Like using a little bit of napalm. Either it's yes, or it's no.
First: I object, I object, I object! to the "so what" response here to the news that Americans once again think we can pick whichever rules we deign to acknowledge today. Membership in a community doesn't countenance this chameleonlike behavior. The do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do crap is lousy leadership, and when it involves maiming other people, even the enemy, sometimes to the point of death, it is morally repugnant. To shrug it off corrupts our moral and cultural values.
Now, we can be morally repugnant if we choose. But we can't disguise it behind the cloak of respectability -- "they weren't people, they were military deployments" -- and expect citizens of other nations to be too stupid to understand.
Second: The B-52 carpet bombing technique would have lost us even the opportunity to attempt to build a democratic regime in Iraq, because what people were left would have pelted any American they could find with rocks unto the third generation. We would also have been feared and reviled throughout the world. Minimizing casualties was not only the right thing to do, as we have that capability, but also the politically astute thing to do.
It's very sad that Americans chose to ignore international agreements in three cases, even if they were military installations, rather than deciding to do something else. It suggests that -- no, it proves that we have no compunction about using the stuff if we can find a plausible excuse. There are always survivors, and where there are survivors, there are martyrs. O joy O rapture.
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- Immoral
- re: The immorality of napalm usage depends upon what you would consider a moral war . . .
- Nope. You just find excuses
- This thread is certainly easier to follow in 1024 x 768 display mode (n/t)
- The epitome of flame wars! Robert please add this to the hall o' flame!(nt) (n/t)
- You've only scratched the surface, bud
- fwiw, welcome Zhavric...and to Raoul...
- re: You've only scratched the surface, bud
- Actually...
- re: Actually...
- Since its flame, and you are acting
- Wow...
- re: Wow...
- Listen
- Dear Stupid
- re: What . . . ?
- Abandon all integrity oh ye who enter the hollow passage of the Right Wing Mind
- Let me clear it up for you...
- re: Listen
- Listen
- Chamberlain and Hitler were also chummy...
- re: Wow...
- re: Actually...
- Actually...
- My two cents worth on this
- re: Stupid
- re: Immoral
- Immoral
- Napalm is nasty stuff..
- As long as hairs are being split
- Splitting hairs way too finely
- OK, name a great way to die, and one that doesn't take up medical resources (n/t)
- Surely you jest
- yeagh, napalm is bad, but wait till you see what a chemical weapon can do!!
- re: the Burn Unit
- Ok then, name an explosive that won't burn anyone (n/t)
- re: No. YOU tell me what justifies the use of a weapon whose specific intent is to burn people.
- re: the Burn Unit
- Ok then, name an explosive that won't burn anyone (n/t)
- Let's review the situation
- re: the Burn Unit
- re: Surely you jest
- Phycological effects
- yeagh, napalm is bad, but wait till you see what a chemical weapon can do!!
- Well...
- Surely you jest
- Oh come on Robert
- "terror is as terror does"
- Shotguns were widely used by American troops in Vietnam...
- By your definition, we should get rid of everything but pea shooters.
- Shoehorned??
- re: "terror is as terror does"
- "terror is as terror does"
- OK, name a great way to die, and one that doesn't take up medical resources (n/t)
- I love the smell of napalm in the morning.
- re: Remember?
- It smells like children on fire.
- re: Funny girl . . .
- The same could be said about any weapon.
- Lee proves himself to be a P.O.S. yet again
- Oh man!
- I had a uncle killed in Vietnam by a 10 year old.
- re: I had a uncle killed in Vietnam by a 10 year old.
- The only good gook is a dead gook?
- re: The only good gook is a dead gook?
- re: The only good gook is a dead gook?
- re: The only good gook is a dead gook?
- an odd question, given the person.
- I'm sure the children of Hamburg and Berlin had the same look on their faces too.
- I had a uncle killed in Vietnam by a 10 year old.
