Wars take place in a larger political context, and to focus on military tactics is to lose sight of the forest for the trees.
The reasons given for invading Iraq shifted daily; while the WMD and Al Qaeda connection dodges have pretty much evaporated, what's left are the intention to liberate Iraq from Saddam Hussein, and the pledge to establish a model democracy in the Middle East.
Military tactics have to support the political agenda, and I just don't see how use of a terror weapon against Iraqis will in any way further the effort to pacify and civilize Iraq. The use of a weapon that amounts to torture of those it doesn't kill instantly can't help but draw unwelcome comparisons with the torture and maiming committed by Saddam Hussein. It calls into question our claims of moral superiority. If we lose the moral high ground we don't have a prayer of ever bringing peace and freedom to Iraq. Only fear and intimidation, and those don't last in the long run.
History's pretty much forgiven us for the expediencies of Dresden, Nagasaki and Hiroshima, the use of napalm in Vietnam...but we're never going to be praised for those things. Will we ever learn from our past mistakes?
Our only hope of doing better next time is to critique what we've done this time. We failed to live up to our own standards...again. I cannot keep quiet about that.
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- Immoral
- re: The immorality of napalm usage depends upon what you would consider a moral war . . .
- Nope. You just find excuses
- This thread is certainly easier to follow in 1024 x 768 display mode (n/t)
- The epitome of flame wars! Robert please add this to the hall o' flame!(nt) (n/t)
- You've only scratched the surface, bud
- fwiw, welcome Zhavric...and to Raoul...
- re: You've only scratched the surface, bud
- Actually...
- re: Actually...
- Since its flame, and you are acting
- Wow...
- re: Wow...
- Listen
- Dear Stupid
- re: What . . . ?
- Abandon all integrity oh ye who enter the hollow passage of the Right Wing Mind
- Let me clear it up for you...
- re: Listen
- Listen
- Chamberlain and Hitler were also chummy...
- re: Wow...
- re: Actually...
- Actually...
- My two cents worth on this
- re: Stupid
- re: Immoral
- Immoral
- Napalm is nasty stuff..
- As long as hairs are being split
- Splitting hairs way too finely
- OK, name a great way to die, and one that doesn't take up medical resources (n/t)
- Surely you jest
- yeagh, napalm is bad, but wait till you see what a chemical weapon can do!!
- re: the Burn Unit
- Ok then, name an explosive that won't burn anyone (n/t)
- re: No. YOU tell me what justifies the use of a weapon whose specific intent is to burn people.
- re: the Burn Unit
- Ok then, name an explosive that won't burn anyone (n/t)
- Let's review the situation
- re: the Burn Unit
- re: Surely you jest
- Phycological effects
- yeagh, napalm is bad, but wait till you see what a chemical weapon can do!!
- Well...
- Surely you jest
- Oh come on Robert
- "terror is as terror does"
- Shotguns were widely used by American troops in Vietnam...
- By your definition, we should get rid of everything but pea shooters.
- Shoehorned??
- re: "terror is as terror does"
- "terror is as terror does"
- OK, name a great way to die, and one that doesn't take up medical resources (n/t)
- I love the smell of napalm in the morning.
- re: Remember?
- It smells like children on fire.
- re: Funny girl . . .
- The same could be said about any weapon.
- Lee proves himself to be a P.O.S. yet again
- Oh man!
- I had a uncle killed in Vietnam by a 10 year old.
- re: I had a uncle killed in Vietnam by a 10 year old.
- The only good gook is a dead gook?
- re: The only good gook is a dead gook?
- re: The only good gook is a dead gook?
- re: The only good gook is a dead gook?
- an odd question, given the person.
- I'm sure the children of Hamburg and Berlin had the same look on their faces too.
- I had a uncle killed in Vietnam by a 10 year old.
