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The light at the end of the tunnel - Donald - 8/4/2006 2:09:30 PM

Hezbollah military facility - Tom Brosz - 8/3/2006 6:45:25 AM
- Classic! As with rape, blame the victim. Can't go wrong with that. (n/t) - Bowser - 8/3/2006 1:49:47 PM
  - - exactly what you are doing right now. Goodonya (n/t) - Daniel - 8/3/2006 3:37:58 PM
    - Israel's army is in Lebanon. Makes them the aggressor. Lebanon the victim. (n/t) - Bowser - 8/3/2006 4:08:13 PM
      - Yup - victim hunts down perpetrator and fights back, and is therefore the aggressor. Classic (n/t) - Daniel - 8/3/2006 10:18:43 PM
      - re: the aggressor - Tom Brosz - 8/3/2006 4:21:24 PM
        
        Hezbullah is responding to 50 years of ethnic cleansing. - Bowser - 8/4/2006 5:32:54 AM
        
        What a stupid argument. - Scott Evil - 8/4/2006 2:06:34 PM
        
        Hezbollah struck first. - Buck Galaxy - 8/4/2006 6:44:21 AM
  - You are obviously insane. This guys was firing rockets from inside a house. - David F Mayer - 8/3/2006 3:13:22 PM
    - Double post: Sorry (n/t) - DFM - 8/3/2006 3:19:03 PM
  - You are obviously insane. This guys was firing rockets from inside a house. - David F Mayer - 8/3/2006 3:13:20 PM

An educated and intelligent muslim woman speaks out. - David F Mayer - 8/3/2006 4:36:05 PM
- The reaction of the Muslim leader is telling - sz - 8/4/2006 11:39:41 AM
- And, on the other side of the issue, Palestinian mother prepares child for outing. - David F Mayer - 8/3/2006 5:45:20 PM
  - Someday lets hope she is among the "Innocent Civilian Casualties" killed by an Isrealie bomb. - Scott Evil - 8/4/2006 2:00:55 PM
  - You should have more respect for other 'cultures' - Daniel - 8/3/2006 10:24:49 PM

Former US President Carter May Be Next Cuban Head-of-State - David F Mayer - 8/3/2006 3:36:19 PM
- I find this hard to believe. - ER - 8/4/2006 12:13:23 AM
  - Gotcha! (n/t) - DFM - 8/4/2006 12:55:01 PM
  - It's a joke. - Tom Brosz - 8/4/2006 2:18:23 AM
- Insightful quote of an unnamed source............... - Publius - 8/3/2006 5:12:00 PM
  - Check the link! (n/t) - DFM - 8/3/2006 5:43:24 PM
  - Scrappleface (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/3/2006 5:36:51 PM
- Great idea if we could convice the Cubans! Would you object? (n/t) - alcaray - 8/3/2006 3:44:19 PM

Santorum putting up a sham Green campaign - alcaray - 8/1/2006 9:22:39 PM
- Money doesn't talk, it swears. - ER - 8/2/2006 7:08:39 PM
- It is a sham, but so is what the Dems are doing in Texas. - Lee - 8/2/2006 4:06:48 AM
  - lot of Dems in Texas doing a lot of things. What are you talking about? (n/t) - alcaray - 8/2/2006 2:17:19 PM
    - About keeping Delay's name on the ballot. - Lee - 8/2/2006 6:49:24 PM
      - Ahh. I don't think you understand what is going on. - alcaray - 8/2/2006 8:35:40 PM
        
        A blast from the past... - Tom Brosz - 8/3/2006 5:21:16 AM
        
        Oy, do I have to explain what an editorial is again? - alcaray - 8/3/2006 2:54:33 PM
        
        Nice try. - Tom Brosz - 8/3/2006 4:10:03 PM
        
        I'm not clear: I thought the target of your post and the piece you linked to was the newspaper? - alcaray - 8/3/2006 4:31:06 PM
- Santorum, sham, same difference. - Fox - 8/1/2006 11:29:54 PM
  - Anyone should be allowed to run. - Mary Anne - 8/2/2006 1:08:20 AM
    - Should the Democrats put up Nazis and conservative independents? - alcaray - 8/2/2006 2:23:45 PM
      - Not necessarily. - Mary Anne - 8/2/2006 11:43:59 PM
      - are you saying Nazis and conservative independents are the same thing? - Publius - 8/2/2006 6:35:13 PM
        
        Obviously, "Nazis" is the incendiary part of my statement... - alcaray - 8/2/2006 8:45:57 PM

"When democracy spreads in the Middle East, the people of that troubled region will have a better future," said President Bush on Monday in Miami.' - Bowser - 8/3/2006 6:27:43 AM
- A terrific foreign policy failure - Donald - 8/3/2006 1:57:10 PM
  - re: And it just gets worse - Andrew - 8/3/2006 3:00:57 PM

Commy CASTRO and CUBA - carl - 8/1/2006 6:27:40 PM
- Commy, can you hear me? Can you feel me near you? - Fox - 8/1/2006 11:25:02 PM
  - Mel Brooks, R.U. listening? - carl - 8/3/2006 2:03:52 PM
- It would make a great place to launch tourists into space. - Scott Evil - 8/1/2006 9:34:42 PM
  - re: It would make a great place to launch tourists into space. - LJK - 8/2/2006 3:51:05 PM
- After the Castroes (both of them) die, Cuba will no longer be Communist. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 8/1/2006 7:37:55 PM
  - Why do you think so? (n/t) - alcaray - 8/1/2006 10:44:23 PM
    - Think? - Fox - 8/1/2006 11:26:13 PM
      - Because most people want freedom. - David F Mayer - 8/2/2006 1:47:58 AM
        
        I'm not in support of Cuba nor its government but... - alcaray - 8/2/2006 2:27:16 PM
        
        I keep thinking of what Morpheus said in The Matrix... - LJK - 8/2/2006 3:53:37 PM
        
        Americans are plugged in too. (n/t) - alcaray - 8/2/2006 4:10:18 PM
        
        re: Americans are plugged in too. - LJK - 8/2/2006 4:15:25 PM
  - re: You might see an uprising before that. ( Assuming Fidel Dies first) - Scott Evil - 8/1/2006 9:36:55 PM
  - But will there be a Mass Exodus from Cuba? - carl - 8/1/2006 8:59:06 PM
    - A better question is, will Bush allow me to go there? - Publius - 8/1/2006 11:42:22 PM
      - Anybody who wants can go there now. - Tom Brosz - 8/2/2006 12:11:28 AM
        
        Actually............ - Publius - 8/2/2006 6:26:17 PM
        
        re: Actually............ - Scott Evil - 8/3/2006 2:11:56 PM
        
        It is not too hard if you stop somewhere that has flights to Cuba. - David F Mayer - 8/2/2006 1:56:39 AM
        
        In case you really are interested........ - Publius - 8/2/2006 6:40:25 PM
        
        An End to Castro's Cuba? on American Experience - ljk - 8/3/2006 12:59:11 AM
        
        Posters, I see a Theme Park here! - carl - 8/3/2006 2:08:36 PM

How is this guy and his followers any less dangerous than Islamic fundies? - LJK - 8/2/2006 6:52:12 PM
- "Jesus is coming. Look busy." -- bumper sticker (n/t) - ER - 8/2/2006 8:33:43 PM
- re: How is this guy and his followers any less dangerous than Islamic fundies? - Tom Brosz - 8/2/2006 7:50:36 PM
  - re: How is this guy and his followers any less dangerous than Islamic fundies? - LJK - 8/3/2006 1:29:58 PM
  - re: How is this guy and his followers any less dangerous than Islamic fundies? - gbaikie - 8/2/2006 10:11:26 PM
- "What'll the preachers do when the Devil is saved?"-- Brother Dave Gardner (n/t) - ER - 8/2/2006 7:18:21 PM

Ralph Peters on Qana and the war - Daniel - 8/3/2006 6:25:33 AM

Meet the new boss... - ER - 8/1/2006 4:06:25 AM
- ...Same as the old boss - Buck Galaxy - 8/2/2006 10:12:07 PM
  - Roger Daltry--the best scream in all rock and roll! (n/t) - ER - 8/3/2006 12:33:40 AM
- Unfortunately... - Tom Brosz - 8/1/2006 4:14:42 AM
  - Iraq 2? - LJK - 8/1/2006 1:40:03 PM
    - I'm betting the place is completely over-run with CIA infiltrators. - Tommie the Commie - 8/1/2006 3:47:16 PM
    - re: Iraq dos? - ER - 8/1/2006 2:11:24 PM
      - re: Iraq dos? - Tom Brosz - 8/1/2006 6:37:06 PM
        
        Lawyers, guns and money - ER - 8/1/2006 6:57:47 PM
        
        re: I think part of the US rebuilding democracy plan for Cuba will include funds to buy-off the aggreived parties. - Scott Evil - 8/1/2006 9:42:37 PM
        
        The Circle of Society - LJK - 8/1/2006 9:34:19 PM
        
        I think the Russian Mafia has already got that covered. - Scott Evil - 8/1/2006 9:45:50 PM

9/11 untruths could be criminal - report says - Eric - 8/2/2006 2:45:19 PM
- The Washington Post: 9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon - Eric - 8/2/2006 2:54:32 PM
  - Rumsfeld's Pentagon. 'Nuff sed. (n/t) - Bowser - 8/2/2006 9:23:46 PM

Feelin' Hot Hot Hot! - LJK - 8/2/2006 6:43:43 PM
- re: Far cooler now! - Raoul - 8/2/2006 7:20:19 PM

I wasn't aware of this particular lie, in the 2002 State of the Union address. - Bowser - 7/31/2006 3:38:40 PM
- Bush - "our military went to Afghanistan, destroyed the training camps of al-Qaeda, and put the Taliban out of business forever. " - Bowser - 7/31/2006 3:44:57 PM
  - I think it's painfully obvious... - Tom Brosz - 7/31/2006 4:33:31 PM
    - But what do you think about the lies? - Bowser - 7/31/2006 11:36:35 PM
    - it's not so obvious... - Publius - 7/31/2006 8:42:09 PM
      - Isn't that what Kennedy done? - Lee - 8/2/2006 12:32:33 AM
        
        And opened the backdoor diplo channels and cut a deal. - alcaray - 8/2/2006 6:32:50 PM
      - It will be nice to get that finger off that button. (n/t) - alcaray - 7/31/2006 9:13:47 PM
        
        That finger has been on the button through over four years of war. - Tom Brosz - 7/31/2006 9:45:18 PM
        
        "No Republican has ever dropped an atomic bomb on anyone." - Robert - 7/31/2006 10:55:50 PM
        
        "Well, the Republicans really WANTED to." - Tom Brosz - 7/31/2006 11:13:11 PM
        
        re: "Well, the Republicans really WANTED to." - Robert - 8/1/2006 2:06:40 AM
        
        Goldwater - Tom Brosz - 8/1/2006 2:50:19 AM
        
        Yes? - alcaray - 7/31/2006 9:59:13 PM
        
        re: Yes? - gbaikie - 7/31/2006 10:49:56 PM
        
        profile yes - alcaray - 7/31/2006 11:17:23 PM
    - You mean the left would still count up the lies and failed policies? I agree. (n/t) - alcaray - 7/31/2006 4:51:07 PM
      - Accountability isn't a word anymore. (n/t) - Tony - 7/31/2006 5:13:13 PM
      - It isn't about Iraq, and it never was. - Tom Brosz - 7/31/2006 4:53:34 PM
        
        Kathryn Harris gave the Republicans the coal mine in Florida - Publius - 7/31/2006 8:48:05 PM
        
        My statement about marbles and Florida seems to be holding up. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 7/31/2006 9:46:12 PM
        
        By definition, then, an Imperial Presidency, not accountable to the people. - Bowser - 7/31/2006 5:03:41 PM
        
        C'mon Bowser, tell the truth...... - Publius - 7/31/2006 8:55:22 PM
        
        My, and God's, mistake!! (n/t) - Bowser - 7/31/2006 10:18:55 PM
        
        I think you are saying... - alcaray - 7/31/2006 5:01:02 PM
        
        TB is half right. - Bowser - 7/31/2006 5:07:16 PM

T.T.C..Trans Texas Corridor....any INFO? - carl - 7/25/2006 4:59:35 PM
- re: T.T.C..Trans Texas Corridor....any INFO? - jware - 8/1/2006 6:52:03 AM
  - re: T.T.C..Trans Texas Corridor....any INFO? - jware - 8/1/2006 6:53:23 AM
    - re: T.T.C..Trans Texas Corridor....any INFO? - jware - 8/2/2006 7:02:05 AM
- None of the docks in the US are operated by US companies anyway... - Scott Evil - 7/25/2006 6:27:21 PM
  - True, true..... - carl - 7/25/2006 6:44:20 PM
    - I think it is a labor union sponsored scare story - Scott Evil - 7/25/2006 7:04:56 PM
      - Don't know any details of this project... - alcaray - 7/25/2006 7:23:13 PM
        
        Details of the project - Fox - 7/25/2006 8:26:50 PM
        
        re: Details of the project - REB - 8/2/2006 12:49:35 PM
        
        Looks like reasonable planning to me. - Scott Evil - 7/25/2006 10:03:35 PM

Qana attacked faked by Hezbollah? - David F Mayer - 8/1/2006 1:18:44 PM
- if it helps you, then believe it - Daniel - 8/2/2006 8:07:21 AM
- Israel bombed it, then it fell. Sort of like WTC. (Doesn't take a genius.) (n/t) - Bowser - 8/1/2006 9:12:12 PM
  - Eight Hours Later?? Possible. But the truth will only emerge, - David F Mayer - 8/2/2006 1:59:50 AM
- This is something to watch, but... - Tom Brosz - 8/1/2006 6:15:08 PM
  - The evidence is not yet in, so I have formed no definite conclusion. - David F Mayer - 8/1/2006 7:36:48 PM
    - re: The evidence is not yet in - Tom Brosz - 8/1/2006 8:12:51 PM
  - re: This is something to watch, but... - gbaikie - 8/1/2006 7:17:23 PM

Landis = toast. Tragic. - Bowser - 8/2/2006 4:27:03 AM

Iran is at war - gbaikie - 7/31/2006 11:33:09 PM
- Most people are opposed to ethnic cleansing. The ROW is. - Bowser - 7/31/2006 11:51:03 PM
  - Exterminating them? Then how come their population is INCREASING? - David F Mayer - 8/1/2006 2:41:28 PM
    - birth rate plus imigration greater than death rate plus eimigration - alcaray - 8/1/2006 10:47:58 PM
  - reality check - Daniel - 8/1/2006 1:13:23 AM
  - Getting the Palestinians off the Planet would solve a lot of problems. - Scott Evil - 8/1/2006 1:08:47 AM
  - "Exterminating the Palestinians" - Tom Brosz - 8/1/2006 12:22:31 AM
    - It's a far cry from what Joshua would've done. (n/t) - Lee - 8/1/2006 5:27:30 AM
      - Actually, the Israelites MERGED with the native - David F Mayer - 8/1/2006 2:46:21 PM

Iran, U.N., nukes...ahhh, you know the rest. - Tom Brosz - 8/1/2006 7:00:23 AM
- I have a source that has explained to me the Secret UN Plan. - David F Mayer - 8/1/2006 7:39:14 PM
- China and Russia won't go for anything with teeth in it. - alcaray - 8/1/2006 2:56:44 PM
  - I wish I knew. - Tom Brosz - 8/1/2006 6:35:20 PM
    - re: I wish I knew. - gbaikie - 8/1/2006 7:54:40 PM
  - re: I think the UN should form a joint expeditionary blockade force. - Scott Evil - 8/1/2006 3:57:34 PM

Why are we fighting in Afghanistan? - Bowser - 8/1/2006 5:44:42 AM
- We are fighting terrorists and the nations that support them. - SDF - 8/1/2006 2:03:36 PM
  - Now don't try to use reason on him. That never works. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 8/1/2006 2:37:46 PM

History Will Judge Us All On Our Actions - gbaikie - 7/31/2006 10:02:23 PM

The tall story we Europeans now tell ourselves - gbaikie - 7/30/2006 12:02:44 PM
- re: Qana - Raoul - 7/30/2006 6:15:29 PM
  - Isreal says the building was collapsed several hours AFTER their strike. - Scott Evil - 7/31/2006 1:31:16 PM
    - re: Here's a link - Scott Evil - 7/31/2006 1:38:35 PM
      - I'm still putting that in the "wait and see" category. - Tom Brosz - 7/31/2006 4:55:17 PM
  - re: Qana - Daniel - 7/31/2006 10:46:14 AM
  - The shame, and the blame, belong with the Hezbollah religious fascists - sz - 7/30/2006 11:20:31 PM
    - re: The Hezbollah - Raoul - 7/31/2006 5:50:48 AM
      - They also get credit for helping to get rid of Israel's prior occupation. - alcaray - 7/31/2006 3:47:25 PM
      - re: The mafia and Al Capone were once very popular in the USA - Scott Evil - 7/31/2006 1:33:05 PM
      - The popularity of religious lunatics merely underscores the scope of the problem (n/t) - sz - 7/31/2006 12:11:29 PM
        
        You're correct. George Walker Bush, for example. (n/t) - Bowser - 7/31/2006 8:44:53 PM
      - And Mussolini made the trains run on time. - Lee - 7/31/2006 5:58:48 AM
    - Understandable, and basic, misunderstanding. - Bowser - 7/31/2006 1:53:30 AM
      - "justifies the ethnic cleansing Israel is doing" - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/31/2006 6:35:23 AM
      - The Israelis have used nukes? When? (n/t) - Lee - 7/31/2006 2:23:08 AM
        
        That was a long thoughtful post. Wanna say something relevant? (n/t) - Bowser - 7/31/2006 4:12:07 AM
        
        You said it...just wanted an example. (n/t) - Lee - 7/31/2006 6:00:04 AM
        
        You can't do it, can you. Ya got no substance. - Bowser - 7/31/2006 6:23:25 AM
        
        gee, for a moment I thought that was an apartment block in Haifa - Daniel - 7/31/2006 10:49:25 AM
        
        gee, for a moment I thought that was an apartment block in Haifa - Daniel - 7/31/2006 10:49:22 AM
        
        Good luck finding a picture of that in the media. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 7/31/2006 5:11:24 PM
        
        Seriously. Posted on Flame. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 7/31/2006 6:16:47 PM
- Anyone who can excuse Israel will LOVE the war in Iraq. (n/t) - Bowser - 7/30/2006 5:35:50 PM
  - Screw Iraq---look for the first showing of the sequel....The War in Iran.. - Publius - 7/31/2006 9:02:56 PM
- Israel news agency's defense - Daniel - 7/30/2006 1:55:23 PM
  - 56 people in one house killed....does this sound odd to anyone else? - Lee - 7/30/2006 10:16:00 PM
    - "Hezbollah probably forced these people into the house and began firing rockets from outside - - - " - Bowser - 7/31/2006 1:59:30 AM
      - These are the same people... - Lee - 7/31/2006 2:19:55 AM
        
        fair point (n/t) - Daniel - 7/31/2006 10:33:33 AM
        
        actually, probably not - Daniel - 7/31/2006 12:08:43 PM
  - IDF response on Qana - Tom Brosz - 7/30/2006 9:59:08 PM
    - And one more piece of preliminary information - Tom Brosz - 7/30/2006 10:32:47 PM
  - re: Israel news agency's defense - gbaikie - 7/30/2006 8:43:52 PM
  - Hezbollah and the PR war. - Tom Brosz - 7/30/2006 6:48:21 PM
    - The media does the same thing about casualties in Afghanistan - Lee - 7/31/2006 12:16:57 AM
    - More on the U.N. post bombing - Tom Brosz - 7/30/2006 6:51:19 PM
      - re: More on the U.N. post bombing-a questionable source - Andrew - 7/31/2006 2:35:05 AM
        
        re: source - Tom Brosz - 7/31/2006 8:18:50 AM
        
        re: source â€œUN under fire; what happened at patrol base Khiyam?â€ - Andrew - 7/31/2006 3:26:24 PM

Video of UN ambulance picking up fighters in Gaza - Daniel - 7/28/2006 10:42:10 PM
- re: Unlike Israel that just just blows up UN peacekeepers - Andrew - 7/29/2006 5:14:39 PM
  - Hezbollah was using the peacekeepers' site to attack Israel (n/t) - David F Mayer - 7/30/2006 2:31:06 AM
    - re: But two wrongs do not make a right - - Andrew - 7/30/2006 2:16:52 PM
      - re: Not true in war... - Scott Evil - 7/31/2006 1:25:07 PM
      - Read what the Canadian wrote. - Tom Brosz - 7/30/2006 6:57:31 PM
  - ref. my reply to gbaikie below (n/t) - daniel - 7/29/2006 5:58:36 PM
- Do we have video of what was happening to the driver of the ambulance before the pick-up? - Mary Anne - 7/29/2006 1:41:35 AM
  - transporting injured - Eric - 7/29/2006 2:37:11 AM
  - Some background... - Tom Brosz - 7/29/2006 2:21:22 AM
    - A little more background... - Mary Anne - 7/30/2006 4:55:31 PM
      - If you want to play that game... - Tom Brosz - 7/30/2006 6:54:43 PM
        
        It's not so much what I think isn't true... - Mary Anne - 7/30/2006 11:53:59 PM
        
        re: It's not so much what I think isn't true... - gbaikie - 7/31/2006 1:00:10 AM
        
        re: It's not so much what I think isn't true... - Tom Brosz - 7/31/2006 12:56:40 AM
  - re: Do we have video of what was happening to the driver of the ambulance before the pick-up? - gbaikie - 7/29/2006 2:19:50 AM
    - nothing would suprise me anymore - from either side of the conflict (n/t) - Daniel - 7/29/2006 10:46:15 AM

When superstition overrules science, others will profit. - Bowser - 7/31/2006 1:40:08 AM

"As the Iraqis stand up, we will stand down." And other deceptions. - Bowser - 7/30/2006 5:45:59 PM
- Rumors of other deceptions.. - Eric - 7/30/2006 10:05:48 PM
  - Would you, could you, comment on the content? Or keep dodging? (n/t) - Bowser - 7/31/2006 1:03:48 AM
  - An appropriate reply to most of what Bowser posts. (n/t) - gbaikie - 7/31/2006 12:30:02 AM

Totalitarianism Spreads In Iran - David F Mayer - 7/30/2006 2:27:49 AM
- your color coding is weird - daniel] - 7/30/2006 5:31:33 AM
  - Just a change of pace. Nothing else. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 7/30/2006 11:34:53 PM

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