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Saddam is being mistreated by USA - David F Mayer - 6/24/2004 3:26:32 AM

MOD Investigating Reports of British Soldiers Mutilating Iraqis - Lindy - 6/22/2004 3:41:57 AM
- PURE SILENCE, no comments, no outrage... - Lindy - 6/23/2004 1:47:08 PM
  - re: PURE SILENCE, no comments, no outrage... - gbaikie - 6/23/2004 8:02:34 PM
  - Kind of puts to light of things...doesn't it. - SteveS - 6/23/2004 7:43:04 PM

Another Bush Legacy: Toxic Pollution Increases 5% - Donald - 6/23/2004 12:44:58 AM
- Yet another article you should have read prior to posting. (n/t) - ebnelson - 6/23/2004 12:27:18 PM
- Another set of very questionable statistics. Sounds more like a push poll than science. - ebnelson - 6/23/2004 12:24:17 PM
- Meanwhile: Terrorism Rises Under Bush Presidency - Donald - 6/23/2004 12:50:44 AM
  - And what thinking person beleives fighting goes down during a war? (n/t) - ebnelson - 6/23/2004 12:28:54 PM
    - the same ones who touted last years report as being a major Bush success....... (n/t) - Tony - 6/23/2004 1:43:37 PM
  - Still, no terrorist attacks in America or Brittan since 9/11 - REB - 6/23/2004 11:54:38 AM
    - O.K., So how many were there before 9/11? (n/t) - Publius - 6/23/2004 5:25:07 PM
      - re: O.K., So how many were there before 9/11? - REB - 6/23/2004 5:52:36 PM

Perspective on the threat to civilization - p - 6/22/2004 5:33:05 PM
- Certainly worthy of Goebbels. - Bowser - 6/23/2004 3:47:59 AM
- re: Sovereign states - Raoul - 6/22/2004 9:30:43 PM
  - Interesting Article Phil - Lindy - 6/23/2004 1:37:53 AM
- Perspective, or...? - S - 6/22/2004 7:56:16 PM
  - re: Perspective, or...? - p - 6/22/2004 9:19:58 PM
    - Word games, or...? - S - 6/22/2004 9:53:10 PM
      - re: Word games, or...? - phil - 6/23/2004 2:05:15 PM
        
        re: Word games, or...? - FrankC - 6/23/2004 4:02:28 PM
- Excellent read, thanks Phil - SteveS - 6/22/2004 6:41:42 PM
- And the prescription for disfunction is intervention. (n/t) - FrankC - 6/22/2004 6:05:36 PM
- Thanks for an interesting article, worth the read..... (n/t) - Publius - 6/22/2004 5:39:41 PM

CIA: No Iraqi officer link in al-Qaida meeting - Bowser - 6/22/2004 1:10:21 PM
- Another al Qaeda link suspected - S - 6/22/2004 10:47:18 PM
- They must not have seen the new evidence. - REB - 6/22/2004 1:53:27 PM
  - Mr. Lehman' s statement includes this phrase: " That still has to be confirmed." - Mary Anne - 6/22/2004 6:21:21 PM
    - Names - Tom Brosz - 6/23/2004 1:57:52 AM
      - Tom! your back. - REB - 6/23/2004 11:56:39 AM
    - Yes it does. And I mention that in the post above. - REB - 6/22/2004 6:30:35 PM
- Al Qaeda Link Exists - REB - 6/22/2004 1:36:50 PM
  - Iran and Pakistan - Donald - 6/22/2004 1:57:57 PM
    - re: Iran and Pakistan - REB - 6/22/2004 2:41:20 PM
      - You are right, we can whisper that Bush was lying...... - Publius - 6/22/2004 5:33:49 PM
        
        Whisper all you want, and keep fooling yourself. - REB - 6/22/2004 5:43:29 PM

More lies... - Derek - 6/21/2004 2:28:04 PM
- The only one who has been lying is the New York Times. - REB - 6/21/2004 3:15:00 PM
  - They were hoping their big lie spam would do the trick and failed - ebnelson - 6/22/2004 2:57:24 AM
    - re: They were hoping their big lie spam would do the trick and failed - REB - 6/22/2004 11:58:35 AM
  - Also in today's New York Post... - Robert - 6/21/2004 5:09:57 PM
    - re: Also in today's New York Post... - REB - 6/21/2004 5:48:55 PM
      - Opinion versus fact - Robert - 6/21/2004 6:31:55 PM
    - "There never was any connection between Iraq and al Qaeda" - RobVG - 6/21/2004 5:35:55 PM
      - "connection" vs. "link" - Robert - 6/21/2004 6:24:23 PM
        
        The old Clinton Word Game- how fun. - REB - 6/21/2004 7:24:30 PM
        
        re: "connection" vs. "link" - gbaikie - 6/21/2004 6:41:30 PM
        
        Sources? No problem. - Robert - 6/21/2004 7:06:07 PM
        
        re: Sources? No problem. - gbaikie - 6/22/2004 12:32:52 AM
        
        More - gbaikie - 6/23/2004 4:20:10 AM
        
        re: Sources? No problem. - Robert - 6/22/2004 1:45:16 AM
        
        Dogged pursuit of semantic exoneration - gbaikie - 6/22/2004 7:40:05 AM
        
        re: Dogged pursuit of semantic exoneration - REB - 6/22/2004 12:01:18 PM
        
        "long-established ties" -Cheney - RobVG - 6/21/2004 7:33:53 PM
        
        Word games - SteveS - 6/21/2004 11:19:51 PM
        
        re: Word games - REB - 6/22/2004 12:16:33 PM
      - Did you not read the excerpt? (n/t) - alcaray - 6/21/2004 6:23:57 PM
        
        Yeah, I did - RobVG - 6/21/2004 6:57:44 PM
        
        What I'm missing: - alcaray - 6/21/2004 9:07:27 PM
        
        Commissioner John Lehman - RobVG - 6/22/2004 3:44:25 AM
        
        I thought we were waiting for the report. - alcaray - 6/22/2004 3:46:07 PM
        
        We are ;) - RobVG - 6/22/2004 4:06:40 PM
        
        Nice to see Clinton no longer being accused.... - Tony - 6/22/2004 9:16:37 PM
        
        New evidence, doncha know. (n/t) - alcaray - 6/22/2004 10:55:29 PM
        
        re: Commissioner John Lehman - REB - 6/22/2004 11:51:42 AM
        
        --- - RobVG - 6/21/2004 10:03:59 PM
        
        fair enough (n/t) - alcaray - 6/21/2004 10:14:53 PM
  - re: If what the WH says is true - Raoul - 6/21/2004 4:40:06 PM
    - re: If what the WH says is true - REB - 6/21/2004 4:49:22 PM
      - You've lost this argument REB - Lindy - 6/21/2004 5:19:37 PM
        
        And the UFOs told you this? (n/t) - ebnelson - 6/22/2004 2:59:19 AM
        
        How? - REB - 6/21/2004 5:41:59 PM
        
        That is becoming more apparent daily - ebnelson - 6/22/2004 3:01:39 AM

450 Harvard Lawyers Demand Accountability for the Abuses at Abu Garaib - Lindy - 6/20/2004 5:41:01 PM
- Sitting in their comfortable, air-conditioned offices in the USA, they have absolutely no idea of the kind of pressure that was placed upon our troopers by constant terrorist attacks. They were order… - David F Mayer - 6/21/2004 7:57:28 PM
  - Aha! OK, we agree. It's the CiC and his henchmen who are responsible. - Bowser - 6/22/2004 12:27:59 AM
  - Republican version of "I'm innocent because I had a lousy childhood!" - alcaray - 6/21/2004 11:05:28 PM
    - Isn't that Clinton's claim of reason for his shady actions? - SteveS - 6/22/2004 3:02:51 PM
      - Shady? - Lindy - 6/22/2004 8:20:20 PM
        
        re: Shady? - SteveS - 6/22/2004 9:44:44 PM
      - Some say so. Doubt I will read it to find out. (n/t) - alcaray - 6/22/2004 5:15:32 PM
    - Geee Officer Krumpkie................... - Publius - 6/22/2004 2:14:26 AM

Yikes! More Sweeping Changes by Bush? - Jack Herer - 6/22/2004 8:15:35 PM
- Wrong link - Lindy - 6/22/2004 8:30:54 PM

South korean hostage may still be alive - R.L. - 6/22/2004 9:24:32 AM
- The bastards killed him - R,L, - 6/22/2004 4:59:11 PM
  - re: The bastards killed him - REB - 6/22/2004 6:18:56 PM
- re: South korean hostage may still be alive - SteveS - 6/22/2004 2:05:23 PM
  - Anyone seen helping the Americans...... - Lindy - 6/22/2004 4:19:18 PM
    - rightly so? - SteveS - 6/22/2004 6:06:37 PM

"The Australian Government's case for war in Iraq has been "blown apart" - Bowser - 6/18/2004 3:06:51 AM
- the US/Australia alliance - Daniel L - 6/18/2004 6:30:47 AM
- From "no strong links" to "no link" is such an easy misdirection - ebnelson - 6/18/2004 3:53:08 AM
  - "Party on" until we lose a city - Gary - 6/18/2004 5:19:54 AM
    - The Left's agenda is power. - Lee - 6/18/2004 6:54:57 AM
      - re: All just plain BS. Our agenda is removing George Bush from power... (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 6/19/2004 6:57:34 AM
      - " The Left's agenda is power" ROTFLMAO - Lindy - 6/18/2004 4:08:56 PM
      - This from a lover of the Nazis - can we say irony? - R.L. - 6/18/2004 8:38:24 AM
        
        My side isn't the one advocating letting kids vote. - Lee - 6/18/2004 10:12:59 PM
        
        "My side"?? What the hell does that mean? - Daniel L - 6/19/2004 4:58:00 AM
        
        Beats the hell out of me... - FrankC - 6/19/2004 6:28:55 AM
        
        Frank - - Daniel L - 6/20/2004 5:58:10 AM
        
        Ever hear of the 1st Amendment? - RobVG - 6/21/2004 3:58:12 PM
        
        Keep your patronizing arrogance to yourself! - Daniel L - 6/22/2004 4:04:49 AM
        
        Were you trying to say something? (n/t) - RobVG - 6/22/2004 5:18:59 AM
        
        Don't dissemble - address the point please - Daniel L - 6/22/2004 5:45:05 AM
        
        Let me backup. - RobVG - 6/22/2004 5:41:32 AM
        
        Ok Rob - my apologies. I didn't see your post here. - Daniel L - 6/22/2004 5:50:53 AM
        
        Thanks for that. - RobVG - 6/22/2004 3:49:41 PM
        
        You've given me the chance to explain - - Daniel L - 6/22/2004 6:17:01 PM
        
        Just a couple of points - FrankC - 6/20/2004 3:02:24 PM
        
        Thanks for that (n/t) - Daniel L - 6/21/2004 4:22:34 AM
        
        Let me be blunt, as is so unlike me... (was that sarcasm?) - R.L. - 6/20/2004 7:55:45 AM
        
        And now you show your bias. - Lee - 6/20/2004 6:53:02 PM
        
        do you mean Sir Anthony Blunt ..? - Daniel L - 6/20/2004 11:40:16 AM
        
        BTW Frank is correct regarding .. - Daniel L - 6/20/2004 11:57:34 AM
        
        Frank, you know me better than most. - Lee - 6/19/2004 9:35:11 PM
        
        No that doesn't work either. - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/20/2004 7:43:27 PM
        
        maybe, maybe not - FrankC - 6/20/2004 12:45:16 AM
        
        I like "Bulworth's" philosophy... - RobVG - 6/21/2004 8:59:04 PM
        
        Who would be spreading the conflict? - Lee - 6/20/2004 3:01:10 AM
        
        Eternity is a long time - FrankC - 6/20/2004 3:37:32 PM
        
        Oh, DO tell me what 'MY SIDE' is.. - R.L. - 6/18/2004 11:36:21 PM
        
        Because I don't follow your world view. - Lee - 6/19/2004 2:16:44 AM
        
        You aren't just a Nazi, but a retarded illiterate one too - R.L. - 6/20/2004 3:02:54 AM
        
        So you're saying that you never make typos? I could easily find quite a few by you. (n/t) - Lee - 6/20/2004 3:51:13 AM
        
        Funny how you didnt address the points :) - R.L. - 6/20/2004 4:03:39 AM
        
        Funny how you didn't answer the question. - Lee - 6/20/2004 4:10:19 AM
        
        You are denser than a neutron star - R.L. - 6/20/2004 6:52:33 AM
        
        No, you're just a hypocritical fool. - Lee - 6/20/2004 7:15:09 AM
        
        MAN YOU ARE DESPERATE - R.L. - 6/20/2004 8:17:09 AM
        
        :) Point to one post in your support.... - R.L. - 6/20/2004 8:10:38 AM
        
        You're the one resorting to profanity every other word. - Lee - 6/20/2004 7:03:18 PM
        
        funny, not one curse word in that post- guess you stoll cant read, kid (n/t) - R.L. - 6/20/2004 11:31:34 PM
        
        F.O.A.D. Guess you didn't want to chance spelling it. - Lee - 6/21/2004 3:07:24 AM
        
        Lee in Non-Sequiter-Land - Mary Anne - 6/19/2004 12:10:44 PM

Retired Diplomats, Military Commanders Fault Bush's Leadership - Lindy - 6/17/2004 8:43:41 PM
- Ayn Rand Institute assaults Bush's faith-based attack on the Constitution..... - Publius - 6/18/2004 2:04:18 AM
  - Ayn Rand (Alice Rosenbaum) has an Institute? That clown with the Dollar Sign jewelery? What a laugh! (n/t) - David F Mayer - 6/22/2004 2:02:52 PM
- And these are mostly Republicans, officials of Bush 1 and Bush 2. (n/t) - Bowser - 6/18/2004 1:20:19 AM

U.S. Trucks Carrying Radioactive Materials Intercepted In Iraq-Kuwait Border - Derek - 6/16/2004 11:49:47 PM
- IF (and that is a big if) it is true, it is most likely Cobalt-60 for X-ray of welds. - David F Mayer - 6/22/2004 1:56:53 PM
- Look at your source. Notice there are no other newsites carrying this bogus story. - jr - 6/17/2004 11:19:58 PM
- It's about time! - Bowser - 6/17/2004 4:45:05 AM
  - re: It's about time! - Pete Stanley - 6/17/2004 9:39:23 AM
    - Bush's integrity.......... - Publius - 6/18/2004 1:50:32 AM
    - Well reasoned. (And it was Mencken.) - Bowser - 6/17/2004 6:34:58 PM
    - Twain didn't say it... - FrankC - 6/17/2004 4:49:08 PM
- Iran's Interior Minister Criticizes Western War on Drugs, Terrorism - Success_Machine - 6/17/2004 2:41:21 AM

South (real) Korea refuses to give in to terrorism - David F Mayer - 6/21/2004 7:44:19 PM
- Reagan said the same thing, while he bargained arms for hostages. - Bowser - 6/22/2004 4:53:41 AM
- Lets keep in mind that that poor guy is losing his head - R.L. - 6/22/2004 4:33:12 AM
  - That came out badly, I was NOT trying to make a joke with my subject line - R.L. - 6/22/2004 4:44:51 AM

MSNBC-ABC poll - "Bush loses advantage in war on terrorism" - Bowser - 6/22/2004 4:49:11 AM

The China Price - interesting article by, of all people, Ralph Nader - Bowser - 6/22/2004 4:25:32 AM

846 - Donald - 6/22/2004 2:20:18 AM

Advanced Paranoia in Action: Saudi Government Accuses Israel and Zionism of Being Behind Al Qaeda ! - David F Mayer - 6/20/2004 3:52:12 AM
- Yeah, those sneaky Jews were behind that Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction event, too (n/t) - Al-Dinosaura - 6/21/2004 5:22:34 AM
  - Probably want to talk to Benny about that! (n/t) (n/t) - E.P. Grondine - 6/22/2004 2:12:41 AM
- re: Advanced Paranoia in Action: many Americans believe the same thing - E.P. Grondine - 6/21/2004 4:48:31 AM
- It's a very clever tactic. - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/20/2004 9:17:15 PM
  - It's almost Byzantine if true. - Lee - 6/21/2004 2:59:28 AM
- Possibly only democrats can be in denial to this extent. (n/t) - ebnelson - 6/20/2004 3:35:58 PM
  - And the Saudis are *whose* buddies? - Mary Anne - 6/20/2004 5:05:54 PM
    - Kerry claims they are his buddies. - REB - 6/21/2004 12:15:54 PM
    - re: And the Saudis are *whose* buddies? - State Dept Arabists consistent with EVERY administration (n/t) - p - 6/20/2004 11:01:00 PM
      - Are business relationships outside of politics also consistent with every administration? - Mary Anne - 6/21/2004 1:44:41 AM

USA Scores a Direct Hit Against Iraqi Terrorists - David F Mayer - 6/21/2004 1:13:06 PM
- re: USA Scores a Direct Hit Against Iraqi Terrorists - Perspective - 6/22/2004 2:05:01 AM

Panel to Cheney - Put up. - Bowser - 6/20/2004 6:40:25 PM
- And if he did, you would say its nothing. - REB - 6/21/2004 3:21:32 PM
  - And if it was nothing, you would say it was something. (n/t) - alcaray - 6/21/2004 10:20:21 PM

9/11 Commission says there is a link between Al Qaeda and Iraq. - REB - 6/21/2004 12:10:24 PM
- Link between America and al Qaeda! - Robert - 6/21/2004 5:29:40 PM
  - It's clear the only desperation eperienced is by the left in the attempt to quash any justification for the war. (n/t) - RobVG - 6/21/2004 6:05:07 PM
    - I believe the word you're looking for is "debunk" - Robert - 6/21/2004 6:48:02 PM
  - Now you are getting desperate with a subject heading like that - REB - 6/21/2004 6:04:35 PM
    - Let me spell it out for you - Robert - 6/21/2004 6:44:46 PM
      - re: Let me spell it out for you - REB - 6/21/2004 6:59:15 PM
        
        re: Let me spell it out for you - Robert - 6/21/2004 7:24:48 PM
- Of COURSE there was a link - LJ - 6/21/2004 3:58:06 PM
  - re: Of COURSE there was a link - REB - 6/21/2004 4:38:13 PM
    - fascinating interpretation (n/t) - LJ - 6/21/2004 4:44:42 PM
      - Thank you. - REB - 6/21/2004 4:51:31 PM
        
        spelling things out - LJ - 6/21/2004 5:13:49 PM
        
        re: spelling things out - REB - 6/21/2004 5:52:12 PM
        
        do you work as press liason at the White House? - LJ - 6/21/2004 6:40:47 PM
        
        Nope. I wish I did. - REB - 6/21/2004 7:07:01 PM
- After all this time - one common name, no evidence of cooperation. - Bowser - 6/21/2004 1:27:06 PM
  - I knew you would say that- just one name. - REB - 6/21/2004 3:06:13 PM

Good article on Iraq - Daniel L - 6/21/2004 8:03:43 AM
- Thought-provoking. (n/t) - Bowser - 6/21/2004 1:31:22 PM

The democrat stand on pre-emption - ebnelson - 6/20/2004 4:03:38 AM
- Politics - FrankC - 6/20/2004 3:49:15 PM
  - re: Politics and doubt - Raoul - 6/20/2004 6:31:10 PM
    - Good quote---thanks................. (n/t) - Publius - 6/20/2004 9:09:56 PM

Bubba's book - gbaikie - 6/20/2004 3:58:47 AM
- re: Bubba's book - McFly - 6/20/2004 3:11:55 PM

Conservatives set to retake Canada - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/20/2004 1:12:33 AM
- re: Conservatives set to retake Canada - McFly - 6/20/2004 3:02:24 PM
- Decent people tired of their country becoming a drug haven (n/t) - Lee - 6/20/2004 2:47:57 AM

Non-lethal crowd control weapons developed - p - 6/19/2004 1:57:53 AM
- Just like rubber bullets, only with electricity. - Mary Anne - 6/19/2004 11:25:00 AM
  - re: Just like rubber bullets, only with electricity. - p - 6/19/2004 12:41:51 PM
    - I have a better idea - Mary Anne - 6/19/2004 5:11:59 PM
      - Micks? - Lindy - 6/20/2004 4:41:06 AM
        
        If she has red hair, she'd better watch out. - Mary Anne - 6/20/2004 12:53:08 PM
- The bane of radicals - FrankC - 6/19/2004 2:29:58 AM

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