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Bakken oil field update - TB - 4/10/2008 9:11:55 PM
- "Hard Numbers" ? It's only an assesment. - podrock - 4/11/2008 12:02:32 AM
  - Okay, "harder" numbers. - TB - 4/11/2008 1:10:29 AM
    - Um, Yeah. So Podrock is a geologist... - Yeti - 4/11/2008 2:35:54 AM
      - re: Um, Yeah. So Podrock is a geologist... - gbaikie - 4/11/2008 7:59:38 PM
    - That's because... - podrock - 4/11/2008 2:06:09 AM
      - The drops do indeed add up. - TB - 4/11/2008 4:04:49 AM
        
        Whatever happened to solar thermal energy? - RobVG - 4/12/2008 5:21:51 PM
        
        Quite a bit, actually. - TB - 4/12/2008 8:41:57 PM

Life imitating art? Some nuclear plant workers in Florida sleeping on the job? DO'H!!! - Jacob - 4/11/2008 6:49:57 PM
- Mr Burns, fire the IMBICILE!!!!! - carl - 4/12/2008 2:55:08 PM

5 years after start of war new embassy in Baghdad is almost ready. - Bowser - 4/12/2008 6:16:17 AM

"Wall Street tumbles after GEâ€™s outlook" - a story. - Bowser - 4/12/2008 1:55:53 AM
- More details on GE - TB - 4/12/2008 5:07:04 AM

Food and fuel, debt and deficits. - Bowser - 4/11/2008 8:04:51 PM
- re: Food and fuel, debt and deficits. - TB - 4/11/2008 9:32:40 PM
  - That's easy. For starters. - Bowser - 4/12/2008 1:15:05 AM

Poll on nationalized health care - TB - 4/10/2008 9:30:37 PM
- How well is the private sector doing supplying health care to the uninsured? - Bowser - 4/11/2008 6:41:07 PM
  - re: How well is the private sector doing supplying cars to people who don't drive? - TB - 4/11/2008 6:59:48 PM
    - What a comparison. (n/t) - Bowser - 4/11/2008 8:42:20 PM
      - You've been missing the entire point. - TB - 4/11/2008 9:33:45 PM
- re:... - alcaray - 4/11/2008 4:16:37 AM
  - re: re:... - TB - 4/11/2008 4:46:35 AM
    - re: "The delusion is that EVERYBODY'S doing worse." - alcaray - 4/11/2008 7:00:58 AM
      - Look... - TB - 4/11/2008 5:07:05 PM
        
        Yes I see the disconnect. (n/t) - alcaray - 4/11/2008 6:32:05 PM
- The "Perception Gap" - The Silent Majority - 4/11/2008 2:14:10 AM
  - Sounds like he nailed it pretty good - TB - 4/11/2008 3:45:14 AM
  - Documentary on the American Healthcare System - Eric - 4/11/2008 2:51:51 AM

Michael Yon editorial on the surge - TB - 4/11/2008 7:04:33 PM

Chaos on Wall Steet - Arch Stanton - 4/11/2008 5:57:50 PM

Pakistan to take enlightened route with Taliban - TB - 4/11/2008 5:19:47 AM
- "If that strategy were going to work it would have done so in four years." - Bowser - 4/11/2008 6:18:46 AM
  - re: strategy - TB - 4/11/2008 4:58:03 PM

hurricanes 2008 - JEKing - 4/11/2008 3:24:53 AM
- I don't want to do another Rita. - REB - 4/11/2008 3:32:20 PM

Crazy Ted - gbaikie - 4/3/2008 7:48:33 AM
- There ARE too many people - Socrates II - 4/4/2008 12:04:21 PM
  - re: There ARE too many people - TB - 4/4/2008 3:35:51 PM
    - You can slow down the inevitable... - Socrates II - 4/5/2008 1:17:30 AM
      - To give you a sense of perspective. - SDAI-Tech1 - 4/11/2008 9:13:48 AM
      - I don't have a solution... - TB - 4/5/2008 3:00:30 AM
  - I agree... - TAFKASE - 4/4/2008 1:24:26 PM
    - I disagree... - gbaikie - 4/4/2008 11:25:18 PM
    - You had me until the last paragraph. - Mary Anne - 4/4/2008 2:41:07 PM
      - I have no problem with sex education... - TAFKASE - 4/10/2008 2:06:02 PM
    - Exactly - Socrates II - 4/4/2008 2:18:42 PM

Silence here on HZ about the Olympic shame, I mean flame. - Jacob - 4/9/2008 7:06:13 PM
- Let the Games end - Fox - 4/10/2008 5:09:13 PM
- IOC Chief speaks to the issue. - TAFKASE - 4/10/2008 3:43:49 PM
- re: Silence here on HZ about the Olympic shame, I mean flame. - REB - 4/10/2008 2:16:54 PM
  - Yes - TAFKASE - 4/10/2008 2:24:45 PM
    - Maybe a few athletes when they win their medals will refuse to wear them... - TAFKASE - 4/10/2008 2:30:06 PM
      - I see Burma has already been forgotten - Socrates II - 4/10/2008 2:53:31 PM
        
        China has a role to play with that one too. - TAFKASE - 4/10/2008 3:02:30 PM
- Communist countries and the Olympics - azstrummer - 4/9/2008 8:38:45 PM
  - Just posted - azstrummer - 4/10/2008 3:45:39 AM
    - Interesting concept - TB - 4/10/2008 6:17:08 AM
      - re: Poster children - Fox - 4/10/2008 5:19:35 PM
        
        Doesn't really answer my question. - TB - 4/10/2008 6:23:36 PM
      - re: Interesting concept - REB - 4/10/2008 2:26:02 PM
        
        because it's easy - azstrummer - 4/10/2008 3:42:03 PM
      - Hint: It has to do with the labor union constituancy - TAFKASE - 4/10/2008 1:41:28 PM
  - Great thought regarding Carter. - Bowser - 4/9/2008 11:09:48 PM
    - So Tiananmen Square, 1989, was just a 'bump' in the road for Red China? (n/t) - Jacob - 4/10/2008 1:33:46 PM
      - Show me a government that doesn't react with force to the threat of overthrow. (n/t) - Bowser - 4/10/2008 4:25:27 PM
        
        So the police in Selma were justified? - TAFKASE - 4/10/2008 4:44:24 PM
        
        Just where did that statement talk about right or wrong, good or bad? (n/t) - Bowser - 4/10/2008 5:36:23 PM
  - There is NO Tibet. - Lee - 4/9/2008 10:42:59 PM
    - There was no Austria, either, between 1938 -1945. (n/t) - Jacob - 4/10/2008 1:35:08 PM
      - Austria willing joined with Germany. - Lee - 4/10/2008 5:02:27 PM
    - There's a Tibet like there is a Texas. - Bowser - 4/9/2008 11:11:48 PM
      - Tibet had bad karma. - Lee - 4/10/2008 1:35:34 AM
        
        I do have to agree with you that Tibet would have been taken over by the Soviets had the Chinese not done so. - TAFKASE - 4/10/2008 1:45:01 PM
        
        And your sources for believing that? - Bowser - 4/10/2008 5:38:52 PM
        
        It's a little more complicated than that. - TB - 4/10/2008 7:05:12 PM
        
        Red China wasn't satisfied with just grabbing Tibet, it wants Taiwan, too. (n/t) - Jacob - 4/10/2008 1:38:32 PM
        
        Taiwan is Chinese even more than Hawaii is American. - Bowser - 4/10/2008 5:41:42 PM
        
        Missed the point. Tibet is a province of China, and has been for a long time. (n/t) - Bowser - 4/10/2008 2:18:25 AM
        
        True, that's my point too. - Lee - 4/10/2008 4:42:42 AM
        
        People said that about apartheid too. (n/t) - alcaray - 4/10/2008 6:05:15 PM
        
        More like polar opposites. - Lee - 4/10/2008 9:52:30 PM
        
        Seems like the and equivalent set of protesters to me, rather than polar opposites. - alcaray - 4/11/2008 4:11:00 AM
        
        Good grief! "the and" should be "an". (n/t) - alcaray - 4/11/2008 4:12:04 AM
  - Jacques Rogge said the same thing! (n/t) - Raoul - 4/9/2008 8:56:51 PM
- My apologies; I noticed REB's post on this topic down below. (n/t) - Jacob - 4/9/2008 7:08:29 PM

Fallon told Petraeus that he considered him to be "an ass-kissing little chickenshit" - Bowser - 4/11/2008 3:43:29 AM

Energy policy - TB - 4/11/2008 1:47:18 AM

Energy crisis - TB - 4/8/2008 12:09:01 AM
- If I had the dough - Eri - 4/8/2008 1:46:53 AM
  - If I had the dough... - R. Naderman - 4/9/2008 2:12:01 AM
    - There is a government grant for doing just that. - REB - 4/9/2008 12:35:08 PM
      - Website for government incentives: - podrock - 4/10/2008 2:14:13 PM
        
        Thanks - REB - 4/10/2008 2:21:50 PM
        
        'natch - podrock - 4/11/2008 1:06:50 AM
  - Might want to wait just a bit - azstrummer - 4/8/2008 2:19:53 PM
    - re: Might want to wait just a bit - REB - 4/8/2008 2:28:50 PM
      - I like Norway Maples... - TAFKASE - 4/8/2008 4:02:57 PM
        
        re: I like Norway Maples... - REB - 4/9/2008 1:39:22 PM
        
        I have one silver and 2 reds also... - TAFKASE - 4/9/2008 3:03:58 PM
  - re: If I had the dough - ditto - REB - 4/8/2008 12:43:46 PM
    - re: If I had the dough - ditto - azstrummer - 4/8/2008 2:08:32 PM

New thinking on the climate crisis - et - 4/8/2008 9:11:34 PM
- Al Gore's credibility on this issue is pretty much zero. - TB - 4/9/2008 12:27:11 AM
  - Thank you unbiased arbiter of all Democrat's credibility. - et - 4/9/2008 10:47:04 PM
    - Get serious - TB - 4/10/2008 6:51:17 AM
      - Oh, I am. - et - 4/10/2008 8:01:58 PM
        
        Yeah. - TB - 4/10/2008 9:07:54 PM
  - That is truly funny. A shame there isn't a Nobel for Nonsense. (n/t) - Bowser - 4/9/2008 5:18:40 AM
    - re: It is pretty funny - TB - 4/9/2008 4:28:25 PM
- BTW - Lee - 4/9/2008 12:02:32 AM
- You mean like global temperatures being steady for the past ten years? - Lee - 4/8/2008 11:54:10 PM
  - You're just mad because... - et - 4/9/2008 12:24:32 AM
    - My Flash player's just fine. - Lee - 4/9/2008 3:16:15 AM
      - Mine isn't...I have to go into FireFox to use it. (n/t) - Jody - 4/9/2008 1:18:54 PM

A while back (but still a current event) - Jody - 4/8/2008 11:33:17 AM
- re: A while back (but still a current event) - azstrummer - 4/8/2008 2:06:27 PM
  - Brilliant. - TB - 4/8/2008 3:13:01 PM
    - re: Brilliant. - azstrummer - 4/9/2008 2:07:28 PM
      - It's not the war spending that's the problem. - TB - 4/9/2008 5:24:53 PM
        
        re: It's not the war spending that's the problem. - azstrummer - 4/9/2008 8:28:58 PM
        
        re: It's not the war spending that's the problem. - TB - 4/9/2008 10:32:36 PM
        
        Do you even read what you write? - azstrummer - 4/10/2008 3:49:45 AM
        
        Just keep looking at the numbers and let it sink in. - TB - 4/10/2008 4:13:21 AM
        
        No - azstrummer - 4/10/2008 3:57:31 PM
        
        re: No - TB - 4/10/2008 5:48:38 PM
        
        More information on that survey - TB - 4/10/2008 6:14:57 PM

Meanwhile, in Iran - TB - 4/8/2008 3:56:42 PM
- Here's what I understand. - Jacob - 4/8/2008 6:54:43 PM
  - re: Here's what I understand. - TB - 4/9/2008 12:44:08 AM
    - I agree. - Jacob - 4/9/2008 7:27:11 PM
      - I worry about a nuke coming to the US on a ship. - REB - 4/10/2008 3:04:27 PM
    - if only they were going for the fireworks - Adam Bomber - 4/9/2008 3:12:09 PM

The definition of a hero - TAFKASE - 4/9/2008 2:47:17 PM
- Types of courage. - Bowser - 4/9/2008 5:17:32 PM
  - Absolutely true. - TAFAKSE - 4/10/2008 1:50:13 PM
  - Medics - TB - 4/9/2008 5:41:38 PM
    - More on Doss - TB - 4/9/2008 5:44:48 PM
      - There was a movie about one such winner of the CMH but I don't recall the name - TAFKASE - 4/10/2008 1:54:52 PM
        
        Sgt. York - TAFKASE - 4/10/2008 2:52:08 PM
- Opps got distracted... SHB CMH (n/t) - TAFKASE - 4/9/2008 2:48:17 PM

"- - - lower- and middle-class families did not share in the prosperity of recent years- - - " - Bowser - 4/9/2008 6:58:48 PM
- How will the Middle Class do with Obama's or Hillary's raising of taxes. - REB - 4/10/2008 2:09:21 PM
- The final nail in the coffin of "trickle-down economics" - Robert - 4/9/2008 9:23:17 PM
  - So tell me, what are the unemployment rates in Europe? - TB - 4/9/2008 9:43:32 PM
- "Middle class grow fearful about their prospects" - Bowser - 4/9/2008 7:24:52 PM

"Q: Can newly trained Iraqi forces handle those security problems?" - Bowser - 4/8/2008 2:25:47 AM
- re: newly trained? Not always well. The veterans? A lot better. - TB - 4/8/2008 2:47:17 AM
  - Tom, Tom, Tom. The US has been "training" those people for 4 years. - Bowser - 4/8/2008 3:44:20 AM
    - You have to understand you have no idea what you're talking about. - TB - 4/8/2008 4:27:08 AM
      - You think we have to wait for an Iraqi Eisenhower now? - alcaray - 4/8/2008 4:55:17 AM
        
        re: You think we have to wait for an Iraqi Eisenhower now? - TB - 4/8/2008 5:52:51 AM
        
        I have to say I'm with Bowser on this one. - alcaray - 4/8/2008 9:11:03 AM
        
        re: "Your story has changed." - Yeti - 4/8/2008 8:42:04 PM
        
        I just enjoy observing the shields go up. - alcaray - 4/9/2008 12:36:00 AM
        
        I think the original point... - TB - 4/9/2008 12:48:25 AM
        
        For you, this is a "that was then, this is now" kind of thing, right? - alcaray - 4/9/2008 1:04:07 AM
        
        "Then" is pretty much all your side has got right now. - TB - 4/9/2008 2:59:55 AM
        
        In 6 months you'll be on to the next 'we're winning' story, different fom this one, and you will be saying the same thing about 'our side' (n/t) - Yeti - 4/9/2008 8:01:35 PM
        
        Did you even bother to look at the data? - TB - 4/9/2008 9:49:31 PM
        
        I'll tell you one thing thats changed. - Yeti - 4/9/2008 10:44:55 PM
        
        And how's the accuracy on your side? - TB - 4/9/2008 11:07:44 PM
        
        Better than your endless and pointless rhetorical cycles - Yeti - 4/10/2008 1:44:50 AM
        
        Washington Post editorial - TB - 4/9/2008 11:12:03 PM
        
        re: "Then" is pretty much all your side has got right now. - gbaikie - 4/9/2008 4:26:42 AM
        
        I could not find your quote with a google search. What is it from? (n/t) - alcaray - 4/9/2008 7:45:49 AM
        
        re: I could not find your quote with a google search. What is it from? - gbaikie - 4/9/2008 8:23:17 AM
        
        Why not just take responsibility for that for which you are responsible for? - alcaray - 4/9/2008 4:08:41 AM
        
        responsawha? They're republicans, responsibility is for - Yeti - 4/9/2008 4:22:18 AM
      - That is just plain nonsense. The same nonsense, over and over for years. - Bowser - 4/8/2008 4:41:32 AM
        
        re: plain nonsense. - TB - 4/8/2008 5:41:16 AM

"New Iraq troop buildup unlikely, Petraeus says." And the reason. - Bowser - 4/9/2008 8:26:23 PM
- Tour lengths - azstrummer - 4/9/2008 8:32:14 PM
  - Another point of view - TB - 4/9/2008 9:12:51 PM
    - "- - - slightly more than 70 percent of new recruits joining the active-duty Army last year had a high school diploma,- - - " - Bowser - 4/9/2008 11:06:00 PM
    - "Almost 12% of U.S. Army recruits required waivers for criminal records" - Bowser - 4/9/2008 11:01:02 PM

MD-80 Problems and American Airlines - carl - 4/9/2008 5:42:53 PM

Olympic Protesters - REB - 4/7/2008 5:33:28 PM
- Let the Games end - Fox - 4/9/2008 5:27:55 PM
- Climbed GOLDEN GATE Bridge - carl - 4/7/2008 6:49:40 PM
  - Where were these protestors when... - REB - 4/9/2008 1:24:35 PM
    - The same reason animal rights activists... - Socrates II - 4/9/2008 1:35:33 PM
  - Nice sentiment. - TB - 4/7/2008 7:27:31 PM
    - Just heard in the news... - REB - 4/7/2008 9:00:03 PM
      - We can't quit importing Chinese stuff. - Eri - 4/7/2008 9:14:10 PM
        
        Let's not have another Afghanistan fiasco - Socrates II - 4/8/2008 1:53:42 PM

"Fed sees economy getting worse" and ER's thought. - Bowser - 4/9/2008 12:10:20 AM
- OK Ho'w CHINA's ECONOMY DOING?. - carl - 4/9/2008 2:51:09 PM

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