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Transfer of life across the void - Sawyer - 5/8/2005 2:13:44 PM
- messed up link - Sawyer - 5/8/2005 2:15:03 PM

Dust devils, continued - Tom Brosz - 5/8/2005 6:10:44 AM
- Seeing 4 dd's in one frame indicates that getting "cleaned" by one is not too improbable. (n/t) (n/t) - Sawyer - 5/8/2005 12:43:15 PM
- Dust Devils- GONE WILD!!!! - NAHHHH - 5/8/2005 6:38:24 AM

Dome C Concordia (South Pole) - Raoul - 5/8/2005 8:34:33 AM

Lucas has begun hyping his next Star Wars movie - Gary - 5/5/2005 4:24:09 PM
- re: Lucas has begun hyping his next Star Wars movie - ljk - 5/5/2005 7:21:16 PM
- If you don't mind spoilers... - alcaray - 5/5/2005 5:51:00 PM
  - 20 years ago, I was a full-on Star Wars fan boy - Gary --- ex-fan boy - 5/6/2005 6:18:36 AM
    - You don't like it, then write something better (n/t) - Luke Georgias - 5/6/2005 6:12:23 PM
    - Gary's post should have a spoiler alert - alcaray - 5/6/2005 3:24:25 PM
      - Hey, I'm an ex-fan boy! What do you expect? (n/t) - Gary - 5/6/2005 3:56:09 PM
        
        courtesy (n/t) - alcaray - 5/6/2005 5:31:46 PM
    - Don't sweat it. - SDAI-Tech1 - 5/6/2005 9:45:14 AM
      - I think Marcia and George Lucas together made "Star Wars" a good movie - Gary - 5/6/2005 3:44:49 PM
      - Though it is made last, it is the middle of the series. (n/t) - alcaray - 5/6/2005 3:27:54 PM
    - How could anyone not support the Empire? - Lee - 5/6/2005 7:43:34 AM
      - Do you get your kicks making posts like that? - SDAI-Tech1 - 5/6/2005 9:33:21 AM
        
        The SS lived very comfortably - Gary - 5/6/2005 4:04:21 PM

The 140,000 year graph - Tom Brosz - 5/5/2005 6:29:47 PM
- Where's the recent CO2 spike? - Arthur Smith - 5/5/2005 7:54:58 PM
  - How about this? - Arthur Smith - 5/6/2005 5:30:57 AM
    - re: How about this? - gbaikie - 5/6/2005 7:04:31 AM
- Do you like that graph because it's misleading at first glance. - et - 5/5/2005 6:43:09 PM
  - Don't be so defensive. - Tom Brosz - 5/5/2005 7:22:09 PM
    - LOL! - SDAI-Tech1 - 5/5/2005 8:29:29 PM
      - Let's do some numbers - Gary - 5/6/2005 6:59:03 AM
        
        ROFL! Burger King's bad...but what about Taco Bell? - SDAI-Tech1 - 5/6/2005 9:18:55 AM
        
        I don't do Taco Bell anymore... - Gary - 5/6/2005 4:13:13 PM
        
        To get serious, you want methane, look at cows. - Tom Brosz - 5/6/2005 4:09:53 PM
        
        To REALLY get serious, look at CO2. - et - 5/6/2005 4:21:15 PM
        
        Cows? What about decomposing plankton and seaweed? - Gary - 5/6/2005 4:16:59 PM
        
        Plankton and seaweed wouldn't decompose were it not for human activities killing them. (n/t) - A. Leftleaner - 5/6/2005 5:43:27 PM
    - The Atkins diet causes people to release less methane? (n/t) - Scott Evil - 5/5/2005 7:54:01 PM
      - I notice that you avoid the fact you were shown a fool when you claimed Volcanoes caused the increased CO2 - R.L. - 5/5/2005 9:09:05 PM

The Oreskes paper results. Re: human induced climate change? - et - 5/5/2005 4:59:02 PM
- Here are the 34 abstracts that allegedly contradict the consensus - pwokenyaw - 5/5/2005 8:00:41 PM
  - re: allegedly contradict the consensus - Tom Brosz - 5/6/2005 3:16:14 AM
    - re: allegedly contradict the consensus - pwokenyaw - 5/6/2005 4:52:45 PM
  - Consensus not demostratable - gbaikie - 5/6/2005 2:55:49 AM
    - I understand that's your conclusion but do you care to react to the evidence? - pwokenyaw - 5/6/2005 4:37:10 PM
  - My conclusion after reading all 33 - pwokenyaw - 5/5/2005 8:38:26 PM
- I only wish I was getting paid for this. - Tom Brosz - 5/5/2005 5:39:06 PM
  - Another article on this - Tom Brosz - 5/5/2005 5:59:02 PM
    - The hockey stick issue has been addressed. - et - 5/5/2005 6:30:40 PM
      - BTW... - Tom Brosz - 5/5/2005 7:05:49 PM
      - This link is very useful - Tom Brosz - 5/5/2005 6:48:43 PM
        
        They're the same damn data, presented and plotted differently. - et - 5/5/2005 7:03:09 PM
        
        re: "presented and plotted differently" - Tom Brosz - 5/5/2005 7:32:23 PM
    - Clarification - Tom Brosz - 5/5/2005 6:00:48 PM
- Related paper. - et - 5/5/2005 5:24:36 PM
  - Another question: - Tom Brosz - 5/5/2005 6:18:49 PM

Soccer Balls in Saturn's Rings - ljk - 5/6/2005 2:47:26 PM
- We're already studying it for Jupiter - Gary - 5/6/2005 4:43:24 PM

Viking 2 and MPL - Raoul - 5/5/2005 8:50:17 PM
- thanks Raoul (n/t) - Daniel - 5/6/2005 4:43:04 AM
- re: Mars Polar Lander found - Raoul - 5/5/2005 8:55:14 PM
  - Just thought of something. - Tom Brosz - 5/5/2005 11:39:36 PM
    - Hydrazine from ruptured fuel tanks - Gary - 5/6/2005 7:26:24 AM
    - 130 feet - dtb - 5/6/2005 12:45:55 AM
      - re: 130 feet - Jacob Samorodin - 5/6/2005 2:25:43 PM
        
        Been there, done that... - Nick Hoffman - 5/6/2005 4:07:06 PM
        
        re: Been there, done that... - Jacob Samorodin - 5/6/2005 4:20:01 PM
  - Cool! - Tom Brosz - 5/5/2005 11:35:28 PM
  - Malin's site posts the images! - JimO - 5/5/2005 10:56:57 PM
  - re: Mars Polar Lander found Un-freakin-believable!!! Great stuff! (n/t) - p - 5/5/2005 10:53:26 PM

Delta II launch 11May05 - Marcus - 5/6/2005 2:20:20 PM
- Inertia? Safety? - SDF - 5/6/2005 2:32:24 PM
  - re: Inertia? Safety? - Doug Ellison - 5/6/2005 3:13:41 PM

MSNBC on BBC report of MARSIS antenna deployment - JimO - 5/5/2005 11:18:43 PM
- Nice article - Donald - 5/6/2005 12:58:29 PM
- expect the unexpected... - Nick Hoffman - 5/6/2005 2:10:39 AM

Anthropogenic CO2. - et - 5/4/2005 4:58:05 PM
- Human flatulence. - SDAI-Tech1 - 5/5/2005 11:59:56 AM
  - BTW - R.L. - 5/5/2005 2:20:10 PM
    - Tree ring science - SDAI-Tech1 - 5/5/2005 7:43:11 PM
      - Look into isotopic analysis... - R.L. - 5/5/2005 7:50:56 PM
  - WHY do you waste space with posts like this? - R.L. - 5/5/2005 2:09:00 PM
- More propaganda from those biased eco-whackos at NASA, and Columbia University, and Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, and.... - R.L. - 5/5/2005 8:08:35 AM
  - Commentary and synopsis from that study's author..... - et - 5/5/2005 2:55:23 PM
- DO you think people would get excited if you showed them THIS graph? - Nick Hoffman - 5/5/2005 12:02:22 AM
  - I would. Seems to show a clear trend. - alcaray - 5/5/2005 3:32:16 PM
    - It's becoming harder to sweep the increase under the rug. - et - 5/5/2005 3:54:07 PM
  - don't be silly, Nick - R.L. - 5/5/2005 4:05:34 AM
  - Bollocks Nick. Bulldust. - et - 5/5/2005 1:54:54 AM
  - Well, yeah. - Tom Brosz - 5/5/2005 12:50:54 AM
    - Trying to sell something. - et - 5/5/2005 2:21:20 AM
- What I really don't understand - R.L. - 5/4/2005 9:40:28 PM
  - What you don't understand is that you aren't the problem. - Tom Brosz - 5/5/2005 12:48:55 AM
- R.L.s original post. - et - 5/4/2005 8:52:04 PM
- re: Anthropogenic CO2. - Sawyer - 5/4/2005 6:21:36 PM
  - Thank You - Scott Evil - 5/4/2005 9:35:30 PM
    - Too bad you seem to prefer the jungle.... - R.L. - 5/5/2005 6:08:34 AM
      - re: You sure get angry when told "The ain't a God" - Scott Evil - 5/5/2005 7:51:28 PM
        
        How could I get angry? "The ain't a God" is gibberish - R.L. - 5/6/2005 12:55:55 AM
    - Keep hope alive, dupe. (n/t) - et - 5/5/2005 2:02:43 AM
  - re: Anthropogenic CO2. - dtb - 5/4/2005 6:47:34 PM
  - There is nothing dishonest about using that graph - R.L. - 5/4/2005 6:46:33 PM
  - What makes that graph intellectually dishonest? (n/t) - et - 5/4/2005 6:30:25 PM
    - This. Another graph... - Tom Brosz - 5/4/2005 6:50:25 PM
      - scales - LJ - 5/4/2005 7:29:52 PM
        
        Of course the larger period of time in Tom's graph would also elimate any "noise" caused by periodic spikes that were much higher than tose you've indicated. - Scott Evil - 5/4/2005 9:57:46 PM
        
        All this proves is - R.L. - 5/4/2005 10:12:29 PM
        
        A little smug, aren't we? - Tom Brosz - 5/5/2005 6:10:27 PM
      - Another lame argument - R.L. - 5/4/2005 7:03:50 PM
        
        re: Another lame argument - gbaikie - 5/4/2005 9:42:04 PM
        
        Carbon monoxide and dioxide aren't the same. Check your NASA link. (n/t) - pwokenyaw - 5/4/2005 10:35:25 PM
        
        re: Carbon monoxide and dioxide aren't the same. Check your NASA link. - gbaikie - 5/4/2005 11:56:10 PM
        
        re: Another lame argument - R.L. - 5/4/2005 10:03:31 PM
        
        Uh...serious question - Tom Brosz - 5/5/2005 12:53:42 AM
        
        These games are getting old, Tom- as an engineer I would have expected more of you - R.L. - 5/5/2005 2:21:09 AM
        
        It's a legitmate question as to prehistory, but I don't think it affects the present debate - pwokenyaw - 5/5/2005 4:16:20 PM
        
        re: Another lame argument - gbaikie - 5/4/2005 10:54:07 PM
        
        as mentioned above, the global map is for CO, not CO2 (n/t) - pwokenyaw - 5/5/2005 12:08:10 AM
        
        re: as mentioned above, the global map is for CO, not CO2 - gbaikie - 5/5/2005 1:07:08 AM
        
        There hasn't been a huge change in the weather. - Scott Evil - 5/4/2005 9:39:15 PM
        
        I'm curious. - et - 5/5/2005 2:11:36 AM
        
        Hey...Maybe fat people cause global warming...Somebody draw a chart showing the average wt of a human vs. the mean global tempatures - Scott Evil - 5/4/2005 9:44:48 PM
        
        You really need to get an education on this topic before spouting off - R.L. - 5/5/2005 2:34:08 AM
- Whats the point, its not like people like Scott want the facts - R.L. - 5/4/2005 5:36:41 PM
  - Please help me...I have a Scientific Question... - Scott Evil - 5/4/2005 9:33:49 PM
    - re: Please help me...I have a Scientific Question... - gbaikie - 5/6/2005 9:54:02 AM
    - Ah- I see you LIKE playing the flippant ignorant jerk.... - R.L. - 5/4/2005 9:46:04 PM
      - So nobody knows is your answer... - Scott Evil - 5/4/2005 9:54:06 PM
        
        This website suggests the issue has been studied. - pwokenyaw - 5/4/2005 10:29:16 PM
        
        Nope, my point is we do know - R.L. - 5/4/2005 10:09:36 PM

Opportunity is stuck? - Raoul - 4/29/2005 5:41:25 AM
- Lookin' that way..... - et - 4/29/2005 4:49:00 PM
  - And this one... - et - 4/29/2005 5:02:05 PM
- re: Opportunity is stuck? - Buck Galaxy - 4/29/2005 6:10:38 AM
- I was worried about something like this. - Tom Brosz - 4/29/2005 6:03:33 AM
  - Life imitating art - ljk - 4/29/2005 5:22:28 PM
    - re: The Sands of Mars - Raoul - 4/29/2005 11:43:26 PM
    - I think we now know what the 'etched terrain' is....the hard way. (n/t) - Jacob Samorodin - 4/29/2005 7:10:42 PM
      - re: I think we now know what the 'etched terrain' is....the hard way. - Doug Ellison - 4/30/2005 4:10:45 PM
        
        Yipes! It gets worse? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 4/30/2005 5:06:38 PM
        
        re: Yipes! It gets worse? - Doug Ellison - 4/30/2005 9:33:30 PM
        
        re: Yipes! It gets worse? - TesticalSally - 5/6/2005 2:06:42 AM

MARSIS deployment begins tomorrow 5/2/05 - Sawyer - 5/1/2005 6:02:45 PM
- JimO on Canadian TV with hi-tech MARSIS prop - JimO - 5/3/2005 5:50:40 PM
  - Natasha Stillwell is an uber babe (n/t) - SDF - 5/4/2005 1:20:36 PM
- I've been waiting a long time for this - Buck Galaxy - 5/2/2005 5:30:34 AM
  - I've also been waiting a long time for this - Nick Hoffman - 5/2/2005 1:28:17 PM
    - Not everyone means liquid H2O when they use the word water. (n/t) - alcaray - 5/2/2005 8:52:27 PM
      - They do when they use radar. - Nick Hoffman - 5/3/2005 8:42:31 AM
        
        can i quote your predictions? - JimO - 5/5/2005 3:35:54 PM
        
        Quoting... - Nick Hoffman - 5/5/2005 4:01:49 PM
        
        re: Quoting... - JimO - 5/5/2005 4:33:50 PM
        
        re: Quoting... - Nick Hoffman - 5/5/2005 9:01:49 PM
        
        why subsurface water will be liquid - JimO - 5/4/2005 12:20:50 PM
        
        re: why subsurface water will be liquid - Nick Hoffman - 5/5/2005 7:30:47 AM
        
        why subsurface water DOESN'T HAVE TO be liquid - JimO - 5/5/2005 11:51:55 AM
        
        I don't think you are correct on many fronts - Sawyer - 5/3/2005 3:49:23 PM
        
        re: They do when they use radar. - alcaray - 5/3/2005 2:55:35 PM
        
        re: They do when they use radar. - Nick Hoffman - 5/3/2005 3:40:58 PM
        
        Lake Vostok - Nick Hoffman - 5/5/2005 7:38:27 AM
        
        To clarify - alcaray - 5/5/2005 3:57:17 PM
        
        So to tell if you are looking at basalt or h2o, all you have to do is... - alcaray - 5/3/2005 10:44:15 PM
        
        Re: All you have to do... - Nick Hoffman - 5/5/2005 7:33:41 AM
    - re: I've also been waiting a long time for this - p - 5/2/2005 6:26:17 PM

The revolution in astronomy spreads - R.L. - 5/5/2005 3:28:43 AM
- Just remember, dont cross the beams! - et - 5/5/2005 4:09:35 PM
  - Sodium is king - R.L. - 5/5/2005 7:47:11 PM

There is a mysterious brown stain in the Genesis science canister - ljk - 5/3/2005 5:23:49 PM
- It was produced by Genesis when it realized the parachute wouldn't open - pwokenyaw - 5/4/2005 4:46:14 PM
  - LOL!! Great. More coffee in the keyboard. - Tom Brosz - 5/4/2005 4:52:45 PM
    - Mine come from realizing I'm blowing another deadline by hanging out here in the HZ (n/t) - pwokenyaw - 5/4/2005 7:48:57 PM
- Mud smear? - Gary - 5/4/2005 5:48:15 AM
  - We have solar wind - ljk - 5/5/2005 7:15:20 PM

Saturn's rings, edge on and 3 moons! - Raoul - 5/5/2005 3:30:32 PM
- Are the rings seperated into two planes? - et - 5/5/2005 3:56:46 PM
  - re: Are the rings seperated into two planes? - Raoul - 5/5/2005 4:24:50 PM

M104-the Sombrero by Spitzer (4 MB)!! - Raoul - 5/5/2005 9:32:22 AM
- re: M104-the Sombrero by Spitzer (4 MB)!! - Raoul - 5/5/2005 9:37:54 AM
  - Space Day on Cinco de Mayo (image116KB for those who don't like large downloads) - SteveS - 5/5/2005 1:51:06 PM

In case some of you wondered why I detest pseudoscience so much, here is an example: - R.L. - 5/4/2005 4:10:14 AM
- good example of someone's ignorance - alcaray - 5/4/2005 3:33:07 PM
- This brings up an interesting point. - Jacob Samorodin - 5/4/2005 2:02:27 PM
- re: In case some of you wondered why I detest pseudoscience so much, here is an example: - SteveS - 5/4/2005 1:36:07 PM
- Aye! Kaumba! - Adam - 5/4/2005 11:17:42 AM
  - Yes but what if an ETI probe or outpost is there and we hit it? - ljk - 5/4/2005 1:39:44 PM
    - They'll blame the lasers. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 5/4/2005 6:55:50 PM
      - They always blame it on the laser... - R.L. - 5/5/2005 3:19:49 AM
    - Then R.L. will be abducted, and painfully probed. What's not to like? ;) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 5/4/2005 6:55:05 PM
      - Et Tu Brosz? - R.L. - 5/5/2005 3:46:24 AM
        
        Just keep a wary eye on that fondue fork. - Tom Brosz - 5/5/2005 5:11:04 AM
        
        No one forks with me... - R.L. - 5/5/2005 5:38:07 AM

SpaceX awarded $100 Million contract from USAF for Falcon 1. - Lee - 5/5/2005 3:59:05 AM

Your name to Pluto - Raoul - 5/4/2005 4:21:07 PM
- To the moon: "Alice." (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 5/4/2005 4:51:12 PM

Some recent global warming science. - et - 5/3/2005 3:18:17 PM
- re: Some recent global warming science. - gbaikie - 5/4/2005 2:11:02 AM
- re: Some recent global warming science. - DL - 5/3/2005 3:29:46 PM
  - Science schmience, makin money is all the reality some need. - et - 5/3/2005 3:50:26 PM
    - re: Science schmience - Tom Brosz - 5/3/2005 4:01:45 PM
      - Snark off.... - et - 5/3/2005 4:56:14 PM
        
        Whoa, was that lame. - Tom Brosz - 5/3/2005 5:09:05 PM
        
        You're right. (be sure to bookmark this) - et - 5/3/2005 5:21:00 PM
        
        Just keep your eyes open. - Tom Brosz - 5/3/2005 5:32:22 PM
        
        Tryin' to... - et - 5/3/2005 6:25:08 PM
      - attack on peer-reviewed study failed to submit to peer review - pwokenyaw - 5/3/2005 4:37:25 PM
        
        That's it? - Tom Brosz - 5/3/2005 7:53:47 PM
        
        More circularity - Tony - 5/4/2005 4:27:58 PM
        
        No, Tom - pwokenyaw - 5/4/2005 4:11:30 PM
  - Corrected HTML (?) - DL - 5/3/2005 3:31:27 PM

Looking for the Polar Lander - Tom Brosz - 5/3/2005 4:14:24 PM
- good to hear - Daniel - 5/4/2005 10:06:09 AM
  - re: good to hear - Doug Ellison - 5/4/2005 11:15:53 AM
    - in that case . - Daniel - 5/4/2005 1:33:54 PM
      - re: in that case . - Doug Ellison - 5/4/2005 1:45:16 PM
        
        didn't know that about MSSS - Daniel - 5/4/2005 2:58:07 PM
        
        re: didn't know that about MSSS - Doug Ellison - 5/4/2005 3:03:48 PM
- I wish they would also look for the Soviet Mars landers 2, 3, and 6 - ljk - 5/3/2005 5:29:02 PM
  - re: I wish they would also look for the Soviet Mars landers 2, 3, and 6 - Doug Ellison - 5/3/2005 6:16:20 PM
    - I wouldn't be too hasty about the dust. - Tom Brosz - 5/4/2005 12:36:26 AM
      - re:Wheel tracks - Raoul - 5/4/2005 5:34:53 AM
  - re: And Beagle 2 (n/t) - Raoul - 5/3/2005 5:47:55 PM
    - And the Face on Mars. - Tom Brosz - 5/4/2005 12:33:51 AM

Exoplanet properties... - Adam - 5/3/2005 3:11:09 AM
- Paper - Hot-Jupiters and hot-Neptunes: a common origin? - ljk - 5/4/2005 2:02:09 PM
- re: Exoplanet properties... - phil - 5/3/2005 6:21:16 PM

The lifting body - Raoul - 5/3/2005 5:46:18 PM
- Looks like the craft from the original Planet of the Apes. (n/t) - Lee - 5/4/2005 7:47:17 AM
  - I do not concur with that assessment - ljk - 5/4/2005 1:44:37 PM
- This is a good thing - Gary - 5/4/2005 4:10:55 AM
- ASSET and PRIME - Larry J - 5/4/2005 12:39:21 AM
- Holy 1970 Batman! Lockmart re-invents the Dynasoar! - phil - 5/3/2005 6:08:16 PM
  - re: Kliper - Raoul - 5/3/2005 7:17:13 PM
    - NASA and its contractors have "invented" the small spaceplane about a dozen times. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 5/3/2005 10:54:02 PM
      - re: NASA and its contractors have "invented" the small spaceplane about a dozen times. - RobVG - 5/4/2005 2:30:28 AM

Paper on Saturn's mysterious moon, Iapetus - ljk - 5/3/2005 12:57:51 PM
- That's a joke, right? - et - 5/3/2005 2:45:45 PM
  - re: That's a joke, right? - ljk - 5/3/2005 4:01:49 PM
    - I'd be sceptical of this claim. (n/t) - et - 5/3/2005 5:08:37 PM
      - the paper itself - phil - 5/3/2005 7:08:10 PM
      - re: I'd be sceptical of this claim. - ljk - 5/3/2005 5:11:19 PM
        
        Intelligent Intervention? - End Transmission - 5/3/2005 5:25:06 PM
        
        That's perfect! - jms - 5/4/2005 3:52:47 AM
        
        Maglev Ramp - Adam - 5/3/2005 10:41:08 PM
        
        My guess, and it's a wild-assed one - Tom Brosz - 5/4/2005 12:40:37 AM
        
        An even more wild assed guess... - Gary - 5/4/2005 4:13:22 AM
        
        Exactly... - Adam - 5/4/2005 11:23:16 AM

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