a point that seems lost on you and Raoul.
Frank mentioned shotguns being illegal for military use. I showed that they were widely used in the Vietnam war and may well still be in our inventory.
Raoul and others called napalm a WMD. That simply is false according to the definition of WMD that is accepted in the international community. If the truth means anything, then striving for accuracy is important. If the truth wasn't important to me, I'd be a Democrat.
As for how we kill people in wartime, the military objective is to kill the enemy as effectively and efficiently as possible while reducing the number of non-combatant deaths to the lowest possible level. That means we do things like drop laser-guided concrete bombs in urban areas to take out targets like tanks with minimal risk to innocent bystanders. Think about that for a moment - we're putting a laser guidance unit on a streamlined piece of concrete at a cost of thousands of dollars each in order to reduce civilian casualties. Dropping a dumb bomb is much cheaper (a few hundred dollars each). This illustrates another point - we're willing to trade treasure to protect our own military personnel's lives. We use very expensive weapons to take out the enemy as fast as possible with minimal losses of our own.
Ending a war quickly is an effective tactic for reducing the inevitable suffering all wars cause. At the same time, there are things we simply won't do. We could've taken out every Iraqi population center and military objective in less than an hour had we been willing to use maximum (nuclear) force. Such drastic measures were never considered. Back in WWII, both sides targeted civilian population centers because they didn't have the accuracy to hit small targets. Millions of civilians were killed. This happened in Vietnam, too. No more.
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The point is historical and military accuracy...
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- Immoral
- re: The immorality of napalm usage depends upon what you would consider a moral war . . .
- Nope. You just find excuses
- This thread is certainly easier to follow in 1024 x 768 display mode (n/t)
- The epitome of flame wars! Robert please add this to the hall o' flame!(nt) (n/t)
- You've only scratched the surface, bud
- fwiw, welcome Zhavric...and to Raoul...
- re: You've only scratched the surface, bud
- Actually...
- re: Actually...
- Since its flame, and you are acting
- Wow...
- re: Wow...
- Listen
- Dear Stupid
- re: What . . . ?
- Abandon all integrity oh ye who enter the hollow passage of the Right Wing Mind
- Let me clear it up for you...
- re: Listen
- Listen
- Chamberlain and Hitler were also chummy...
- re: Wow...
- re: Actually...
- Actually...
- My two cents worth on this
- re: Stupid
- re: Immoral
- Immoral
- Napalm is nasty stuff..
- As long as hairs are being split
- Splitting hairs way too finely
- OK, name a great way to die, and one that doesn't take up medical resources (n/t)
- Surely you jest
- yeagh, napalm is bad, but wait till you see what a chemical weapon can do!!
- re: the Burn Unit
- Ok then, name an explosive that won't burn anyone (n/t)
- re: No. YOU tell me what justifies the use of a weapon whose specific intent is to burn people.
- re: the Burn Unit
- Ok then, name an explosive that won't burn anyone (n/t)
- Let's review the situation
- re: the Burn Unit
- re: Surely you jest
- Phycological effects
- yeagh, napalm is bad, but wait till you see what a chemical weapon can do!!
- Well...
- Surely you jest
- Oh come on Robert
- "terror is as terror does"
- Shotguns were widely used by American troops in Vietnam...
- By your definition, we should get rid of everything but pea shooters.
- Shoehorned??
- re: "terror is as terror does"
- "terror is as terror does"
- OK, name a great way to die, and one that doesn't take up medical resources (n/t)
- I love the smell of napalm in the morning.
- re: Remember?
- It smells like children on fire.
- re: Funny girl . . .
- The same could be said about any weapon.
- Lee proves himself to be a P.O.S. yet again
- Oh man!
- I had a uncle killed in Vietnam by a 10 year old.
- re: I had a uncle killed in Vietnam by a 10 year old.
- The only good gook is a dead gook?
- re: The only good gook is a dead gook?
- re: The only good gook is a dead gook?
- re: The only good gook is a dead gook?
- an odd question, given the person.
- I'm sure the children of Hamburg and Berlin had the same look on their faces too.
- I had a uncle killed in Vietnam by a 10 year old.
