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Princess Mathilde and the Rights of the Child. - Raoul - 5/9/2002 11:15:51 AM
- Rights of the Child. - Tom Brosz - 5/9/2002 3:53:45 PM
- Worthy goals to achieve no doubt - Matt Burley - 5/9/2002 3:38:47 PM
  - Re: Worthy goals to achieve no doubt - Raoul Lannoy - 5/10/2002 7:37:10 PM
    - punishment inflicted to minor children, - FrankC - 5/10/2002 11:01:27 AM
      - Re: punishment inflicted to minor children, - Raoul - 5/10/2002 7:07:36 PM
        
        I wish her luck - FrankC - 5/10/2002 8:50:48 AM

Massacre - p - 5/9/2002 7:39:42 PM
- Who trained the FARC? Castro. FARC is a tiny group that even when allowed to run for office - ebnelson - 5/9/2002 1:43:33 PM
- Some people never learn. - Bowser - 5/9/2002 10:08:10 AM
  - Not a Janet Reno fan, eh? (n/t) (n/t) - p - 5/9/2002 10:09:27 AM
    - Nope!! But better than Ashcroft. - Bowser - 5/9/2002 10:30:53 AM
      - Bowser, your sanctimonious ignorance is so entertaining. - ebnelson - 5/9/2002 1:44:52 PM
      - Ashcroft - Tom Brosz - 5/9/2002 11:06:22 AM
        
        You think I make this up? - Bowser - 5/9/2002 11:27:21 AM
        
        You sort of give yourself as away as a dimohack in this post, Dog boy. Ñ (n/t) - ebnelson - 5/9/2002 1:46:05 PM
        
        Re: In other words . . . - D. Spires - 5/9/2002 12:34:07 PM
      - Re: Nope!! But better than Ashcroft. - p - 5/9/2002 10:47:41 AM
        
        Not true. - Bowser - 5/9/2002 10:57:25 AM
        
        Yes, what you say is not true. - ebnelson - 5/9/2002 2:31:23 PM
        
        Re: If it's being crammed down my godless throat . . . - D. Spires - 5/9/2002 12:31:18 PM
        
        I'd like to see your proof - Larry J - 5/9/2002 12:22:36 PM
        
        He may have a hard time finding proof - FrankC - 5/9/2002 2:21:18 PM
        
        Proof - Tom Brosz - 5/9/2002 12:27:15 PM
        
        Not so fast, there, Kimosabe. - Bowser - 5/9/2002 1:27:42 PM
        
        Exactly what I said. - Tom Brosz - 5/9/2002 3:21:22 PM
        
        Exactly what I said. - Bowser - 5/9/2002 5:23:51 PM
        
        Re: Exactly what I said. - Tom Brosz - 5/10/2002 7:31:17 PM
        
        You tried, and failed this before. Have at it. - ebnelson - 5/9/2002 2:32:39 PM
        
        It's really quite simple - Larry J - 5/9/2002 2:07:06 PM
        
        Exactly what I said. - Bowser - 5/9/2002 5:25:24 PM
        
        Imagine this scenario - Larry J - 5/10/2002 1:20:05 PM
        
        Re: Much ado about nothing, Larry . . . - D. Spires - 5/10/2002 11:19:07 AM
        
        Now, Dan. - Bowser - 5/10/2002 12:36:24 PM
        
        Winner take all - Tom Brosz - 5/10/2002 3:57:43 PM
        
        Re: Now, Bowser . . . - D. Spires - 5/10/2002 2:29:45 PM
- It's front-page news at Washington Post, and MSNBC. - alcaray - 5/9/2002 9:01:21 AM
  - Re: It's front-page news at Washington Post, and MSNBC. - p - 5/9/2002 10:17:34 AM
    - I did miss your point, sorry. - alcaray - 5/9/2002 10:35:08 AM
      - Alcaray makes a good point - Tom Brosz - 5/9/2002 11:11:21 AM
      - Re: I did miss your point, sorry. - p - 5/9/2002 10:48:30 AM

A long-winded reply to Bowser's post on borders - Tom Brosz - 5/9/2002 12:24:24 PM
- 1967 - E.P.Grondine - 5/10/2002 2:58:43 PM
  - True... - Tom Brosz - 5/10/2002 4:47:33 PM
    - Actually - E.P. Grondine - 5/10/2002 9:00:32 AM
  - Israel fought a pre-emptive war in 1967. - ebnelson - 5/10/2002 3:37:18 PM
    - Re: Israel fought a pre-emptive war in 1967. - Bowser - 5/10/2002 3:58:48 PM
      - None of the countries in the region are capable of sustaining long term ops. - ebnelson - 5/10/2002 4:06:59 PM
        
        Ed, you're starting early. - Bowser - 5/10/2002 4:57:12 PM
        
        The casualties they inflicted are well documented. - ebnelson - 5/10/2002 5:19:20 PM
    - 1973 - E.P. Grondine - 5/10/2002 9:53:38 AM
      - Thanks! Very informative - Tom Brosz - 5/10/2002 4:01:04 PM
- Re: Roots . . . - D. Spires - 5/10/2002 11:55:43 AM
- Good points - Matt Burley - 5/9/2002 2:36:14 PM
- Israel will have trouble taking it both ways. - ebnelson - 5/9/2002 1:49:56 PM
- Very creative. - Bowser - 5/9/2002 1:33:58 PM
  - Re: We did build villages in Japan -- and they are still there, 'occupied' by Americans, today . . . (n/t) (n/t) - D. Spires - 5/10/2002 11:53:09 AM
  - Thanks! - Tom Brosz - 5/9/2002 3:18:28 PM
    - Ask the Japanese about the Kuril Islands - Larry J - 5/10/2002 1:29:16 PM
    - Back to the border. - Bowser - 5/9/2002 5:43:44 PM
      - Are you just making this up as you go along? - Tom Brosz - 5/10/2002 7:27:39 PM
        
        What? - Bowser - 5/10/2002 4:06:55 PM
        
        Re: Than - Tom Brosz - 5/10/2002 5:10:14 PM
        
        Meant to type subject: "That's what." (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 5/10/2002 5:11:00 PM
        
        The current conflict is because the Cease Fires of 1967 and 1973 did not restore the borders. (n/t) - ebnelson - 5/10/2002 4:08:18 PM
      - Bowser, while we agree on the basic justice of the Pal cause - ebnelson - 5/10/2002 2:15:47 PM
      - Ridiculous - FrankC - 5/10/2002 11:25:02 AM

Shamnesty International? - p - 5/10/2002 5:58:31 PM

Duhalde Makes Last-Ditch Play in Argentina . . . - D. Spires - 5/10/2002 2:58:13 PM

ACTIVISTS DELAY PULLOUT - FrankC - 5/10/2002 12:11:50 PM

Israeli tanks roll toward Gaza - FrankC - 5/9/2002 6:12:07 PM
- Ironically, Israel could do Arafat a big favor by stomping Hamas - Matt Burley - 5/9/2002 7:50:02 PM
  - You don't sound to confident that the Palestinians can create a thriving tourist economy in their new homeland - Scott - 5/9/2002 8:27:09 AM
    - Oh yeah, I'm planning my next vacation at one of Gaza’s beautiful beachfront resorts, just minutes from fine dining, shopping and endless entertainment! n/t (n/t) - Matt Burley - 5/9/2002 10:36:50 AM
      - Got the dates? I'll tell 'em your coming. n/t (n/t) - Bowser - 5/9/2002 10:51:35 AM
- Its time to create a Palestinian State - Scott - 5/9/2002 7:03:12 PM
  - Re: Its time to create a Palestinian State - McFly - 5/9/2002 7:23:50 PM

LePen was right...the EU is evil... - SDAI-Tech1 - 5/7/2002 12:23:34 PM
- A second Battle of Tours is needed. - Lee - 5/9/2002 7:41:28 PM
  - And after that, how about a replay of the Spanish Inquisition? - Mary Anne - 5/9/2002 1:20:38 PM
    - So you think the Battle of Tours was a bad thing? - Lee - 5/9/2002 6:36:35 PM
      - No, I think your attitude toward non-Europeans is a bad thing. - Mary Anne - 5/9/2002 2:19:00 PM
      - Some would say riding the world of Polio was a bad thing - Scott - 5/9/2002 8:40:44 AM
        
        Polio is still here. - Mary Anne - 5/9/2002 2:31:41 PM
    - Oh, yeah??!! - Bowser - 5/9/2002 4:35:54 PM
      - Awww.... - Mary Anne - 5/9/2002 2:40:04 PM

Rumsfeld's Crusade Against Pork - p - 5/8/2002 3:26:16 PM
- So is aritillary dead? - alcaray - 5/9/2002 6:38:37 PM
  - Re: So is aritillary dead? - Scott - 5/9/2002 7:07:37 PM
- Another perspective - p - 5/9/2002 1:14:42 PM
  - Canary in the coal mine - Tom Brosz - 5/9/2002 3:48:08 PM

Can the US learn from Sharon? - Bowser - 5/8/2002 4:36:13 PM
- Re: Can the US learn from Sharon? - Tom Brosz - 5/8/2002 5:53:13 PM
  - Sharon, bombers, armies, and legality. - Bowser - 5/9/2002 4:25:07 PM
    - Castro - Tom Brosz - 5/9/2002 5:42:39 PM
    - Still waiting for link to original border agreement - Tom Brosz - 5/9/2002 5:40:10 PM
      - Look at the map. - Bowser - 5/9/2002 6:04:48 PM
      - HEY! OVER HERE. This be the place. Getcher maps, red hot maps - - - - Bowser - 5/9/2002 12:00:37 PM
        
        You want maps? I got maps. - Tom Brosz - 5/9/2002 12:28:37 PM
      - This map. The link. It be here. - Bowser - 5/9/2002 11:05:17 AM

Israeli looters indicted - Tom Brosz - 5/8/2002 9:14:16 AM
- Following Baruch Goldstein's murdurous rampage in 1994 - Matt Burley - 5/8/2002 3:17:46 PM
  - They have an army. - Bowser - 5/8/2002 4:10:56 PM
- Wow! - Bowser - 5/8/2002 12:28:25 PM
  - Re: Yeah, I think that about covers it . . . - D. Spires - 5/8/2002 1:45:33 PM
    - Detailed list. - Bowser - 5/8/2002 2:43:39 PM
      - Re: Detailed list. - D. Spires - 5/9/2002 3:09:32 PM
- Re: How can this be . . . ?! - D. Spires - 5/8/2002 9:28:45 AM
  - Re: How can this be . . . ?! - Tom Brosz - 5/8/2002 9:38:31 AM

Something new for those bugs-in-the-teeth motorcycle types - SM - 5/9/2002 2:40:18 PM

Missed this one! - Bowser - 5/8/2002 5:06:11 PM
- P.S. - Tom Brosz - 5/8/2002 5:28:28 PM
- Re: Missed what? - Tom Brosz - 5/8/2002 5:27:03 PM
  - Re: Missed what? - Scott - 5/8/2002 7:05:02 PM
  - Re: Missed what? - Bowser - 5/8/2002 10:49:42 AM
    - Good Pot and Bad Acid... - Scott - 5/8/2002 10:56:31 AM
      - Grateful Dead - Bowser - 5/8/2002 11:55:47 AM
        
        Re: Grateful Dead - Scott - 5/9/2002 2:38:25 PM

Troops Find al-Qaida Caves, Weapons. . . - D. Spires - 5/9/2002 9:08:42 AM
- U.K. Troops Find al-Qaeda Arsenal . . . - D. Spires - 5/9/2002 10:00:32 AM

Al Qaeda 'Behind Ambon and Other Conflicts' . . . - D. Spires - 5/9/2002 9:50:17 AM

Reports of Reprisals in Afghanistan . . . - D. Spires - 5/9/2002 9:34:20 AM

Pakistan Hunts 'Suspicious Foreigners' . . . - D. Spires - 5/9/2002 8:58:10 AM

Myanmar: Military Putting Future in Suu Kyi's Hands . . . ? - D. Spires - 5/9/2002 8:23:56 AM

Easy way to eliminate OPEC influence - p - 5/8/2002 5:24:44 PM
- Re: Diesel Hybrid - SM - 5/8/2002 7:54:00 PM
  - New life for an old idea. - RobVG - 5/8/2002 9:07:24 AM
    - link - RobVG - 5/8/2002 9:10:23 AM
  - Re: Diesel Hybrid - Tom Brosz - 5/8/2002 8:01:26 AM
    - Re: Diesel Hybrid - SM - 5/8/2002 8:53:56 AM
      - Re: Diesel Hybrid - Tom Brosz - 5/8/2002 9:18:03 AM
        
        Hybrid strategies - Larry J - 5/8/2002 10:02:53 AM
- We get out diesel from OPEC, too. n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 5/8/2002 6:47:08 PM
  - That's not the point - p - 5/8/2002 6:52:06 PM
    - I love when people give themselves awards. - alcaray - 5/8/2002 7:07:19 PM
      - Re: I love when people give themselves awards. - p - 5/8/2002 7:31:29 PM
        
        We are probably on the same side of this issue - alcaray - 5/8/2002 8:14:59 AM
        
        Even Greenpeace is on board the bio-deisel bandwagon now. - Scott - 5/8/2002 8:19:30 AM
        
        We are heavily involved with biodiesel technology. - ebnelson - 5/8/2002 8:43:58 AM
        
        Attention all owners of a conservative sense of humor: - alcaray - 5/8/2002 8:27:33 AM
        
        Re: Attention all owners of a conservative sense of humor: - p - 5/8/2002 10:00:35 AM
        
        Re: Facetious . . . - D. Spires - 5/8/2002 10:20:57 AM
        
        Absolutely, 100% on target, Dan. :) - alcaray - 5/8/2002 10:31:01 AM
        
        Re: Conservative sense of humor - Tom Brosz - 5/8/2002 8:54:28 AM
        
        Wasn't the use of Diesels in Cars effectively stopped by the government? - Scott - 5/8/2002 8:00:40 AM
      - Ignore infrastructure at your peril - Larry J - 5/8/2002 8:11:42 AM
- Diesels - Tom Brosz - 5/8/2002 5:38:20 PM
  - Diesels have changed since then - Larry J - 5/8/2002 5:53:58 PM

Indian Maoists Blow Up Railway Tracks, Torch Train . . . - D. Spires - 5/7/2002 11:33:56 AM
- Nine Killed in Continuing Ahmadabad Riots . . . - D. Spires - 5/7/2002 11:47:01 AM
  - Re: Nine Killed in Continuing Ahmadabad Riots . . . - SM - 5/8/2002 6:40:42 PM

ENRON Drove Up Ca. Power Prices Intentionally - Cato - 5/7/2002 4:28:55 PM
- Another of my objectionable summaries - alcaray - 5/8/2002 6:28:01 PM
  - Now pay attention... - Tom Brosz - 5/8/2002 8:09:19 AM
    - Now be at ease... - alcaray - 5/8/2002 8:23:13 AM
      - Good point. - Tom Brosz - 5/8/2002 8:43:53 AM
        
        I tend to think - alcaray - 5/8/2002 10:28:02 AM
- Yes. and Charmin has been doing the same to the Toilet Paper Market for years. N/T (n/t) - Scott - 5/8/2002 2:49:11 PM
- It is wrong, but is it a crime? - ebnelson - 5/8/2002 2:30:05 PM
- Everyone knew that. - Bowser - 5/7/2002 5:11:34 PM
  - And Enron obviously made a killing. They are flush with money from this obvious scam. N/T (n/t) - Scott - 5/8/2002 2:51:27 PM
  - It may be something. It sure as hell ain't free enterprise. - Tom Brosz - 5/7/2002 5:57:30 PM
    - Well, there you have it. - Bowser - 5/7/2002 6:30:15 PM
      - Pretty much. - Tom Brosz - 5/8/2002 4:18:21 PM

Just In: 15 Dead in Suicide Bombing in Israel. Ñ (n/t) - ebnelson - 5/7/2002 9:08:24 AM
- Gee, that's funny. I don't hear the UN rushing in a commission to investigate this act of Palestinian terrorism n/t (n/t) - Matt Burley - 5/7/2002 1:56:51 PM
  - The UN response: - Tom Brosz - 5/8/2002 4:44:17 PM
- Oh, s--t!! - Bowser - 5/7/2002 12:52:45 PM
  - Re: Oh, s--t!! - Tom Brosz - 5/7/2002 2:23:52 PM
    - Let me see if I understand. - Bowser - 5/7/2002 2:56:51 PM
      - Re: Let me see if I understand. - Tom Brosz - 5/7/2002 4:17:42 PM
        
        Back to the issue, if you can. - Bowser - 5/7/2002 5:37:19 PM
        
        where is it wrong? - FrankC - 5/8/2002 3:01:12 PM
        
        The issue. - Tom Brosz - 5/7/2002 6:19:52 PM
        
        The point is that UN Resolution 242 does NOT require unilateral Israeli withdrawal - Matt Burley - 5/8/2002 5:24:37 PM
        
        Chasing my tail. - Bowser - 5/7/2002 6:33:28 PM
        
        Re: Chasing my tail. - Tom Brosz - 5/8/2002 4:22:53 PM
  - Re: Can't stand the heat? Get out of the Middle East. Now. - D. Spires - 5/7/2002 1:20:41 PM
- Suicide Bombing? - Tom Brosz - 5/7/2002 9:18:52 AM
  - Never mind. AP calling it that now. - Tom Brosz - 5/7/2002 9:22:42 AM

Leftist animal rights wacko & enviro radical arrested for Pim shooting - p - 5/8/2002 1:10:29 PM
- What if a "right wing" group had offed a leftist leader? - ebnelson - 5/8/2002 3:39:20 PM

Foreign Affairs rag...er, mag - McFly - 5/8/2002 2:07:26 PM
- Fascinating history and analysis. - Bowser - 5/8/2002 12:29:46 PM

Waiting (n/t) - E.P. - 5/8/2002 10:24:03 AM
- For what? Godot? (n/t) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 5/8/2002 12:39:27 PM
  - IOUNF I imagine (nt) (n/t) - FrankC - 5/8/2002 1:04:36 PM

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