Western Europe had lots of good intentions towards the lands they colonized.
But the locals saw a very different matter:
Humiliation, money not for them, left out....
Then we left the newly independant countries...Unfortunately, they most of the time chose pre-war Italian-like dictatorships rather than democracies...
I remember seeing Zaire citizens saying over and over again they would rather be 10 times poorer than be colonized.
Dignity, autonomy are much stronger than democracy and freedom.
Besides, when a country imposes any kind of society on another, even if it's based on what we call "freedom", it certainly not is the case in their eyes, because it precisely is imposed.
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re: That is exactly what colonial countries said
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- I have become convinced that Bowser doesn't read posts here
- Oh, for God's Sake!!!
- not hoped..
- re:Sorry, but....
- re: re:Sorry, but....
- I've said it before...
- "He hates anything that America does.........."
- Has he anything good to say about America?
- re: Where exactly do you imagine this is happening? (n/t)
- Yes.
- Gawd, are you brainwashed or what??
- Has he anything good to say about America?
- Forgive them, Raoul, they know not what they do.
- The Germans were not chased out of Belgium by diplomacy. (n/t)
- re: The Germans had been the invaders (n/t)
- I believe Raoul's point is that the Germans were no more invited into Belgium than we were invited into Iraq.
- Okay, if we're going in that direction...
- The USSR had already entered Germany from the other direction.
- That doesn't change the issue at all.
- If you wish to fight on the battlefield of history, you must deal with the facts as they are.
- Playing (only slight) DA
- Hitler was...
- re: Playing (only slight) DA
- "Are you sure Hitler was a threat to the rest of the world."(?)
- re: Rockets
- re: Rockets
- Nuking the US - absurd
- 09-10-01, Terrorist bringing down the WTC buildings. Absurd! (n/t)
- re: But Saddam was not left alone after 1991! (n/t)
- Nuking the US - absurd
- Sure by 1951...maybe.
- re: Rockets
- Good to see you Mary Anne
- re: The USSR had already entered Germany from the other direction.
- re: re:Because the UN is about international law and respect of sovereignty of states (n/t)
- Maybe sovereignty should belong to the people, not any murderous dictator who seizes power? (n/t)
- And about funneling money to Saddam for "Oil for Food". LOL! (n/t)
- I still do not see the difference between what Hitler did to France and what Saddam did to Kuwait
- re: re:Because the UN is about international law and respect of sovereignty of states (n/t)
- That doesn't change the issue at all.
- The USSR had already entered Germany from the other direction.
- Moral equivalence is wonderful isn't it?
- Okay, if we're going in that direction...
- We asked VERY nicely... (n/t)
- Black and White
- Both - And v. Black and White, Either - Or", and "but".
- re: Black and White
- A partial answer to CE
- War gave you your freedom
- Courage gave us freedom.
- Not bad
- Well said, sir. (n/t)
- Excellent answer
- This deserves to be read again.
- Thank you Bowser...........clap, clap, clap
- War gave you your freedom
- What a load of crap...
- Thanks Raoul for sharing that story
- re: re:Sorry, but....
