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Martha Stewart 2 be indicted....... - Carl - 6/3/2003 5:36:19 PM
- re: Martha Stewart 2 be indicted....... - phil - 6/3/2003 5:44:45 PM
  - OMNIMEDIA Stock KAPUT-ski - carl - 6/3/2003 6:15:31 PM
    - re: OMNIMEDIA Stock KAPUT-ski - Scott Evil - 6/3/2003 9:31:17 PM

Lawmakers Question White House on Iraq Arms - Don - 6/3/2003 12:26:28 AM
- Shell games - LJ - 6/3/2003 3:45:31 PM
  - re: Shell games - Raoul - 6/3/2003 9:23:15 PM
    - Thanks, Raoul - one of those days.... (n/t) - LJ - 6/3/2003 9:27:18 PM
  - I give up - LJ - 6/3/2003 5:22:35 PM
- Liberating Iraq was still the right thing to do - Larry J - 6/3/2003 2:17:55 PM
  - The right's new found concern for the Iraqi people is touching - Tony - 6/3/2003 2:23:48 PM
    - The left's new found indignation about supporting regimes with a history of tyranny is hilarious (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 6/3/2003 3:12:11 PM
      - The right's tendency to change a story when the facts are in or inability to admit a past mistake continues - Tony - 6/3/2003 4:12:35 PM
- re: Lawmakers Question White House on Iraq Arms - ebnelson - 6/3/2003 3:30:12 AM
  - And then there's this... - Don - 6/3/2003 4:12:39 AM
  - re: re: Lawmakers Question White House on Iraq Arms - Don - 6/3/2003 4:04:57 AM
- Preemption and the quality intelligence - Robert - 6/3/2003 1:00:44 AM
  - re: Preemption and the quality intelligence - gbaikie - 6/3/2003 7:21:37 AM
  - Big deal, one less SOB in the world. - Lee - 6/3/2003 3:51:21 AM
  - Dignity returned to the White House - Don - 6/3/2003 1:57:53 AM
    - Like I told Davin, Unless you have some proof, I would keep the word "lie" out of this argument. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 6/3/2003 4:37:41 AM
      - Getting concerned, Tom? Positioning yourself to play Defense for your boy already? (n/t) - Davin L. - 6/3/2003 2:07:56 PM
  - And its getting uglier - Don - 6/3/2003 1:23:18 AM

Aussies fail under stiff assault by US troops - p - 6/3/2003 9:08:11 PM

U.S. Troops Captured, Let Go by Iranians . . . - D. Spires - 6/3/2003 8:28:29 PM

Wolfowitz Highlights Saddam Hussein's Terrorist Links - REB - 6/3/2003 6:43:40 PM

Another report out of Iraq - Tom Brosz - 6/3/2003 5:01:22 PM

LEIU - Protest - RobVG - 6/3/2003 4:04:08 PM
- re: LEIU - Protest - p - 6/3/2003 4:20:46 PM

Anti-semetic? You be the judge - p - 6/2/2003 6:55:02 PM
- re: Anti-semetic? You be the judge Another opinion - p - 6/3/2003 1:07:10 PM
- Got the joke but where's the outrage? - Tony - 6/2/2003 7:04:04 PM
  - I agree - where's the outrage? - Fox - 6/2/2003 9:18:11 PM
    - It's the money thing? - Tony - 6/2/2003 9:24:19 PM
      - That is one massive hooked honker. (n/t) (n/t) - Lee - 6/2/2003 11:02:27 PM
      - re: It's the money thing? - Tom Brosz - 6/2/2003 9:30:59 PM
        
        B*lls - Tony - 6/3/2003 2:07:48 PM
        
        re: B*lls - Tom Brosz - 6/3/2003 3:22:57 PM
        
        Sigh. - Tony - 6/3/2003 4:09:20 PM
        
        re: someone else's ox - Fox - 6/2/2003 11:45:33 PM
        
        re: someone else's ox - Tom Brosz - 6/3/2003 4:13:07 AM
        
        What about the patch? - FrankC - 6/3/2003 1:09:39 AM
        
        re: What about the patch? - Fox - 6/3/2003 2:30:28 AM
        
        I think it would be hard to do a caricature of Sharon with a tiny nose. (n/t) - alcaray - 6/2/2003 11:41:55 PM
        
        His nose isn't that big... - Larry J - 6/3/2003 2:02:20 PM
        
        I hear what say about portraits of "typical" representatives of a group - alcaray - 6/3/2003 3:06:24 PM
        
        A good point... - Tom Brosz - 6/3/2003 3:34:02 PM
- re: Anti-semetic? You be the judge 2nd try - p - 6/2/2003 6:57:57 PM
  - re: re: Anti-semetic? You be the judge 2nd try - p - 6/2/2003 6:58:54 PM

Economy is improving - REB - 6/3/2003 1:48:27 PM

Chirac backs Bush in Middle East peace effort - REB - 6/3/2003 1:22:05 PM

U.S. Soldier Killed in Checkpoint Attack in Iraq - Don - 6/3/2003 12:36:50 PM

Islamist hydra raises another head in Pakistan - Tom Brosz - 6/3/2003 4:55:03 AM

Tony Blair in Iraq - Tom Brosz - 6/1/2003 1:50:17 AM
- Looks just like the pictures of Saddam in Iraq... So what is the point you were trying to make? (n/t) - Davin L. - 6/1/2003 8:05:37 PM
  - re: Looks just like the pictures of Saddam in Iraq... So what is the point you were trying to make? - Tom Brosz - 6/1/2003 8:08:23 PM
    - re: re: Looks just like the pictures of Saddam in Iraq... So what is the point you were trying to make? - Davin L. - 6/1/2003 8:19:21 PM
      - re: So what is the point - Tom Brosz - 6/1/2003 9:54:09 PM
        
        re: All true -- but wasted breath, Tom . . . (n/t) (n/t) - D. Spires - 6/1/2003 11:00:49 PM
        
        re: re: So what is the point - Davin L. - 6/1/2003 10:53:33 PM
        
        re: re: re: So what is the point - Tom Brosz - 6/1/2003 11:06:14 PM
        
        now your willfully misconstruing the point I'm making - Davin L. - 6/1/2003 11:11:23 PM
        
        re: now your willfully misconstruing the point I'm making - gbaikie - 6/2/2003 1:59:09 AM
      - re: re: re: Looks just like the pictures of Saddam in Iraq... So what is the point you were trying to make? - Mark Eby - 6/1/2003 9:13:49 PM
        
        Oh, don't even try to trot that old mule out. Its just as bogus now as it was 40 years ago - Davin L. - 6/1/2003 9:32:56 PM
        
        re: Oh, don't even try to trot that old mule out. Its just as bogus now as it was 40 years ago - Mark Eby - 6/1/2003 11:02:01 PM
        
        Well, respectfully Mark: - Davin L. - 6/2/2003 3:50:29 AM
        
        re: Well, respectfully Mark: - Mark Eby - 6/3/2003 3:40:02 AM
- How many of those kids will be voting Labour in Britain's next electon? (n/t) - Fox - 6/1/2003 6:18:20 AM
  - None. That's kind of the point, isn't it? No political ulterior motive. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 6/1/2003 6:37:47 AM
    - Yeah, right... - Fox - 6/1/2003 7:34:22 PM
      - re: Absolutely . . . - D. Spires - 6/1/2003 10:55:13 PM
- Sock It To Em Tom - Mark Eby - 6/1/2003 3:04:48 AM

Pressure builds on U.S. to explain lack of Iraq weapons - Don - 6/1/2003 7:16:55 PM
- re: The Loser! - D. Spires - 6/1/2003 9:57:56 PM
- The Winner! - Tom Brosz - 6/1/2003 8:06:24 PM
  - So... - Davin L. - 6/1/2003 8:26:05 PM
    - re: Lewinsky flap . . . - D. Spires - 6/1/2003 10:12:04 PM
    - Repeating lie doesn't make it the truth - Larry J - 6/1/2003 9:50:10 PM
      - re: Repeating lie doesn't make it the truth - Davin L. - 6/1/2003 10:10:55 PM
        
        re: Far from . . . - D. Spires - 6/1/2003 10:30:46 PM
        
        re: re: Far from . . . - Davin L. - 6/1/2003 10:40:50 PM
        
        re: The facts remain . . . - D. Spires - 6/1/2003 10:47:45 PM
        
        re: re: The facts remain . . . - Davin L. - 6/1/2003 10:59:42 PM
        
        A P.S. - Davin L. - 6/1/2003 11:44:15 PM
        
        Argh! Links again - Davin L. - 6/1/2003 11:47:58 PM
        
        re: The facts . . . - D. Spires - 6/1/2003 11:12:34 PM
        
        re: re: The facts . . . - Davin L. - 6/1/2003 11:20:47 PM
        
        re: Please be clear . . . - D. Spires - 6/2/2003 12:09:36 AM
        
        re: re: Please be clear . . . - Davin L. - 6/2/2003 12:51:36 AM
        
        re: Ditto to you and yours . . . - D. Spires - 6/2/2003 1:16:34 AM
        
        Dan, no comparisons are possible! - Davin L. - 6/2/2003 3:04:44 AM
        
        re: Yes, of course . . . - D. Spires - 6/2/2003 11:53:33 PM
        
        re: The 'quick google' is here . . . - D. Spires - 6/2/2003 12:13:56 AM
    - re: So... - Tom Brosz - 6/1/2003 9:48:48 PM
      - re: re: So... - McFly - 6/1/2003 10:34:14 PM
        
        Check the source - Tom Brosz - 6/1/2003 10:58:56 PM
        
        re: re: re: So... - Davin L. - 6/1/2003 10:42:37 PM
        
        re: If mistaken, it is not a ploy . . . - D. Spires - 6/1/2003 10:39:27 PM
        
        If its a mistake, its just manslaughter, not pre-meditated homicide. (n/t) - Davin L. - 6/1/2003 11:36:03 PM
        
        re: Then every polititian in the world should be in prison . . . - D. Spires - 6/2/2003 12:16:23 AM
        
        No, Dan- Just the ones who take us to war without doing due dilligence and act with criminal negligence - Davin L. - 6/2/2003 12:54:30 AM
        
        re: What of guilt through negligence, or inaction . . . ? - D. Spires - 6/2/2003 1:13:24 AM
        
        re: re: What of guilt through negligence, or inaction . . . ? - Davin L. - 6/2/2003 3:14:49 AM
        
        re: Funny . . . - D. Spires - 6/3/2003 12:06:38 AM
      - re: re: So... - Davin L. - 6/1/2003 10:14:36 PM
        
        Lying - Tom Brosz - 6/1/2003 10:19:43 PM
        
        re: Lying - Davin L. - 6/1/2003 10:34:41 PM
        
        re: Lying - Tom Brosz - 6/1/2003 11:03:10 PM
        
        Got links? - Davin L. - 6/1/2003 11:05:02 PM
        
        re: Got links? - Tom Brosz - 6/2/2003 3:48:07 AM
        
        re: re: Got links? - Davin L. - 6/2/2003 4:05:53 AM

U.S. Seeks Ability to 'Take Down' N. Korea Quickly . . . - D. Spires - 6/2/2003 10:38:02 PM

Senate to Probe Iraq Weapons Intelligence - Don - 6/2/2003 1:05:01 PM
- Put pressure on the expansionist faction in Israel, and this kind of crap is what you can expect - E.P. Grondine - 6/2/2003 6:44:55 PM
- Banned Iraq weapons? Bush points to mobile labs - Don - 6/2/2003 1:08:21 PM
  - Thanks Don, that was a very interesting piece! (n/t) - Davin L. - 6/2/2003 2:07:26 PM
  - Exaggerated claims - Don - 6/2/2003 1:34:22 PM
    - The Big Lie makes a pretty tiny fig leaf. n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 6/2/2003 6:05:57 PM

Bushplomacy - LJ - 6/2/2003 5:10:20 PM

Baghdad a city in chaos - Don - 6/2/2003 1:02:38 PM
- Trains ran on time under Mussolini, too. - Tom Brosz - 6/2/2003 3:44:12 PM
  - Can't resist... - Davin L. - 6/2/2003 4:55:21 PM
  - re: Antwerp under the V2 - Raoul - 6/2/2003 4:16:34 PM

Andrew Sullivan on WMD - Tom Brosz - 6/2/2003 5:12:56 AM
- re: Andrew Sullivan on WMD - Raoul - 6/2/2003 5:43:09 AM
  - re: re: Andrew Sullivan on WMD - gbaikie - 6/2/2003 6:29:42 AM

Note on Iran and stealing big time in Angola - Hans - 6/2/2003 4:29:36 AM
- A two edged sword for Iran. - Lee - 6/2/2003 6:09:36 AM

Good article on farm subsidies and who they hurt - Tom Brosz - 6/2/2003 5:03:16 AM

A little bit late for this - Don - 6/1/2003 12:49:54 AM
- they need some time to generate (fabricate) something for the masses (n/t) - TJ - 6/1/2003 4:16:59 AM
  - Too late for that, too - Fox - 6/1/2003 6:31:30 AM
- re: A little bit late for this - Mark Eby - 6/1/2003 3:07:38 AM
  - Oh So Easy - Mark Eby - 6/1/2003 8:23:34 PM
    - Do you actually believe that? - Davin L. - 6/1/2003 8:42:11 PM
      - No Problem - Mark Eby - 6/1/2003 9:24:06 PM
        
        re: Trust - Raoul - 6/1/2003 10:08:31 PM
        
        re: No Problem - Davin L. - 6/1/2003 9:44:05 PM
        
        Idiotic - Mark Eby - 6/1/2003 11:07:17 PM
        
        re: Idiotic - Davin L. - 6/1/2003 11:15:00 PM
        
        re: Idiotic - Davin L. - 6/1/2003 11:14:35 PM
        
        Pointless - Mark Eby - 6/2/2003 3:43:13 AM
        
        re: Pointless - Davin L. - 6/2/2003 4:26:54 AM
        
        re: No Problem - Tom Brosz - 6/1/2003 10:01:25 PM
        
        re: re: No Problem - Davin L. - 6/1/2003 10:24:33 PM
  - re: re: A little bit late for this - Davin L. - 6/1/2003 8:03:59 PM

'Mr. Oâ€™Neill, who was fired last December, refused to comment.' - alcaray - 5/29/2003 8:57:57 PM
- Oâ€™Neill was fired?? - Lindy - 5/30/2003 2:45:24 AM
- re: 'Mr. Oâ€™Neill, who was fired last December, refused to comment.' - alcaray - 5/29/2003 9:01:43 PM
  - re: re: 'Mr. Oâ€™Neill, who was fired last December, refused to comment.' - Mark Eby - 5/30/2003 4:02:11 AM
  - Wealth Redistribution - Tom Brosz - 5/29/2003 11:58:56 PM
    - That social security is owned by the Democrats is one of those really big lies. - alcaray - 5/30/2003 4:06:09 PM
      - re: social security is owned by the Democrats - Tom Brosz - 5/30/2003 4:58:16 PM
        
        Well, "The more precise way to put it is" exactly the way I did "put" it - alcaray - 5/30/2003 6:55:53 PM
    - re: Wealth Redistribution - Mark Eby - 5/30/2003 4:11:27 AM
      - Eat the rich - Tom Brosz - 5/30/2003 5:58:12 AM
        
        re: Eat the rich - Mark Eby - 5/31/2003 5:41:51 PM
        
        P.S. - Tom Brosz - 5/31/2003 6:18:21 PM
        
        re: P.S. - Mark Eby - 5/31/2003 9:24:09 PM
        
        re: P.S. - Tom Brosz - 5/31/2003 10:28:35 PM
        
        re: P.S. - Mark Eby - 6/1/2003 5:37:36 AM
        
        A few more comments - Tom Brosz - 6/1/2003 6:36:06 AM
        
        You're Ignoring History & Current Articles Tom - Mark Eby - 6/1/2003 5:05:42 PM
        
        Boy, I really got sucked in there, didn't I? - Tom Brosz - 6/1/2003 7:41:12 PM
        
        Come On Tom, Your Smart Enough To Avoid The Simplistic Thinking - Mark Eby - 6/1/2003 10:04:23 PM
        
        Your Smart Enough To Avoid The Simplistic Thinking - Tom Brosz - 6/1/2003 11:14:32 PM
        
        Fair Enough - Mark Eby - 6/1/2003 11:24:00 PM
        
        re: Fair Enough - Tom Brosz - 6/2/2003 4:23:08 AM
        
        re: Eat the rich - Tom Brosz - 5/31/2003 6:15:54 PM
        
        Kind Of My Point Tom - Mark Eby - 5/31/2003 6:52:15 PM
    - Them Old Buggers Costing Us a Fortune? - Lindy - 5/30/2003 3:01:19 AM
      - re: Them Old Buggers Costing Us a Fortune? - Tom Brosz - 5/30/2003 5:29:32 AM
        
        I was there too - Mary Anne - 5/30/2003 8:30:06 AM
        
        re: I was there too - Tom Brosz - 5/30/2003 4:50:43 PM
        
        Let's Apply Means Testing To Both Ends Of The Spectrum - Mark Eby - 5/31/2003 6:34:31 PM
        
        Not the same thing - Tom Brosz - 5/31/2003 6:46:39 PM
        
        re: Not the same thing - Mark Eby - 6/1/2003 6:34:17 AM
        
        re: Not the same thing - Tom Brosz - 6/1/2003 7:09:41 AM
        
        re: re: Not the same thing - Mark Eby - 6/1/2003 4:27:12 PM
    - re: Wealth Redistribution - Mary Anne - 5/30/2003 12:11:41 AM
      - re: Wealth Redistribution - Tom Brosz - 5/30/2003 12:31:52 AM
  - hmmm - Raoul - 5/29/2003 9:39:03 PM

The Official Beginning of Retrogression - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/2/2003 4:21:48 AM

IMO, where Bush and Rumsfeld ARE screwing up. - Tom Brosz - 6/1/2003 10:53:05 PM
- re: IMO, where Bush and Rumsfeld ARE screwing up. - D. Spires - 6/1/2003 11:40:26 PM
  - re: IMO - Tom Brosz - 6/2/2003 3:03:54 AM
    - re: re: IMO - Davin L. - 6/2/2003 3:35:06 AM
      - My mistake. - Tom Brosz - 6/2/2003 4:04:22 AM
        
        re: My mistake. - Davin L. - 6/2/2003 4:15:23 AM

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