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Terrorist confession? - Tom Brosz - 8/31/2003 10:34:01 PM

Photos from the front lines - Tom Brosz - 8/31/2003 8:04:21 AM
- another try - Jason - 8/31/2003 3:50:04 PM
  - Arms being supplied by Saudi Arabia without a doubt. - Jason - 8/31/2003 4:23:56 PM
- I like this one... - Jason - 8/31/2003 3:46:23 PM

Voting with your feet - Tom Brosz - 8/31/2003 8:23:53 AM
- Wait for the homogenizing effect - Mary Anne - 8/31/2003 12:16:11 PM

Our Navy makes things look so easy - ebnelson - 8/31/2003 5:23:05 AM

Most brilliant idea I've heard all month... - Tom Brosz - 8/30/2003 3:36:07 AM
- I swear... - FrankC - 8/30/2003 9:12:50 PM

Just a little reminder... - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/29/2003 5:49:05 AM
- Link - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/29/2003 5:50:33 AM
  - "Bodies are just coming from out of the sky." - skeptical - 8/29/2003 10:50:51 AM
    - What more can be said? - Lindy - 8/29/2003 4:32:48 PM
      - re: What more can be said? - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/30/2003 7:27:34 PM
      - uh, maybe something rational? just a suggestion (n/t) - p - 8/29/2003 11:04:51 PM
      - re: What more can be said? - Tom Brosz - 8/29/2003 5:15:23 PM
        
        re: What more can be said? - Lindy - 8/30/2003 5:07:28 AM
        
        Who knows? - FrankC - 8/29/2003 7:50:50 PM
        
        Feelin' Groovy - Lindy - 8/30/2003 5:14:42 AM

Two U.S. Soldiers Killed in Iraq Attacks - Don - 8/27/2003 12:39:17 PM
- A More Objective Measure Would Be % of Pre-war predictions or past groundwar/occupations - Mark Eby - 8/28/2003 1:13:48 PM
- Fourteen enemy soldiers killed in attack on U.S. troops - Tom Brosz - 8/27/2003 6:50:24 PM
  - Its not about keeping score, Tom - Don - 8/28/2003 4:17:13 AM
    - You are doing precisely that - skeptical - 8/28/2003 5:05:18 AM
- Bremer: Iraq 'needs tens of billions' - Don - 8/27/2003 12:42:02 PM
  - Bush Iraq Policy Illustrated - Don - 8/27/2003 1:35:52 PM
    - Replace The Ship With The Crumbles Remains Of The Two Tires & - Mark Eby - 8/30/2003 7:17:00 PM

It's quiet around here. Too quiet. - Tom Brosz - 8/28/2003 6:16:26 PM
- In a nutshell - Tony - 8/29/2003 4:25:58 PM
  - re: In a nutshell - Tom Brosz - 8/29/2003 5:29:45 PM
- The stories speak for themselves - Robert - 8/28/2003 8:54:51 PM
  - Indeed they do - Don - 8/29/2003 2:12:53 AM
    - "Decades?" How young are you, anyway? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/29/2003 4:06:28 AM
    - re: Indeed they do - Todd - 8/29/2003 3:02:10 AM
      - Well Todd... - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/29/2003 6:29:15 AM
        
        BS Alert! - Lindy - 8/29/2003 7:25:03 AM
        
        The "Nobody Died" lie - Tom Brosz - 8/29/2003 5:48:02 PM
        
        re: LOL! - Raoul - 8/30/2003 6:21:01 PM
        
        Yeap - Mark Eby - 8/30/2003 7:08:53 PM
        
        White House "Morality" - Lindy - 8/30/2003 5:28:35 AM
        
        Lindy did not lie - alcaray - 8/29/2003 6:47:01 PM
        
        re: Lindy did not lie - Tom Brosz - 8/30/2003 5:06:12 AM
        
        His Lack Of Leadership Cost 3000 Mostly American Lives Lindy - Mark Eby - 8/29/2003 2:09:04 PM
        
        re: His Lack Of Leadership Cost 3000 Mostly American Lives Lindy - Lindy - 8/29/2003 3:07:08 PM

GAO's Final Energy Task Force Report Reveals that the Vice President Made A False Statement to Congress - Greg - 8/30/2003 2:06:39 AM
- What the GAO hopes everyone ignores: - ebnelson - 8/30/2003 12:58:13 PM
- Huzzah! Surely THIS will be the magic bullet that brings down the Bush administration! (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/30/2003 4:28:28 AM
  - when did you change yer name to Anne? (n/t) - Tony - 8/30/2003 12:25:47 PM

Tallying the Dead in Iraq - Don - 8/27/2003 4:10:30 AM
- Wow! Goes to show how masterful the invasion was vis-a-vis the Cassandra critics projections, Thanks! (n/t) - p - 8/27/2003 10:12:38 PM
  - "[Up to] 260,000 Deaths in First Three Months of Invasion" - skeptical - 8/28/2003 2:09:23 AM
- re: Tallying the Dead in Iraq - Tom Brosz - 8/27/2003 5:14:25 AM
  - More people have died in Washington DC in the same timeframe... - Larry J - 8/27/2003 2:11:53 PM
    - re: More people have died in Washington DC in the same timeframe... - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/29/2003 12:36:21 AM
    - Yeh. And we should have left baby Jessica in the well. All that trouble for one measly life! (n/t) - alcaray - 8/27/2003 10:30:30 PM
    - Larry wins the Moral Relativism award for this week. - Davin L. - 8/27/2003 3:46:49 PM
      - And you continue to ignore the point... - Larry J - 8/27/2003 9:15:52 PM
        
        No, You just don't have one. - Davin L. - 8/27/2003 9:47:47 PM
        
        re: No, You just don't have one. - gbaikie - 8/27/2003 10:31:45 PM
        
        You still have no clue - Larry J - 8/27/2003 10:19:27 PM
        
        Don't worry, Larry, I'll get back to this - Davin L. - 8/28/2003 10:37:33 PM
        
        A Common Problem Here & Everywhere - Mark Eby - 8/28/2003 1:46:24 PM
        
        "We tried looking the other way" - skeptical - 8/28/2003 2:46:11 AM
        
        Another useful fool who thinks Saddam planned 9/11! (n/t) - alcaray - 8/28/2003 4:04:22 PM
        
        Using insults to substitute for argument here? - skeptical - 8/28/2003 7:12:18 PM
        
        It is possible that I misunderstood your post - alcaray - 8/28/2003 8:22:05 PM
      - re: Moral Relativism award - Tom Brosz - 8/27/2003 6:18:15 PM
        
        Getting Real with Relativism. - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/30/2003 3:35:51 AM
        
        re: Getting Real, period - Tom Brosz - 8/30/2003 7:40:29 AM
        
        re: Getting Real Funny - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/30/2003 9:00:55 AM
        
        re: Getting More Real Funny - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/30/2003 11:20:30 AM
      - Don't be hasty, Davin - Fox - 8/27/2003 4:14:23 PM
        
        Fox, your restraint and judgement serve you well - Davin L. - 8/27/2003 4:34:39 PM
    - Imagine... - Don - 8/27/2003 3:20:17 PM
      - We don't have to imagine at all - Larry J - 8/27/2003 8:45:11 PM
      - Works for me! - Tom Brosz - 8/27/2003 6:30:00 PM
      - But Don: - Davin L. - 8/27/2003 3:51:27 PM
    - re: More people have died in Washington DC - Fox - 8/27/2003 3:11:41 PM
- If only the U.N. were running things... - Tom Brosz - 8/27/2003 4:53:15 AM
  - re: If only the U.N. were running things... - Raoul - 8/27/2003 9:34:05 AM
    - Or to reword - FrankC - 8/27/2003 1:26:57 PM
    - re: If only the U.N. were running things... - gbaikie - 8/27/2003 10:50:28 AM
      - And... - Don - 8/27/2003 1:14:26 PM
        
        Contributions - Tom Brosz - 8/27/2003 6:39:16 PM

Events in Iraq and also in London - Raoul - 8/29/2003 5:45:09 PM
- re: Events in Iraq and also in London - Tom Brosz - 8/30/2003 3:40:34 AM

Why it might be harder than you think to find WMD in Iraq - Tom Brosz - 7/25/2003 4:49:45 AM
- Because they don't exist - Don - 7/25/2003 1:38:22 PM
  - re: Why are nuke weapons program papers being found buried in scientist's backyard with instructions to 'reincorporate them' once UN sanctions were finally lifted . . . ? - D. Spires - 7/25/2003 6:03:22 PM
    - re: papers or plant - Raoul - 7/25/2003 6:17:18 PM
      - re: 'A nuclear plant requires . . .' - D. Spires - 7/25/2003 6:50:19 PM
  - You are refering to the Clinton White House aren't you? - Scott Evil - 7/25/2003 2:47:22 PM
    - Clinton on nuclear weapons in Iraq - Tom Brosz - 7/25/2003 6:09:31 PM
    - re: You are refering to the Clinton White House aren't you? - Marcia - 7/25/2003 3:34:38 PM
      - NEWSFLASH! - Tony - 7/25/2003 3:54:45 PM
        
        re: NEWSFLASH! - Tom Brosz - 7/25/2003 6:11:11 PM
        
        Lame ducking? - Tony - 7/25/2003 9:05:17 PM
        
        P.S. - Tom Brosz - 7/26/2003 1:17:10 AM
        
        re: Lame ducking? - Tom Brosz - 7/26/2003 1:07:51 AM
        
        Tom Brosz Patented 'Proof by endless and ad nauseum iteration' (aka Linguistic self-stimulation) - Davin L - 7/26/2003 8:44:57 PM
        
        re: Tom Brosz Patented 'Proof by endless and ad nauseum iteration' (aka Linguistic self-stimulation) - Kate - 8/29/2003 2:07:53 AM
        
        No!!!! I Had No IDEA!!! :-) - Davin L - 8/30/2003 1:25:23 AM
        
        re: Tom Brosz Patented 'Proof by endless and ad nauseum iteration' (aka Linguistic self-stimulation) (n/t) - Katie Brosz - 8/29/2003 2:04:56 AM
        
        Let's see if I got this right... - Tom Brosz - 7/27/2003 2:33:53 AM
        
        Right more than you usually are ;-) - Davin L. - 7/27/2003 4:16:46 AM
        
        Put up? What do you think I've BEEN doing? - Tom Brosz - 7/27/2003 6:06:59 AM
        
        Oh, thats your 'evidence'? Riiiight. Anomalism is what it is. - Davin L. - 7/27/2003 8:26:27 PM
        
        re: 'It is nice to see ol' Bill being quoted in a positive light for once . . .' - D. Spires - 7/25/2003 6:07:51 PM

Arms Caches Found . . . - D. Spires - 8/29/2003 7:24:36 PM

Telling it Like it Is........ - Lindy - 8/29/2003 6:12:40 AM
- re: Telling it Like it -- Isn't . . . ? - One Slighted Nimrod - 8/29/2003 6:10:29 PM
- You're right about one thing - Lindy - 8/29/2003 7:09:26 AM
- It's easy to have abold pen if one need not tell the truth. - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/29/2003 6:54:33 AM

Hillary mulls bid? - Greg - 8/29/2003 12:47:29 PM
- re: Hillary mulls bid? - Tom Brosz - 8/29/2003 5:12:11 PM

40 years ago today... - Larry J - 8/28/2003 7:17:42 PM
- Thank You Larry and btw - Tony - 8/28/2003 7:48:29 PM
  - re: Thank You Larry and btw - gbaikie - 8/28/2003 11:36:48 PM
  - re: Lines - Raoul - 8/28/2003 8:31:18 PM
  - Maybe speakers are trying too hard - Larry J - 8/28/2003 8:16:50 PM
    - Common culture - Mary Anne - 8/29/2003 4:15:10 PM

Bsuh Deficit To Reach Half A Trillion Dollars Next Year - Don - 8/26/2003 3:25:42 AM
- This is no joke - Buck Galaxy - 8/26/2003 4:12:40 AM
  - Indeed - Don - 8/26/2003 4:24:57 AM
    - re: Indeed - Tom Brosz - 8/26/2003 6:18:01 AM
      - Yes Indeed - Mark Eby - 8/26/2003 12:53:04 PM
        
        Blaming Greenspan for the prosperity - alcaray - 8/26/2003 5:36:24 PM
        
        What Monetary Plolicy Is Supposed To Do & What It Can't - Mark Eby - 8/26/2003 5:45:00 PM
        
        Other people's money - Gary - 8/26/2003 3:50:34 PM
        
        re: Other people's money - Mark Eby - 8/26/2003 5:37:15 PM
        
        "While Don continues to ignore the thousands of lives Clinton's inaction on the terrorism issue caused . . . " - Mary Anne - 8/26/2003 2:09:49 PM
        
        Tying up the government... - Tom Brosz - 8/26/2003 7:35:36 PM
        
        Do Some Analysis Tom - Mark Eby - 8/29/2003 2:22:14 PM
        
        Yup - Don - 8/26/2003 2:33:50 PM
        
        BS Don - Mark Eby - 8/26/2003 2:41:55 PM
        
        That's Really Weak Mary Anne - Mark Eby - 8/26/2003 2:29:58 PM
        
        Excuse me - Don - 8/26/2003 1:18:16 PM
        
        It's Hard Sometimes But I'll Try - Mark Eby - 8/26/2003 2:27:14 PM
        
        re: "Sure lets blame it on the new President..." - alcaray - 8/26/2003 5:44:04 PM
        
        "Clinton did not have a 9/11 to respond to." - Tom Brosz - 8/26/2003 7:48:02 PM
        
        So the answer to my question was...? (n/t) - alcaray - 8/26/2003 8:30:48 PM
        
        re: So the answer to my question was...? - Tom Brosz - 8/26/2003 9:08:54 PM
        
        re: So the answer to my question was...? - gbaikie - 8/27/2003 12:50:00 PM
        
        "That's all I'm sayin'." (n/t) - alcaray - 8/26/2003 9:33:42 PM
        
        There Is No Guarantee Bush Would Have Responded Appropriately - Mark Eby - 8/29/2003 2:27:58 PM
        
        8 Mos Alacaray - Mark Eby - 8/26/2003 5:49:51 PM
      - Indeed - Don - 8/26/2003 12:41:17 PM
        
        re: Indeed - Tom Brosz - 8/26/2003 8:01:53 PM

Bali bomber thanks anti-war protesters - skeptical - 8/28/2003 3:07:26 AM
- Another commentary on this subject - Tom Brosz - 8/29/2003 12:33:31 AM
- LOL - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/28/2003 6:15:00 AM
  - Nicely stated Joe - Don - 8/28/2003 1:53:57 PM
    - This from people who for the past half year have found Saddam more credible than Bush. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/28/2003 5:04:12 PM
      - Equating a lack of support for Bush to supporting Saddam? Uh, false dichotomy anyone? (n/t) - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/28/2003 5:11:49 PM
        
        I didn't say "support." Sit up and pay attention. - Tom Brosz - 8/28/2003 5:30:00 PM
        
        re: I didn't say "support." Sit up and pay attention to the LOWEST PRICES AROUND!! - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/28/2003 6:04:03 PM
    - Pluueezz - FrankC - 8/28/2003 2:47:44 PM
      - Exactly my point - Don - 8/28/2003 3:10:18 PM
        
        A double standard - skeptical - 8/28/2003 4:34:59 PM
        
        Tell it skep - FrankC - 8/28/2003 5:47:44 PM
        
        I hope it's a big fridge :-) (n/t) - skeptical - 8/29/2003 1:24:02 PM
        
        re: A double standard sized icecream cone! Woohoo! - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/28/2003 5:26:09 PM
        
        Don? Now THAT is"cheap, cheesey commentary" (sic) (n/t) - skeptical - 8/29/2003 10:37:09 AM
        
        Looney Logic - Lindy - 8/28/2003 4:53:03 PM
        
        Can you tell the difference between George Bush and Saddam Hussein? - skeptical - 8/28/2003 5:46:28 PM
        
        You'll find that happens a lot around here. - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/29/2003 7:12:40 AM
- Pathetic - Don - 8/28/2003 3:42:05 AM
  - Well said Don........ - Lindy - 8/28/2003 4:21:24 PM
  - Pitiful - ebnelson - 8/28/2003 12:42:16 PM
    - Pitiful - Don - 8/28/2003 2:07:29 PM
      - re: Pitiful+ - ebnelson - 8/29/2003 12:51:51 PM
  - You know Don. - Todd - 8/28/2003 4:57:27 AM
  - "Censorship" - skeptical - 8/28/2003 4:42:19 AM
    - "Censorship" - Don - 8/28/2003 1:46:57 PM
  - And this is the debate you would stifle - Don - 8/28/2003 3:49:42 AM
    - I would never stifle "debate" - skeptical - 8/28/2003 4:38:40 AM
      - You're not even "Skeptical" - Lindy - 8/28/2003 4:47:57 PM

Should we create another Holocast museum? - p - 8/28/2003 3:42:48 PM
- Yes, and it will need to be very large - ebnelson - 8/29/2003 12:55:48 PM
- re: Should we create another Holocast museum? - Joe_Nietzsche - 8/28/2003 8:25:09 PM
- We who? - alcaray - 8/28/2003 5:40:51 PM
- Good luck... - Tom Brosz - 8/28/2003 4:20:47 PM

For sale: IRAQ - CASH ONLY - Greg - 8/29/2003 12:38:32 PM

Whoa! The Ten Commandments Get Fisked! - p 666 - 8/29/2003 1:48:10 AM
- Hmmm... - RobVG - 8/29/2003 3:44:17 AM

U.S. Struggles to Get More Help in Iraq - Don - 8/29/2003 2:06:24 AM

Sterling example of a leftist Castro butt-kisser - Tom Brosz - 8/29/2003 12:26:05 AM

Justice Served - Don - 8/27/2003 3:14:55 PM
- re: Justice Served - gbaikie - 8/28/2003 12:22:04 AM
  - re: Justice Served - Don - 8/28/2003 1:15:59 AM
    - re: Justice Served - gbaikie - 8/28/2003 8:06:03 AM
      - re: Justice Served - Don - 8/28/2003 1:05:56 PM
        
        re: Justice Served - gbaikie - 8/28/2003 9:47:34 PM
        
        More clues - gbaikie - 8/28/2003 11:03:11 PM

New Report Cites Traces of Uranium at Iran Plant . . . - D. Spires - 8/28/2003 1:15:39 AM
- Iran's Manhattan Project coming along nicely - sleptical - 8/28/2003 1:31:27 PM
  - re: Iran's Manhattan Project coming along nicely - gbaikie - 8/28/2003 10:08:37 PM
  - re: It's never "fair" . . . - D. Spires - 8/28/2003 7:15:16 PM
  - re: Iran's Manhattan Project coming along nicely - Tom Brosz - 8/28/2003 5:39:23 PM
    - Subject on previous message was supposed to read "So is North Koreas." (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/28/2003 5:43:14 PM
      - And my handle was supposed to read skeptical, not sleptical. - skeptical - 8/28/2003 6:39:39 PM

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