4/2009 3:41:29 AM
- AND THAT's the WAY it IS............ - carl - 8/4/2009 7:23:39 PM

Arlen Specter explains to crowd "We Have to do this FAST)" (Health nsurance bill) - carl - 8/4/2009 6:28:04 PM

Individual insurance and maternity - dtb - 8/3/2009 11:16:33 PM
- We need to control population growth - Baroke Obama - 8/4/2009 9:04:44 AM

Uhh Ohhhh, Tax Hike's a Coming - carl - 8/3/2009 4:29:41 PM

Enhance your performance, big boy. - ER - 8/2/2009 12:35:28 PM
- We do have a flame board. Feel free to use it. (n/t) - RobVG - 8/2/2009 6:40:38 PM
  - Come on. You call that a "flame?" (n/t) - TB - 8/2/2009 8:49:12 PM
    - Are you just plain dense? - RobVG - 8/2/2009 9:08:13 PM
      - Yeah, I think "dickhead" would qualify. - TB - 8/2/2009 9:22:00 PM
        
        Whether they are "facts" or not is open to debate. - Dickhead - 8/2/2009 9:59:25 PM
        
        Yes, there is. - Eri - 8/2/2009 11:15:36 PM
- Sorry, what do YOU consider a "current event?" - TB - 8/2/2009 3:41:10 PM
  - Spam, spam,spam,spam, spam - ER - 8/2/2009 4:26:04 PM
    - I thought you were spending all your time over on the "good" board. - TB - 8/2/2009 5:37:37 PM
      - Please direct me to the "good" board. - mip - 8/2/2009 7:41:20 PM
        
        Here ya go... - Jody - 8/2/2009 8:40:13 PM
        
        It's under construction (n/t) - RobVG - 8/2/2009 7:42:45 PM
      - Hey, I never said I was going to fade away altogether. - ER - 8/2/2009 6:34:17 PM
        
        "Dismal" - TB - 8/2/2009 8:48:34 PM
        
        A primer for "stuck in the rutters" - Eri - 8/2/2009 11:23:04 PM
        
        Yeah, right. It's all a big media conspiracy. - ER - 8/2/2009 8:58:18 PM

Who's paying the Federal income taxes - TB - 7/31/2009 2:10:36 PM
- The Rich STILL Pay at a Lower Rate than the Rest of Us. - David F Mayer - 8/2/2009 1:22:33 PM
- My uncle makes $144,000.00 gross/year... - Jody - 8/2/2009 12:53:55 AM
  - I gross considerably less than your uncle does... - ER - 8/2/2009 4:59:09 PM
    - We used to define "national wealth" differently. (n/t) - TB - 8/2/2009 5:57:58 PM
      - No, TB, you and I have always defined "national wealth" differently. (n/t) - ER - 8/2/2009 6:23:19 PM
- Luke 12:48 - Bowser - 8/1/2009 8:30:36 PM
  - re: Luke 12 - TB - 8/1/2009 8:49:11 PM
- The right way to look at this.... - dtb - 7/31/2009 8:08:47 PM
  - re: The right way to look at this - TB - 7/31/2009 8:32:23 PM
    - re: The right way to look at this - dtb - 7/31/2009 9:10:08 PM
      - So let me get this straight... - TB - 7/31/2009 9:41:26 PM
        
        re: So let me get this straight... - dtb - 8/1/2009 12:21:26 AM
        
        Taxes - TB - 8/1/2009 2:46:47 AM
        
        A 90% tax on income? - Lee - 8/1/2009 12:52:32 PM
        
        It's complicated - TB - 8/1/2009 1:43:51 PM
- Oh what tangled webs we weave... - Robert - 7/31/2009 5:47:23 PM
  - Statistical shenanigans. - RobVG - 8/1/2009 9:43:50 PM
    - re: Statistical shenanigans. - TB - 8/1/2009 10:43:13 PM
  - I forgot. For you, this was good news. (n/t) - TB - 7/31/2009 6:20:46 PM
    - No, the rich getting richer and the middle class getting poorer, is not good news. (n/t) - Robert - 7/31/2009 7:46:22 PM
      - re: middle class getting poorer? - TB - 7/31/2009 7:56:25 PM
        
        Personal Income grew by 80% but comsumer prices increased by 350%. - RobVG - 8/1/2009 9:58:14 PM
        
        The numbers in that source were adjusted for inflation (n/t) - TB - 8/1/2009 10:31:32 PM
        
        Yeah but... - RobVG - 8/2/2009 12:53:49 AM
        
        re: Yeah but... - TB - 8/2/2009 3:22:49 AM
        
        re: Yeah but... - RobVG - 8/2/2009 6:32:07 PM
        
        Whatever a 26 percent increase is, it isn't "getting poorer." (n/t) - TB - 8/2/2009 8:38:01 PM
        
        Sorry, only 250% incease in prices. (n/t) - RobVG - 8/1/2009 10:17:51 PM
        
        Link to original paper - TB - 7/31/2009 8:02:06 PM
- Please cite the source of reproduced material. (n/t) - RobertS - 7/31/2009 5:39:54 PM
  - I did. I always do. - TB - 7/31/2009 6:12:56 PM
    - re: I did. I always do. - RobertS - 7/31/2009 7:44:10 PM
      - I'm not following you. - TB - 7/31/2009 7:47:46 PM

Venezuela update - TB - 7/31/2009 4:38:57 AM
- Hugo Chavez read his Lenin well, and is implementing it step by step. What a surprise! (n/t) - David F Mayer - 8/2/2009 1:25:05 PM
- General question - mip - 8/1/2009 1:04:31 AM
  - Message boards are private property, life is not. (n/t) - Lee - 8/1/2009 1:34:17 AM
    - So, my posts become someone else's private property? (n/t) - mip - 8/1/2009 6:40:35 AM
      - If you post on their site, then you are subject to their rules. - Lee - 8/1/2009 2:13:28 PM
        
        So what you're saying is... - mip - 8/1/2009 6:21:28 PM
        
        The First Amendment - TB - 8/1/2009 6:36:10 PM
        
        Someone else's space - mip - 8/2/2009 5:48:07 AM
        
        re: Someone else's space - Doug Ellison - 8/2/2009 1:01:55 PM
        
        Fascinating! (n/t) - mip - 8/2/2009 4:41:41 PM
- re: Venezuela update - JEKing - 7/31/2009 9:55:13 PM

USA needs a FAIR income tax system: the Flat Tax - David F Mayer - 8/2/2009 1:58:15 PM
- re: income tax system - TB - 8/2/2009 3:37:19 PM

Ten Reasons American Health Care is Better Than You've Been Told - TB - 8/1/2009 9:32:36 PM

The "Cash for Clunkers" program - TB - 7/31/2009 5:13:30 PM
- Do you say it did not work? (n/t) - alcaray - 7/31/2009 6:31:16 PM
- AND They Wanta run a HEALTH CARE SYSTEM? - carl - 7/31/2009 6:17:50 PM

"Corruption and big government go together" - TB - 7/29/2009 4:33:15 AM
- Nope, FED STINGS and the KOSHER NOSTRA - carl - 7/31/2009 1:21:26 PM
- Corruption and big BUSINESS also go together. - David F Mayer - 7/30/2009 12:06:40 AM
- like "privatization" and consultants and lobbyists - E.P. - 7/29/2009 8:28:51 PM

Michael Yon in Afghanistan - TB - 7/31/2009 4:19:16 AM

Deaf man tased - FrankC - 7/28/2009 8:16:53 PM
- Sedate Fan Mad - RobVG - 7/29/2009 6:27:50 AM
- Happens a lot -- even to siezure victims - dtb - 7/29/2009 12:56:44 AM
  - Jeez, do they give these guys intelligence tests? (n/t) - Eri - 7/29/2009 3:42:46 AM
    - re: Jeez, do they give these guys intelligence tests? - Eric - 7/29/2009 2:46:09 PM
      - Do I detect some distain for non-lethals? - FrankC - 7/29/2009 4:48:06 PM
        
        re: Do I detect some distain for non-lethals? - Eric - 7/29/2009 6:42:01 PM
        
        Would they have been clubbed? Not so sure - dtb - 7/29/2009 8:59:22 PM
        
        Well, they were tasered instead of clubbed - FrankC - 7/29/2009 7:41:19 PM
- I guess - Eri - 7/29/2009 12:08:53 AM

Believe it or not, Professor Gates and Officer Crowley are actually distant cousins! - z - 7/29/2009 8:43:03 PM

Some conservative ideas for health care reform - TB - 7/27/2009 7:15:33 PM
- A hopefully bipartisan idea -- end 'recission' - dtb - 7/28/2009 2:35:48 AM
- A contradiction - dtb - 7/28/2009 1:36:14 AM
  - You make a good point - TB - 7/28/2009 1:45:19 AM
- Sorry, it is too late for "Private Enterprise" to save the day. - David F Mayer - 7/28/2009 12:29:11 AM
- about those "conservative ideas" for health care reform - Publius - 7/27/2009 9:13:07 PM
  - One more reason to ban ALL political campaign contributions. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 7/28/2009 12:30:17 AM
    - Let's make war illegal while we're at it. - TB - 7/28/2009 12:55:17 AM
      - "And if private contributions are outlawed, who pays for campaign costs? " Nobody. - David F Mayer - 7/28/2009 1:33:23 AM
        
        Okay, how many votes you think that will get in Congress? (n/t) - TB - 7/28/2009 1:46:13 AM
        
        I think it is time for a second Constitutional Convention. - David F Mayer - 7/28/2009 2:39:17 AM
        
        careful what you wish for - FrankC - 7/28/2009 7:31:59 PM
        
        Good God, no. - TB - 7/28/2009 3:39:24 AM
        
        Yea, let's save ammendments for just the really necessary things. - alcaray - 7/28/2009 5:11:49 PM
        
        I don't support that either. - TB - 7/28/2009 8:15:56 PM
        
        Get back to me when it passes (n/t) - FrankC - 7/28/2009 7:33:20 PM
        
        Get back to me when Obama gets some credit from you guys... - alcaray - 7/28/2009 9:15:11 PM
        
        Why so despondent? - FrankC - 7/28/2009 9:46:58 PM
        
        If you don't want to play, then don't play. (n/t) - alcaray - 7/28/2009 11:33:18 PM
        
        re: moron - TB - 7/28/2009 9:44:55 PM
        
        Do you expect him to champion a narrow-interest amendment to limit some citizens rights? - alcaray - 7/28/2009 11:31:35 PM
        
        Why bother? He's doing just fine via the legislative process (n/t) - TB - 7/29/2009 1:42:01 AM
        
        Your prior disdain for trivial amendments seems to have evaporated. (n/t) - alcaray - 7/29/2009 3:53:38 AM
        
        I expect nothing from him - FrankC - 7/28/2009 11:34:46 PM
  - Impressive. - TB - 7/27/2009 10:46:06 PM

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